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Txy for this awesome video ! Greetings from south bavaria
Thank you for finding my info from so far away! Doc T
Thanks dear for this video can i do it for another animal like sheep and goat..
I would think so, as this idea was given to me by a nurse who told me about doing this to human infants with umbilical hernias.
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good morning all right I saw your video I found it interesting I have a 2 year old foal he has a small hernia in the navel I can end it with this procedure
How well are the results? Any infections from doing this? Does it slightly pinch some of the intestine?
The goal of this procedure is to push the contents of the hernia (omentum, fat, intestines) back into the abdominal cavity while at the same time, applying the wrap. Your fingers will feel this happen and the hernia edges will become evident when you “practice” reducing it before wrapping. There often is some resistance as you push everything back in, so practicing gets you accustom to the individual’s hernia (they all feel a bit different). Once you are comfortable that all the contents can go back into the abdomen, use the gauze to reduce it. Once you are sure all contents are in, you can feel the edge of the hernia, and the gauze is in position, apply the wrap to keep the contents in the abdomen. Again: practice reducing the hernia, feel the edge of the hernia (a circle the size of a finger and usually much smaller than the size of the visible hernia), apply the gauze and feel through this to be sure the hernia contents are back in the abdomen and the edge is felt, THEN wrap without moving the gauze. I cannot believe that any abdominal contents would become trapped in a partially reduced hernia while doing this, however, I assume you are diligent and thoughtful as you compress the hernia while applying the wrap. Foals seem to stand quietly while doing this. I would not recommend laying the foal on their back to allow gravity to help you as most foals would fight this and it would be difficult to pass the wrap around the body in this position. Infections and pinching the intestine or other abdominal contents may be possible if you are not careful. Practice reducing the hernia to become comfortable with what the fully reduced hernia feels like, as well as getting the foal comfortable in what you are doing. Ask your veterinarian to help you if you are worried about your ability to do this. He or she should be able to confirm that you are doing this correctly. The results of wrapping an umbilical hernia that has a diameter of about your index finger (~ 1 inch or 2.5 cm) is excellent. With some foals, one week is enough to achieve a closed hernia. But if it is not fully closed, wrapping again for another week usually works. Practically speaking, keep the first wrap on as long as possible. If the wrap still securely compresses the hernia, leave it in place for 2 weeks. Don’t change a wrap that is still working just because it has been 7 days. Removing the sticky wrap can be uncomfortable for the foal so once is enough for that, if possible. Take your time and wrap it correctly the first time. The biggest reason for a wrap becoming lose is the shedding of the foal’s hair coat, something that is unavoidable in the spring. As always, look for irritation between the wrap and the stifles. If this occurs, use scissors to partially cut the wrap at the point of irritation to release the pressure and attend to the skin rub.
Thank you so much for all the helpful information and being able to reply back so quickly. We were struggling with the hernia bc the hole is closing up and was hard to get all of the hernia inside without it slipping out on the edge of the hernia but I think it’s looking good, thank you for this video
Se puede hacer este procedimiento a un becerro/ternero de 2 semanas de nacido? Excelente video y saludos de Chihuahua
I have a horse I thought was a yearling who lost his first tooth. How old does the first tooth come out?
When aging a horse, knowing the actual birth date often leads to either a false age or a range of months they could be. For example, the horse is 1 year old, plus or minus 6 months. For some people, the term "yearling" can mean 1 day shy of 2 years of age. I see this every day in practice. Yesterday, a horse owner said her horse was "a 5-year-old but would be six in 3 days." The other point about aging horses by their teeth is that horses shed their teeth at various ages. I made a project of looking at horses from 3 years to 30+ years, photographing the incisors from straight on, the left side, the right side, and the lower chewing surface. I grouped the photos by age and also by view. From looking at the project, it is almost impossible to age a horse by their teeth. Go here to see the project: www.thehorsesadvocate.com/horse-care-topics/aging-horses-by-their-teeth/ The upper central incisor caps are the first to shed, which can occur as early as 2 years of age and as late as 3 years. 2 1/2 years is in the middle, so I say these shed at 2 1/2 years of age. Usually, the lowers follow about 3 to 6 months later. The permanent tooth erupts into wear usually within 6 months. As your "yearling" ages, look for the middle caps (between the central and the corner) to shed at about 3 1/2 years and the corner caps between 4 and 5 years. Remember this expression - "Full mouth at five," although in many warmbloods, the corner incisor caps can hang on for a while. There are an infinite number of variations to when they shed, so this is why I refuse to age horses by their teeth, other than to group them: Young (2 to 5), Young Adult (6 to 12), Adult (13 to 18), Early Senior (19 to 24), and Senior (25 to 30+). Having the "birth certificate," of course, is best. ;-) Doc T
Hola sirvió este metodo
Fantástico Gracias por compartir. Doc T (Translation - [comment] Hello, This method worked [Reply] Fantastic! Thank you for sharing. Doc T)
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What hay specifically? Can I feed alfalfa hay? Tifton! Pls be specific on the hay
Any hay from grass or legumes. The point is that the cause is still unknown, but I believe it is a neurodegenerative reaction to an abnormal metabolism secondary to prolonged intake of excess glucose. Removing grain affects the metabolism in a positive way. Some horses take 6 months or more before they start to sweat. You may need to soak the hay in water to remove excess sugar to get some horses to begin sweating again.
can this be done with a yearling or is younger foal better ?
Yes, but the abdomen closes better in young foals. It’s worth trying versus surgery, which can always be done later. A rule of thumb is if they are older (yearlings), the wrap might need 3 to 6 weeks. If the hernia is smaller when you change the wrap, then keep wrapping. If it remains the same size and you are confident you are applying pressure to the hernia with your wrap, then it probably will not close.
My horses do not get grain or any feed. They get grass hay but are on just pasture right now. They also get a vitamin/mineral mix. My 15 year old mare is sweating a lot less this summer. This is what is in there Vitamin/mineral mix Yeast Culture, Rice Bran, L-Lysine Hydrochloride, L-Threonine, Vegetable Oil, D,L-Methionine, Zinc Polysaccharide Complex, Copper Polysaccharide Complex, Vitamin E Supplement, Biotin, Cobalt Polysaccharide Complex, Selenium Yeast, Vitamin A Supplement, Ethylene Diamine Dihydroiodide (Iodine), Naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols, Rosemary Extract, Ascorbic Acid, Citric Acid, Lecithin, Natural & Artificial Flavoring
Horses don't need vitamins or minerals added to their diet if they are on an all forage diet along with well water and a mined salt lick (I talk a lot about this at TheHorsesAdvocate.com). All seed oils (vegetable oils) are inflammatory to humans as opposed to fruit oils (olive, avocado, coconut) which are very beneficial. Vegetable oils are used to lubricate the pelleting machines. Rice bran is the byproduct of the rice industry when whole grain rice is stripped of the hull and made into white rice. Hulls have lectins and are inflammatory in humans. Try removing this v/m mix and see what happens.
Any type of meds that can also help with the wrap?
I have never needed any meds for this. But if you do need them, be careful of sedatives as they can still jump or kick. Rather, the benzodiazepines work well with foals (Valium, diazepam, midazolam).
Cuanto tiempo dura con el vendaje??
Una envoltura dura unos 7 días. Reemplácelo si se afloja antes de esa fecha. 2 vueltas o 14 días suele ser suficiente. (Google Translate)
Also all our grains are soaked with pesticide. I believe this is part or all of the problem.
There is no proof that pesticides or herbicides are associated. However, I believe that any gut inflammation may be at the root cause. This includes lectins or high sugar causing an altered gut microbiome.
@@Theequinepractice of course there is o proof. Who has done a study on it? It certainly can't be beneficial.
My horse has cushings and needs meds. Thyroid powder has to be given in feed. I feed a senior feed but It does have wheat and soy. What am I gonna feed him?
Try hay pellets or hay cubes moistened with water.
@@Theequinepractice yea I have. Doesn't work.
Can you do this to a newborn foal? If the umbilical cord stud is dipped in iodine, will it dry up fine all wrapped up for a week?
Thanks for this question, Adrienne. I would not wrap a newborn. This is not an emergency; you have time to see if it self-resolves within 2 months. At this point, the foal is well adapted to human handling and should be better at tolerating this unusual event in their life. By the way, for those reading this and not understanding "dipping the umbilical cord," all newborn foals delivered in a dirty environment should have the stump of the cord dipped in iodine to cauterize it and kill unwanted bacteria. Dipping may be optional if the environment is clean (outdoors on grass). But even if delivered in a "clean" stall, if you are there, dip the stump! To do this, stand the foal up on their legs, so the stump is facing the ground. Next, fill an old, smooth edge coffee cup (or anything like this) with an inch (25mm) of betadine SOLUTION (not scrub) or tincture of iodine. Gently aim the cup's opening towards the stump, press it against the foal's belly, and let the dancing begin. The sloshing will cover the stump with iodine. Wait for a pause in the dance, then quickly remove the cup. This result is a clean cover of the stump and NO iodine on your clothes. Many people try to pour iodine over the stump as the foal jumps up, never get the iodine on the area, but now it is splashed everywhere, including your clothes. Just a pro tip for those new to the foaling business.
What are the indications of a wrap instead of herniorrhaphy?
I learned this technique from a human infant nurse where the hospital would wrap umbilical hernias with great success. I just applied it to foals less than 6 months of age, and so far, it works every time. 2 to 4 months is the majority of the horses I have wrapped. I would suspect that in an adult (yearling or older), the success would decrease because there is less input to close the hernia on its own. The same thought goes with acquired umbilical hernias that require a mesh or sutures. In any case, trying a non-surgical approach first has no downside. If this approach doesn't eliminate the open space, surgery is available along with the associated risks (anesthesia, infection, etc.). Wrapping also is only a small expense and is, therefore, an alternative for horse owners with a low budget. And while expense is a factor, so is the benefit of decreasing surgical risks. By the way, I just saw this horse this morning (now 5 years old), and there is no evidence of a former hernia. Please come back in the future and let me know what you have found as you apply this to your practice. Doc T
@@Theequinepractice Thank you so much for explaining! I'm still a vet student and we were learning about hernias and the professor who is a vet surgeon was mentioning that in foals younger that 6 months the hernia is a normal finding and will go on it's own, unlike with calves.
@@AhmedSalah-gw4wv Congratulations on becoming a vet student! I like your professor's idea about these resolving on their own; however, in practice, it is all about what the owner wants. We, as veterinarians, are placed between what they want and what is good for the horse. As an option, wrapping the hernia puts you in a position where both can occur. Also, what if the hernia doesn't resolve? Will surgery be the only option for a 6 to 12-month-old? The divide between academics and on-the-farm medicine is often up to you. Remember to always have fun, but also never compromise.
How long is it recommended to leave the bandage for the hernia to be removed?
Most see improvement by the first bandage change. This occurs around 7 days, especially when the hair sheds or the foal sweats. After 14 days, the second bandage is again loose, but the muscle wall has closed. However, there will still be excess skin in the area, so palpate the muscle. If only the surface of one finger detects a depression, but the edge of the rent is gone, the wall will continue to close without further bandaging. Thank you for asking and string this approach for a non-surgical repair of an umbilical hernia in foals.
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God Bless Molly.
Absolutely agree!! Thanks for watching this. But I need to update this video. Molly passed away in 2020. We are all saddened. And worse, Hurricane Ida devastated this farm in August of 2021. But amazingly, Kaye and Glen are so incredibly upbeat - inspiring to all. They feel blessed with what they have and never complain - just like Molly.
Is it safe
It is transitory, not painful, and safe in horses. However, you can easily slip and fall if you step in the pool of drool.
Absolutely great information! I have an obese 17 year old gelding. I am wanting to start him on the no grain challenge. I currently have him on Purina grain, coastal hay that I am giving him and then he is turned out to pasture 24/7. How much alfalfa pellets would you recommend daily? How much soybean meal daily? Thank so much for your help and all the wonderful information!
Thanks Lindsey. There is a lot of info (this and updated material plus a course on feeding your horses) at TheHorsesAdvocate.com and The Horse’s Advocate Podcast (all services like Apple, etc). Excess body fat comes from excess intake of glucose (starch) found in the pasture, hay (all forms) and grains. In addition the ingredients in grains, complete feeds and balancers are inflammatory. All horses should only eat ground plants and not in excess of daily needs. This means that if there is enough pasture then he should not be fed any hay in any form. If done right then he will lose body fat. However this is when you realize just how much muscle has been lost. Adding 1 pound soybean meal per 1200 pound horse per day will help to restore the lost muscle over 6 to 12 months. All the details you need are on the website. You will need to go there and study this. For more info, please become a member there and also join the searchable private Facebook group “The Horse’s Advocate”. Thanks again for finding this info and applying it. Once you’re convinced this works then be sure to tell others to amplify this message - and help horses thrive in a human world.
30 to 60 days of antibiotics? That’s crazy, you can use other long action antibiotic’s and work way better, and peroxide irritates the mucus membrane! By the way your students so a lousy job!
That’s the worst horse dental job I ever seen, he does not see inside the horse mouth, he does not have a speculum or a head light to see inside the horse mouth, I bet he leaves behind hooks, ramps, weaves, sharp points etc. and he does not do incisor reduction, so he leaves the horses out of occlusion!!!!!
Thanks @Antonio Solis for your comment here. We obviously have a point of view on maintaining the teeth in horses. I always welcome a different point of view as long as it is civil because this is how we all learn. In today's world it seems like people just want to tear down others without giving a chance for dialog. I have had abundant discussions over the 4 decades of floating teeth with my fellow veterinarians as well as lay dentists on the subjects you point out here. Many of these responses can be found at HorsemanshipDentistry.com and at TheHorsesAdvocate.com. Generally speaking, the overall condition of the horse and the way the horse chews is often overlooked. We tend to focus on what our eyes see and by looking inside the mouth with a speculum and light source, we see things that appear out of "normal." It is how the brain works - to focus on what appears out of place (part of the reticular activating system or RAS of the brain). What I have done when I come across these non-normal things such as hooks, ramps, waves, sharp points is to ask 1) what has caused these and 2) is what I am seeing important? Another way of saying this is are they primary or secondary? This also applies to the wear of the incisors and the occlusion of the mouth. I look at all of these questions - whether these are primary or secondary to another cause - in my blogs and videos all published on the above websites. We all want to belong to a tribe of people who believe what we believe. This leads to a good feeling and when an opposing point of view is offered, we feel uncomfortable. This is called cognitive dissonance and it is becoming stronger and more divisive in the past 10 years. However this doesn't help the horses or the horse owners. After floating over 75,000 horses since 1983 along with a great veterinary education that taught me to question everything (and with an overriding desire to question ALL science), I find that most of what I see inside a horse's mouth is all secondary to the movement of the tongue and jaw that is affected by pain from sharp points. Removing all sharp points on all teeth (which I can do by hand and without medication in 97% of horses seen) appears to, over time, reduce or eliminate most pathologies within the mouth. In addition, removing grain from the diet also appears to reduce or eliminate pulp chamber decay and EOTRH. There is a lot we either don't know or we have got wrong with horses including their teeth. There is no money to do good science on these subjects. The result is only opinion and empirical (observational) evidence and I write and podcast a lot about this. The tribalism I want to support is aligning myself with others searching for the truth that will be in the best interest of horses. In other words, if you and I both agree that all sources of pain must be removed from the mouth (tongue and cheeks) then whether you and I do things differently (reduce or not reduce incisors for example) is of a personal choice. However both you and I cannot disparage another person's work without first personally looking at the teeth after floating. Because if you did, you would lose your bet about me leaving behind the things you mention in your comment.
My horse ran 14miles today but after he stopped running there was no sign of sweat on him also there was white foam around his mouth, any help to solve the sweat issue please?
The cause of anhidrosis is still not known. Horses on a grain free diet (no grain, no byproducts, no supplements with inflammatory ingredients) eating forage only started to see the anhidrosis resolve. Now, around the world, horses that are fed forage only (plus water and a mined salt) are telling me that their horses start to sweat in about 3 to 4 days. But there is more. These horses started to see improved recovery times after the cross country portion of the 3 day event or the endurance horses during their rides. I discuss some of these metabolic effects on my website TheHorsesAdvocate.com as well as on the free podcast "The Horse's Advocate Podcast" and in the membership portion of the web site. If you really want to dig in and join others trying to help their horses thrive in a human world, visit the site and find out how. Thanks for coming here and posting your question. Remember 1) all grain and grain byproducts are inflammatory to the digestive system, 2) hay and forage cellulose is converted into fatty acids and are a preferred fuel for muscles and 3) sugar (starch) consumed in excess of daily needs spike insulin and drive increased body fat as well as many inflammatory pathways. Doc T
@@Theequinepractice I’m planning to give lasix first time to my horse before his races would that be a advantage in the race sir, thank you
@@Hassankhan-cs3iu I cannot give you advice on medicating your horse. Please ask your veterinarian. The idea behind lassie is to lower the blood pressure to prevent epistaxis (nose bleeding) under exertion. While my physiology professor at Cornell thought this was ridiculous, many racing authorities have allowed for its use with specific conditions. Again, as followers of me know, the root cause of epistaxis is not being discussed. To learn more about how I think, go to TheHorsesAdvocate.com for a lot of free information - and consider becoming a member where you can ask more questions. HINT: It is chronic systemic inflammation that is at the root of most problems in the horse along with chronic protein deficiency. Thanks for your interest - Doc T
@@Theequinepractice thank you sir, I have a last question, what type of shoe would be best for a racing horse to run on tarnac (roads) steel or aluminium
Can i do this method in a 5 months old filly
Yes but there is a decrease in effectiveness with increasing age and size of the umbilical hernia. This works in hernias that are caused by a defect in closure of the abdominal wall (seen at birth). Hernias that appear later in life (in adults) from trauma might require surgery. Please consider returning here to let us all know how this technique worked for your horse. Also take pictures. You can post those at TheHorsesAdvocate.com if you become a member or join the FB group “The Horse’s Advocate.” Thanks, Doc T
Do you have a video on Cushings ?
Thanks for watching @FLgirl. Yes there is a Cushing's disease video I did here: www.thehorsesadvocate.com/horse-cushings-disease/
@@Theequinepractice Thankyou, what % protein do you think the cushings horse needs ?
Beer ! I cured a pony with dark beer.
Guinness Stout has been used for years. But removing the cause seems a better way to solve this issue than adding a treatment even if it is just beer. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great information! Thank you for explaining so concisely. My gelding has proud flesh from a summer sore on his sheath. My vet prescribed Nitrofurazone 6 weeks ago and it is definitely NOT helping, in fact, it’s worse. Now, I think he’s got a new summer sore on his pastern area. So frustrating. I dewormed him 4 weeks ago with Ivermectin and am controlling flies as best I can. Any advice would be so appreciated.
To be clear, proud flesh occurs below the hocks and knees in horses. The granulation tissue caused by a summer sore is a different beast and a tough one especially on the sheath. Ask your vet to mix the nitrofurazone with ivermectin and maybe some DMSO and apply that to the sore. There are other treatments. Some of these can become a cancer there especially on pink skin. It is impossible to wrap the sheath but there are fly coverings (sheath bras) that are commercial available to keep the flies off. Wrapping the sore on the pastern is easier and you need to apply these proud flesh prevention measures to that but unfortunately, until the cause is removed, the wound won't go away until cold weather. I believe in boosting the immune system. This can be done with weekly deworming with ivermectin for 3 treatments. I also recommend removing ALL inflammatory foods (ie, feed ONLY pasture, water soaked hay, mined salt and fresh water). No treats, supplements, balancers, etc. Add 1 pound soybean meal per 1200 pound horse per day to replace lost protein. For more information on this, please go to TheHorsesAdvocate.com and review the blogs on nutrition OR become a member and take the nutrition course and read the forums for members. Hope to see you there.
@@Theequinepractice Wow, thank you so much for not only replying, but for all the good information!! I am off to the feed store now for ivermectin and soybean meal and will immediately stop giving him any treats . I appreciate you taking time out of your day to pass along helpful advice, thank you!!
What kind of wrap did you use?
Elastikon made by Johnson & Johnson (in America). You should use the 4 inch wide but we didn’t have it here so I used 3 inch which worked but is more difficult to apply. Elastikon is elastic with adhesive so it sticks to the horse.
Thank you for taking the time to reply I have a one year old I'm going to try this in and see if I get any results I appreciate your help
@@aledor2921did this work for you??
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how many days do i have to do it
The size of the abdominal hole will determine how long it takes. Try 7 days and if not completely closed, re-wrap for another 7 days. This usually is enough time.
As a 28 year farrier, I see most of long toes being caused by farriers not addressing the dorsal surface when shortening the toe. Many only shorten the toe from the bottom, but that is only half of the job. Very few farriers even know this. Everything follows the toe, therefore, the heals will follow the toes as well, that is why they get under run. All your vectors analysis is absolutely correct and this is how I always visualized this but I have a degree in engineering and am a licensed professional engineer, not common for a farrier.
Thanks sheepdawg - it's all physics and math. I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Happy Thanksgiving.
then you will probably be interested in the work and excellent documentation being done by Progressive Equine Services - its being published on his facebook page. He posts pictures and xrays showing the progress of his rehab on hooves with caudal failure. check it out! May God bless us all as we strive to help horses ❤️🙏🐎❤️
The University of Auburn does cataract surgery.
Yes, cataract surgery is becoming more common with better results. See my podcast with Dennis Brooks, DVM for more.
My horse stopped sweating today. Moved him here from California 3 months ago to Florida. I will try your suggestions and let you know.
Thanks Erika - we all look forward to hearing from you with the results. Be sure to read all the comments under the blog: theequinepractice.com/no-sweat/
@@Theequinepractice thank you so much. I have fans on him and took him all grains and starches. He got a Guinness stout too. He's not breathing too heavy now, but not sweating yet. I will go to the blog and read up. Thank you again and I will keep you posted.
@@erikafreebird6449 Hey! How is your horse????
@@countchocula5379 He is fantastic. I changed his diet and it worked!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for sharing! Are you using vet wrap or some adhesive coated bandage?
I use an elastic bandage with adhesive on one side. I prefer 4 inch (10cm) but they only had 3 inch (7.6cm) width this day. Using something without an adhesive such as what you suggested here (vet wrap) will not work because this wrap needs to stay on for a week or two.
Do you have a video showing the lumps. If so can you link it please?
www.thehorsesadvocate.com/cheek-teeth-eruption-bumps-of-young-horses/. You will currently need to register and then log in but this will be changing around May 1, 2020. Becoming a member is free so just sign in to see the images of eruption bumps (and thousands of other images).
If hernia is little it dissapear with time..
The smaller the hole in the abdomen the better. Often an “outie” or an umbilical stump is misidentified as a hernia and these will go away over time. But a hernia is a soft mass that when pressed back into the abdominal cavity through the hole, the edges of the hole can be identified. This does not happen with an umbilical stump. Holes are often measured by finger size such as pinky tip, 1 finger or 2 finger hernia. If you can’t identify an edge to the hole then it is probably not a hernia. The hernia in this video was 1 ½ fingers wide.
What about sugars in grass hay? My horses have been grain free for several years. One became anhidrotic last fall, another one has PPID, another one IR. Looking for additional dietary changes I can make. I've started having my hay tested, and currently it is quite low in WSC and starch.
The cause of non-sweating is still unknown. I believe it has more to do with gut inflammation rather than it being an issue with glucose (starch). However PPID, IR and EMS are all related to continuous feeding of glucose every day throughout the year. Horses need a break from starch which is what happens in winter and the consumption of dormant forage. More info on this can be found in my blogs and in the nutrition course. TheEquinePractice.com/feed. Thanks for viewing this and commenting.
Can I do this to a 4 yrs old stud
This is a technique for foals born with an umbilical hernia. I have not done this with a horse older than 12 months but have had success with foals still nursing. I suspect that surgery would be necessary for yearlings and older; however, I would try wrapping first before having any surgery done. There is no downside to wrapping an older horse but be cautious in working around the hind end especially when removing any bandages adhered to the skin. If you decide to try wrapping I would be interested in hearing about your results. Doc T
@@Theequinepractice I will try wrap him and see what happens after and will let you know just one more question is it safe to ride him if he has umbilical hernia smaller than 3 fingers
@@albertomartinez8438 I cannot answer this because of several things. What is "safe?" Have you been riding him with this hernia already and if so, has it enlarged? Only your vet can answer this question. Also PLEASE REMEMBER that this tight bandage in front of the stifle is like a bucking strap so in this context it may not be safe at all. One way to look at this is to understand that any movement away from closing the hernia will not allow the bandage pressure to keep the contents within the abdomen and will not allow the muscle walls to close. I think if you want to give this a full try you will minimize his movement. I hate box stall confinement so keeping him outside in an environment where he won't run and buck is fine. But if this stallion (I assume when you said "stud" you meant stallion as opposed to a filly) acts with abrupt movements (twists, turns, digging in for a gallop, rearing) then these movements will not help the process and you can consider confinement and hand walking.
With all due respect, I’m surprised that you, a licensed veterinarian are doing this video and advocating this procedure be done at all. 2: That you’re using anything other just warm water for this procedure. As I’m sure you know this procedure has long been determined by the AAEP to be a procedure that is rarely if ever needed and when needed, NEVER use any kind of detergent, antibacterial or otherwise. And never use any petroleum products in this very sensitive area. Now, I didn’t just read this in some book, I have a masters in equine theriogenology and equine reproductive physiology from Colorado State University and although now retired from the horse business, I was a professional horseman for well over 45 years. As well as serving as clinic manager of several prominent equine only practices in my career. But for sake of accuracy, I will post the following link for you and your viewers to review. So, you and they please don’t take my word for it. aaep.org/horsehealth/why-and-how-do-i-clean-my-horses-sheath#:~:text=The%20traditional%20method%20of%20poking,potentially%20causing%20microabrasions%20and%20sores. My concern is that by promoting this procedure on KZread, you run the risk of people thinking that this is a vital part of good equine male husbandry, like regular dentistry and farrier work, which it is not. And sadly, I have seen and read posts on these types of videos where people suggest all sorts of cleaning methods that are very harmful to the horse and could ultimately lead to a serious infection and even inappropriate and excessive use of acepromazine maleate to help facilitate their procedures. Which we both know can albeit infrequently cause permanent penile prolapse in male horses. If I may suggest, a serious cautionary statement clearly outlining the proper cleaning procedure using ONLY warm water and rolled cotton would be appropriate and expedient. Then if they insist on doing this, once a year is a more than adequate frequency. Lastly, in my 45+ years in the business and all my experience working in a number of equines only practices. And having managed some very large breeding programs utilizing both live cover and AI. Having successfully bred several thousand mares. In all of this, I have not only never seen, but I also have never even heard of a case of a horse becoming ill from an excessively large bean in the urethral fossa. So, that argument does not hold water for me, although it is one that is often cited without supportive documentation, I might add. Please be advised that I make no claims of being a licensed veterinarian and I only post this reply to suggest to you that what is being portrayed here can and will in all likelihood be misinterpreted and misused to the detriment of some undeserving equines.
So sorry for the 2 yr delay but I just found this comment in SPAM which YT felt it had "bad words!" I just discovered all the spam that has been blocked and have immediately approved your - though you made this comment 2 years ago! Like you, I am at 49 years with horses and have seen a lot too. I think the AAEP article has valid points. I agree cleaning the sheet with anything that is antibacterial or done with frequency is not conducive to the male horse's health. I remember when Contagious Equine Metritis (CEM) started in the 1980's and the belief then was that it was caused by continuous use of Betadine scrub for sheath and vulva cleaning. I agree, for repro use just using clean warm water sets to do well. I have witnessed several male horses that spray their urine or do not drop for urination that have had accumulation of material literally the size of a golf ball and larger. But personally I have never cleaned my male horses and in addition, I have not used any soap on me (body or hair) for about 5 years out of respect of the microbiome of the skin. Just water and a wash cloth. The reason for this video is to help those who insist in cleaning their horse's sheaths to do it safely. Many people have been injured and if they are going to clean a sheath they might as well do it safely. The use of Ivory dish detergent is to lubricate the process. It is then rinsed out but if any remains it is not irritating to the sensitive tissue. Lubrication is important for the comfort of the horse. With the assumption that the soap is used once a year I don't think there is any problem. I do not advocate the use of any medications for cleaning the sheath. I personally never use Ace on any male horse which is counter to most of the veterinary profession. Until they have their 1st penile paralysis they will never know. And it's written in the instruction sheet of every vial.... Thanks for taking the time to comment. I have about 50 "SPAM" comments to go through. Doc T
Cold hose treatment makes worse, only use for initial clean up and inflammation
See the reply to your comment below about water use. It is only a gentle flow to remove debris but is not a requirement in this protocol.
So very informative!! Best explanation I have found!
Glad you found it! Thanks, Doc T
Can I do this method with pregnant horse ? As aclsed method for hernia?
This is a technique for foals born with an umbilical hernia. I have not done this with a horse older than 12 months but have had success with foals still nursing. I suspect that surgery would be necessary for yearlings and older; however, I would try wrapping first before having any surgery done. There is no downside to wrapping an older horse but be cautious in working around the hind end especially when removing any bandages adhered to the skin. If you decide to try wrapping I would be interested in hearing about your results. As far as pregnant horses goes I do not see an issue to wrapping them. The wraps are stretchable and should not constrict the uterus or fetus. In fact it may be helpful in preventing an enlargement of the hernia during abdominal contractions during delivery. Doc T
Thanks for the video! Not much out on how to wrap 👌
Wow Thank Thank Thank you for sharing your great video with us
Thank you
I've been doing this for years on my horses, kudos Doc Tucker
I've heard Epsom salt is good to use clean cavities out any truth to that?
The cause of cavities in horses is still unknown. From my experience I see dental decay lead to the fracturing of cheek teeth. There were no articles on cheek tooth fractures in horses in 1984 when I graduated. My hypothesis is that in the past 30 years the diets of horses have changed to the introduction of grains and grain byproducts in almost every domesticated horse. The prevalence and availability is ubiquitous which it was not in the 1980's. Decay might be brought on by the dysbiosis (altered gut microbes) in the mouth. There are approximately 700 individual species of bacteria normally in the horse's mouth. Research has shown that 1 dose of prevacox will eliminate a whole family of bacteria. I believe sugar from grains does the same thing. So - to answer your question about Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) as a repair for tooth decay in horses, my answer is I don't know but why not remove the cause instead? In 1932 tooth decay in children was linked to the consumption of oatmeal. In fact, they showed that removing oatmeal from the children's diet actually repaired the decay in some while arresting the development in most others. Food is powerful in both good and bad ways. If you want to know more about how the current diet of horses is affecting the health of horses please visit TheEquinePractice.com/feed. And thanks for this. Please reply if you have any good sources about Epsom salt in the mouth of horses and the effect it has on decay.
@@Theequinepractice I'm attempting an experimental treatment of irrigating the cavity with saline solution with calcium added while possibly holding low voltage electrodes to the cavity area this will streamline/speed up the calcium bond while through electrolysis extracting the damaged material on an molecular level. I'm afraid to use Epsom salt in the mouth and feel more confident with regular table salt. This old horse was on a sweet feed normally we feed out an equal mixture of whole oats sunflower seeds and pellet grain this year we fed out sweet feed because of the cold winter but we see now that it was a mistake they are off grain until winter as they have 20 acres of pasture to eat off of and they won't even come up to the barn for grain..the cavity Saxon developed is pretty severe and I doubt it's a salvageable tooth but I'll report my findings.
@@TheKrimzonGhost I just found this comment in a "SPAM section" of YT - didn't know there was a section! Thanks for this comment. I feel that grain is at the root of cavity formation in horses.