Love my P3ESR XDs they are a speaker I will keep till the end of my time. They are in my second system and I’m often stopped in awe of the beauty they exhibit. There is something so human about them.
@johntierney2561Ай бұрын
Went out and bought the Ondara album after listening to this review - great album !1
@GodschildjesusАй бұрын
The EVO 4.2 's trounce the s400's easily, no contest here.
@johntierney25612 ай бұрын
I think the original HL P3Es speakers have better projection - they sound slightly brighter than the P4ERS - and for me give a better vocal rendition than the than the P4ERS- I prefer the HL P3ES- thanks for sharing the, video loved the Ondara tune
@buttonman18312 ай бұрын
The S400's literally sound like shit in comparison
@knattertoni11112 ай бұрын
9:00 - makes my frontal teeth hurt slightly - metal-tweeter?
@eddihaskell3 ай бұрын
I have a pair of these originial Harbeth HLP3's in much better condition -- I am debating keeping them or selling them.
@davidrobert18555 ай бұрын
Bucardt a lot warmer and better speaker harbeth sounded cheap and hollow
@beachcaster565 ай бұрын
I have just finished a long session with my superb Celestion SL6 speakers owned from new......I don't know whether I could stand either of these speakers for a long listen. That might be just the recording but they both sounded very aggressive to me
@marekwajkert12545 ай бұрын
Both good.better SHL5
@armanddimeo65756 ай бұрын
The S400s are not at all bad and may be more versatile. But I would rather have the P3s and mate them with a good subwoofer to match or exceed the bass of the S400s. The S400s reproduction of vocals does not even come close to the Harbeths. Therre is a fullness and richness to the vocals on the Harbeths . There is an organicity to the sound in general that sounded to me more like real music. In comparison, vocals on the S400s sounded a bit cold and sterile. The only track that I thought sounded slightly better on the S400s was the last rock track, since the Harbeths were lacking in bass and dynamics. When I heard the track on the Harbeths, it sounded very congested but it was not much better on the S400s. Most of the congestion was coming from the recording, which is very compressed. We should keep in mind that the Harbeths will cost you almost a thousand dollars more in the U.S. but they are made in the U.K. while the S400s are made in China.I am not knocking the S400s and they may be a good choice for some listeners. But I am always skeptical of products that seem to be the latest darlings of the audio press. Good alternatives would be the NHT C3 and a few models from Ascend Acoustics (made in the U.S.). With a subwoofer, these speakers would be roughly equivalent to the Buchardts in price and performance.
@ailtonpacheco11276 ай бұрын
The P3ESR sound better in my opinion.
@veraluxmundi20326 ай бұрын
The Harbeths do sound a bit shrill in the midband to me. The voices are overaccentuated, too etched, but there's no bass. The 15 ohm LS3/5A does the same disappearing trick but the bass hump gives an impression of lower end authority.
@aleksandarstojceski31399 ай бұрын
All that tech and still beaten by tiny 4.5 inch driver.
@arnolfini143410 ай бұрын
Harbeth p3ers speakers have a better response with the grilles on!
@asheshchand361610 ай бұрын
Thanks for the demo. Do you think yamaha 1200 amp pair well with Buchardts mkii?!
@ThePalle44 Жыл бұрын
Ear Fatigue with Evo, can't listen for hours and hours on this setup. He's voice in last songs sounds more natural with buchardt
@scottdavis0801 Жыл бұрын
On Mr. Gambus, Harbeth I can hear the texture of the percussion/strings. The Buchardt not so much! Im not even sure that the buchardt are even in the game.😂
@darpanbhuyan1909 Жыл бұрын
I'm hearing these through my Spendor Classic 2/3's and the Buchardt sounds sweeter - more prominent in the high end and the tracking of notes and passages across the frequency spread is much superior to the Evo 4.2. But, if you listen to a lot of piano music, my Evo 4.2's sound better than my Spendor's at 1/5th the price. Its not a jack of all trades but a master of one for sure.
@NOTSoGoodHikers Жыл бұрын
Thw Wharfdales presented a fuller and richer sound and is my preference. Both are great speakers but the Wharfedales offer a much better value for your money.
@darpanbhuyan1909 Жыл бұрын
Bro, what are you listening it through?
@ENGBriseB Жыл бұрын
Wharfedale EVO speakers the Range is excellent.
@slimjim_1090 Жыл бұрын
I much prefer the sound of the buchardt speakers .I think they are a smoother sounding speaker . The Wharfedale's I'd find fatiguing after an hour or so..
@michbest Жыл бұрын
Wharfedale better in many ways aspetially highs.
@gavinralph2910 Жыл бұрын
Buchardts sounded small compared to the EVO 4.2 on the Supercharged track....
@CORVUSMAXYMUS Жыл бұрын
COMPACT 7 ES2 first place , for wider soundstage vs P3ESR which is a little bit narrow.
@jamestartaglia7686 Жыл бұрын
I have the special edition in fauna and I the silver wire....with svs subs they are awesome 😊
@Larwiz Жыл бұрын
The Buchardts sound brighter, more detailed, airier, and with better bass. These would be my pick.
@marcodratwa3287 Жыл бұрын
Harbeth P3esr are better.
@Borednlonely Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Only a comparison video against a different type of speaker can highlight what the p3esr type speaker can do and what it cannot.
@carljung9230 Жыл бұрын
don't bother watching; just another stupid video of youtube quality sound.
@robertsuba1809 Жыл бұрын
Clear harbeth wins for me, more open, more detalies, and response is fenomenal. really sad for me, I can't afford them :(
@p.r.8049 Жыл бұрын
A fair and useful comparison would be Buchardt S400 vs Harbeth C7ES-3 XD (or the M30.2 XD at the very least). The P3ESR is a completely different kind of speaker. It's like comparing oranges to apples and if one doesn't have possibility of listening to both, it does not give a real metric of how good is one or the other in their own realm....
@sleme1972 Жыл бұрын
The review was based on price point and size. In fact the current version of the P3esr costs more than the S400. The C7 is a much bigger box. Both C7 and M30.2 cost much more than the S400.
@p.r.8049 Жыл бұрын
@@sleme1972 But the S400 is significantly bigger than the P3ESR too! The volume of the P3ESR is 10 litres, the Buchardt is 18 litres. That's almost 2x the size. Moreover, the two bass alignments are different with the little speaker having the sealed box. I suggested the C7 because you have them too. But I agree, the C7 is too good and way above the S400. However, price is never a good primary criterion unless there is big difference like 10K vs 1K. But few hundreds or even 2x is not GENERALLY a good parameter in my experience.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Жыл бұрын
Upper mids on the p3esr are very very good a little forward but Yamaha amp also while the vocals sound more realistic than 7s the 7s i can hear deeper into the music and more sparkle up top -
@stipeilic2611 Жыл бұрын
Hl-p3 for me please
@jonasDoguedeBordeaux Жыл бұрын
Great album 👌
@wingpangyee5195 Жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for the nice video. Glad to discover a fellow Malaysian hifi kaki. I disagree about the comments that the P3ESR cannot rock. I own a P3ESR driven by Naim Nait XS in a small 10 X 15 feet room and it definitely rocks! Naim/Harbeth is a match made in heaven. I do use a JBL subwoofer though. The P3ESR definitely sounds clearer to me than S400 in your comparison
@Stephenwongdirectimaging Жыл бұрын
I just bought a used s400 mark ii rosewood at good value . Updating Feb 2023 i when to compare with M30.2 XD i prefer s400 Mark ii . Matching a Right amp very important for s400ii i have Tryed few brand i Find naim and pass LAb pre and power very suitable
@ronny3391 Жыл бұрын
Harbeth has no chance against Buchardt. Comparing individual disciplines makes no sense. What matters is the musicality, authenticity, emotion, rhythm and credibility of a stage. The Harbeth has no chance
@joefoldvari3747 Жыл бұрын
This is very funny! 🤣😂🤣
@subrakolimali9952 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel! another Malaysian!
@rmuliana782 жыл бұрын
Its a hard call, HLP3 sounds good as well on the vocal, more relaxing than P3esr.... love both.
@rmuliana782 жыл бұрын
Based on your experience.... u think 50watt per channel, good enough to drive the P3ser? (my listening room only 3x3.5m) thanks.
@sleme1972 Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. I have used the P3esr with 30w per channel and it is still great. Doesnt need a lot of power for it to sing. The S400 on the other hand, I find that it needs more to make it sing.
@rmuliana782 жыл бұрын
i am with u, for my taste of musics, P3esr is my pick. best for mid 👍
@rmuliana782 жыл бұрын
well presented.... thank you.
@fredsanke87102 жыл бұрын
Clearer, brighter and clearer sound.. .. Harbeth.
@xeniavader2 жыл бұрын
wow, this is a great video I can't believe it, but I prefer the p3. little more focused.
@juststuff52162 жыл бұрын
Harbeth P3esr - Hands down!
@HyliAir2 жыл бұрын
For me the Harbeth sounds more alive whereas the Burchardt sounds slightly flat.
@davesheather43062 жыл бұрын
Prefer the clarity of the midrange of the P3...with my Sonneteer Alabaster amp....listen to stuff like Sparklehorse , Grandaddy & Willy Tea Taylor etc so guess I'm in the mellow/rock category.
@twenty4seven3682 жыл бұрын
I prefer the harbeths because of the magical mids. S400 obviously more dynamic and recessed in the mids. Depends on what you’re looking for.
@johenkay11292 жыл бұрын
P3esr sounds more real tonally. I would keep the p3esr over the hlp3. The hlp3 had more emphasis on the higher midrange frequencies which just made it sound slightly off to me.
@1061shrink1061 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with this, there’s significantly more sense of “full Range” from the ESR. Now whether that deviates from the 3/5A intention I can’t comment on, but the ESR produces the notes of the double bass, the p3 doesn’t.
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Love my P3ESR XDs they are a speaker I will keep till the end of my time. They are in my second system and I’m often stopped in awe of the beauty they exhibit. There is something so human about them.
Went out and bought the Ondara album after listening to this review - great album !1
The EVO 4.2 's trounce the s400's easily, no contest here.
I think the original HL P3Es speakers have better projection - they sound slightly brighter than the P4ERS - and for me give a better vocal rendition than the than the P4ERS- I prefer the HL P3ES- thanks for sharing the, video loved the Ondara tune
The S400's literally sound like shit in comparison
9:00 - makes my frontal teeth hurt slightly - metal-tweeter?
I have a pair of these originial Harbeth HLP3's in much better condition -- I am debating keeping them or selling them.
Bucardt a lot warmer and better speaker harbeth sounded cheap and hollow
I have just finished a long session with my superb Celestion SL6 speakers owned from new......I don't know whether I could stand either of these speakers for a long listen. That might be just the recording but they both sounded very aggressive to me
Both good.better SHL5
The S400s are not at all bad and may be more versatile. But I would rather have the P3s and mate them with a good subwoofer to match or exceed the bass of the S400s. The S400s reproduction of vocals does not even come close to the Harbeths. Therre is a fullness and richness to the vocals on the Harbeths . There is an organicity to the sound in general that sounded to me more like real music. In comparison, vocals on the S400s sounded a bit cold and sterile. The only track that I thought sounded slightly better on the S400s was the last rock track, since the Harbeths were lacking in bass and dynamics. When I heard the track on the Harbeths, it sounded very congested but it was not much better on the S400s. Most of the congestion was coming from the recording, which is very compressed. We should keep in mind that the Harbeths will cost you almost a thousand dollars more in the U.S. but they are made in the U.K. while the S400s are made in China.I am not knocking the S400s and they may be a good choice for some listeners. But I am always skeptical of products that seem to be the latest darlings of the audio press. Good alternatives would be the NHT C3 and a few models from Ascend Acoustics (made in the U.S.). With a subwoofer, these speakers would be roughly equivalent to the Buchardts in price and performance.
The P3ESR sound better in my opinion.
The Harbeths do sound a bit shrill in the midband to me. The voices are overaccentuated, too etched, but there's no bass. The 15 ohm LS3/5A does the same disappearing trick but the bass hump gives an impression of lower end authority.
All that tech and still beaten by tiny 4.5 inch driver.
Harbeth p3ers speakers have a better response with the grilles on!
Thanks for the demo. Do you think yamaha 1200 amp pair well with Buchardts mkii?!
Ear Fatigue with Evo, can't listen for hours and hours on this setup. He's voice in last songs sounds more natural with buchardt
On Mr. Gambus, Harbeth I can hear the texture of the percussion/strings. The Buchardt not so much! Im not even sure that the buchardt are even in the game.😂
I'm hearing these through my Spendor Classic 2/3's and the Buchardt sounds sweeter - more prominent in the high end and the tracking of notes and passages across the frequency spread is much superior to the Evo 4.2. But, if you listen to a lot of piano music, my Evo 4.2's sound better than my Spendor's at 1/5th the price. Its not a jack of all trades but a master of one for sure.
Thw Wharfdales presented a fuller and richer sound and is my preference. Both are great speakers but the Wharfedales offer a much better value for your money.
Bro, what are you listening it through?
Wharfedale EVO speakers the Range is excellent.
I much prefer the sound of the buchardt speakers .I think they are a smoother sounding speaker . The Wharfedale's I'd find fatiguing after an hour or so..
Wharfedale better in many ways aspetially highs.
Buchardts sounded small compared to the EVO 4.2 on the Supercharged track....
COMPACT 7 ES2 first place , for wider soundstage vs P3ESR which is a little bit narrow.
I have the special edition in fauna and I the silver wire....with svs subs they are awesome 😊
The Buchardts sound brighter, more detailed, airier, and with better bass. These would be my pick.
Harbeth P3esr are better.
Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Only a comparison video against a different type of speaker can highlight what the p3esr type speaker can do and what it cannot.
don't bother watching; just another stupid video of youtube quality sound.
Clear harbeth wins for me, more open, more detalies, and response is fenomenal. really sad for me, I can't afford them :(
A fair and useful comparison would be Buchardt S400 vs Harbeth C7ES-3 XD (or the M30.2 XD at the very least). The P3ESR is a completely different kind of speaker. It's like comparing oranges to apples and if one doesn't have possibility of listening to both, it does not give a real metric of how good is one or the other in their own realm....
The review was based on price point and size. In fact the current version of the P3esr costs more than the S400. The C7 is a much bigger box. Both C7 and M30.2 cost much more than the S400.
@@sleme1972 But the S400 is significantly bigger than the P3ESR too! The volume of the P3ESR is 10 litres, the Buchardt is 18 litres. That's almost 2x the size. Moreover, the two bass alignments are different with the little speaker having the sealed box. I suggested the C7 because you have them too. But I agree, the C7 is too good and way above the S400. However, price is never a good primary criterion unless there is big difference like 10K vs 1K. But few hundreds or even 2x is not GENERALLY a good parameter in my experience.
Upper mids on the p3esr are very very good a little forward but Yamaha amp also while the vocals sound more realistic than 7s the 7s i can hear deeper into the music and more sparkle up top -
Hl-p3 for me please
Great album 👌
Hi Thanks for the nice video. Glad to discover a fellow Malaysian hifi kaki. I disagree about the comments that the P3ESR cannot rock. I own a P3ESR driven by Naim Nait XS in a small 10 X 15 feet room and it definitely rocks! Naim/Harbeth is a match made in heaven. I do use a JBL subwoofer though. The P3ESR definitely sounds clearer to me than S400 in your comparison
I just bought a used s400 mark ii rosewood at good value . Updating Feb 2023 i when to compare with M30.2 XD i prefer s400 Mark ii . Matching a Right amp very important for s400ii i have Tryed few brand i Find naim and pass LAb pre and power very suitable
Harbeth has no chance against Buchardt. Comparing individual disciplines makes no sense. What matters is the musicality, authenticity, emotion, rhythm and credibility of a stage. The Harbeth has no chance
This is very funny! 🤣😂🤣
Just found your channel! another Malaysian!
Its a hard call, HLP3 sounds good as well on the vocal, more relaxing than P3esr.... love both.
Based on your experience.... u think 50watt per channel, good enough to drive the P3ser? (my listening room only 3x3.5m) thanks.
Yes, absolutely. I have used the P3esr with 30w per channel and it is still great. Doesnt need a lot of power for it to sing. The S400 on the other hand, I find that it needs more to make it sing.
i am with u, for my taste of musics, P3esr is my pick. best for mid 👍
well presented.... thank you.
Clearer, brighter and clearer sound.. .. Harbeth.
wow, this is a great video I can't believe it, but I prefer the p3. little more focused.
Harbeth P3esr - Hands down!
For me the Harbeth sounds more alive whereas the Burchardt sounds slightly flat.
Prefer the clarity of the midrange of the P3...with my Sonneteer Alabaster amp....listen to stuff like Sparklehorse , Grandaddy & Willy Tea Taylor etc so guess I'm in the mellow/rock category.
I prefer the harbeths because of the magical mids. S400 obviously more dynamic and recessed in the mids. Depends on what you’re looking for.
P3esr sounds more real tonally. I would keep the p3esr over the hlp3. The hlp3 had more emphasis on the higher midrange frequencies which just made it sound slightly off to me.
I have to agree with this, there’s significantly more sense of “full Range” from the ESR. Now whether that deviates from the 3/5A intention I can’t comment on, but the ESR produces the notes of the double bass, the p3 doesn’t.