Old vid but with mono’s just shoot light weight for caliber to get velocity up. Barnes 130gr in a .308 is fantastic on medium game. 3000+ fps easily unless short barreled
@ianross-deer_hunterКүн бұрын
thank you
@trg37613 күн бұрын
I like Hornady CX
@dougkahler7152Ай бұрын
Barnes X bullets are one of the best hunting bullets ever made if not the absolute best! I like a bullet exiting the far side it leaves a huge blood trail a blind man can trail.
@JDsModernMartialArts2 ай бұрын
I bet the exact bullet placement with a 80gr .243 ballistic tip that wasnt as tough as the TTSX and stayed in the body it would be DRT.
@nathanadrian77972 ай бұрын
Looks like that Barnes was tumbling as it exited the first container.
@TheGunNerd2 ай бұрын
Barrel length used?
@letshuntdinner2 ай бұрын
It's 22 inches. Been cut back a little after getting rethreaded from the first time.
@1GruntZPOV3 ай бұрын
Deer are ridiculously resilient. Good work man
@karlmason61454 ай бұрын
What I've become mindful of is the lead shrapnel left behind in my family's meat.
@robertbowness29794 ай бұрын
How on earth are you allowed to shoot a .50BMG in a farmers field and close to a road?
@letshuntdinner4 ай бұрын
It's quite simple really. So the rifle is just a section 1 rifle like other sporting rifles. I've used this area as a testing range for many years and the rifle has a top end moderator making it remarkably quiet so it sounds just like any moderated centerfire. There's no restrictions preventing people setting up a temporary range so long as you comply with the principals of the 28 day rule, but the onus is placed squarely on the firer to ensure safety of all shots fired which is where you need to carefully assess your range for suitability and do have your risk assessments done and range order policies! But certainly yes I'm shooting directly away from the road in a controlled environment with safety my prioriy at all times. Cheers!
@Srriflery96814 ай бұрын
@@letshuntdinner Are you absolutely sure this is true?? I heard a story off a mate regarding some idiot losing his ticket for doing just that and not following his FAC conditions . Presumably you must have the 50BMG authorised for deer stalking in the UK? Otherwise it is ranges with a safety certificate for high muzzle energy cartridges only! The trouble is that one person acting irresponsibly could soil the bed for so many others !!
@letshuntdinner4 ай бұрын
@@Srriflery9681so yes, The conditions I have were drafted by the chief inspector to specifically allow me to do what you see in the video. I mean sure, the onus in on me to ensure safety and I have commercial insurance with RA and RO policies but testing with this rifle is not an issue.
@jadenrhoden47094 ай бұрын
In the future, a nice close-up showing off your knife would have been nice.
@stevenobrien_22-2504 ай бұрын
Are you now a leadfree convert Paul?
@letshuntdinner4 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair i'd stopped using 308 with lead free because the performance wasn't good enough with the bullet options available. But the design I've worked on is just better and acts much more like lead so my confidence is back for using 308 and yeah lead free is OK so long as you use my bullets lol
@stevenobrien_22-2504 ай бұрын
would i possibly be able to get some info from you regarding referencing 308 lead free bullets you recommend, as now a few of the forestry companies stipulate only lead free and although ive had decent kills with rws 308 its not great@@letshuntdinner
@letshuntdinner4 ай бұрын
@@stevenobrien_22-250 in fairness, any bullet is going to work if it goes in the right place but compared to lead the flight distance when chest shooting deer is on average a lot lot further. So for 308, the best results were always with the lightest fastest options like 110gr Barnes ttsx but they just didn't match lead. On cost you just can't beat the ppu Z Grom bullet which is their grom hunting bullet with a part tin core. They are meant for boar really but however you cut it shooting lead free you need a dog!. The UltraGame bullets I've been working on were to get lead like performance from lead free and so far they're delivering as you can see haha. Just reds to shoot and that's all the testing done so can get them on the market.
@williecosgrove4 ай бұрын
What exactly are you trying to prove here?????
@letshuntdinner4 ай бұрын
what exactly are you trying to ask...? All i'm doing is sharing my experiences and doing things a bit different... I was having a great time with great friends hunting with something different that was a challenge sure because of its size and weight but just pure awesome to shoot.
@williammcintosh12054 ай бұрын
Aye another good film great information for young and old and pure honesty 😂in the film to
@Paul-kf1ws4 ай бұрын
Bullets working well. Good visual reactions, are you getting a noise on impact? Paul@testvalleyvenison
@letshuntdinner4 ай бұрын
Yeah, real smacks but also really interesting is you see the remnant of the bullet hitting the ground after a couple of shots and big splashes as it continues to break apart when hitting ground after exit. Never seen that with all the ones I shot with Ttsx 😮
@dominicjohnson84275 ай бұрын
A very nice looking piece of land you have acquired there, look forward to seeing some reds on there
@williammcintosh12055 ай бұрын
I do like watching your films very interesting and I like your honesty Cheers roll on the next one 👏👍
@letshuntdinner5 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍cheers buddy!
@SikaHunter5 ай бұрын
Great video,well done- isn’t that type of damage exactly why lead ammo is so useful, hard to see copper doing that,we don’t have to use copper in Ireland yet , don’t think I will until I have to! (Might try it for a fun experiment alright though)
@letshuntdinner5 ай бұрын
yeah, with the lead ban problem coming I started working on a copper design that would work as near as lead as I could get. Pretty much all of the lead free stuff just doesn't dump energy like lead core stuff so the design I've been working on aims to fill that gap. Cheers!
@Paul-kf1ws5 ай бұрын
Great film 🎥, bullets working well. Paul@testvalleyvenison
@letshuntdinner5 ай бұрын
cheers!
@CallumHepworth-Smith5 ай бұрын
Where have ya been....its been ages since we saw you? Bullets look like they work ok
@letshuntdinner5 ай бұрын
been so busy since I became a dad and a grandad!
@michaelgrimley62535 ай бұрын
Awesome Paul I love it
@benwright33145 ай бұрын
Are you still testing/developing your lead free bullets?
@letshuntdinner5 ай бұрын
Yes, was shooting 620gr hollow points there. All the bullet designs are ready but the website and manufacturing for commercial volume needs sorted. Cheers!
@benwright33145 ай бұрын
@@letshuntdinner I'm interested to try them and see how they compare with various offerings currently on the market. Out of interest, are you offering them for 6.5 and what weight? They'd be cooking out of my PRC but the same could be said for my rem mag 😂
@letshuntdinner5 ай бұрын
7mm 120gr and 6.5 110gr... well at mo anyway!
@popnmeg6 ай бұрын
Great stuff , subscribed 🎯💥👍
@MRxr4006 ай бұрын
what a beast of a gun. that was a tough fox
@letshuntdinner6 ай бұрын
Never seen out like it..
@Glimpsedshow6 ай бұрын
how on earth did you get your FEO to sign off on this AND be allowed to shoot it on private property? I thought you had to be a member of a .50 cal rated HOAC and only shoot it on their range
@letshuntdinner6 ай бұрын
Yeah so, it's important to be clear about this so people don't think you can just get a bmg on an open ticket and normally such a calibre is specifically conditioned for range only as part of being a member of named organisations! The conditions that are placed on your FAC generally relate to your good reason and in my case due to land I have to carry out 50 cal bullet design testing I can use off range too of suitable land. But also, specifically for taking abroad hunting which for me leads up to big pest species in Africa and the US hopefully later this year!
@Glimpsedshow6 ай бұрын
Gotcha, so your SR is hunting big game abroad, it's not conditioned for anything in the UK, but you have the caveat that you can essentially zero it on private land just for ammunition and bullet testing. Fair enough. @@letshuntdinner
@stevesiddle10406 ай бұрын
spot on 😂
@m.tufail43036 ай бұрын
Looks like not big enough for “the fox” :)
@ATVadventuresScotland6 ай бұрын
Me with my parker hale loved her
@ammcknockiter6 ай бұрын
Foxing from a mile away
@quitelarry82336 ай бұрын
I work on a muti stage screw machine. Been considering turning 30cal solid brass. Thank you so much for the video. Fyi when you set an axe. Pushing down on the handle in a sharp jarring motion with break your bit lose. The lift to free it easily. (Had a wood stove all my life. Alot of splitting)
@LiquidColourDesignBallycarry6 ай бұрын
Congrats Paul
@bobbycollins6846 ай бұрын
Countless sleeplessness night waiting for this video
@MsPollya886 ай бұрын
Sure it’s big enough?? 😂
@stephenr14096 ай бұрын
That looks fun bet expensive
@letshuntdinner6 ай бұрын
Well, lead down range pound for pound it's the cheapest!
@theessexhunter13056 ай бұрын
Congrats Paul...x2 grand kids this end
@mikekopmanis20997 ай бұрын
Geez dude, can't you shoot anything smaller? LOL!
@letshuntdinner7 ай бұрын
haha, we've got smaller species than that!
@hasanmustafov25057 ай бұрын
Ttbt 150gr barnes coal ?
@macmckie22388 ай бұрын
Well said
@aussieshootandhuntadventur49738 ай бұрын
The deer would struggle to tell the difference
@dennisowen37179 ай бұрын
In watching your video I can't help but notice your velocities are way down on that 7MM Mag for those weight of bullets. You should be doing over 200fps faster than your showing. What powders are you using and what grain charges for each bullet. I've been a Ballastician for over 50+ years. I have developed many many rounds and powder combinations of several dozen caliber rifles and hand guns in that time frame. I know what works and what doesn't especially for the 7MM Mag.
@letshuntdinner9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was light starter charges of ramshot hunter only 56gr and 58gr I think but shows in the vid I think
@valentinez53299 ай бұрын
very helpful thanks king
@MasterFatness9 ай бұрын
Well shit. He certainly went to infinity and beyond.
@letshuntdinner9 ай бұрын
hahahahaha
@davidheywood208510 ай бұрын
Any update on the availability of these bullets please ?
@letshuntdinner10 ай бұрын
The bullets are ready, just building up data and looking for best manufacturer for commercial production. Would like them to have been on shelves already! Shouldn't be long but will need a month.
@MikeSmith-pq4wz10 ай бұрын
I understand why some places don't allow the use of a lead bullet. At the same time your video shows a major problem with a solid copper bullet. The answer used in the USA is the use of a fully bonded bullet which holds onto the jacket and retains almost 100% of its weight. Where the solid copper bullets retain there weight they lack the expansion of a fully bonded lead bullet. In hunting you want to kill the animal at the spot of impact and not have it run off to die. This is a problem if the bullet doesn't expand well and dump all the energy in the animal. You also made a good point about where that solid copper bullet is going to go after leaving the animal. Nosler makes wonderful fully bonded bullets along with the Gold Dot bullet line produced by Speer. Both of these bullets retain almost 100% of their weight and what is lost will be found inside the animal. I find that in hunting a humane kill should be of the highest importance! Having your game run off after being shot is not humane. I think that the solid bonded bullet is a good middle ground for the environment and the animal. I did enjoy your video and look forward to seeing more of your videos in the future.
@napsguns10 ай бұрын
those are very high speeds for that kind of bullets, that's why they disintegrate... not the right bullet for that magnum load
@letshuntdinner10 ай бұрын
Well sure, depends on what you're shooting
@shepherdosouls865411 ай бұрын
Waste of 2 minutes! Why even post that??
@letshuntdinner11 ай бұрын
Because that's the biggest set of tusks I've ever seen on a boar. It would have been a gold medal class trophy of a lifetime. Sometimes you have to appreciate the ones that get away.
@adampeters664411 ай бұрын
Excellent result! Can’t wait to see these on the market. I have been using geco zero on muntjac around here, yes they can be messy but we have a fair few footpaths and byways daren’t try barnes. This looks exactly what I’m after. Hope the family is all good, keep up the good work!
@letshuntdinner11 ай бұрын
cheers! just working on manufacturing costs to make sure I can get them on shelves at a competetive price.
@bobbycollins68411 ай бұрын
Great video
@letshuntdinner11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@CallumHepworth-Smith11 ай бұрын
Great vid mate as usual, but i have used frag copper bullets on Roe and noticed the petals (fragments) caused a lot of secondary meat damage on Roe. It would be interesting to see the damage to a cavity shot animal, but looks like it does the business. Cheers
@letshuntdinner11 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely, same with most lead bullets as well but the key thing with the design is safety through energy dump and weight shedding. I've been doing testing where premium lead free bullets had exit velocities over 2000 fps after shooting through 9 inches of gel holding their full weight. Fallow deer are only about 8 inches wide in the forward chest but unused energy has to go somewhere else if not in the game. The bullet is ideal for park shooting and shooting around popular country areas, peri-urban environments or flatter areas particularly in the summer where the soils can become dry and more compact. Cheers
@CallumHepworth-Smith11 ай бұрын
@@letshuntdinner Hi mate, Yep i get the fundamentals and sounds great in theory.... you doing one for the 6mm? and what BCs are you expecting? Looking forward to the next "update" vid. 🙂
@letshuntdinner11 ай бұрын
@@CallumHepworth-Smith yes will be doing 6mm, on paper the bc should be .340 g1 but waiting on the test batches to get them fired and confirmed. There a polymer tip design add-on option that would really up the bc but I'm trying to nail down UK manufacture for the tip.
@davidheywood208511 ай бұрын
When will these be available to purchase please ?
@Michelroedeerhunter11 ай бұрын
Thats my exact thoughts. Love testing new lead frees.
@letshuntdinner11 ай бұрын
They should hopefully be ready for retail this autumn!
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Old vid but with mono’s just shoot light weight for caliber to get velocity up. Barnes 130gr in a .308 is fantastic on medium game. 3000+ fps easily unless short barreled
thank you
I like Hornady CX
Barnes X bullets are one of the best hunting bullets ever made if not the absolute best! I like a bullet exiting the far side it leaves a huge blood trail a blind man can trail.
I bet the exact bullet placement with a 80gr .243 ballistic tip that wasnt as tough as the TTSX and stayed in the body it would be DRT.
Looks like that Barnes was tumbling as it exited the first container.
Barrel length used?
It's 22 inches. Been cut back a little after getting rethreaded from the first time.
Deer are ridiculously resilient. Good work man
What I've become mindful of is the lead shrapnel left behind in my family's meat.
How on earth are you allowed to shoot a .50BMG in a farmers field and close to a road?
It's quite simple really. So the rifle is just a section 1 rifle like other sporting rifles. I've used this area as a testing range for many years and the rifle has a top end moderator making it remarkably quiet so it sounds just like any moderated centerfire. There's no restrictions preventing people setting up a temporary range so long as you comply with the principals of the 28 day rule, but the onus is placed squarely on the firer to ensure safety of all shots fired which is where you need to carefully assess your range for suitability and do have your risk assessments done and range order policies! But certainly yes I'm shooting directly away from the road in a controlled environment with safety my prioriy at all times. Cheers!
@@letshuntdinner Are you absolutely sure this is true?? I heard a story off a mate regarding some idiot losing his ticket for doing just that and not following his FAC conditions . Presumably you must have the 50BMG authorised for deer stalking in the UK? Otherwise it is ranges with a safety certificate for high muzzle energy cartridges only! The trouble is that one person acting irresponsibly could soil the bed for so many others !!
@@Srriflery9681so yes, The conditions I have were drafted by the chief inspector to specifically allow me to do what you see in the video. I mean sure, the onus in on me to ensure safety and I have commercial insurance with RA and RO policies but testing with this rifle is not an issue.
In the future, a nice close-up showing off your knife would have been nice.
Are you now a leadfree convert Paul?
Well, to be fair i'd stopped using 308 with lead free because the performance wasn't good enough with the bullet options available. But the design I've worked on is just better and acts much more like lead so my confidence is back for using 308 and yeah lead free is OK so long as you use my bullets lol
would i possibly be able to get some info from you regarding referencing 308 lead free bullets you recommend, as now a few of the forestry companies stipulate only lead free and although ive had decent kills with rws 308 its not great@@letshuntdinner
@@stevenobrien_22-250 in fairness, any bullet is going to work if it goes in the right place but compared to lead the flight distance when chest shooting deer is on average a lot lot further. So for 308, the best results were always with the lightest fastest options like 110gr Barnes ttsx but they just didn't match lead. On cost you just can't beat the ppu Z Grom bullet which is their grom hunting bullet with a part tin core. They are meant for boar really but however you cut it shooting lead free you need a dog!. The UltraGame bullets I've been working on were to get lead like performance from lead free and so far they're delivering as you can see haha. Just reds to shoot and that's all the testing done so can get them on the market.
What exactly are you trying to prove here?????
what exactly are you trying to ask...? All i'm doing is sharing my experiences and doing things a bit different... I was having a great time with great friends hunting with something different that was a challenge sure because of its size and weight but just pure awesome to shoot.
Aye another good film great information for young and old and pure honesty 😂in the film to
Bullets working well. Good visual reactions, are you getting a noise on impact? Paul@testvalleyvenison
Yeah, real smacks but also really interesting is you see the remnant of the bullet hitting the ground after a couple of shots and big splashes as it continues to break apart when hitting ground after exit. Never seen that with all the ones I shot with Ttsx 😮
A very nice looking piece of land you have acquired there, look forward to seeing some reds on there
I do like watching your films very interesting and I like your honesty Cheers roll on the next one 👏👍
Thanks 👍cheers buddy!
Great video,well done- isn’t that type of damage exactly why lead ammo is so useful, hard to see copper doing that,we don’t have to use copper in Ireland yet , don’t think I will until I have to! (Might try it for a fun experiment alright though)
yeah, with the lead ban problem coming I started working on a copper design that would work as near as lead as I could get. Pretty much all of the lead free stuff just doesn't dump energy like lead core stuff so the design I've been working on aims to fill that gap. Cheers!
Great film 🎥, bullets working well. Paul@testvalleyvenison
cheers!
Where have ya been....its been ages since we saw you? Bullets look like they work ok
been so busy since I became a dad and a grandad!
Awesome Paul I love it
Are you still testing/developing your lead free bullets?
Yes, was shooting 620gr hollow points there. All the bullet designs are ready but the website and manufacturing for commercial volume needs sorted. Cheers!
@@letshuntdinner I'm interested to try them and see how they compare with various offerings currently on the market. Out of interest, are you offering them for 6.5 and what weight? They'd be cooking out of my PRC but the same could be said for my rem mag 😂
7mm 120gr and 6.5 110gr... well at mo anyway!
Great stuff , subscribed 🎯💥👍
what a beast of a gun. that was a tough fox
Never seen out like it..
how on earth did you get your FEO to sign off on this AND be allowed to shoot it on private property? I thought you had to be a member of a .50 cal rated HOAC and only shoot it on their range
Yeah so, it's important to be clear about this so people don't think you can just get a bmg on an open ticket and normally such a calibre is specifically conditioned for range only as part of being a member of named organisations! The conditions that are placed on your FAC generally relate to your good reason and in my case due to land I have to carry out 50 cal bullet design testing I can use off range too of suitable land. But also, specifically for taking abroad hunting which for me leads up to big pest species in Africa and the US hopefully later this year!
Gotcha, so your SR is hunting big game abroad, it's not conditioned for anything in the UK, but you have the caveat that you can essentially zero it on private land just for ammunition and bullet testing. Fair enough. @@letshuntdinner
spot on 😂
Looks like not big enough for “the fox” :)
Me with my parker hale loved her
Foxing from a mile away
I work on a muti stage screw machine. Been considering turning 30cal solid brass. Thank you so much for the video. Fyi when you set an axe. Pushing down on the handle in a sharp jarring motion with break your bit lose. The lift to free it easily. (Had a wood stove all my life. Alot of splitting)
Congrats Paul
Countless sleeplessness night waiting for this video
Sure it’s big enough?? 😂
That looks fun bet expensive
Well, lead down range pound for pound it's the cheapest!
Congrats Paul...x2 grand kids this end
Geez dude, can't you shoot anything smaller? LOL!
haha, we've got smaller species than that!
Ttbt 150gr barnes coal ?
Well said
The deer would struggle to tell the difference
In watching your video I can't help but notice your velocities are way down on that 7MM Mag for those weight of bullets. You should be doing over 200fps faster than your showing. What powders are you using and what grain charges for each bullet. I've been a Ballastician for over 50+ years. I have developed many many rounds and powder combinations of several dozen caliber rifles and hand guns in that time frame. I know what works and what doesn't especially for the 7MM Mag.
Yeah, it was light starter charges of ramshot hunter only 56gr and 58gr I think but shows in the vid I think
very helpful thanks king
Well shit. He certainly went to infinity and beyond.
hahahahaha
Any update on the availability of these bullets please ?
The bullets are ready, just building up data and looking for best manufacturer for commercial production. Would like them to have been on shelves already! Shouldn't be long but will need a month.
I understand why some places don't allow the use of a lead bullet. At the same time your video shows a major problem with a solid copper bullet. The answer used in the USA is the use of a fully bonded bullet which holds onto the jacket and retains almost 100% of its weight. Where the solid copper bullets retain there weight they lack the expansion of a fully bonded lead bullet. In hunting you want to kill the animal at the spot of impact and not have it run off to die. This is a problem if the bullet doesn't expand well and dump all the energy in the animal. You also made a good point about where that solid copper bullet is going to go after leaving the animal. Nosler makes wonderful fully bonded bullets along with the Gold Dot bullet line produced by Speer. Both of these bullets retain almost 100% of their weight and what is lost will be found inside the animal. I find that in hunting a humane kill should be of the highest importance! Having your game run off after being shot is not humane. I think that the solid bonded bullet is a good middle ground for the environment and the animal. I did enjoy your video and look forward to seeing more of your videos in the future.
those are very high speeds for that kind of bullets, that's why they disintegrate... not the right bullet for that magnum load
Well sure, depends on what you're shooting
Waste of 2 minutes! Why even post that??
Because that's the biggest set of tusks I've ever seen on a boar. It would have been a gold medal class trophy of a lifetime. Sometimes you have to appreciate the ones that get away.
Excellent result! Can’t wait to see these on the market. I have been using geco zero on muntjac around here, yes they can be messy but we have a fair few footpaths and byways daren’t try barnes. This looks exactly what I’m after. Hope the family is all good, keep up the good work!
cheers! just working on manufacturing costs to make sure I can get them on shelves at a competetive price.
Great video
Thanks!
Great vid mate as usual, but i have used frag copper bullets on Roe and noticed the petals (fragments) caused a lot of secondary meat damage on Roe. It would be interesting to see the damage to a cavity shot animal, but looks like it does the business. Cheers
Yes absolutely, same with most lead bullets as well but the key thing with the design is safety through energy dump and weight shedding. I've been doing testing where premium lead free bullets had exit velocities over 2000 fps after shooting through 9 inches of gel holding their full weight. Fallow deer are only about 8 inches wide in the forward chest but unused energy has to go somewhere else if not in the game. The bullet is ideal for park shooting and shooting around popular country areas, peri-urban environments or flatter areas particularly in the summer where the soils can become dry and more compact. Cheers
@@letshuntdinner Hi mate, Yep i get the fundamentals and sounds great in theory.... you doing one for the 6mm? and what BCs are you expecting? Looking forward to the next "update" vid. 🙂
@@CallumHepworth-Smith yes will be doing 6mm, on paper the bc should be .340 g1 but waiting on the test batches to get them fired and confirmed. There a polymer tip design add-on option that would really up the bc but I'm trying to nail down UK manufacture for the tip.
When will these be available to purchase please ?
Thats my exact thoughts. Love testing new lead frees.
They should hopefully be ready for retail this autumn!