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GREAT OLIVIA
Cult leaders and Kim are narcissists at the least...
Olivia and the OG Sister Wives made a good choice on leaving this toxic judgemental way of life.
Why do polygamy & fundamentalists followers isolate siblings from each other? Like the way, they don’t have any communication with children who may be gay or different. I love my son unconditionally!
Okay, I have so much respect for Olivia! She could have thrown that family under the bus 1000 times harder than that family threw her under the bus. But she is a class act and let them fall flat on their faces completely on their own account. 🎉
I could not believe what Ethan said to you about going back to your family and you not cooking for him!! You have far more grace than I would have!!!
honestly, why wouldn't Ethan want Olivia to go back to what he grew up with? It completely served him. He would not have to cook, clean or raise kids. He could do his work and tinker with his cars and not actually have to be responsible to/for anyone. Also i found it so ironic that Ethan was uncomfortable acting like nothing was wrong around Moriah in that 2nd to last episode even though Olivia felt the same way about Micah and Ethan did not support/understand her with that. The hypocrisy and misogyny is insane. Honestly, I think the perfect woman for Ethan is a blow-up doll that way he wouldn't have to talk at all or deal with a spouse who has a brain.
Bless her heart. This is an entire family of gaslighters, manipulators, and narcissists. So happy that she got out.
Great interview!
I dont like the fact that she played the blame game and didnt take any responsibility for her part in the disfunction..i get the host is team Olivia but it would have been nice to be a bit more unbias ..
Just love her!! ❤❤
Olivia is amazing. F that family.
“She’s the devil Bobby Boucher”
Goodness I love Olivia.
Fyi the comments by the obvious fundie people trying hard to knock Olivia down are hilarious. Closed minded and brainwashed sticks out like a huge sore thumb. Save typing with those big sore fundie thumbs because Olivia knows her future children will be loving and open minded like she is. We watched the sister wives show crumble and the Plaths fundie group is going to deconstruct and all these kids and Barry and Kim are also going to crumble in the public eye.
Seriously,I agree with those other comments and am not “fundie” not by any stretch of the of the imagination. For someone raised by a covert Narc, I had ptsd triggers watching Olivia. I’m not saying Kim is any different, in fact I think they are very much alike. I don’t believe for a minute she was this sweet innocent DIL victim. She definitely influenced Ethan’s siblings against his family. She dropped breadcrumbs all along from the beginning to “de program” them. She never truly loved Ethan nor respected him. The respect was not mutual and I’m happy Ethan can live his life the way he wants and without guilt, shame or manipulation. Respect goes both ways. Good riddance Olivia!
I have so much respect for Olivia. She is such a great energy, had shown she is wise beyond her yesrs and is so progressive and open minded. She has shown that you can get through that kind of programming and do the inner work and bloom into a wonderful woman who is so accepting that there was no fixing this. It was time to cut from the crazy Path train. Also note to producers it is time to stop funding those Plath groomers. Get rid of the show it isnt entertaining it is disturbing how this whole family is messed up. It accomplished that anyone interested in dating any of those kids should watch this show and run far away fast. Great comfortable interviewing Mary Payne.
Hmm I think I was wrong about Olivia…She is a class act and pretty cool for laughing it off and staying out of the mud I’m sure it took a lot of healing and growth. Kinda feel like Kim groomed her almost.. such a strange dynamic. Sad how none of them had her back when she clearly has protected them and turned the other cheek ALOT
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Everyone's path is their own, Olivia has her path.. she seems happy and that's great. She also needs to respect everyone else's. If she left her culture and went out in to the world, and enjoys it and doesn't want to go back home, that's great, you like it we love it. But she doesn't have the right to decide that the "reason" the Plath kids went back home was because it was "too hard" in the world. Everyone's experience is different. If they had their experience and decided they appreciate the values and lifestyle they grew up in, that's perfectly fine for that person. If you pay attention to what Moriah said, she went through a process, found who she is, who she wants to be, and that person is living where she chooses while embracing her roots and her faith, that is ok. It's no one's to judge. Including Olivia's. Olivia and Ethan are both still young and have a lot to experience and learn, especially how to move through relationships with people. That comes with maturity down the line. This conversation here was a bit toxic but hopefully she will move past it. We all thought we knew it all at this age, but they have so much ahead they don't know about, and with that experience will come wisdom and the power to know you will live all of your life having a lot to learn. None of us will ever know it all. Having gone through a divorce from a 24 year relationship, it's not easy to restart your life, but they are young and have already landed back on their feet, at some point, you have to stop reliving that part of your life and turn the page so you can grow and evolve. One thing we want to wish for all of them is peace and happiness, and as a family, the Plath's should do all that they can to reunify and rebuild because they went through a very tough time, publicly, and anytime a family can heal and come together, you want to support that. There is enough divide in this world as it is today.
Gosh I love her ❤ I wouldn't watch the show if she wasn't on it.
Their will not be a show with out her on it....
Cant watch this past a few minutes. Very toxic conversation!
Olivia will never be my hero here is my reason why, during season 4. when Olivia made a huge scene at the cemetery! I used to like her until that part and when I saw her behave that way and making a huge scene, I wanted to slap her. Who does Olivia think she is, so what if the family wanted Kim to be there, guess what Olivia, Kim had that right. No, I am not a fan of Kim and I can't stand her, but Olivia lost my support for her. I think Olivia is nothing but a selfish human begin.
Amazing interview, it’s like two friends talking
One hour of two unhinged people in an echo chamber
Great interview!
Good heavens, you just have the answer for everyones life. You and the host have nothing kind to say about everyone. Let's step back and take a real look at yourself as you have traits of Kim, which is why Ethan was attracted to you. You expected Mariah and Micah to keep their selves away from the family because you were, I think you are spiteful. I don't care what the Olivia fan club thinks or feels. Olivia move on quit bashing. They were allowed to raise their kids the way you wanted to and if you went against what they wanted, you were in the wrong. You can't make that a right on your part. Maybe you are the strange one 😂
So a buse is ok? Hmmmm....
Kim in a bikini. Gross. I'm a little chunky woman and wouldn't be in a bikini around my kids.
Sorry but she lost me when she said her kids can choose their gender. What an adult decides to do is one thing but I'm not for children transitioning. Too many are not just supported by their parents but pushed into it. So absurd considering how many later decide that was a mistake and Abortion is not healthcare unless the woman is told her life in is in danger because her body can not carry a baby. That's very rare. My opinion and I am right.
I don't think that's what she meant. You read too into "children". A human born to another would be that humans child/kid. Even when they are adult(18+) humans.
I blame Kim for this. She was horrible to you and now look at her. In a way she acts like she's 16 and her behavior is 100 times worse than what she thought of you. I hate that Ethan couldn't stand up for you more.
Kim herself was in an abusive relationship. She ran when she could
Narcissists are mentally toddlers...
I hope that Olivia goes to school. She is so intelligent.
She's a great photographer. Why would she need school?
@@Saintsrockitallshe might not need it. But it may be something she wants to do down the road in her later years of deconstruction.
What?@@Saintsrockitall
@@Saintsrockitall that doesn't mean anything. Education is valuable growth and an opportunity she hasn't had. It's empowering and builds on who you are as an individual. I'm working on a bachelor's degree and will continue on to a master's degree as a mature adult. I have been working in the field I got a college degree in and I'm making a switch. They say people today in America have about 3-7 career changes in their lives. Plus she is always interested in trying something new, i.e. bartender work, modeling.
@@sodisgusteen That's fine if she decides to do it but there are many talented people that support themselves and their family without a college degree. My former director is a great example of this. We assumed he had an EE degree too. We later found out at a dedication ceremony that he had no degrees and even dropped out of HS at 17 and received a GED. He retired in 2016 and does contract work for all the major communication networks. He's just one of thousands.
Love her
I'm SO happy that Olivia is single and living her best life. Also, I'm gay and I'm super happy to know that she's an ally. Go live your best life, Olivia! You're GREAT!
Olivia dodged a bullet! Her future is bright.
The truth is they both dodged a bullet because it's important to have the same family values and to be spiritually aligned as a couple for it to last. It's best these topics are discussed very early on and throughout the relationship.
Great interview. Olivia is so strong and wise beyond her years. I can’t wait to see what’s next for her. I got married young to a man that also had a mother that far too involved in our relationship. She would constantly cross boundaries, emasculating my husband, and put herself in the middle of our relationship. It was especially weird because she didn’t do that to his younger brother and his relationship. It was hard because I didn’t have the self confidence or the life experience to navigate that kind of manipulation and it was at a time pre social media (just the beginning of MySpace) so they’re wasn’t content talking mental health and therapy or about how we, as women can empower ourselves and don’t have to put up with someone’s manipulation just because they’re an elder. The language just wasn’t readily available. Our marriage only lasted 2 years and I was so embarrassed that it only last that long and felt like a failure. As hard as it was time at the time, 15 years later I’m so glad I got away and was able to grow as women and learn my worth.
The show will go on honey. can not wait to see who bags Barry, Amber & Isaac's evolution. Love Plathville. Bye 👋🏿 Olivia 🚪
Olivia could easily carry her own show. She doesn’t need them
Who was hurt by Ethan drinking? His mother. Alcoholism runs in his family. That's why she didn't want that around her son. Olivia could careless. Now brings it up. It's HIS STORY TO TELL. Everything Barry said about Olivia is true. SPOT ON. This is why Kim didn't want Alcohol on the farm. Fk Olivia. She is literally the snake 🐍 that fed the Plaths so many poisonous 🍎s. Bye 👋🏿 Olivia 🚪
Who taught Ethan to drink?
JFC. Are you serious? Ethan is a grown ass man who made the decision to try alcohol, a totally normal thing that most young people, especially when they were sheltered, try at that age. You all love to emasculate Ethan and treat him like this delicate flower that just can’t make decisions on own. I’ve read all your unhinged spam comments. You seem to be projecting and making a whole lot of assumptions about a bunch of strangers you have never met.
@@JustLindsayH My point is for her to bring up him using alcohol to cope with who she turned out to be when she's the one who brought alcohol into his life is rich.
@@mmeadows9999he clearly wasn't taught a healthy relationship with vices and, that's his parents fault. His mother clearly has a problem with drinking and instead of sheltering him she should have been honest. Of course he's going to over indulge. Because he wasn't allowed experimentation. And now everything he was taught is coming true because he never had any guiddnce, only restriction.
@@mmeadows9999He became an adult.. he was always going to have access to alcohol eventually. It's up to us as individuals to keep a handle on things and not abuse alcohol. We can't put blame on others for alcoholism.
@@alannak.5786Well she did try pushing it on him if we are being real.
Bye Olivia ✌🏿👋🏿🚪
Why are you spam posting hate?
It's actually Kim 🤣🤣🤣@@mindoablues
kim bob we know it’s you 😂
Do you think pretending to be black gives more credit to your shit post? Embarrassing.
Moriah?
Protecting your mom 😮 shocker.
Olivia's shown a lot of grace with how she's spoken about and interacted with the Plaths. She has a lot of integrity.
I totally agree, and I think this interviewer was sort of mean spirited and vicious. IMO
Olivia did not just find out Ethan's values. She used him to escape.
Snark63? That you?
What values?
The cooked a meal question wasn't far fetched 🙄 And college is full of drunkenness. Olivia KNEW WHO ETHAN WAS BEFORE MARRIAGE. She married Ethan for the wrong reasons. She had a choice. It makes perfect sense. Olivia lied her way into this family for selfish reasons. Olivia is a scam.
I'm in the sub reddit for welcome to plathville.. and everyone thinks Olivia is SOOO great and Ethan is a POS. I tend to see right thru her act.. I can see behind the mask. People who aren't easily manipulated can see this woman is acting and that she's really not a nice person on the inside. Ethan is messed up in his own ways but she's so awful to him all the time, I don't blame him for not attempting to communicate anymore. She used them to get up. She poisoned Kim's kids with toxic shit as some kind of revenge to her own family.
Damn, you couldn’t get your thoughts together for one post? Get it together crazy.
She had a choice to leave too. So she did 🤷🏼♀️
This has got to be one of the Plaths. It's sad how that family can't see how they are def the issue. It's gonna be awkward to watch them fall apart and not have Olivia to blame
Ironic Olivia hates on the Plath family but is on their Plath family platform 🙃 She's on their coattails thirsting for their family name that she obtained under false pretenses! Bye Olivia 👋🏿🚪
If it weren’t for Olivia, there wouldn’t be a show. The Plath kids are ignorant, not that talented, and about as fun as watching paint dry.
So Kim HIRED Olivia to do what she did. Olivia was paid. Olivia is jealous. At 16 Olivia knew she wanted out of her faith and family. She didn't "change" she revealed her true colors AFTER MARRIAGE. Olivia had a fking choice 🙄
Kim lived for her children. She accepted a drab marriage for her children. Her children spent 4 seasons throwing her efforts as a mother back in her face. Her reason for sticking around was no longer there. Kim learned the hard way that she needed to live for herself too. She needed support. Thank goodness she got it. Proud of Kim. Fk Olivia and "Pink Shade"
Lol, refusing to educate her children and using her children to avoid housework and childcare isn't "living" for her children. Power, obedience, and control are fickle and unfortunately in her efforts to obtain these from her children, she fell into a cult that told her she could take away the carrot and beat them with a stick to obtain these things. She changed because she realized she lost and had to change tactics to the "fun" mom. Alcoholism is a tragic disease that magnifies a person's selfishness and blinds them to their own shortcomings.
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So it's only ok for Kim to "live for herself" and, no one else? Got it. It's OK for Kim to get arrested for DUI and potentionally kill someone but God forbid Olivia set boundaries.
Ok... Kim/Moriah 😂
Do you even watch or know them? Her reason for sticking around was no longer there? Do you know that she has other minor kids at home? So just forget them then?
The Plaths didn't forget why they rebelled they forgave. They're family. It happened and Ethan forgave his mother. Good for Kim for not feeding into your bs Olivia. Kim is not to blame for who Olivia is. She's toxic.
why are you dickriding the plath family so hard?!?
Moriah apologized for overreacted. Olivia absolutely withheld Moriah's music to get the reaction from Moriah that she got. Olivia should have sent Moriah her music information the day she deleted it 🙄.
Ok Moriah
yawn. this was proven to be not true.
I thought the SAME!!!@@lisaandmatthieu4570
This girl takes zero responsibility for the way she moved in the Plath family. She says ALL her fall to not take responsibility for what was her fault. Olivia was a toxic addition to the Plath family. Dealing with Olivia's conditional love helped the Plaths appreciate the true love they has in their family. By the way, Moriah knows how to be there for her family. She's a pillar of her family.
Yep. I agree. She came in to destroy them.. but then they realized the problem was her. I can't imagine trying so hard to raise my kids well and then some entitled narcissist comes in and starts exposing my kids, suddenly, to all this shit to destroy them?? No wonder kim said all those things.. I saw it all in the very beginning.
Ok Moriah
Wait which Plath is on here spitting this vitriol? WE ARE TEAM OLIVIA!! You’re not convincing ANYBODY that she’s anything other than an angel. So glad she’s escaping this terrible family. Only Christian when it suits you. So fake. So phony. THANK GOD OLIVIA IS FREE
Delusional comment.
moriah is an obnoxious spoiled brat but okay
So much tea!
Olivia, don't let no one stop you from evolving into the person you are meant to be. Keep moving forward and upward.
Olivia is an amazing person and wised beyond her years! It’s most definitely easier to go back and not do the hard work to change. Changing the outside vs. doing the work to educate and grow the inside.