Could they be weights for making threads? Would you be able to wrap it figure 8 around the body where it'll hang from the face, ear, or eye, depending on the maker?
@runingblackbearАй бұрын
When i was a young boy i had to make mine and learn how to use them in my family's traditional ways of becoming a man you have no clue on what you have it makes me laugh when some try to guess and are wrong on what they are for 😂
@runingblackbearАй бұрын
They are not part of a throwing device of any sort 😅
@EagerJackrabbit-wy6zn3 ай бұрын
Found 1 whole one in over 25 years of hunting
@ianbruce65153 ай бұрын
This makes nonsense of the 'form follows function' view of arts and architecture. Humans have ALWAYS made functional objects much more beautiful than they need to be for reasons of function! This is who we are as a species!
@ianbruce65154 ай бұрын
Some of them look like Dachshunds! I must say--they look to be much more likely candidates for being atlatl weights--than are banner stones
@kirkstewart-vf6hg7 ай бұрын
I love stone age zoomorphic stone items. I think they are the greatest of all art objects.
@Creekstain2 ай бұрын
Hey kirk, come see my stuff!
@catdogky7 ай бұрын
The state of Ohio certainly is well represented.
@bogtrottername70015 ай бұрын
They live there.
@artifacthunter14727 ай бұрын
Found my first fully drilled Bannerstone two weeks ago quite an amazing experience!
@FacesintheStone8 ай бұрын
Some of these are not birds at all 😅 very limited. Art is creative by nature, this doesn’t begin to show the art of ancient people ❤
@bogtrottername70015 ай бұрын
I've seen your site --- my other collector friends and I find it very entertaining !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@howardfreeland559510 ай бұрын
Very nice video. I would purchase the book if it was a paper book. I can't do anything with a digital book!
@janieweidner10 ай бұрын
It will be part of a book soon
@ruthmusser444910 ай бұрын
Thanks, the patience it took!
@dmaschy59910 ай бұрын
I have 4 volums,bought them in 1972.
@FacesintheStone11 ай бұрын
The entire ancient world shares a style of art that goes unrecognized by most of the modern humans. If you want to see the people from ancient times, want to learn firsthand about your local indigenous people. Please look at the stones. Every single loose rock is an art piece. It’s incredible, but invisible until you learn style of art
@canadiangemstones763610 ай бұрын
You know how clouds look like things sometimes? Is that ancient art too? Or just coincidence? Preserve cloud art heritage!
@Bradmoore197911 ай бұрын
These videos are amazing!! Thanks so much for sharing! I enjoy making replicas and this is like a wonderland of reference photos.
@davidletasi332211 ай бұрын
Nice to see some of the best examples known. I have a pop eyed porphyria bird from the banks of the Maumi River near Perrysburg, Ohio. Some experts say they were a counterweight on the Atlatl, and some believe they were embellishments on native American flutes. Everyone I know of was found as isolated finds. An early article from Wisconsin did associate one in a Glacial Kame burial site. No one knows for sure their use, but they were tied in some way as the one example with the broken drill holes on its sides was later grooved for leather ties to attaching it once again. They must have been highly revered as so many have been modified when features were weathered or broken. Even just finding one is a lifetime achievement!
@Dillonmac9611 ай бұрын
Any dating on these found in situ ? A lot of these type of stone carvings have been found deep in mounds suggesting to me they are ancient origin instead of historical. 4000yesrs old
@ianbruce65154 ай бұрын
They do look like the 'birds' on Native American flutes. I have made a number of those flutes and the 'bird' or 'fetish' is a functional part of the flute. Without it you get no sound and with it you not only get the sound--but you can modify the sound by making small adjustments to the position of the bird.
@shable143611 ай бұрын
What were they used for?
@MOEMUGGY11 ай бұрын
Nobody really knows for sure, but it's believed they were weighted handles for Atlatl throwers.
@shable143611 ай бұрын
They are unbelievable, the cuts on some of them are straight
@davelink1318 Жыл бұрын
Still looking for one in lake county Ohio
@bogtrottername70015 ай бұрын
Well, keep looking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@meganmaher-karahalios2634 Жыл бұрын
I can't see any thing it says on the paper. I wish I could
@janiew48 Жыл бұрын
Are you looking on a phone? It is very clear on a computer.
@meganmaher-karahalios2634 Жыл бұрын
@@janiew48 oh, no .....That is the issue I'm sure lol. Thank you!!!!
@davelink1318 Жыл бұрын
Awesome artifacts! I live in northeast Ohio, sure wish I could find one of those!
@FacesintheStone11 ай бұрын
The Ohio river valley is where many of the people who are on the East Coast who are not federally recognized, come from. The indigenous people on the East Coast made treaties with the English during colonization, and so they were not able to gain Federal recognition. The graves protection act does not apply to them so we just destroy their mounds every time we build a new housing development along a river 😢 remember, the serpent mound would not be here if it weren’t for the local people creating the organization friends of the serpent mound. The government does not want these things seen, we live in a conquered country
@prehistoricartifacts311610 ай бұрын
Bannerstones are Archaic, long long before the mound builders. No evidence of them being here except for the artifacts they left.
@sharonrowland1196 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could find a few BannerStone 👍👋😃 Thank YOU for sharing 👍👍😃😃 I LOVE everything that has to do with HISTORY 👍😃♥️♥️♥️
@slenberger Жыл бұрын
Isn't this copyrighted material?
@prehistoricartifacts3116 Жыл бұрын
I wrote it.
@ianbruce65154 ай бұрын
The holes in bannerstones seems to match the shape and diameter of the darts. What's with that? So many atlats around the world, probably most-- could not use a bannerstone as a atatl weight. What were they really?
@terryword76464 күн бұрын
History it's good to be alive now and know
@SLBLADE Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@c.m.r.artifacts84 Жыл бұрын
Thank you showing these impressive tools of North Americas Ancient people. They are amazing!! There is so much to learn about these banner stones.
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Could they be weights for making threads? Would you be able to wrap it figure 8 around the body where it'll hang from the face, ear, or eye, depending on the maker?
When i was a young boy i had to make mine and learn how to use them in my family's traditional ways of becoming a man you have no clue on what you have it makes me laugh when some try to guess and are wrong on what they are for 😂
They are not part of a throwing device of any sort 😅
Found 1 whole one in over 25 years of hunting
This makes nonsense of the 'form follows function' view of arts and architecture. Humans have ALWAYS made functional objects much more beautiful than they need to be for reasons of function! This is who we are as a species!
Some of them look like Dachshunds! I must say--they look to be much more likely candidates for being atlatl weights--than are banner stones
I love stone age zoomorphic stone items. I think they are the greatest of all art objects.
Hey kirk, come see my stuff!
The state of Ohio certainly is well represented.
They live there.
Found my first fully drilled Bannerstone two weeks ago quite an amazing experience!
Some of these are not birds at all 😅 very limited. Art is creative by nature, this doesn’t begin to show the art of ancient people ❤
I've seen your site --- my other collector friends and I find it very entertaining !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very nice video. I would purchase the book if it was a paper book. I can't do anything with a digital book!
It will be part of a book soon
Thanks, the patience it took!
I have 4 volums,bought them in 1972.
The entire ancient world shares a style of art that goes unrecognized by most of the modern humans. If you want to see the people from ancient times, want to learn firsthand about your local indigenous people. Please look at the stones. Every single loose rock is an art piece. It’s incredible, but invisible until you learn style of art
You know how clouds look like things sometimes? Is that ancient art too? Or just coincidence? Preserve cloud art heritage!
These videos are amazing!! Thanks so much for sharing! I enjoy making replicas and this is like a wonderland of reference photos.
Nice to see some of the best examples known. I have a pop eyed porphyria bird from the banks of the Maumi River near Perrysburg, Ohio. Some experts say they were a counterweight on the Atlatl, and some believe they were embellishments on native American flutes. Everyone I know of was found as isolated finds. An early article from Wisconsin did associate one in a Glacial Kame burial site. No one knows for sure their use, but they were tied in some way as the one example with the broken drill holes on its sides was later grooved for leather ties to attaching it once again. They must have been highly revered as so many have been modified when features were weathered or broken. Even just finding one is a lifetime achievement!
Any dating on these found in situ ? A lot of these type of stone carvings have been found deep in mounds suggesting to me they are ancient origin instead of historical. 4000yesrs old
They do look like the 'birds' on Native American flutes. I have made a number of those flutes and the 'bird' or 'fetish' is a functional part of the flute. Without it you get no sound and with it you not only get the sound--but you can modify the sound by making small adjustments to the position of the bird.
What were they used for?
Nobody really knows for sure, but it's believed they were weighted handles for Atlatl throwers.
They are unbelievable, the cuts on some of them are straight
Still looking for one in lake county Ohio
Well, keep looking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't see any thing it says on the paper. I wish I could
Are you looking on a phone? It is very clear on a computer.
@@janiew48 oh, no .....That is the issue I'm sure lol. Thank you!!!!
Awesome artifacts! I live in northeast Ohio, sure wish I could find one of those!
The Ohio river valley is where many of the people who are on the East Coast who are not federally recognized, come from. The indigenous people on the East Coast made treaties with the English during colonization, and so they were not able to gain Federal recognition. The graves protection act does not apply to them so we just destroy their mounds every time we build a new housing development along a river 😢 remember, the serpent mound would not be here if it weren’t for the local people creating the organization friends of the serpent mound. The government does not want these things seen, we live in a conquered country
Bannerstones are Archaic, long long before the mound builders. No evidence of them being here except for the artifacts they left.
I wish I could find a few BannerStone 👍👋😃 Thank YOU for sharing 👍👍😃😃 I LOVE everything that has to do with HISTORY 👍😃♥️♥️♥️
Isn't this copyrighted material?
I wrote it.
The holes in bannerstones seems to match the shape and diameter of the darts. What's with that? So many atlats around the world, probably most-- could not use a bannerstone as a atatl weight. What were they really?
History it's good to be alive now and know
❤❤❤
Thank you showing these impressive tools of North Americas Ancient people. They are amazing!! There is so much to learn about these banner stones.