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I like my pump, but beware of the Duotone adapter that comes with it. I drive 2 hours each way to Jones Beach only to discover that the little 25 cent blue o-ring had fallen out somewhere which prevented full pressure. Always carry an old school hand pump backup
@KitePaddleSurf14 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences on the Duotone adapter. It never a bad idea to keep a pump in the vehicle for those unexpected hiccups. Thanks for sharing and watching.
@DS-go8mn2 күн бұрын
Can't really tell from the video.Does it cover the lower ribs? I have a similar one, a Mystic, but it exposes part of my lower ribs.
@bentonkareem2 күн бұрын
I learned on back harnesses in rough deeper water conditions. When I bought my initial setup I got the Mystic Marshall seat harness because it was on sale for $120. Been using it for about a year. I don't know if using a seat harness is helping or hurting progression. I'm gonna get a back harness and see. Thanks for the video!
@KitePaddleSurf2 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences with using a seat harness. For learning it definitely can be easier using a seat harness. As you progress My recommendation would be to go to a waist harness. I would stick with mystic harnesses they are definitely our favorite at kitepaddlesurf. Thanks again for watching our video!
@NrangeGoDie7 күн бұрын
Im Like 80kg and 183cm. Already Snowboard/Ski on a high lvl and sporty. So I’m a fast learner I guess 😅 So don’t want a full beginner thing since I want to keep it long and still can progress. I’m a student so budget isn’t that high. Would love some recommendations 🫶🏽
@KitePaddleSurf6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching our review of beginner surfboards. At your weight and savvy board skills I would recommend you start on a 8'6" Torq Longboard. Hit the link below to see it. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/torq-tet-longboard-white-pinline-surfboard?_pos=3&_sid=90540203a&_ss=r&variant=45401223627004 The first couple days could be a little challenging because it only has 67L. However, in the long run of your surfing progression this would be a board that you could potentially have forever. The reason I say that is because even if you progress more and want a smaller board it's always good to have a longboard for those really small days in the ocean. I weigh 66kgs and mostly surf 5'4"-5'10" boards but yesterday I surfed a 9' board in small gutless surf and it was super fun. Hope this helps you out and we are pretty well stocked on these Longboards if your interested in getting one. Thanks again for watching out video.
@nods208 күн бұрын
I’ve been riding the Mod Fosh for 1 year and I can say it is the perfect first hard top surf board for a beginner. The rocker helps with steeper drops and the construction is really robust. I haven’t had any dings so far. What would you recommend as next board to get after getting the first turns on this one?
@KitePaddleSurf7 күн бұрын
It depends on what you're looking for in your next board. Do you want your next board to perform better in small waves or bigger waves? How important is durability to you in your next board? do you want it to be as durable as your torq? Do you want to stick with a fish outline or would you like to try a board with more of a rounded tail such as a pin or squash tail? Probably another question to consider is budget, how much do you want to spend on new board? Torq boards tend to be very easy on the wallet while other boards can cost more. Look forward to hearing back from you.
@KiteVanMan13 күн бұрын
I have heard that the stealth is rough on your skin if riding without a wetsuit, or is that only the older version. It's this reason that is pushing me towards the Majestic X
@KitePaddleSurf12 күн бұрын
Great ?, I use this harness without a wetsuit and it can cause the skin to get irritated if I use the harness a couple days in a row. The materials on the Majestic X are softer and will provide more of a plush feeling when using it without a wetsuit. Hope this helps out, thanks for watching the review, have a wonderful day.
@Jochumvideos13 күн бұрын
Looks very cool and simple
@sauce72916 күн бұрын
It's easier to hold power down with a seat harness. Just look at kitefoil racers. What are they wearing? Seat harness.
@KitePaddleSurf15 күн бұрын
True seat harnesses do help with holding more power down. Thanks for the info, and watching our breakdown of seat harnesses.
@suppaduppa516 күн бұрын
Been riding the cali twin for years now. Debating on pulling the trigger on this guy, especially with the construction for when I travel back home to Maui. How much different does this ride vs the swallow tail? Especially with the construction.
@KitePaddleSurf16 күн бұрын
Haven't spent a ton of time on swallow tails but I would imagine that you would get more traction and drive from this pin version which would hold up better in bigger stuff. The swallow tail would have more planing speed and probably out preform this one in smaller surf. Lib boards are a bit on the heavier side but they are super durable which make them so popular as travel boards or just everyday surfing here in the NW. Free shipping promo going on right now so a good time to buy!
@kippywylie16 күн бұрын
I just ordered a 72lt Omen Flux which has a bit of a narrow downwind shape. I weigh 70kg/150lb and although my long history with windsurfing & kitefoiling has made this first season of winging easy.... I still struggle with light wind water starts. I've been learning on the older Armstrong 99L board, now jibing both directions, beginning to footswitch, riding toeside. Riding the MA1225/235. Did I make a purchase mistake with the Omen purchase (it's in shipment) ?
@KitePaddleSurf16 күн бұрын
Those Omen boards look pretty sweet and I certainly don't have anything negative to say about them. 72L may be too small if you are looking for a dedicated light wind board but there is only one way to find out! Let us know hoe it goes. - Ethan at KPS
@bobkowalski415317 күн бұрын
thanks for your review. I am 196 lbs - does the 85l tick all the boxes in light wind conditions (10-18knots mostly) and wave winging? I'm currently on a 5.5, 94l board. I do not want to go for the 100l as it simply gets too long and too close to my DW board.
@KitePaddleSurf17 күн бұрын
I would say yes! The 85L board is an excellent light wind option for someone around 200lbs. I have found the 75L to be a great light wind board for myself (165lbs) so I think sizing up one would be a great choice - Ethan at KPS
@garwier21 күн бұрын
Sticker on the deck of the mod fun says 41.8L, yet it says 46L on the bottom of the board?
@KitePaddleSurf17 күн бұрын
Sorry for the delayed response we've been out surfing and wingfoiling, the last couple of days. You are very sharp at catching the details, the tag on the board and on the website read 41.8L however the board's dims are different. A little wider and thicker which does read 46L. The only thing I can think of is that these boards are being built with different dims and the website and tags are not reflecting that. If you're interested in one of these boards reach out to us and we can verify the dims and volume. In the meantime, I am going to reach out to our Torq rep and see what is going on with this discrepancy between dimensions on the website and actual board dims. Thanks again for noticing and watching the video.
@217552022 күн бұрын
Hi! Great review and comparison! I have a question. I broke two wing sup 50 litre boards while freestyling. First, the side of the board under the major front foot cracked. But it was easy to repair putting a nice and strong carbon patch. After a while the foil box crashed. Disassembling the foil box we found out that the foil box was not tied to the back foot inserts and the white foam in-between was smashed and soft…. The carbon stringer reinforcements did not help. They just were not directly glued to the box. The second board repeated the same path. First the side of the board under the front foot cracked. It was fixed the same way as the first board. And then the board started to suck water under the back foot strap inserts. It seems like the inserts were pulled up and caused the delamination that opened the way for the water inside. I just want to ask about the construction of the new board. Has there been any changes in the board construction inside, such as thicker and more appropriately glued stringers and a tougher foilbox? The boards are really nice but extreme jumping and freestyle kill them all (
@leeleeyeah498724 күн бұрын
I'm 155lbs and I want to pump and surf behind my jet ski's small wakes. Which one is a better fit for me between quantum 100 and quantum 85?
@KitePaddleSurf24 күн бұрын
The 100 would be a better bet to try and make the most of a tiny wave
@alchemycannaco301728 күн бұрын
Need a comparison with the new mid length downwind board and also the V3 Appletree see them all side by side
@KitePaddleSurf28 күн бұрын
We don't carry the Appletree boards in our store so I don't think that will happen. We do however have a second video coming out on Armstrong Midlength hopefully the end of next week, stay tuned. Thanks for watching our videos, have a fantastic day.
@sergemann5951Ай бұрын
You always been my favorite guy to get help. Good to see you doing great as usual Dave! Love from Vancouver.
@KitePaddleSurf29 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and the support for our store.
@prender1210Ай бұрын
Great video thanks for the difference between the two! I have the mod fun board in 7’4 but have been thinking of getting the mod fish at around 6’6 length to improve that bit more. Do you think I would notice a big difference between those two sizes ? Thanks
@dakcnАй бұрын
Thank you! Really a good informative review.
@aswinsanju2603Ай бұрын
Where to find the cheapest board? Is Facebook Marketplace good?
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
yea, sometimes you can score a good deal if there is large pool of surfers in your area that would be willing to sell a used beginner board. We recommend catch surf Log's which we have in in stock at a reasonable price. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/catch-surf-2024-blank-series-log-surfboard?_pos=1&_sid=d3e3fa3da&_ss=r Thanks for watching
@mixiesix67Ай бұрын
No one NEEDS a Mid-Length ya kook!
@Machobuck1317Ай бұрын
What size for an adult 5 6” 140 pounds
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
If you are a total beginner, then I would recommend getting out on either a 7' or 8' Log. My recommendation would be 8' if the waves are small and not a lot of power. If you're going out in bigger surf and catching green waves, then I would go 7'. Thanks for watching our video, any more ?'s just ask.
@Machobuck1317Ай бұрын
@@KitePaddleSurfok thanks n the blank series 7ft is the same as the log?? Just different fins?
@mixandmatch6546Ай бұрын
Hi! I'm thinking about taking up surfing as a hobby. I wasn't looking to make it a huge deal and advance much, just to do it for the fun of it. The first beginner you discussed in the video applies to me directly. I have a few questions: do you need to wax a soft top board? do you need a leash for a soft top board? And where should I buy one( that's affordable?)
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
Hi, Yes you do have to wax a soft top surfboard before you head out to surf. Yes, you do need to wear a leash to keep the board close to you so no one else gets hurt by your board. For safety reason's it's just good to have a board attached to you so you can always paddle in without losing it. We have a fresh shipment of these boards in stock and our prices are really good on them, check out the link down below. Thanks for watching, stoked to hear you want to get into surfing. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/catch-surf-2024-odysea-log-surfboard?_pos=2&_sid=ac804855d&_ss=r&variant=45949417914620
@hansvandertoorn6930Ай бұрын
That spreaderbar still have the fork hatch wich is a pain in the a.... to get loose when it is cold. You break your fingers on it when you want to open it. I had to loosen up the straps and then click open the latch with the old model. It looks like that fork-hatch is stil the same.
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
Sometimes in the cold I have had to do the same thing and loosen up the straps, so I totally get your frustration especially when you want the harness to fit snug. We also carry Ride Engine harnesses and comparing to that spreader bar, I prefer the Mystic all the way. The Ride Engine Unity Bar is all most impossible to work with while wearing gloves. Thanks for input on the review and watching, have a great day.
@hansvandertoorn6930Ай бұрын
@@KitePaddleSurf Funny......i had the spreaderbar on my old ride-engine. Now i kite with a complete ride-engine harness. It fits me the best. Everybody does have his own preference.....i guess. A lot of people i know are very happy with Mistic.👍
@surfbum8166Ай бұрын
Click bar is waaaay better
@HADDEN67Ай бұрын
Better to use an easy planing race board. Downwind boards feel horrible.
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
What kind of planing race board do you mean?
@Salty_OceanАй бұрын
Ay! Im looking at buying this board off of you guys right now! I have a 6,2 and an 8,6 I want something for the medium sized days (4-5ft). Do you think this would be a fun mid length im looking to get it in 7,2, hows the down the line speed?
@customerservice8999Ай бұрын
It is a great board and is moderately fast. It is an intermediate level board so it still has some rocker for an easier take off.
@tbaart4428Ай бұрын
Just got this board in 9’. So glad I found this video cuz there aren’t any reviews of it online. I’ve only surfed foamies and mids in the 7’2 to 7’10 range. I decided I wanna struggle less and catch a lot more waves. That bit about the knifed nose helps a lot because where I live has a lot of those small but very steep waves that crash fast (SoCal).
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful. The board glides forever and catches the smallest of bumps, just need to keep that nose in check. Thanks for watching and have a terrific day.
@greg.ocallaghanАй бұрын
For the equivalent size (so two sizes down, like 580=725, 780=925), which will have the highest top end? I keep hearing that the old HA's have better speed range, but given that you're supposed to size down quite a bit, aren't the two size smaller foils faster than their equivalent?
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
We haven't done any back-to-back measured speed testing, but having ridden the 780 and 925 extensively I'd say the top ends are similar on those two foils. We'll try and get some data and get back to you, but from a wave-riding perspective the new foils are the clear winner! Thanks for watching
@greg.ocallaghanАй бұрын
@@KitePaddleSurf in what way are they better for wave riding? turning bc you have a smaller span for the equivalent size? (two down) or increased pitch stability?
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
@@greg.ocallaghan Both, as well as much lower stall speed, easy breach recovery and better pumping
@greg.ocallaghanАй бұрын
@@KitePaddleSurf sounds like I need to demo! I know a lot of people are loving the new HA's because they found the old HA's too difficult to ride, but I put in a lot of time on those foils, especially the 725 (I'm 85kg's, so it's a small foil for me) and got really used to it. So I'm really curious about what the new HA's will give me, given that I did not find the old HA's difficult.
@KitePaddleSurfАй бұрын
@@greg.ocallaghan Yeah we really enjoyed the previous gen HA's as well, it's amazing how they continue to improve!
@Alfonso_1112 ай бұрын
Everyone else seems to be going narrower thinner and longer which seems to make a lot more sense.
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
Definitely a lot of boards like that coming out. We've been riding the Armstrong Midlength and will have a review out on that soon. There are pros and cons to every shape, just depends what you are looking for in a board!
@stokedforsuccess1002 ай бұрын
Sickest microphone EVER! 🙌 Yeah boys.
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
The Stab makes a perfect MIC, thanks for watching and leaving a message, have a great day.
@raghuram28152 ай бұрын
I loev your videos. Less fancier in production values compared to some others. But so spot on with the content. And such honesty... without spurting out the typical adversitising material from the brands.
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
Wow thanks for the feedback, we are definitely trying to be more casual with our reviews. Thanks for watching, have a terrific day!
@pjdava2 ай бұрын
KitePaddleSurf, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
Awesome glad to hear you liked it and subscribed. Thanks for watching!
@guybartlett95872 ай бұрын
Gracias
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@user-dl3bt6ej8y2 ай бұрын
Hey I’m 5’7 153 and I’ve been wanting to surf but I don’t want to spend past 250$ which should I try
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
For that price your best bet is to get a 8' wavestorm on amazon that comes with a leash for $250. Great beginner board for that price
@seththeskier2 ай бұрын
Have you ridden Lift HAX?
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
No we have not tried the Lift HAX. Have you been able to ride it?
@seththeskier2 ай бұрын
@@KitePaddleSurf Yes currently very stoked on the Lift 150HAX, but can't compare because I haven't been on these new Armstrong HA foils
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
@@seththeskierIf you ever get a chance on the HA Foil V2 let us know what you think, have a great day.
@mel_fromhell2 ай бұрын
Nice
@turbowtime96112 ай бұрын
I've had my Odysea Log for less than 2 months and it's already waterlogged. I 100% tightened the fin and leash before use so it's not that. Question: Why isn't it standard to gorilla glue or something, these plugs before use? I'm debating on getting this board and glue-sealing the fin boxes and leash plug before use. Thoughts?
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
Okay so that is a great ? on how to deal with a waterlogged Catch Surf Board. I can tell you first hand that these boards can get water logged. Gorilla Glue is great to use on these boards. Let the board dry for a few days. I assume you've checked the board over for gouges that may cause water to enter the board. If the board looks good then I would crank the fin boxes down really tight and apply some glue around the edges of the plugs. If your glueing the HDPE sheeting on the bottom of the board, make sure you sand it otherwise the glue will not adhere to it. Hope this helps a little with your situation. aaron
@dudleyuyehara2 ай бұрын
Whats a good size recommendation for a 120# person? riding a CF800 presently.
@KitePaddleSurf2 ай бұрын
The HA580 would probably be the most comparable in terms of lift and low end. A lot has changed in foil tech since the CF800 - you will be amazed!
@TheCapslayer2 ай бұрын
Great review! Do you think this would size up well? I’ve been surfing Grovelers around 37-38L and thinking of going with the 5’11 on this to stay around the same volume but get a little more performance with that pulled in tail. And still will be able to keep the wave count up. Thanks!
@clivebbossa16383 ай бұрын
What mast .....is the performance mast a must have for these HAs and also which fuse works best?
@customerservice89993 ай бұрын
Hello Clive. I think if you are over 165lbs or using wings wider than the HA880 you will benefit from the stiffer Performance Masts. The 60cm Fuse is the length we have been using for winging. - DJ
@fluiditynz3 ай бұрын
So if we are to believe the sales hype, Armstrong has fattened their chord at the cost of speed. Axis did this, moving from their ART series to their Spitfires. Many manufacturers are pulling back on ultimate speed to deliver more fun.
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
It's all about fun with speed, I agree with you brands are making the foiling experience better by making these foils more fun to ride. This new HA is much easier to use in comparison to the older model. Thanks for watching the review, have a great day.
@Stanton_High3 ай бұрын
Totally agree, I got a 780 and am considering getting something smaller, dont be afraid to size WAY down
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
Size down and you'll reap the benefits of more fun on the water!
@richardgelsebach65113 ай бұрын
Find the cheapest board you can find and paddle out
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
That's true cheap boards work as long as they float and have fins still attached to them. Regardless of the board it's all about having fun in the ocean.
@natural_lawАй бұрын
Cheap longboard and a cheap shortboard are 2 different beasts, so the longboard is the best option.
@yoursuperman96853 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm 75kg and 5'8 , I'm a beginner and i want to have fun and improve my surfing over time, so what would be the perfect size? Will 6'6 do?
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
I think a 6'6" board will be a little too small to learn on. I would recommend going no smaller than a 7'4" This will give you enough float to paddle into waves early and provide stability for your pop-up. This Torq Fun V+ surfboard is great to learn on, extra volume in a shorter length. Also at 22.5" wide it provides tons of stability for when your up and surfing the wave. These Torq boards for the price are incredible value, they are strong, light and incredibly durable. If you have any more ?'s let us know. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/torq-tet-mod-fun-v-vortex-pattern?_pos=3&_sid=6a2201faa&_ss=r
@whenitswindy70343 ай бұрын
nice video but please tell us more about correct sizing of downwind board. youve gone from 53litre daily driver to 85l downwind board. im 220lb normally on 90l board what would you recommend?
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
Definitely depends rider to rider and how confident you are on the 90L but I think that somewhere around 110L would be perfect. Armstrong V2 options would be the 106L or 116L
@kpj53 ай бұрын
Should I get this or the LTF?
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
If you have experience winging with a paddle board already then, I would definitely go for the I-Fly. If you are totally new to winging and looking to get some practice on a SUP board then I would go for the LTF. I have spent some time on the I-Fly and it works great for learning to wing if you are tight on space for traveling to and from the beach or storing at your home. What is your weight, that will help determine which Volume is best suited for you on the board?
@carlosdemosteyrin3143 ай бұрын
Hi, I have a question. If I buy the spreader bar surf and just the hook separately. Can I adjust the hook to the spreader bar surf? My intention is to swap them according to the conditions. Thank you!
@customerservice89993 ай бұрын
Yes you can swap out the Hook for the Surf Spreader bar. It takes about 45 seconds to swap them out.
@dpwild3283 ай бұрын
Thank you! No one is reviewing or comparing these two. My one complaint with seat harnesses is mobility - not being able to bend at the waists as easy. Any insights on that between these two?
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
The Mystic is going to allow more range of motion because of its lower profile. If you're wanting more range of motion, then definitely go that direction. Thank you for watching the video we appreciate it. Let us know if you have any more questions.
@jameshoben29503 ай бұрын
Love they're kites, hate the bar. The flag line not being in the plastic tube wore and broke within a year! $140.00 to fix, no thanks.
@KitePaddleSurf3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and leaving your experience with the bar. I have been using it 2-3 times a week for about 6 months and mine has not wore out at all. Sorry to here the bar didn't work out for you. Ozone kites are amazing I totally agree with you. Have a great day and thanks for leaving a comment.
@franpinyol85003 ай бұрын
so, which one is better ? honestly, this is a poor review
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I like my pump, but beware of the Duotone adapter that comes with it. I drive 2 hours each way to Jones Beach only to discover that the little 25 cent blue o-ring had fallen out somewhere which prevented full pressure. Always carry an old school hand pump backup
Thanks for sharing your experiences on the Duotone adapter. It never a bad idea to keep a pump in the vehicle for those unexpected hiccups. Thanks for sharing and watching.
Can't really tell from the video.Does it cover the lower ribs? I have a similar one, a Mystic, but it exposes part of my lower ribs.
I learned on back harnesses in rough deeper water conditions. When I bought my initial setup I got the Mystic Marshall seat harness because it was on sale for $120. Been using it for about a year. I don't know if using a seat harness is helping or hurting progression. I'm gonna get a back harness and see. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing your experiences with using a seat harness. For learning it definitely can be easier using a seat harness. As you progress My recommendation would be to go to a waist harness. I would stick with mystic harnesses they are definitely our favorite at kitepaddlesurf. Thanks again for watching our video!
Im Like 80kg and 183cm. Already Snowboard/Ski on a high lvl and sporty. So I’m a fast learner I guess 😅 So don’t want a full beginner thing since I want to keep it long and still can progress. I’m a student so budget isn’t that high. Would love some recommendations 🫶🏽
Thanks for watching our review of beginner surfboards. At your weight and savvy board skills I would recommend you start on a 8'6" Torq Longboard. Hit the link below to see it. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/torq-tet-longboard-white-pinline-surfboard?_pos=3&_sid=90540203a&_ss=r&variant=45401223627004 The first couple days could be a little challenging because it only has 67L. However, in the long run of your surfing progression this would be a board that you could potentially have forever. The reason I say that is because even if you progress more and want a smaller board it's always good to have a longboard for those really small days in the ocean. I weigh 66kgs and mostly surf 5'4"-5'10" boards but yesterday I surfed a 9' board in small gutless surf and it was super fun. Hope this helps you out and we are pretty well stocked on these Longboards if your interested in getting one. Thanks again for watching out video.
I’ve been riding the Mod Fosh for 1 year and I can say it is the perfect first hard top surf board for a beginner. The rocker helps with steeper drops and the construction is really robust. I haven’t had any dings so far. What would you recommend as next board to get after getting the first turns on this one?
It depends on what you're looking for in your next board. Do you want your next board to perform better in small waves or bigger waves? How important is durability to you in your next board? do you want it to be as durable as your torq? Do you want to stick with a fish outline or would you like to try a board with more of a rounded tail such as a pin or squash tail? Probably another question to consider is budget, how much do you want to spend on new board? Torq boards tend to be very easy on the wallet while other boards can cost more. Look forward to hearing back from you.
I have heard that the stealth is rough on your skin if riding without a wetsuit, or is that only the older version. It's this reason that is pushing me towards the Majestic X
Great ?, I use this harness without a wetsuit and it can cause the skin to get irritated if I use the harness a couple days in a row. The materials on the Majestic X are softer and will provide more of a plush feeling when using it without a wetsuit. Hope this helps out, thanks for watching the review, have a wonderful day.
Looks very cool and simple
It's easier to hold power down with a seat harness. Just look at kitefoil racers. What are they wearing? Seat harness.
True seat harnesses do help with holding more power down. Thanks for the info, and watching our breakdown of seat harnesses.
Been riding the cali twin for years now. Debating on pulling the trigger on this guy, especially with the construction for when I travel back home to Maui. How much different does this ride vs the swallow tail? Especially with the construction.
Haven't spent a ton of time on swallow tails but I would imagine that you would get more traction and drive from this pin version which would hold up better in bigger stuff. The swallow tail would have more planing speed and probably out preform this one in smaller surf. Lib boards are a bit on the heavier side but they are super durable which make them so popular as travel boards or just everyday surfing here in the NW. Free shipping promo going on right now so a good time to buy!
I just ordered a 72lt Omen Flux which has a bit of a narrow downwind shape. I weigh 70kg/150lb and although my long history with windsurfing & kitefoiling has made this first season of winging easy.... I still struggle with light wind water starts. I've been learning on the older Armstrong 99L board, now jibing both directions, beginning to footswitch, riding toeside. Riding the MA1225/235. Did I make a purchase mistake with the Omen purchase (it's in shipment) ?
Those Omen boards look pretty sweet and I certainly don't have anything negative to say about them. 72L may be too small if you are looking for a dedicated light wind board but there is only one way to find out! Let us know hoe it goes. - Ethan at KPS
thanks for your review. I am 196 lbs - does the 85l tick all the boxes in light wind conditions (10-18knots mostly) and wave winging? I'm currently on a 5.5, 94l board. I do not want to go for the 100l as it simply gets too long and too close to my DW board.
I would say yes! The 85L board is an excellent light wind option for someone around 200lbs. I have found the 75L to be a great light wind board for myself (165lbs) so I think sizing up one would be a great choice - Ethan at KPS
Sticker on the deck of the mod fun says 41.8L, yet it says 46L on the bottom of the board?
Sorry for the delayed response we've been out surfing and wingfoiling, the last couple of days. You are very sharp at catching the details, the tag on the board and on the website read 41.8L however the board's dims are different. A little wider and thicker which does read 46L. The only thing I can think of is that these boards are being built with different dims and the website and tags are not reflecting that. If you're interested in one of these boards reach out to us and we can verify the dims and volume. In the meantime, I am going to reach out to our Torq rep and see what is going on with this discrepancy between dimensions on the website and actual board dims. Thanks again for noticing and watching the video.
Hi! Great review and comparison! I have a question. I broke two wing sup 50 litre boards while freestyling. First, the side of the board under the major front foot cracked. But it was easy to repair putting a nice and strong carbon patch. After a while the foil box crashed. Disassembling the foil box we found out that the foil box was not tied to the back foot inserts and the white foam in-between was smashed and soft…. The carbon stringer reinforcements did not help. They just were not directly glued to the box. The second board repeated the same path. First the side of the board under the front foot cracked. It was fixed the same way as the first board. And then the board started to suck water under the back foot strap inserts. It seems like the inserts were pulled up and caused the delamination that opened the way for the water inside. I just want to ask about the construction of the new board. Has there been any changes in the board construction inside, such as thicker and more appropriately glued stringers and a tougher foilbox? The boards are really nice but extreme jumping and freestyle kill them all (
I'm 155lbs and I want to pump and surf behind my jet ski's small wakes. Which one is a better fit for me between quantum 100 and quantum 85?
The 100 would be a better bet to try and make the most of a tiny wave
Need a comparison with the new mid length downwind board and also the V3 Appletree see them all side by side
We don't carry the Appletree boards in our store so I don't think that will happen. We do however have a second video coming out on Armstrong Midlength hopefully the end of next week, stay tuned. Thanks for watching our videos, have a fantastic day.
You always been my favorite guy to get help. Good to see you doing great as usual Dave! Love from Vancouver.
Thanks for watching and the support for our store.
Great video thanks for the difference between the two! I have the mod fun board in 7’4 but have been thinking of getting the mod fish at around 6’6 length to improve that bit more. Do you think I would notice a big difference between those two sizes ? Thanks
Thank you! Really a good informative review.
Where to find the cheapest board? Is Facebook Marketplace good?
yea, sometimes you can score a good deal if there is large pool of surfers in your area that would be willing to sell a used beginner board. We recommend catch surf Log's which we have in in stock at a reasonable price. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/catch-surf-2024-blank-series-log-surfboard?_pos=1&_sid=d3e3fa3da&_ss=r Thanks for watching
No one NEEDS a Mid-Length ya kook!
What size for an adult 5 6” 140 pounds
If you are a total beginner, then I would recommend getting out on either a 7' or 8' Log. My recommendation would be 8' if the waves are small and not a lot of power. If you're going out in bigger surf and catching green waves, then I would go 7'. Thanks for watching our video, any more ?'s just ask.
@@KitePaddleSurfok thanks n the blank series 7ft is the same as the log?? Just different fins?
Hi! I'm thinking about taking up surfing as a hobby. I wasn't looking to make it a huge deal and advance much, just to do it for the fun of it. The first beginner you discussed in the video applies to me directly. I have a few questions: do you need to wax a soft top board? do you need a leash for a soft top board? And where should I buy one( that's affordable?)
Hi, Yes you do have to wax a soft top surfboard before you head out to surf. Yes, you do need to wear a leash to keep the board close to you so no one else gets hurt by your board. For safety reason's it's just good to have a board attached to you so you can always paddle in without losing it. We have a fresh shipment of these boards in stock and our prices are really good on them, check out the link down below. Thanks for watching, stoked to hear you want to get into surfing. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/catch-surf-2024-odysea-log-surfboard?_pos=2&_sid=ac804855d&_ss=r&variant=45949417914620
That spreaderbar still have the fork hatch wich is a pain in the a.... to get loose when it is cold. You break your fingers on it when you want to open it. I had to loosen up the straps and then click open the latch with the old model. It looks like that fork-hatch is stil the same.
Sometimes in the cold I have had to do the same thing and loosen up the straps, so I totally get your frustration especially when you want the harness to fit snug. We also carry Ride Engine harnesses and comparing to that spreader bar, I prefer the Mystic all the way. The Ride Engine Unity Bar is all most impossible to work with while wearing gloves. Thanks for input on the review and watching, have a great day.
@@KitePaddleSurf Funny......i had the spreaderbar on my old ride-engine. Now i kite with a complete ride-engine harness. It fits me the best. Everybody does have his own preference.....i guess. A lot of people i know are very happy with Mistic.👍
Click bar is waaaay better
Better to use an easy planing race board. Downwind boards feel horrible.
What kind of planing race board do you mean?
Ay! Im looking at buying this board off of you guys right now! I have a 6,2 and an 8,6 I want something for the medium sized days (4-5ft). Do you think this would be a fun mid length im looking to get it in 7,2, hows the down the line speed?
It is a great board and is moderately fast. It is an intermediate level board so it still has some rocker for an easier take off.
Just got this board in 9’. So glad I found this video cuz there aren’t any reviews of it online. I’ve only surfed foamies and mids in the 7’2 to 7’10 range. I decided I wanna struggle less and catch a lot more waves. That bit about the knifed nose helps a lot because where I live has a lot of those small but very steep waves that crash fast (SoCal).
Glad you found the video helpful. The board glides forever and catches the smallest of bumps, just need to keep that nose in check. Thanks for watching and have a terrific day.
For the equivalent size (so two sizes down, like 580=725, 780=925), which will have the highest top end? I keep hearing that the old HA's have better speed range, but given that you're supposed to size down quite a bit, aren't the two size smaller foils faster than their equivalent?
We haven't done any back-to-back measured speed testing, but having ridden the 780 and 925 extensively I'd say the top ends are similar on those two foils. We'll try and get some data and get back to you, but from a wave-riding perspective the new foils are the clear winner! Thanks for watching
@@KitePaddleSurf in what way are they better for wave riding? turning bc you have a smaller span for the equivalent size? (two down) or increased pitch stability?
@@greg.ocallaghan Both, as well as much lower stall speed, easy breach recovery and better pumping
@@KitePaddleSurf sounds like I need to demo! I know a lot of people are loving the new HA's because they found the old HA's too difficult to ride, but I put in a lot of time on those foils, especially the 725 (I'm 85kg's, so it's a small foil for me) and got really used to it. So I'm really curious about what the new HA's will give me, given that I did not find the old HA's difficult.
@@greg.ocallaghan Yeah we really enjoyed the previous gen HA's as well, it's amazing how they continue to improve!
Everyone else seems to be going narrower thinner and longer which seems to make a lot more sense.
Definitely a lot of boards like that coming out. We've been riding the Armstrong Midlength and will have a review out on that soon. There are pros and cons to every shape, just depends what you are looking for in a board!
Sickest microphone EVER! 🙌 Yeah boys.
The Stab makes a perfect MIC, thanks for watching and leaving a message, have a great day.
I loev your videos. Less fancier in production values compared to some others. But so spot on with the content. And such honesty... without spurting out the typical adversitising material from the brands.
Wow thanks for the feedback, we are definitely trying to be more casual with our reviews. Thanks for watching, have a terrific day!
KitePaddleSurf, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!
Awesome glad to hear you liked it and subscribed. Thanks for watching!
Gracias
Thanks for watching
Hey I’m 5’7 153 and I’ve been wanting to surf but I don’t want to spend past 250$ which should I try
For that price your best bet is to get a 8' wavestorm on amazon that comes with a leash for $250. Great beginner board for that price
Have you ridden Lift HAX?
No we have not tried the Lift HAX. Have you been able to ride it?
@@KitePaddleSurf Yes currently very stoked on the Lift 150HAX, but can't compare because I haven't been on these new Armstrong HA foils
@@seththeskierIf you ever get a chance on the HA Foil V2 let us know what you think, have a great day.
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I've had my Odysea Log for less than 2 months and it's already waterlogged. I 100% tightened the fin and leash before use so it's not that. Question: Why isn't it standard to gorilla glue or something, these plugs before use? I'm debating on getting this board and glue-sealing the fin boxes and leash plug before use. Thoughts?
Okay so that is a great ? on how to deal with a waterlogged Catch Surf Board. I can tell you first hand that these boards can get water logged. Gorilla Glue is great to use on these boards. Let the board dry for a few days. I assume you've checked the board over for gouges that may cause water to enter the board. If the board looks good then I would crank the fin boxes down really tight and apply some glue around the edges of the plugs. If your glueing the HDPE sheeting on the bottom of the board, make sure you sand it otherwise the glue will not adhere to it. Hope this helps a little with your situation. aaron
Whats a good size recommendation for a 120# person? riding a CF800 presently.
The HA580 would probably be the most comparable in terms of lift and low end. A lot has changed in foil tech since the CF800 - you will be amazed!
Great review! Do you think this would size up well? I’ve been surfing Grovelers around 37-38L and thinking of going with the 5’11 on this to stay around the same volume but get a little more performance with that pulled in tail. And still will be able to keep the wave count up. Thanks!
What mast .....is the performance mast a must have for these HAs and also which fuse works best?
Hello Clive. I think if you are over 165lbs or using wings wider than the HA880 you will benefit from the stiffer Performance Masts. The 60cm Fuse is the length we have been using for winging. - DJ
So if we are to believe the sales hype, Armstrong has fattened their chord at the cost of speed. Axis did this, moving from their ART series to their Spitfires. Many manufacturers are pulling back on ultimate speed to deliver more fun.
It's all about fun with speed, I agree with you brands are making the foiling experience better by making these foils more fun to ride. This new HA is much easier to use in comparison to the older model. Thanks for watching the review, have a great day.
Totally agree, I got a 780 and am considering getting something smaller, dont be afraid to size WAY down
Size down and you'll reap the benefits of more fun on the water!
Find the cheapest board you can find and paddle out
That's true cheap boards work as long as they float and have fins still attached to them. Regardless of the board it's all about having fun in the ocean.
Cheap longboard and a cheap shortboard are 2 different beasts, so the longboard is the best option.
Hi, I'm 75kg and 5'8 , I'm a beginner and i want to have fun and improve my surfing over time, so what would be the perfect size? Will 6'6 do?
I think a 6'6" board will be a little too small to learn on. I would recommend going no smaller than a 7'4" This will give you enough float to paddle into waves early and provide stability for your pop-up. This Torq Fun V+ surfboard is great to learn on, extra volume in a shorter length. Also at 22.5" wide it provides tons of stability for when your up and surfing the wave. These Torq boards for the price are incredible value, they are strong, light and incredibly durable. If you have any more ?'s let us know. www.kitepaddlesurf.com/products/torq-tet-mod-fun-v-vortex-pattern?_pos=3&_sid=6a2201faa&_ss=r
nice video but please tell us more about correct sizing of downwind board. youve gone from 53litre daily driver to 85l downwind board. im 220lb normally on 90l board what would you recommend?
Definitely depends rider to rider and how confident you are on the 90L but I think that somewhere around 110L would be perfect. Armstrong V2 options would be the 106L or 116L
Should I get this or the LTF?
If you have experience winging with a paddle board already then, I would definitely go for the I-Fly. If you are totally new to winging and looking to get some practice on a SUP board then I would go for the LTF. I have spent some time on the I-Fly and it works great for learning to wing if you are tight on space for traveling to and from the beach or storing at your home. What is your weight, that will help determine which Volume is best suited for you on the board?
Hi, I have a question. If I buy the spreader bar surf and just the hook separately. Can I adjust the hook to the spreader bar surf? My intention is to swap them according to the conditions. Thank you!
Yes you can swap out the Hook for the Surf Spreader bar. It takes about 45 seconds to swap them out.
Thank you! No one is reviewing or comparing these two. My one complaint with seat harnesses is mobility - not being able to bend at the waists as easy. Any insights on that between these two?
The Mystic is going to allow more range of motion because of its lower profile. If you're wanting more range of motion, then definitely go that direction. Thank you for watching the video we appreciate it. Let us know if you have any more questions.
Love they're kites, hate the bar. The flag line not being in the plastic tube wore and broke within a year! $140.00 to fix, no thanks.
Thank you for watching and leaving your experience with the bar. I have been using it 2-3 times a week for about 6 months and mine has not wore out at all. Sorry to here the bar didn't work out for you. Ozone kites are amazing I totally agree with you. Have a great day and thanks for leaving a comment.
so, which one is better ? honestly, this is a poor review
thanks franny