I think what they’re trying to do is, they are giving all the body type options for their 3 displacements: 350, 450, 650. You just have to pick one engine according to your taste and one body type according to your comfort. Hope this helps the audience to make decisions while buying. 👍🏻
@HunterVlog350cc4 сағат бұрын
yes they have loads of cash from their 350 lineup sales and now they are in experimenting stage where with each engine they have 4-5 launches planned so you see guerilla450,bear650, bullet 650, classic 650, Goan 350 are all lined up for next year
@ianhalliwell86044 сағат бұрын
Got to say i get a bit lost trying to sort out the difference between all these models. BSA on the other hand have just one bike and have had now for a few years, where are the twins they were famous for they seem, unlike RE to be missing a trick or two.
@jez62086 сағат бұрын
Don't buy them then.
@vasuki29087 сағат бұрын
is royal enfield famous in your couuntry ????
@wesleyjames.6 сағат бұрын
@@vasuki2908 Very
@davespruce43627 сағат бұрын
If you don't like something don't buy it you self obsessed man child.
@davespruce43627 сағат бұрын
Exactly what is your problem with choice. RE want as much of the market as possible, they're not in the business of pleasing you. Get over yourself 😅
@wesleyjames.5 сағат бұрын
@@davespruce4362 Each to their own. Sorry if I offended you, but let me reiterate 2 points. The first is that I don’t think the design looks akin to other bikes in their lineup. Therefore, I’m asking the audience whether you like it or not. I don’t. Secondly, I feel RE are releasing too many bikes, less is more.
@mrigankad11 сағат бұрын
Good for customers to have plenty of options. RE have only 10 models. Let them create as much new bikes as they want. It's a good thing.
@rskolokrsКүн бұрын
I think the 411 models will be discontinued soon, there is no real reason now for the scram and regular himalayan with the new models
@wesleyjames.20 сағат бұрын
Definitely, the Scram's days are numbered...
@studentofthegr8artКүн бұрын
Wish they brought the bullet 500 back.
@wesleyjames.20 сағат бұрын
There's plenty of good condition second hand Bullet 500's selling for cheap out there ;)
@sumeshm1474Күн бұрын
They may do away with air cooled motorcycles soon.. so 450 platform is the future for many other reasons too.. sweat spot between 350 (providing actual sales volumes) and 650 (which is already saturated and sales have come down).. also 450 will possibly help to meet Euro 7 (BS 7 norms)
@wesleyjames.20 сағат бұрын
That's a good point. In hindsight, a Classic 450 might not be a bad thing going forward.
@srinathiyengar.mudgal2 күн бұрын
Very excited and happy to see R.E doing this, after they did few bikes for 30+ years. With design houses in INDIA + EUROPE (U.K) working on this new concept, and providing LOW COST & GOOD BIKES for the whole world. It is very imminent to do this for R. E from competition point of view. They were late to start, but they have got goin6 now. People can choose from a wider range of bikes. Great work.
@wesleyjames.Күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I'm happy they're expanding the range, don't get me wrong. But I feel they're releasing too many at the moment. I like the idea of 1 bike (maybe 2) a year. I'd be keen to see new colourways for the Classic 350 for instance instead of constant new bikes...
@srinathiyengar.mudgalКүн бұрын
@@wesleyjames. Wow great and just expectation, maybe R.E guys have to hear you or rather think for future plans with your good thoughts.
@walt75182 күн бұрын
Good point, it does feel like chucking stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks... I bought a meteor 350 but did have issues with getting warranty parts, only the oil temp sensor and the speedo, but I had to wait for many many months for the sensor fix and am still waiting for the speedo fix. I bought early in 2022. It made me worry that if something more serious happened then it would take forever to fix under warranty. I'd prefer if they'd get that right first before new models. Also I'd like to see the GT/Interceptor updated to super meteor and shotgun spec rather than keep releasing new and ignoring these.
@wesleyjames.Күн бұрын
I agree, I feel a lot of their existing range (that work really well in the market still) have been neglected, and could use better refinement. Love the analogy of chucking stuff at the wall haha!
@kalyannnBH2 күн бұрын
They feel in love with 💰🤩💰.
@wesleyjames.Күн бұрын
You're not wrong there!
@ruahinesrider2 күн бұрын
RE makesthe most of their engines & models & definitely to many models.Shouldn't of bothered with Scram,Hunter & just done Supermeteor,Bullet,Shotgun.
@wesleyjames.Күн бұрын
Totally agreed... I think the Shotgun was rushed too imo
@ruahinesriderКүн бұрын
@@wesleyjames. I hope the next 650 bike is more Interceptor weight & not Shotgun weight especially if there's a Classic.
@davidcoleman49412 күн бұрын
I understand the point that your making, let them go if they make mistakes let them
@davidcoleman49412 күн бұрын
Hi memory serves that Harley-davidson often release several new models on a yearly basis, the difference is no one buys them. Royal Enfield is scaring the crap out of the competition.
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
@@davidcoleman4941 very true, I don’t really pay attention to anything happening in Harley land. They need some serious overhaul in their marketing and the way they are presented to new riders
@borderlands66062 күн бұрын
A lot of people are waiting for the Classic 650, to create a long-legged version of the very popular Classic 350. However, it's hard to see a twin cylinder motor having the same charm, especially one that has come to be identified with other models, even if the trappings are classically inspired. Royal Enfield have also adopted strange styling cues. For example the Shotgun seems like a good bike ruined by bizarre paint schemes and an afterthought exhaust. The Scram 411 arrived on the back of Himalayan popularity, and briefly shone before being deleted, and the Super Meteor has been let down by harsh suspension and a compromised power unit (at least for a serious cruiser). None of them are bad bikes, but if you're going to have a styling exercise on otherwise very similar motorcycles, the details have to be spot on and currently they miss the target.
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
@@borderlands6606 I agree with everything you said, in fact I think you summed it up better than I did! I think the Shotgun would have been much better suited in classic styling like the Triumph Bobber, instead of the (somewhat dated) graphics it came wrapped in. I guess that leaves plenty room for customisation, but you may as well be shelling out for a Triumph.
@enchantingstayskodai2 күн бұрын
Bro whatever you said was all pros not cons because same engine and same components means lower cost and parts availability for a long time. And releasing 4 bikes a year means you are getting more options and not everyone likes classic bikes youngsters need more modern retro of the orginal classic so they make classic as well as modern at an affordable price.
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
@@enchantingstayskodai You have a good point there buddy!
@morgan.enfield2 күн бұрын
We need a 850 cc twin !
@ruahinesrider2 күн бұрын
800cc Interceptor as they had the Prototype Interceptor 800cc Mk2b in 1970 & be nice to do that model updated as a new model.
@barrymoore11072 күн бұрын
I have been hoping for a RE single powerful enough for N American roads, in fact for the 442 in road trim
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
Do you like the Guerillas overall design? Or would you prefer the 442 in a modern classic?
@Kalakaar96912 күн бұрын
When they are launching new classic 350 chrome colour ?
@Kalakaar96912 күн бұрын
Your favorite colour in class 350?
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
@@Kalakaar9691that would be cool to see a new 350 colour range. Especially a new Chrome with blue for example. I think my favourite 350 is the black and chrome bullet
@dct1242 күн бұрын
Too many bikes 😅 They don't have enough. They don't even have a 1000cc bike. So you don't want them to release more bikes 😅
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment, I have no issue with the amount of bikes they have released to date, just the frequency at which they're doing so ;)
@kriscotner71052 күн бұрын
The more models the better! RE is just making up for lost time due to RE india having basically ONE model from the '50s to 2016, not counting the Lightning or T-Bird which are still Bullets. I think it's exciting and I'm counting the days until the Guerrilla is unveiled
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
You're definitely right in the fact they're making up for lost time! I'm happy with the amount of models, just unsure about the rate at which they're currently releasing them. Buyers and dealerships are struggling to keep up!
@kriscotner71052 күн бұрын
@@wesleyjames. Yes I already have a Meteor but if I was buying a RE for the first time it would drive me crazy trying to wait to choose
@lokeshkalburgi2 күн бұрын
Indians have traditionally been, and are still largely commuting-only riders, do you feel this is RE's attempt to introduce different styles of riding to the subcontinent? With riders like CS Santosh, and the recent Rally 2 winner Harith both showing how accessible MX and adventure riding can be, I feel as though RE is just setting their base for bigger and more powerful models in the future. Totally agree about Release Fatigue 😅
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
I really like what they've done (and I think everyone agrees) with the new Himmy 450, they're breaking new ground for the Indian and global market. I'm just not vibing the neo retro aesthetic of the Guerilla, and think they need to slow down on release frequency... Hope you're well bro!
@paulstevenconyngham78802 күн бұрын
Nice video, I don't really think the Guerilla 450 is for me either, I think R.E should stickwith their modern classic output
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
Agreed, time will tell which direction the brand follows
@AdityaDevSultan2 күн бұрын
It’s a choice if you don’t like the Himalayan
@iantownsend172 күн бұрын
Some good points Wesley. I agree it would be great to see a well engineered big single 500 or 600 that could achieve higher road speeds. Is a new classic 650 a classic 650 when it's a twin ? I don't believe so. The thing that put me off another enfield was the service intervals. For a country where you can do over 10000k a year, enfield should be focusing on longer engine service with reliability rather than new bikes that need 5000 k services . 👍
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment Ian, yes I think the true "Classic" of the line up is the 350 & 500. For me the service intervals would rack up quickly when I lived back in Auckland, as I would commute 50+ Km a day. I believe they may have increased them this year, I need to double check :)
@ruahinesrider2 күн бұрын
I did 9800km in 15months on my Interceptor & agree about needing longer service intervals.Also agree that RE gave released to many models.The Scram,Hunter should of not been released as the Supermeteor was needed as a forward control model & Shotgun for mid controls & Bullet 350 was a good idea too.They've saturated their stable & Scram,Hunter should of been put on the back burner or India only bikes.I loved my Interceptor & was out on it all the time & done alot of miles on it & took it on well used gravel roads which it handled well not so much deep loose stuff but rather save more & getter a better bike with higher service intervals.On Trident 🔱 now & did 5500kms in a year.2 bikes be good to keep kms down but Rego costs are ridiculous here in NZ 🇳🇿 $525 & National Party putting it up another $50🤯🤬 puts you off owning multiple bikes.You can go the put one on hold route over winter to save cash & months on Rego but you still got Insurance costs which are expensive here too.Even a 50cc Scooter 🛵 cost $400 a year🤯🤬. They'd be better off charging $200 per vehicle & they'd make more money rather than $525 for bike over 601cc & $125 for a car & over 1 million cars here,feels like persecution.BSA is in NZ 🇳🇿 now & has high service intervals & is a big single & low cost bike.Ducati just released the 659 & 698 big single & the most powerful single in the modern era but not a modern classic.
@wesleyjames.Күн бұрын
@@ruahinesrider I like your idea of the Scram & Hunter being released in India only, I really think they felt rushed and will be discontinued in the near future. Yes, bike registration and insurance is going through the roof. Making the appeal for a 450cc (Himalayan or CF Moto) very appealing. My insurance payments for my T100 were burning a hole in my pocket every fortnight!
@ruahinesriderКүн бұрын
@@wesleyjames. Bike Rego is Ridiculous in NZ 🇳🇿.About 8-9yrs ago they put Bike Rego up to $803 a year🤯🤬& there was a big public outcry & protest ride to the beehive. People doing burnouts on steps outside Beehive & people staying in tents ⛺.Put on by NZ 🇳🇿 Bike Rider magazine.After a day or 2 the Minister of Transport walked out to abuse & reduced price to $525 per bike 🤯🤬 still way to much.They justified increases because it takes longer to heal in health system which is free & paid by ACC.The problem with that theory is in NZ 🇳🇿 85% of bike accidents are caused by cars,trucks etc so in my opinion the cost should be spread across all vehicles like $200 each & they'd make more money & be cheaper for people who own a bike & a car😉.I wouldn't mind spending $200 on car Rego it use to be $212 anyway years ago & they reduced it for cars but bikes went up😲🤯 & pay $200 for bike instead of $725 a year it should be $400 a year & way more cars on road & they'd still make more money.
@ruahinesriderКүн бұрын
@@wesleyjames. The way I see it if you have to pay $400 for a 50cc Scooter 🛵 & you want a 601cc bike may as well just pay $525 for bike over $601cc.Bikes under 500cc should only be $200-$250max a year & bikes between 50cc-250cc should only be $100. 500cc-900cc $250-$350 & 900cc up $300-$400max. A 50cc-125cc Scooter 🛵 & bikes should really only be about $50max a year & use to be cheap to encourage more people to commute to work cause they're cheap to run & should be cheap to Rego & less pollution as well.
@HdtvTh2 күн бұрын
They can't really release any engine, other than single and twins due to regulations. There is a market for straight four carbureted, bare bones neo retro bikes with the late 90s style, sadly this is never going to happen, even tho bikes like the Bandit and Hornet are still hugely popular second hand. It's a sad state of affairs, we have 3 ton SUVs with special emissions loopholes, but we can't have motorcycles that barely register in the grand scale of pollution.
@paulstevenconyngham78802 күн бұрын
Amen brother!
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
Agreed, but luckily us garage tinkers have found ways to get around the engine restrictions! ;)
@JoshDros3 күн бұрын
As long as they can keep the quality up I say release as many styles as they can to appeal to as many rides as possible. More and more people are wanting smaller displacement bikes. They also aren't very popular in the States just yet. I'd love to see more of them on the road. They definitely bring a different style to the market that none of the "big" manufactures are doing.
@wesleyjames.2 күн бұрын
I'm surprised they haven't taken off in the states as much as the rest of the world yet. They're incredibly popular here in N.Z. But yes I agree, their quality keeps getting better and better, and great value for money too
@kruzerblade47403 күн бұрын
That being said, I am dying to see a 500 platform revival, everything in the market seems to be screaming an opportunity in the faces of RE, and they would be stupid to not capitalise on a market they defined. This could even be used as a platform to revive the retro Himalayan as a Himalayan 500, to give the old Himi boys something to cheer about, while still being a meaningful upgrade.
@wesleyjames.3 күн бұрын
Someone needs to get you a job at R.E, some great ideas!
@kruzerblade47403 күн бұрын
I think the entire point of the 450 line is to be Enfield's gateway into appealing to modern tastes with more modern machinery, while not touching the 350 and 650 lines, allowing them to keep hands on both sides of the niches. Unlike triumph which made the decision to completely go full premium, and change their 900 and 1200 bonneville series into liquid cooled modern machines, which consequently skyrocketed their prices, and made them lose that retro, air-cooled charm, Enfield chose to keep the 650s as faithful in feel as possible to the original. That being said, they know that they need to appeal to modern markets the same way triumph's modern motorcycles do, if they are to continue expanding as they desire. The 450 platform should serve as exactly that base, for more modern machinery, having their own niches for their target audience, without having to sacrifice the essence of the 350s and 650s charm. Imagine what a shock for the industry it would be, if Enfield suddenly announce that all their motorcycles would henceforth be liquid-cooled and dual overhead cam modern engines, just like triumph did back in the day. I think the decision to create a 450 lineup is perhaps the best decision enfield could have made for both modern and retro-aligned motorcyclists. But again, that's just my take :)
@wesleyjames.3 күн бұрын
I think that might be the best comment I've received on this channel, well written and informative. Love it! I think I'm against the design of the Guerilla, it's not my style, and doesn't feel like a R.E per se.
@borderlands66062 күн бұрын
RE have competing priorities. Emission regs mean we're unlikely to see a large capacity air-cooled single, which is why BSA and Royal Enfield are opting for liquid-cooled units. This fulfils the aspirations of the large non-Western youth market, who want a modern bike at a good price. The anglophone territory otoh, want a 1960s or 70s motorcycle with CNC engineering standards and electric start. I'm no expert, but air head engines running fast and hot are going to put out more hydrocarbons, so RE have to choke them or cool them. It's possible they could market an air-cooled V-twin or a bigger parallel twin, although I reckon the 650 might be as large as current standards allow. In a global content the money is in modern bikes, and we may have to settle for whatever retro variants are on offer.
@resin8n5 күн бұрын
Enjoyed the video. I have an Interceptor with S&S 865 kit, done over 10K, it has more power and torque than the T100 and I have money left over to customise. Here in Oz we have 10K service intervals. Thanks!
@danehenberg1667 күн бұрын
What an amazing quality vid , cheers mate!
@wesleyjames.6 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@clausentumsoton7 күн бұрын
Nice review! Pretty fair I would say having done 43000km on the Interceptor touring all over Europe and having a go on a friends Bonneville.. I agree, in twenty years time I'd probably like to see the Triumph in my garage BUT the Interceptor is hugely capable with a few mods.. suspension, gearing, better chain.. I don't find the front brake bad at all but it's common to criticize the back. It is not in my opinion a learner bike ( no bike above 400cc is) and it's a bike that many owners won't part with irrespective of the price. The Triumph was really good but I remember saying to myself at the time..'this is good, very good... but not good enough to warrant changing'
@wesleyjames.7 күн бұрын
@@clausentumsoton i love hearing stories of riders with loads of mileage on their RE’s. You should do a 50k km review when you hit that milestone. I think my argument was more leaning towards owning a second hand Triumph. I’m currently on the lookout for a new bike and have been eyeing up the Classic 350. I’ve been in love since I first rode one of the J series editions a couple years back.
@ahmadjavedaj8 күн бұрын
Thanks for doing this I was on the fence of getting one new or finding one used. This video has helped me a lot cheers from the US
@wesleyjames.7 күн бұрын
@@ahmadjavedaj you’re welcome, let me know when you get your Triumph
@weilionggan15 күн бұрын
Will go for royal enfield gt650
@wesleyjames.9 күн бұрын
I love the GT!
@MarkLincoln15 күн бұрын
Nice, thanks for this Wesley. Great to hear insights from someone of the same height for a change! Particularly interested that you found the Speed 400 to be better than the Scrambler 400X despite the size difference. Interesting stuff.
@wesleyjames.15 күн бұрын
Thanks Mark, for me it was all about the handling of the Speed. If I wanted something with a bit more versatility it would be the Scrambler no doubt. I just found the Speed so easy to ride
@crossfire746316 күн бұрын
Hey brother please respond to me asap I am in Auckland buying a continental GT 650 picking it up on saturday hopefully. The MR Clean version looks awesome with the SNS. I just want to ask you did you have insurance for your bike that was stolen and if so which insurance company? what happened did they pay market value for the bike? im confused as to what insurance company I should get. Thanks brother! Sorry to hear that it was stolen though
@wesleyjames.16 күн бұрын
No worries, use Swann insurance. Highly recommend! Good luck
@powergear521 күн бұрын
Nice review, clear, crisp and to the point. How is the vibration between the bikes, at what speed vibration kicks in both the bikes?
@savingclassicmotorcyclesАй бұрын
Hi Wesley another absolutely super video thanks so much for filming this I’ve been looking at a bike to replace the Tenere 700 I got for my dad as motivation to get through his stage 3b/4 prostate cancer (currently just recovering from an operation in hospital) an it’s the Triumph 400s caught our eye. Currently on the modern front I own an 1150gsa which I’m parting with so we can sell our house and downsize to the coast over here in the uk. In the past I’ve had an 865 which we both rode, 300 rally, 390adv x2 one mine. A one dads 411 Himmy an a slew of 1200’s vstroms a super bikes an a ex iom tt race bike. I think it’s awesome to see some lightweight bikes coming onto the market for experienced riders to a the Triumph addresses a lot of the complaints I had with the other bikes. Itl be interesting to see if we end up going for the street scrambler, t100 or one of the 400s in the end it’s great to see some more manageable bikes coming out, if you don’t mind me asking what’s your inseam? A keep up the brilliant work really is an excellent channel and it’s great to see Triumph taking notice.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, and insight into your motorcycle journey! I’ll have to get back to you on the inseam. Let me know what bike you end up settling on 👍🏼 Cheers, Wes
@savingclassicmotorcyclesАй бұрын
@@wesleyjames. thanks Wes will do :)
@ilpiraatmtbАй бұрын
How does this dude have less than 1k subs? Great work!
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
Thanks mate, you’re too kind!
@savingclassicmotorcyclesАй бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video, so hard to find people reviewing motorcycles now on KZread that actually own them as they get buried just subscribed absolutely brilliant video and thanks for sharing from across the pond in the UK.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback! Inspires me to keep going at it :D
@SaifHans25Ай бұрын
Which bike would you recommend going for between the scrambler 400x and the interceptor 650?
@dbsevenmoto3519Ай бұрын
Nicely done 🤘🤘
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
Cheers Deane!
@RasnaaaАй бұрын
Price segment is different. So, RE don't have to worry.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
They're pretty close here in N.Z, I think in India there might be a more significant gap
@nr0101Ай бұрын
@@wesleyjames. In India the scram is a lot less expensive than the Himalayan 450. Also coming from a Himalayan 411, tubeless tyres are great. If you include all of that there is no other bike with similar value for money. And I am loving the performance and refined quality over my 411
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
@@nr0101 Nice, I'm looking forward to riding the 450 Himmy eventually
@SunesenАй бұрын
I've downgraded from a liter bike with 150 hp to the Scrambler 400X and I'm having a blast. It's so nimble and the engine just pulls like a champ. Definitely not just a bike for beginners.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
I agree, glad to hear you're enjoying your new Scram :D
@raven88mxАй бұрын
I had a 250 cc before my scram400x, and i was having the greatest of time with it, awesome acceleration, nimble and a joy on the trails, then came it's 600 miles service and wow what a different bike it became a little beast!! Getting to the 9000 rpms brings me a smile every time!!
@TotallyNotEvil910Ай бұрын
Even if it's fairly expensive here in Brazil, I'm seriously considering the Speed 400 as a first bike over the 30% cheaper Hunter 350. Lighter weight should make it easier to handle, an engine that will keep up on the highway just fine (I'm heavy, and my city is bizarrely bisected by a major highway), liquid-cooled to handle the constant heat, and most important for me, it's a bike that features a full range of safety features- ABS on both wheels *and* traction control. LED headlight, assisted slipper clutch, inverted fork and an adjustable rear monoshock are a delicious package, too. Of course, the fact that it looks gorgeous, both stylish and elegant, also goes a long way. Just waiting for a demo model to test drive. Duke 390 offers a similarly feature-packed package, but I don't have a dearlership in town... And it doesn't look anywhere as good.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
I would 100% buy the Speed 400 over the Hunter 350!
@NoFrictionZone22 күн бұрын
I'm not in Brazil but those were my two choices, I'm glad I waited 7 months for the Speed! 🤙🤙
@jonathanwallis6854Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great review. If you don't mind me asking, How tall are you? , I'm hearing more and more riders who, like you, point to the speed 400 as the one to go for because of the handling, but Im quite tall ( 1 meter 90) so I always discarded it as an option. Hence my interest.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, I'm 6"2 (188cm) without boots. I actually found the Speed to be a more pleasant bike to ride, even though I was tall. I'd recommend taking them for a test ride, then let me know what you think!
@howlsbarks1078Ай бұрын
Buddy can do a review on shotgun 650 .. we need some real opinion.. most people just say the positives
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
I would love to ride one, they seem to have a really comfortable ergonomic. I plan on messaging R.E and seeing if they lend me one for a couple weeks
@edouardl2Ай бұрын
I did try both bikes and for both of them i found the brakes to be a bit weak. In terms of driving, I was more happy with the scrambler even with my short inseam as It just felt more nimble. I am surprised too that you didn't speak about Versys x which has exactly same power and is very strong both on road and on light trails. Before to purchase any of these two bikes, i would have to test again the brakes at higher speed otherwise they look good for the price.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
Oh really, I actually forgot to mention the brakes in the review, I thought they were great. I had a couple moments where I needed to break suddenly and I was really impressed! Maybe my T100 brakes just suck? haha
@edouardl2Ай бұрын
@@wesleyjames. Are you sure you are not a bit bias ? By the way, specs on T100 doesn't look impressive about the brakes. They don't seem bad but definitely not top in her class specially in view of the heavy weight.
@wesleyjames.Ай бұрын
@@edouardl2 I’ve come from a string of Royal Enfields with bad breaks (my Continental GT was appalling) so my expectations are pretty low. I was happy with the 400s brakes 😎
@edouardl2Ай бұрын
@@wesleyjames. Let me make a clarification, I said i would need another drive to test the brakes at higher speed. It felt weak for me but my last bike was a Versys which has good brakes. You know too that these two bikes are Indians made by Bajaj which is a bit worrying. Time will tell about reliability.
@MrKajakhajАй бұрын
The front brake is softer on the 400x than the 400, and I found it a little weak to begin with, but after a few 100s km it got sharper and I now happily use only one finger for braking at times. Maybe I just got used to it ... The reviev is spot om BTW, it´s all about having fun when riding these bikes - with style. 2500 km done :-)
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I think what they’re trying to do is, they are giving all the body type options for their 3 displacements: 350, 450, 650. You just have to pick one engine according to your taste and one body type according to your comfort. Hope this helps the audience to make decisions while buying. 👍🏻
yes they have loads of cash from their 350 lineup sales and now they are in experimenting stage where with each engine they have 4-5 launches planned so you see guerilla450,bear650, bullet 650, classic 650, Goan 350 are all lined up for next year
Got to say i get a bit lost trying to sort out the difference between all these models. BSA on the other hand have just one bike and have had now for a few years, where are the twins they were famous for they seem, unlike RE to be missing a trick or two.
Don't buy them then.
is royal enfield famous in your couuntry ????
@@vasuki2908 Very
If you don't like something don't buy it you self obsessed man child.
Exactly what is your problem with choice. RE want as much of the market as possible, they're not in the business of pleasing you. Get over yourself 😅
@@davespruce4362 Each to their own. Sorry if I offended you, but let me reiterate 2 points. The first is that I don’t think the design looks akin to other bikes in their lineup. Therefore, I’m asking the audience whether you like it or not. I don’t. Secondly, I feel RE are releasing too many bikes, less is more.
Good for customers to have plenty of options. RE have only 10 models. Let them create as much new bikes as they want. It's a good thing.
I think the 411 models will be discontinued soon, there is no real reason now for the scram and regular himalayan with the new models
Definitely, the Scram's days are numbered...
Wish they brought the bullet 500 back.
There's plenty of good condition second hand Bullet 500's selling for cheap out there ;)
They may do away with air cooled motorcycles soon.. so 450 platform is the future for many other reasons too.. sweat spot between 350 (providing actual sales volumes) and 650 (which is already saturated and sales have come down).. also 450 will possibly help to meet Euro 7 (BS 7 norms)
That's a good point. In hindsight, a Classic 450 might not be a bad thing going forward.
Very excited and happy to see R.E doing this, after they did few bikes for 30+ years. With design houses in INDIA + EUROPE (U.K) working on this new concept, and providing LOW COST & GOOD BIKES for the whole world. It is very imminent to do this for R. E from competition point of view. They were late to start, but they have got goin6 now. People can choose from a wider range of bikes. Great work.
Thanks for your comment. I'm happy they're expanding the range, don't get me wrong. But I feel they're releasing too many at the moment. I like the idea of 1 bike (maybe 2) a year. I'd be keen to see new colourways for the Classic 350 for instance instead of constant new bikes...
@@wesleyjames. Wow great and just expectation, maybe R.E guys have to hear you or rather think for future plans with your good thoughts.
Good point, it does feel like chucking stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks... I bought a meteor 350 but did have issues with getting warranty parts, only the oil temp sensor and the speedo, but I had to wait for many many months for the sensor fix and am still waiting for the speedo fix. I bought early in 2022. It made me worry that if something more serious happened then it would take forever to fix under warranty. I'd prefer if they'd get that right first before new models. Also I'd like to see the GT/Interceptor updated to super meteor and shotgun spec rather than keep releasing new and ignoring these.
I agree, I feel a lot of their existing range (that work really well in the market still) have been neglected, and could use better refinement. Love the analogy of chucking stuff at the wall haha!
They feel in love with 💰🤩💰.
You're not wrong there!
RE makesthe most of their engines & models & definitely to many models.Shouldn't of bothered with Scram,Hunter & just done Supermeteor,Bullet,Shotgun.
Totally agreed... I think the Shotgun was rushed too imo
@@wesleyjames. I hope the next 650 bike is more Interceptor weight & not Shotgun weight especially if there's a Classic.
I understand the point that your making, let them go if they make mistakes let them
Hi memory serves that Harley-davidson often release several new models on a yearly basis, the difference is no one buys them. Royal Enfield is scaring the crap out of the competition.
@@davidcoleman4941 very true, I don’t really pay attention to anything happening in Harley land. They need some serious overhaul in their marketing and the way they are presented to new riders
A lot of people are waiting for the Classic 650, to create a long-legged version of the very popular Classic 350. However, it's hard to see a twin cylinder motor having the same charm, especially one that has come to be identified with other models, even if the trappings are classically inspired. Royal Enfield have also adopted strange styling cues. For example the Shotgun seems like a good bike ruined by bizarre paint schemes and an afterthought exhaust. The Scram 411 arrived on the back of Himalayan popularity, and briefly shone before being deleted, and the Super Meteor has been let down by harsh suspension and a compromised power unit (at least for a serious cruiser). None of them are bad bikes, but if you're going to have a styling exercise on otherwise very similar motorcycles, the details have to be spot on and currently they miss the target.
@@borderlands6606 I agree with everything you said, in fact I think you summed it up better than I did! I think the Shotgun would have been much better suited in classic styling like the Triumph Bobber, instead of the (somewhat dated) graphics it came wrapped in. I guess that leaves plenty room for customisation, but you may as well be shelling out for a Triumph.
Bro whatever you said was all pros not cons because same engine and same components means lower cost and parts availability for a long time. And releasing 4 bikes a year means you are getting more options and not everyone likes classic bikes youngsters need more modern retro of the orginal classic so they make classic as well as modern at an affordable price.
@@enchantingstayskodai You have a good point there buddy!
We need a 850 cc twin !
800cc Interceptor as they had the Prototype Interceptor 800cc Mk2b in 1970 & be nice to do that model updated as a new model.
I have been hoping for a RE single powerful enough for N American roads, in fact for the 442 in road trim
Do you like the Guerillas overall design? Or would you prefer the 442 in a modern classic?
When they are launching new classic 350 chrome colour ?
Your favorite colour in class 350?
@@Kalakaar9691that would be cool to see a new 350 colour range. Especially a new Chrome with blue for example. I think my favourite 350 is the black and chrome bullet
Too many bikes 😅 They don't have enough. They don't even have a 1000cc bike. So you don't want them to release more bikes 😅
Thanks for your comment, I have no issue with the amount of bikes they have released to date, just the frequency at which they're doing so ;)
The more models the better! RE is just making up for lost time due to RE india having basically ONE model from the '50s to 2016, not counting the Lightning or T-Bird which are still Bullets. I think it's exciting and I'm counting the days until the Guerrilla is unveiled
You're definitely right in the fact they're making up for lost time! I'm happy with the amount of models, just unsure about the rate at which they're currently releasing them. Buyers and dealerships are struggling to keep up!
@@wesleyjames. Yes I already have a Meteor but if I was buying a RE for the first time it would drive me crazy trying to wait to choose
Indians have traditionally been, and are still largely commuting-only riders, do you feel this is RE's attempt to introduce different styles of riding to the subcontinent? With riders like CS Santosh, and the recent Rally 2 winner Harith both showing how accessible MX and adventure riding can be, I feel as though RE is just setting their base for bigger and more powerful models in the future. Totally agree about Release Fatigue 😅
I really like what they've done (and I think everyone agrees) with the new Himmy 450, they're breaking new ground for the Indian and global market. I'm just not vibing the neo retro aesthetic of the Guerilla, and think they need to slow down on release frequency... Hope you're well bro!
Nice video, I don't really think the Guerilla 450 is for me either, I think R.E should stickwith their modern classic output
Agreed, time will tell which direction the brand follows
It’s a choice if you don’t like the Himalayan
Some good points Wesley. I agree it would be great to see a well engineered big single 500 or 600 that could achieve higher road speeds. Is a new classic 650 a classic 650 when it's a twin ? I don't believe so. The thing that put me off another enfield was the service intervals. For a country where you can do over 10000k a year, enfield should be focusing on longer engine service with reliability rather than new bikes that need 5000 k services . 👍
Thanks for the comment Ian, yes I think the true "Classic" of the line up is the 350 & 500. For me the service intervals would rack up quickly when I lived back in Auckland, as I would commute 50+ Km a day. I believe they may have increased them this year, I need to double check :)
I did 9800km in 15months on my Interceptor & agree about needing longer service intervals.Also agree that RE gave released to many models.The Scram,Hunter should of not been released as the Supermeteor was needed as a forward control model & Shotgun for mid controls & Bullet 350 was a good idea too.They've saturated their stable & Scram,Hunter should of been put on the back burner or India only bikes.I loved my Interceptor & was out on it all the time & done alot of miles on it & took it on well used gravel roads which it handled well not so much deep loose stuff but rather save more & getter a better bike with higher service intervals.On Trident 🔱 now & did 5500kms in a year.2 bikes be good to keep kms down but Rego costs are ridiculous here in NZ 🇳🇿 $525 & National Party putting it up another $50🤯🤬 puts you off owning multiple bikes.You can go the put one on hold route over winter to save cash & months on Rego but you still got Insurance costs which are expensive here too.Even a 50cc Scooter 🛵 cost $400 a year🤯🤬. They'd be better off charging $200 per vehicle & they'd make more money rather than $525 for bike over 601cc & $125 for a car & over 1 million cars here,feels like persecution.BSA is in NZ 🇳🇿 now & has high service intervals & is a big single & low cost bike.Ducati just released the 659 & 698 big single & the most powerful single in the modern era but not a modern classic.
@@ruahinesrider I like your idea of the Scram & Hunter being released in India only, I really think they felt rushed and will be discontinued in the near future. Yes, bike registration and insurance is going through the roof. Making the appeal for a 450cc (Himalayan or CF Moto) very appealing. My insurance payments for my T100 were burning a hole in my pocket every fortnight!
@@wesleyjames. Bike Rego is Ridiculous in NZ 🇳🇿.About 8-9yrs ago they put Bike Rego up to $803 a year🤯🤬& there was a big public outcry & protest ride to the beehive. People doing burnouts on steps outside Beehive & people staying in tents ⛺.Put on by NZ 🇳🇿 Bike Rider magazine.After a day or 2 the Minister of Transport walked out to abuse & reduced price to $525 per bike 🤯🤬 still way to much.They justified increases because it takes longer to heal in health system which is free & paid by ACC.The problem with that theory is in NZ 🇳🇿 85% of bike accidents are caused by cars,trucks etc so in my opinion the cost should be spread across all vehicles like $200 each & they'd make more money & be cheaper for people who own a bike & a car😉.I wouldn't mind spending $200 on car Rego it use to be $212 anyway years ago & they reduced it for cars but bikes went up😲🤯 & pay $200 for bike instead of $725 a year it should be $400 a year & way more cars on road & they'd still make more money.
@@wesleyjames. The way I see it if you have to pay $400 for a 50cc Scooter 🛵 & you want a 601cc bike may as well just pay $525 for bike over $601cc.Bikes under 500cc should only be $200-$250max a year & bikes between 50cc-250cc should only be $100. 500cc-900cc $250-$350 & 900cc up $300-$400max. A 50cc-125cc Scooter 🛵 & bikes should really only be about $50max a year & use to be cheap to encourage more people to commute to work cause they're cheap to run & should be cheap to Rego & less pollution as well.
They can't really release any engine, other than single and twins due to regulations. There is a market for straight four carbureted, bare bones neo retro bikes with the late 90s style, sadly this is never going to happen, even tho bikes like the Bandit and Hornet are still hugely popular second hand. It's a sad state of affairs, we have 3 ton SUVs with special emissions loopholes, but we can't have motorcycles that barely register in the grand scale of pollution.
Amen brother!
Agreed, but luckily us garage tinkers have found ways to get around the engine restrictions! ;)
As long as they can keep the quality up I say release as many styles as they can to appeal to as many rides as possible. More and more people are wanting smaller displacement bikes. They also aren't very popular in the States just yet. I'd love to see more of them on the road. They definitely bring a different style to the market that none of the "big" manufactures are doing.
I'm surprised they haven't taken off in the states as much as the rest of the world yet. They're incredibly popular here in N.Z. But yes I agree, their quality keeps getting better and better, and great value for money too
That being said, I am dying to see a 500 platform revival, everything in the market seems to be screaming an opportunity in the faces of RE, and they would be stupid to not capitalise on a market they defined. This could even be used as a platform to revive the retro Himalayan as a Himalayan 500, to give the old Himi boys something to cheer about, while still being a meaningful upgrade.
Someone needs to get you a job at R.E, some great ideas!
I think the entire point of the 450 line is to be Enfield's gateway into appealing to modern tastes with more modern machinery, while not touching the 350 and 650 lines, allowing them to keep hands on both sides of the niches. Unlike triumph which made the decision to completely go full premium, and change their 900 and 1200 bonneville series into liquid cooled modern machines, which consequently skyrocketed their prices, and made them lose that retro, air-cooled charm, Enfield chose to keep the 650s as faithful in feel as possible to the original. That being said, they know that they need to appeal to modern markets the same way triumph's modern motorcycles do, if they are to continue expanding as they desire. The 450 platform should serve as exactly that base, for more modern machinery, having their own niches for their target audience, without having to sacrifice the essence of the 350s and 650s charm. Imagine what a shock for the industry it would be, if Enfield suddenly announce that all their motorcycles would henceforth be liquid-cooled and dual overhead cam modern engines, just like triumph did back in the day. I think the decision to create a 450 lineup is perhaps the best decision enfield could have made for both modern and retro-aligned motorcyclists. But again, that's just my take :)
I think that might be the best comment I've received on this channel, well written and informative. Love it! I think I'm against the design of the Guerilla, it's not my style, and doesn't feel like a R.E per se.
RE have competing priorities. Emission regs mean we're unlikely to see a large capacity air-cooled single, which is why BSA and Royal Enfield are opting for liquid-cooled units. This fulfils the aspirations of the large non-Western youth market, who want a modern bike at a good price. The anglophone territory otoh, want a 1960s or 70s motorcycle with CNC engineering standards and electric start. I'm no expert, but air head engines running fast and hot are going to put out more hydrocarbons, so RE have to choke them or cool them. It's possible they could market an air-cooled V-twin or a bigger parallel twin, although I reckon the 650 might be as large as current standards allow. In a global content the money is in modern bikes, and we may have to settle for whatever retro variants are on offer.
Enjoyed the video. I have an Interceptor with S&S 865 kit, done over 10K, it has more power and torque than the T100 and I have money left over to customise. Here in Oz we have 10K service intervals. Thanks!
What an amazing quality vid , cheers mate!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice review! Pretty fair I would say having done 43000km on the Interceptor touring all over Europe and having a go on a friends Bonneville.. I agree, in twenty years time I'd probably like to see the Triumph in my garage BUT the Interceptor is hugely capable with a few mods.. suspension, gearing, better chain.. I don't find the front brake bad at all but it's common to criticize the back. It is not in my opinion a learner bike ( no bike above 400cc is) and it's a bike that many owners won't part with irrespective of the price. The Triumph was really good but I remember saying to myself at the time..'this is good, very good... but not good enough to warrant changing'
@@clausentumsoton i love hearing stories of riders with loads of mileage on their RE’s. You should do a 50k km review when you hit that milestone. I think my argument was more leaning towards owning a second hand Triumph. I’m currently on the lookout for a new bike and have been eyeing up the Classic 350. I’ve been in love since I first rode one of the J series editions a couple years back.
Thanks for doing this I was on the fence of getting one new or finding one used. This video has helped me a lot cheers from the US
@@ahmadjavedaj you’re welcome, let me know when you get your Triumph
Will go for royal enfield gt650
I love the GT!
Nice, thanks for this Wesley. Great to hear insights from someone of the same height for a change! Particularly interested that you found the Speed 400 to be better than the Scrambler 400X despite the size difference. Interesting stuff.
Thanks Mark, for me it was all about the handling of the Speed. If I wanted something with a bit more versatility it would be the Scrambler no doubt. I just found the Speed so easy to ride
Hey brother please respond to me asap I am in Auckland buying a continental GT 650 picking it up on saturday hopefully. The MR Clean version looks awesome with the SNS. I just want to ask you did you have insurance for your bike that was stolen and if so which insurance company? what happened did they pay market value for the bike? im confused as to what insurance company I should get. Thanks brother! Sorry to hear that it was stolen though
No worries, use Swann insurance. Highly recommend! Good luck
Nice review, clear, crisp and to the point. How is the vibration between the bikes, at what speed vibration kicks in both the bikes?
Hi Wesley another absolutely super video thanks so much for filming this I’ve been looking at a bike to replace the Tenere 700 I got for my dad as motivation to get through his stage 3b/4 prostate cancer (currently just recovering from an operation in hospital) an it’s the Triumph 400s caught our eye. Currently on the modern front I own an 1150gsa which I’m parting with so we can sell our house and downsize to the coast over here in the uk. In the past I’ve had an 865 which we both rode, 300 rally, 390adv x2 one mine. A one dads 411 Himmy an a slew of 1200’s vstroms a super bikes an a ex iom tt race bike. I think it’s awesome to see some lightweight bikes coming onto the market for experienced riders to a the Triumph addresses a lot of the complaints I had with the other bikes. Itl be interesting to see if we end up going for the street scrambler, t100 or one of the 400s in the end it’s great to see some more manageable bikes coming out, if you don’t mind me asking what’s your inseam? A keep up the brilliant work really is an excellent channel and it’s great to see Triumph taking notice.
Thanks for the kind words, and insight into your motorcycle journey! I’ll have to get back to you on the inseam. Let me know what bike you end up settling on 👍🏼 Cheers, Wes
@@wesleyjames. thanks Wes will do :)
How does this dude have less than 1k subs? Great work!
Thanks mate, you’re too kind!
Absolutely brilliant video, so hard to find people reviewing motorcycles now on KZread that actually own them as they get buried just subscribed absolutely brilliant video and thanks for sharing from across the pond in the UK.
Thanks for the positive feedback! Inspires me to keep going at it :D
Which bike would you recommend going for between the scrambler 400x and the interceptor 650?
Nicely done 🤘🤘
Cheers Deane!
Price segment is different. So, RE don't have to worry.
They're pretty close here in N.Z, I think in India there might be a more significant gap
@@wesleyjames. In India the scram is a lot less expensive than the Himalayan 450. Also coming from a Himalayan 411, tubeless tyres are great. If you include all of that there is no other bike with similar value for money. And I am loving the performance and refined quality over my 411
@@nr0101 Nice, I'm looking forward to riding the 450 Himmy eventually
I've downgraded from a liter bike with 150 hp to the Scrambler 400X and I'm having a blast. It's so nimble and the engine just pulls like a champ. Definitely not just a bike for beginners.
I agree, glad to hear you're enjoying your new Scram :D
I had a 250 cc before my scram400x, and i was having the greatest of time with it, awesome acceleration, nimble and a joy on the trails, then came it's 600 miles service and wow what a different bike it became a little beast!! Getting to the 9000 rpms brings me a smile every time!!
Even if it's fairly expensive here in Brazil, I'm seriously considering the Speed 400 as a first bike over the 30% cheaper Hunter 350. Lighter weight should make it easier to handle, an engine that will keep up on the highway just fine (I'm heavy, and my city is bizarrely bisected by a major highway), liquid-cooled to handle the constant heat, and most important for me, it's a bike that features a full range of safety features- ABS on both wheels *and* traction control. LED headlight, assisted slipper clutch, inverted fork and an adjustable rear monoshock are a delicious package, too. Of course, the fact that it looks gorgeous, both stylish and elegant, also goes a long way. Just waiting for a demo model to test drive. Duke 390 offers a similarly feature-packed package, but I don't have a dearlership in town... And it doesn't look anywhere as good.
I would 100% buy the Speed 400 over the Hunter 350!
I'm not in Brazil but those were my two choices, I'm glad I waited 7 months for the Speed! 🤙🤙
Thanks for the great review. If you don't mind me asking, How tall are you? , I'm hearing more and more riders who, like you, point to the speed 400 as the one to go for because of the handling, but Im quite tall ( 1 meter 90) so I always discarded it as an option. Hence my interest.
Thanks for watching, I'm 6"2 (188cm) without boots. I actually found the Speed to be a more pleasant bike to ride, even though I was tall. I'd recommend taking them for a test ride, then let me know what you think!
Buddy can do a review on shotgun 650 .. we need some real opinion.. most people just say the positives
I would love to ride one, they seem to have a really comfortable ergonomic. I plan on messaging R.E and seeing if they lend me one for a couple weeks
I did try both bikes and for both of them i found the brakes to be a bit weak. In terms of driving, I was more happy with the scrambler even with my short inseam as It just felt more nimble. I am surprised too that you didn't speak about Versys x which has exactly same power and is very strong both on road and on light trails. Before to purchase any of these two bikes, i would have to test again the brakes at higher speed otherwise they look good for the price.
Oh really, I actually forgot to mention the brakes in the review, I thought they were great. I had a couple moments where I needed to break suddenly and I was really impressed! Maybe my T100 brakes just suck? haha
@@wesleyjames. Are you sure you are not a bit bias ? By the way, specs on T100 doesn't look impressive about the brakes. They don't seem bad but definitely not top in her class specially in view of the heavy weight.
@@edouardl2 I’ve come from a string of Royal Enfields with bad breaks (my Continental GT was appalling) so my expectations are pretty low. I was happy with the 400s brakes 😎
@@wesleyjames. Let me make a clarification, I said i would need another drive to test the brakes at higher speed. It felt weak for me but my last bike was a Versys which has good brakes. You know too that these two bikes are Indians made by Bajaj which is a bit worrying. Time will tell about reliability.
The front brake is softer on the 400x than the 400, and I found it a little weak to begin with, but after a few 100s km it got sharper and I now happily use only one finger for braking at times. Maybe I just got used to it ... The reviev is spot om BTW, it´s all about having fun when riding these bikes - with style. 2500 km done :-)