The 2nd principal holds true except for carving. When you enters carving turn you may put 50/50 weight on both legs
@ionlovsky39839 ай бұрын
Moving slow. Topple. Patience. Love it!
@ionlovsky3983 Жыл бұрын
Awesome lecture, and a little golden nugget at the end about which part of the pivoted ski skidding into the mogul does what - tip to wash tail out, centre to stop, tail to create a pinballing effect, wow!
@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын
Sweet 😊
@otisregatoni617 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Touched on a lot
@RodKrisBisdakMotovlog Жыл бұрын
Woooooooowww superb and awesome vidz my friend
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
If only it was anatomically possible for ankles to roll over like that. Even if they could, try doing it with ski boots on. He has no clue and never has.
@xm90472 ай бұрын
It's Jack the youtube troll! I see he commenting negatively everywhere hahaha!
@JB917102 ай бұрын
@@xm9047 How old are you, 6?
@inquistive Жыл бұрын
Anyone what type of skis and average ski lengths are these guys generally using in this video? I am thinking slalom skis 165 - 170cm.
@user-gr1kq2se9c Жыл бұрын
short turn 165 long turn 183
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
2:28 Actually, you shouldn't focus on the end results, you should focus on what creates them which is the upper body positioning and the weight change. You only think about feelings in the foot after you have done the right things with your upper body to see if it worked. Then you make adjustments to your body and knees to make the skis perform as needed. If you focus on your feet or heels, you won't be skiing at all. 3:40 Everything said is 100% wrong especially this. 4:00 It is the positioning of the Upper body back in the fall line and down the hill that creates the new leg angle that puts the skis on the new edges which allows the skis to make the turns for you. You cannot do that with just your legs. 4:32 His legs are leaning over, and his skis are getting on edge because he is moving his pelvis to the side. he is positioning his upper body to create the new leg angle. At the start of a new turn, that position is down the hill and back into the fall line. You make new turns with your face, hands and chest, not your legs and feet. The last thing to happen is down below, not the first. Go back to 4:00 at .25 speed and watch the changes he makes from the top down while his skis are still crossing the hill. Nothing would have happened if he hadn't rotated his upper body to face and lean down the hill as he changed his weight from his left to right foot. When you look at a skier it Looks Like the legs are doing all the work when it is actually the upper body that dictates what happens below. You make turns from your eyes down, not from your feet up.
@iandunn9497 Жыл бұрын
For me the number 1 essential to create a turn is what I do with my feet. I can stand on the smallest of slope, have a slight bend in my knees for good balance and push off, slide forward and then stop. That hasn’t been a turn yet. I don’t want to do anything with my upper body to create the turn. I want a quiet upper body. I don’t want to twist my feet either. If I do I’ll probably add upper body shoulder rotation to help the twist. Not good. Exactly the wrong movement. But I can make a very significant turn if I do two things with ONE of my feet. All I have to do is lighten the weight off one ski and tip the ski to its little toe edge. If I am sliding forward and do that tipping of one foot I will create a turn. The more I tip it the tighter the radius. After I master this movement I then add upper body movements to control/compliment the forces of the turn.
@iandunn9497 Жыл бұрын
These fundamental movements I describe to create a turn come from the best ski teacher in the business, in my opinion. Harald Harb. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2F1mbywXZneXZM.html
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
@@iandunn9497 Actually, he is one of the worst. When he skis he does none of the things he teaches and nothing he teaches is correct. Tipping, yeah, right!
@iandunn9497 Жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 oh please mate, you have one very poor demonstration of skiing on your channel where you offer commentary about facing down the hill. Not exactly revolutionary. It doesn’t matter what you think you are doing or describing, the end result is you are demonstrating skidded heel push late turns. Poor turn shape. There is no engagement of the edges above the fall line. You need plenty of what Harb has to offer. Given he has published countless books and videos, runs camps in Colorado and Austria every year, booked out months in advance with repeat customers from all over the world, (including me from Australia), I’m going to say he’s got plenty of credibility and his methods work. At 70+yrs of age with a knee and hip replacement, he’s still the best technical skier on the mountain every time he steps into his skis. Not only is he a superb skier and instructor, he has run a Colorado boot fitting shop for decades. He knows all there is to know about skiing movements and boot fitting. Here he is skiing last season. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIR5t9GfpNGpYMY.html
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
@@iandunn9497 "oh please mate, you have one very poor demonstration of skiing on your channel where you offer commentary about facing down the hill." My demonstration is exactly what I wanted it to be. Did you bother to REAAD the description of my intention? If I wanted to demonstrate carving, I would have. As far as having only one video, skiing and teaching it is just not that hard. My comments teach everything a person needs from beginner to racer and as far a volume, I repeat the same thing in different ways, so my method looks a lot longer than it really is. "The end result is you are demonstrating skidded heel push late turns. Poor turn shape." I AM demonstrating skidding turns because that is what 99.9% of all skiers do. I chose not to Show Off and intimidate the viewers, I wanted to show them how easy skis turn with next to no effort on their part. However, I am Not pushing my heels at all. The ski design is making those turns due to my body positioning and weight change. They are making the turns from beginning to end. "There is no engagement of the edges above the fall line.' That's because I am not Carving the turns. "You need plenty of what Harb has to offer." The Only thing Harb has to offer is his cute personality and entertainment. He is the Pied Piper and people like you are his brain-dead followers. Everything he teaches, he doesn't do when he skis. Everything the students do when they Follow him, results in the skis changing direction and going straight down the hill where they have to resort to Hockey Stops to slow down and stop. "Given he has published countless books and videos, runs camps in Colorado and Austria every year, booked out months in advance with repeat customers from all over the world, (including me from Australia), I’m going to say he’s got plenty of credibility and his methods work." He does all that to MAKE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He doesn't have credibility; he has sheep who blindly follow him because he makes them feel good. Their skis change direction when they try what he says but that is because a shaped ski will start to change direction instantly when it gets on the smallest of edges. Like you saw but didn't understand from my video. What he doesn't teach you is how to make a ski actually complete a turn to control your speed. I have never seen or heard him say one thing right. Again, everything you need to know about skiing is in my words at my one video. So, what does that make him if he needs to provide so much? An entrepreneur. "At 70+yrs of age with a knee and hip replacement, he’s still the best technical skier on the mountain every time he steps into his skis." That doesn't mean he can teach what he does. There isn't one person I have seen in my 54 years of teaching experience, who can teach skiing correctly and if you have been paying attention, I am in the comment section on just about every video on KZread, proving that. "Not only is he a superb skier and instructor, he has run a Colorado boot fitting shop for decades." Yes, and just about every time he answers a Followers question, which is a rare occasion, he tells them to buy his books and CDs and get their boots adjusted instead of simply answering their questions. That is not a Teacher. "He knows all there is to know about skiing movements and boot fitting." So, his faithful follower says. Try telling me in your own words how to make a turn from the end of one GS turn through the end of another. You can even quote him, and I will gladly disembowel whatever you come up with. P.S. This short video explains how people chose what they believe. Replace the word "Truth" with "Ski Teaching". It describes the worlds ski teaching methods and humanity perfectly. The writers wouldn't have created this scene if it wasn't. They know. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4edzKRyXavdZ8o.html
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
31:30 What you feel in your feet should not be a teaching method. How you position your body to make a technically correct turn is all you need. I have never once in 54 years, told a student to think about their heel. Does telling you what your tires experience in a turn matter or just how to rotate the steering wheel? The reason you feel pressure on your heel is because there is a straight line from your leg bones to your heel. To feel pressure on the ball of your foot, you would have to manipulate your foot dramatically to bend it down in a boot that is clamping your foot in place. You teach how to ski, not describe what it looks and feels like.
@debbielombard5132 Жыл бұрын
Interesting comments. My husband of 34 years is an expert skier, ski race trained as well as freestyle, I am not. He doesn't know how to teach but has always told me he feels it in his feet, his feet are tired at the end of the day from gripping foot to foot etc. He also feels it in the pelvic girdle area and knows to call it a day when he uses more hip movement than he should. I couldn't understand what he was talking about until I started some land training from watching some of Tom's videos. Stand on one foot at home and you will notice that you are a lot more stable and can stand one footed longer as you concentrate on the foot contacting the ground, now do it on a wobble board. On my mountain bike I absolutely put pressure on my pedals during the descent whether one foot in banked turns or both on straight runs as I am not in the saddle and don't load the handlebars with extra weight. I've made huge improvements in both sports when I started focusing on my feet. Thanks for all your conversations on this video, I got me to think about what exactly it was that pushed me to the next level in my sports, feet.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
@@debbielombard5132 Hi Debbie, Let's start with this. If his feet are hurting at the end of the day, either his boots don't fit right, or he is doing something with his feet that is making them cramp. My feet never hurt no matter what type of skiing I do. I just spent 5 hours straight carving turns at Okemo and the last thing that hurts are my feet. I felt plenty of pressure under the arch of my foot but not pain. I don't understand the pelvic girdle pain. Again, I never have pain in that area and never have. The only place I feel pain is when the front of my thighs starts to cramp up after a long hard run. At this point I will tell you that ski teaching and race teaching is done completely wrong. Since I have never skied the way that it is taught, I never feel those pains. Tom Gellie has no idea how to teach skiing or even land training. If you just listen to him speak, there is no confidence coming from him. His one-foot analogy and on a wobble board have absolutely nothing to do with skiing. Balancing on skis has nothing to do with and cannot be compared to balancing in your living room. Try balancing on a bicycle that isn't moving. What you do pedaling a bike has nothing to do with skiing other than, you can't pedal a bike unless you completely change your weight from one pedal to the other very quickly. What you feel in your feet is not the starting place, it is the end result. Where you feel pressure in your feet is also dependent on what you do with your body. When I make a parallel or carved turn, I only feel things happening with my feet After I have done things with my upper body and my weight and balance change from one foot to the other. In ski teaching methods, just about every organization focuses on what skiing looks and feels like, not on what you have to do with your upper body to allow the skis to make turns as designed. I wouldn't be suppressed at all that skiers feel a lot of pain from skiing the way they have been taught. Read all my comments on my video. Everything you need from beginner to racer is there. The Right way!
@debbielombard5132 Жыл бұрын
@@JB91710 Hello, thanks for the reply. I didn't say he felt pain, I said he and now we feel tired in those areas. Like any sport that uses muscles specific to the sport but not to daily life or general fitness routines you will feel more tired in some areas. I've skied for years using the "traditional" method of skiing that you are referring to, this includes two Heli-ski trips. When I say my husband is an expert skier, I'm not exaggerating, I just can't learn from my spouse. I was looking to increase my skills especially for all mountain skiing to feel more confidence in extreme conditions, that's how I found Tom's videos. Using these new methods has changed my skiing considerably and I'm really happy with how much fun it is. We skied yesterday in wet heavy non groomed snow, concentrating on my feet and pelvis-core, I lost my fluidity every time I lost focus on those two areas. I could quickly get my balance back without stopping by refocusing my intentions. Last Friday we skied perfectly groomed snow on piste: you are correct the skis do the work when you topple over them, so much fun! That was a long skiing day, I could have done that from dawn to dusk, mostly short turns with some big GS turns added in for fun when appropriate. The skis do all of the heavy lifting in those conditions. You are also correct about your hands; I have a lazy right hand while skiing, it's magnified off piste, and did a lot of work yesterday to try to fix this problem and make it effortless. I'll take all your suggestions to the hill today and see what I feel. As a side note I keep my upper body weight forward not from the shoulders or upper body, but from my pelvis and lower core. As a woman my center of gravity is different from men, and this keeps me from getting too "hippy" or in "the back seat". Thanks again, have a great day.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
When you read all my comments here, DEBATE ME, tell me where and how I am wrong, not That I am wrong. My 54 years of teaching and especially my 51 years of Thinking, says I am most likely right. Here is one example of how I am right. With the creation of shaped skis, snowplow and stem turns should have been completely removed from ski teaching. They have not. They are still in mainstream ski teaching worldwide.
@m0rtymer10 ай бұрын
Snowplough should have been removed? So how exactly would you teach first timers to stop themselves, using a hockey stop? :)
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
29:24 The Fred Flintstone way to Make your skis change direction. You can do this, or you can just position your pelvis more into the turn to increase the leg angle and the skis will turn more.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
28:06 From this traverse across the slope, this is what you should think about and do. 1. Look, down the hill to where you want to make the next turn. 2. Rotate your upper body and hands to face slightly down the hill and plant your left pole down the hill. 3. Take your weight completely off your downhill left foot and balance on your right foot. Your momentum across the slope, gravity pulling you down the hill and the design of the ski will create a new leg angle and allow the right ski to make the next turn. 29:08 Now watch him do it here.
@JB917109 ай бұрын
@@deanl5832 Did you just look at the video of me "Demonstrating how little you have to move your body to allow your skis to make the turns for you" or did you READ and Comprehend what I wrote? All Tom and his playmates do is show you what skiing looks and feels like and that is NOT how you TEACH people how to understand what skiing is and what you have to do to allow your skis to make turns. In one of my comments here I said DEBATE ME. You didn't do that! All you did is say, "My heroes are better than you. You stop it or I'll tell my mommy!" You should have said it that way. It would have better described how you understood what he said in this lecture. If you even listened to his presentation, you would have noticed he has no confidence in what he says. And, if you did understand him and you think he is a great teacher, in your own words, try teaching me how to position my body and change my weight to allow my skis to make turns. I Dare you!
@JB917109 ай бұрын
@deanl5832 I didn't learn one thing about skiing from what you said. That makes you a hero worshipping follower, not a thinker and surely not a teacher. Ignorance is bliss, and all you Tom followers are very blissful.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
26:23 Notice the line from the arch of his left foot through his knee to his hip joint. There is No tipping of the knees or rolling of the ankle. His upper body and pelvis position in relation to the direction of his skis is what is creating an entire leg angle change which is what puts the skis on edge. it is the rotation of his entire upper body down the fall line that rotates the knee which gives the illusion that the knee is bending sideways. If you concentrate on the ankle and knee to make turns, your skis will Only change direction, they won't turn and control your speed. Straight down and across the hill to the right, straight down and across the hill to the left. 26:50 With concentration on Tipping, notice how his weight has transferred to his inside ski which is digging in and turning more than his outside ski, his ski lock onto too much edge, they jet out from under him, he sits back, and the skis go straight and stop turning. So, he has to go into the next turn to catch himself. That's what happens to You on every turn until you are going so fast you have to push your outside ski away from you, rotate your upper body into the slope in a panic stop which usually makes you spin around backwards. You don't blame him; you blame yourself and that just isn't right.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
3:15 No he isn't learning any of those things. All he has been taught is how to make the skis change directing by forcing them and how to angle JUST his leg to Force a ski onto an edge. I can see Gellie's teaching method in the results of his son. The Fred Flintstone way of skiing. Force it to turn instead of letting them perform as designed. 3:40 The boy is concentrating on Just his foot and lower leg, not on the positioning of his upper body which will allow him to BALANCE on that one turning ski in order to allow the ski to make the turn for him and allow it to Complete the turn to control speed. Making turns the Gellie way or just about any ski instructor's way, will not help you on steep trails or at speed. You don't force a ski, you let a ski do what it was designed to do. 4:05 Now watch this stop. This proves that he has Not been taught how to make a proper stop or he would have. He forced his left foot to change direction by twisting his leg and foot and pushing it away with his hip which created a perpendicular angle to the slope to flatten the ski instead of edge it and also caused his right foot to stay pointed straight down the hill with his upper body weight over that ski instead of his left ski. You don't HAVE to steer or force a ski!!! People who do and Teach that are the ones who don't know how a ski is supposed to work. 8:12 Ski is Not this complicated. Do you need to know and understand how your car makes a turn beyond rotating the steering wheel? Tails like this are not going to make you a better skier, they are just going to confuse you which makes you feel you need more of these lectures! Think about that. "The more complicated a person makes his subject sound, the less he knows about it." It's called, Deflection! 26:08 You know how Gellie and all ski instructors talk about tipping your knees and rolling your ankles over? Does it look like he is doing that in this turn? No, he isn't. 25:50 He has positioned his entire upper body, from his head down to his pelvis, back in the fall line or straight down the hill while his skis are still trying to cross the slope. That is creating the new LEG angle and rotating his knees that is putting his skis on edge. It is physically impossible to roll your ankles over especially in ski boots. You don't tip your knees to the side; your hip joint and knee ROTATE while your upper body is trying to go down the hill while your skis are still crossing it. Stand up now and try it. You are completing a turn to the left on your right foot. Rotate your upper body to go to your right and watch your body twist right down to your knees. Take your weight off your right foot and you will fall to your right. Notice the left leg angle change. Combined with the twisting of your knees, your weight will be loaded on the inside edge of the tip of your left foot and that right turn will be made by the ski, not by you. The LAST thing that happens in a turn is your skis rolling over and your skis turning, not the first!!! You think about skiing down a hill with your hands and chest, not your feet. I'm not going through this entire lecture; I'm going to get to the point. All you need is to become confident balancing on one ski at a time while positioning your body to allow your skis to make turns and make minor adjustments during the turn to keep your track and speed where you want it. Think of standing on the pedals of a bicycle and pedaling. Point the front tire down the hill and get off the downhill pedal. To slow down, press the brake pedal which is the tongue of the boots and rotate your knees into the slope. That bends the tips more and the tails slide around to slow you down. THAT"S IT! That's all you need to know about skiing whether you are a student or ski instructor! Understanding skiing is not hard! In today's teaching climate, learning is!
@downhillskier7 Жыл бұрын
Movement center of mass (hip joint) down the fall line releases the skis for next turn
@emilferent23 Жыл бұрын
Great to learn about this. Thanks for sharing
@noraneal4078 Жыл бұрын
👏 pքɾօʍօʂʍ
@jmattmerritt996 Жыл бұрын
It was interesting to learn that jamming my shins into the fronts of my boots resulted in more weight felt on my heels. But wouldn't the leverage from bending the boot boot put greater pressure on the front of the skis, regardless of where it's felt on the foot?
@MrArunasB Жыл бұрын
Its all about control and feeling. Aplying pressure just on the front of the boot is hard to get how much of actual pressure is applyed its more like a guess thing. Its way more efective to have feeling in your foot, also pressure applyed just from the boot its delayed, pressure from your foot has way quicker reponce. Ith has to be combined shin to front of the boot ant your foot.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
Where you feel "Pressure" in your foot is way less important than where your upper body positioning is and the results in the radius of the turn. Contrary to everyone's beliefs, skiing and turning originate in this order. The rotation of your eyes, hands, chest, (weight change from your downhill to uphill foot), pelvis, thighs and knees, down the hill. Notice I said nothing about knee tipping or ankle rolling. Those are the results or symptums of what I described. You don't teach the end results, you teach how to get there. if you do, you will have no speed control because all your ski will do is change direction, they won't bend and turn. 25:50 What you see here, he doesn't teach you. He only teaches you from your knees down. That's like trying to teach you how to turn a car by telling you about the steering mechanism instead of what the car needs from you, rotate the steering wheel.
@edjcambridge Жыл бұрын
Nice commentary on skidding vs edging and balance. It has me thinking about correcting over skidding in a skiers short turns with balance - cool! Thanks Tom!
@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын
Nice takeaway. I feel good that this is what you learnt from the lecture
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
Yes but, you weren't taught How to position your upper body and make adjustments in it to move from skidding to edging. Not the correct way anyway. You don't force it, you let it. You don't recreate what it looks like, you do what will make it look like that.
@gregpark1359 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. The level of detail forced myself to really think about what I’m doing rather than just chasing an adrenaline rush each time I’m on the mountain
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
But what you do with this information will dictate the results and the information you recieved will not get you the results you want.
I always find this ski terminology, as used in the second half of this video, to be very nebulous: "steering, steering angle, guiding, edge angle, rotate more, edge more". All apparently to create a simple turn. "Steering" perhaps being the worst in terms of creating understanding. What the hell does steering mean? Perhaps it's just a less agricultural way of saying "twist" your feet. It's the same language constantly used in ski schools the world over that leaves the student non the wiser. As I say, it effectively conveys a twisting of the feet as a primary movement. Steering, twisting, rotation = z shaped turns for most skiers. Rotation of course brings shoulder rotation in many skier's efforts to perform the steering/twisting of feet and leg movements. No wonder there are so few decent skiers on the mountain. The instructor in the video then shows the ski turn release with an extension and stands up, pushing his center of mass away from the snow. Another sure way to screw up a skier's balance, and to bank a turn with no angulation and too much weight ending up on the inside ski.
@jamietouchie12802 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Just like driving a car. Twist the twisting wheel in the direction you want to go. Steering is just so confusing.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
GOOD FOR YOU IAN!!! Read my comment above and at my video if you want skiing described in words you can understand.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
@@jamietouchie1280 Read my comment above and at my video if you want skiing described in words you can understand.
@harrymcfadden2 жыл бұрын
Great skiing
@MellenJay2 жыл бұрын
Good tips Josh & Harry
@morphine3333332 жыл бұрын
Great instruction👍
@kayakutah2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, it seems that boot manufacturers tend to market ski boots for world cup racers. An average skier, who gets out a dozen times a year is not well served by a super stiff boot with a lot of forward lean built in. As you point out, there is a sweet spot of forward lean that allows the skeleton to carry the load. In many of the high end boots, this factory setting is too much. Also, an overly stiff boot prevents one from absorbing deformations in the snow efficiently. In order to absorb, you have to "hinge" at two points. I think it's best if you can primarily hinge at the ankle and knee, as that keeps you fairly upright with a good range of motion. With a locked ankle, you have to hinge at the knee and hip. This forces you to get into a more "seated" position from where your CG tends to shift back into a more "butt back, chest forward" stance which is hard to hold and has a smaller range within which you can move to extend and retract to absorb shock.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
Every manufacturer makes boots to work with all levels of skier. You HAVE to shop in your ability range.
@windyknot2094 Жыл бұрын
NOTHING could be further from true. Have a look at the Nordica HF with shell flex from 90 -110.
@johnluhmann15812 жыл бұрын
What a great video . Amazing skier
@MrDogonjon3 жыл бұрын
All the coaches I know put emphasis on crushing the boot... deforming the shell...up to warping the dinsole through forward leverage. Frightening and uncomfortable the difference in ski design reaction is palpable and true dynamic control is impossible otherwise. The art and science of skiing is knowing the chemistry going on under the ski. Above that foundation is all the differentiated levels of time dilations that stack up countered to ground force reactions.
@JB91710 Жыл бұрын
"The art and science of skiing is knowing the chemistry going on under the ski." Is the "Art" of driving a car in knowing what is going on in your rack and pinion steering system? No! The art of driving is in doing what the car needs from you. Same with skis.
@patrickpurcell36713 жыл бұрын
Great principles. Thanks for posting much appreciated.
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@crosbymalcolm73053 жыл бұрын
@Myles Zayd Definitely, I've been using Instaflixxer for since december myself =)
@JanosKoranyi3 жыл бұрын
This video is excellent. Generally I agree to your teaching. 1. Stance. Let me help you a little. There is a little contradiction about the boot-tongue pressure! You say that a skier should have no pressure on the tongue, then you say that the skier should have a pressure. I would say that having a tongue pressure is essential, the most important skill at all downhill skiing. The dorsal flexion of the ankles creates it, yes but there is also another way, by putting your COM ahead of the middle point of your skis. And you need both ways during an optimal carved turn. After apex you use the dorsal flex, before apex you use the other way. Steering the skis by the COM is easier to learn and understand, and I think that this way is more important for beginners and intermediate skiers. 2. Agree!!! Modern ski-instructors (USA, Japan etc) do not care so much for the ski pressures. I love your way of thinking here! The negative part of this is at the transitions of the cross under carved turns. At this point you should have higher pressure on the new inside ski during the start of the turn. But I think, just as you do, that beginners and intermediate skiers should not care for this until they learn about cross under turns. 3. Here you have an important issue!! Parallel turns need to be started by 2 basic principles. One is the body projection to the fall-line, two is the edgings of the skis. Also at skidded parallel turns you must also create both parts to some degree, combined with separation and control of the pressure differences of the 2 skis. If you do not make the body projection, you will end up in a braking process, like a hockey-stop, because your COM will stay on the hillside of the skis (on the hillside of the middle points of your skis) during the whole turn. Interested of my way of thinking? I have written books about learning of downhill skiing.
@MrDogonjon3 жыл бұрын
In my book Mountains, trees and Water I out line the origins of how and why we ski the way we do. In North America it all came down to my Grand mother who in1960 bought each of her children 100 shares in the newly proposed Big Mountain Ski Area my Dad helped found. That year they hired Austrian racer Toni Mott as the first ski school director. He quickly assembled the regional schools together consolidating PSIA. "The New Way to Ski" by Willie Schifler was the text book my Dad gave me to learn about skiing from. Today this is more relevant than ever as PSIA diverged from recognizing good skiing long ago to prefer weaker stylistic postures and preference to narcissistic inferior instructors as clinicians.
@patrickpurcell36713 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of only lifting the inside ski until near the fall line rather than lifting during whole turn. This enables one to set up correctly for next turn. Thanks for great drills.
@jamesdunn97143 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite skiers on KZread.
@LorneVaasjo4 жыл бұрын
Might be able to hear more ov his words if the music wasn't there.
@davesmulders3931 Жыл бұрын
initiaatiooooon....then lelease.
@tinyskier62504 жыл бұрын
anyone who wants to carve on skis will pay attention to this video, it demonstrates the absolutes one must have ... balance on outside ski, edging a clean line and center of mass flexible enough to always maintain balance, what it all about ... great exercises ... great video ....
@fulvioferrari9824 жыл бұрын
turn down the soundtrack, please! ... the subject is too interesting
@barxtra6794 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this.More from him please.one of my fav skier.
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The 2nd principal holds true except for carving. When you enters carving turn you may put 50/50 weight on both legs
Moving slow. Topple. Patience. Love it!
Awesome lecture, and a little golden nugget at the end about which part of the pivoted ski skidding into the mogul does what - tip to wash tail out, centre to stop, tail to create a pinballing effect, wow!
Sweet 😊
Good job. Touched on a lot
Woooooooowww superb and awesome vidz my friend
If only it was anatomically possible for ankles to roll over like that. Even if they could, try doing it with ski boots on. He has no clue and never has.
It's Jack the youtube troll! I see he commenting negatively everywhere hahaha!
@@xm9047 How old are you, 6?
Anyone what type of skis and average ski lengths are these guys generally using in this video? I am thinking slalom skis 165 - 170cm.
short turn 165 long turn 183
2:28 Actually, you shouldn't focus on the end results, you should focus on what creates them which is the upper body positioning and the weight change. You only think about feelings in the foot after you have done the right things with your upper body to see if it worked. Then you make adjustments to your body and knees to make the skis perform as needed. If you focus on your feet or heels, you won't be skiing at all. 3:40 Everything said is 100% wrong especially this. 4:00 It is the positioning of the Upper body back in the fall line and down the hill that creates the new leg angle that puts the skis on the new edges which allows the skis to make the turns for you. You cannot do that with just your legs. 4:32 His legs are leaning over, and his skis are getting on edge because he is moving his pelvis to the side. he is positioning his upper body to create the new leg angle. At the start of a new turn, that position is down the hill and back into the fall line. You make new turns with your face, hands and chest, not your legs and feet. The last thing to happen is down below, not the first. Go back to 4:00 at .25 speed and watch the changes he makes from the top down while his skis are still crossing the hill. Nothing would have happened if he hadn't rotated his upper body to face and lean down the hill as he changed his weight from his left to right foot. When you look at a skier it Looks Like the legs are doing all the work when it is actually the upper body that dictates what happens below. You make turns from your eyes down, not from your feet up.
For me the number 1 essential to create a turn is what I do with my feet. I can stand on the smallest of slope, have a slight bend in my knees for good balance and push off, slide forward and then stop. That hasn’t been a turn yet. I don’t want to do anything with my upper body to create the turn. I want a quiet upper body. I don’t want to twist my feet either. If I do I’ll probably add upper body shoulder rotation to help the twist. Not good. Exactly the wrong movement. But I can make a very significant turn if I do two things with ONE of my feet. All I have to do is lighten the weight off one ski and tip the ski to its little toe edge. If I am sliding forward and do that tipping of one foot I will create a turn. The more I tip it the tighter the radius. After I master this movement I then add upper body movements to control/compliment the forces of the turn.
These fundamental movements I describe to create a turn come from the best ski teacher in the business, in my opinion. Harald Harb. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2F1mbywXZneXZM.html
@@iandunn9497 Actually, he is one of the worst. When he skis he does none of the things he teaches and nothing he teaches is correct. Tipping, yeah, right!
@@JB91710 oh please mate, you have one very poor demonstration of skiing on your channel where you offer commentary about facing down the hill. Not exactly revolutionary. It doesn’t matter what you think you are doing or describing, the end result is you are demonstrating skidded heel push late turns. Poor turn shape. There is no engagement of the edges above the fall line. You need plenty of what Harb has to offer. Given he has published countless books and videos, runs camps in Colorado and Austria every year, booked out months in advance with repeat customers from all over the world, (including me from Australia), I’m going to say he’s got plenty of credibility and his methods work. At 70+yrs of age with a knee and hip replacement, he’s still the best technical skier on the mountain every time he steps into his skis. Not only is he a superb skier and instructor, he has run a Colorado boot fitting shop for decades. He knows all there is to know about skiing movements and boot fitting. Here he is skiing last season. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIR5t9GfpNGpYMY.html
@@iandunn9497 "oh please mate, you have one very poor demonstration of skiing on your channel where you offer commentary about facing down the hill." My demonstration is exactly what I wanted it to be. Did you bother to REAAD the description of my intention? If I wanted to demonstrate carving, I would have. As far as having only one video, skiing and teaching it is just not that hard. My comments teach everything a person needs from beginner to racer and as far a volume, I repeat the same thing in different ways, so my method looks a lot longer than it really is. "The end result is you are demonstrating skidded heel push late turns. Poor turn shape." I AM demonstrating skidding turns because that is what 99.9% of all skiers do. I chose not to Show Off and intimidate the viewers, I wanted to show them how easy skis turn with next to no effort on their part. However, I am Not pushing my heels at all. The ski design is making those turns due to my body positioning and weight change. They are making the turns from beginning to end. "There is no engagement of the edges above the fall line.' That's because I am not Carving the turns. "You need plenty of what Harb has to offer." The Only thing Harb has to offer is his cute personality and entertainment. He is the Pied Piper and people like you are his brain-dead followers. Everything he teaches, he doesn't do when he skis. Everything the students do when they Follow him, results in the skis changing direction and going straight down the hill where they have to resort to Hockey Stops to slow down and stop. "Given he has published countless books and videos, runs camps in Colorado and Austria every year, booked out months in advance with repeat customers from all over the world, (including me from Australia), I’m going to say he’s got plenty of credibility and his methods work." He does all that to MAKE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He doesn't have credibility; he has sheep who blindly follow him because he makes them feel good. Their skis change direction when they try what he says but that is because a shaped ski will start to change direction instantly when it gets on the smallest of edges. Like you saw but didn't understand from my video. What he doesn't teach you is how to make a ski actually complete a turn to control your speed. I have never seen or heard him say one thing right. Again, everything you need to know about skiing is in my words at my one video. So, what does that make him if he needs to provide so much? An entrepreneur. "At 70+yrs of age with a knee and hip replacement, he’s still the best technical skier on the mountain every time he steps into his skis." That doesn't mean he can teach what he does. There isn't one person I have seen in my 54 years of teaching experience, who can teach skiing correctly and if you have been paying attention, I am in the comment section on just about every video on KZread, proving that. "Not only is he a superb skier and instructor, he has run a Colorado boot fitting shop for decades." Yes, and just about every time he answers a Followers question, which is a rare occasion, he tells them to buy his books and CDs and get their boots adjusted instead of simply answering their questions. That is not a Teacher. "He knows all there is to know about skiing movements and boot fitting." So, his faithful follower says. Try telling me in your own words how to make a turn from the end of one GS turn through the end of another. You can even quote him, and I will gladly disembowel whatever you come up with. P.S. This short video explains how people chose what they believe. Replace the word "Truth" with "Ski Teaching". It describes the worlds ski teaching methods and humanity perfectly. The writers wouldn't have created this scene if it wasn't. They know. kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4edzKRyXavdZ8o.html
31:30 What you feel in your feet should not be a teaching method. How you position your body to make a technically correct turn is all you need. I have never once in 54 years, told a student to think about their heel. Does telling you what your tires experience in a turn matter or just how to rotate the steering wheel? The reason you feel pressure on your heel is because there is a straight line from your leg bones to your heel. To feel pressure on the ball of your foot, you would have to manipulate your foot dramatically to bend it down in a boot that is clamping your foot in place. You teach how to ski, not describe what it looks and feels like.
Interesting comments. My husband of 34 years is an expert skier, ski race trained as well as freestyle, I am not. He doesn't know how to teach but has always told me he feels it in his feet, his feet are tired at the end of the day from gripping foot to foot etc. He also feels it in the pelvic girdle area and knows to call it a day when he uses more hip movement than he should. I couldn't understand what he was talking about until I started some land training from watching some of Tom's videos. Stand on one foot at home and you will notice that you are a lot more stable and can stand one footed longer as you concentrate on the foot contacting the ground, now do it on a wobble board. On my mountain bike I absolutely put pressure on my pedals during the descent whether one foot in banked turns or both on straight runs as I am not in the saddle and don't load the handlebars with extra weight. I've made huge improvements in both sports when I started focusing on my feet. Thanks for all your conversations on this video, I got me to think about what exactly it was that pushed me to the next level in my sports, feet.
@@debbielombard5132 Hi Debbie, Let's start with this. If his feet are hurting at the end of the day, either his boots don't fit right, or he is doing something with his feet that is making them cramp. My feet never hurt no matter what type of skiing I do. I just spent 5 hours straight carving turns at Okemo and the last thing that hurts are my feet. I felt plenty of pressure under the arch of my foot but not pain. I don't understand the pelvic girdle pain. Again, I never have pain in that area and never have. The only place I feel pain is when the front of my thighs starts to cramp up after a long hard run. At this point I will tell you that ski teaching and race teaching is done completely wrong. Since I have never skied the way that it is taught, I never feel those pains. Tom Gellie has no idea how to teach skiing or even land training. If you just listen to him speak, there is no confidence coming from him. His one-foot analogy and on a wobble board have absolutely nothing to do with skiing. Balancing on skis has nothing to do with and cannot be compared to balancing in your living room. Try balancing on a bicycle that isn't moving. What you do pedaling a bike has nothing to do with skiing other than, you can't pedal a bike unless you completely change your weight from one pedal to the other very quickly. What you feel in your feet is not the starting place, it is the end result. Where you feel pressure in your feet is also dependent on what you do with your body. When I make a parallel or carved turn, I only feel things happening with my feet After I have done things with my upper body and my weight and balance change from one foot to the other. In ski teaching methods, just about every organization focuses on what skiing looks and feels like, not on what you have to do with your upper body to allow the skis to make turns as designed. I wouldn't be suppressed at all that skiers feel a lot of pain from skiing the way they have been taught. Read all my comments on my video. Everything you need from beginner to racer is there. The Right way!
@@JB91710 Hello, thanks for the reply. I didn't say he felt pain, I said he and now we feel tired in those areas. Like any sport that uses muscles specific to the sport but not to daily life or general fitness routines you will feel more tired in some areas. I've skied for years using the "traditional" method of skiing that you are referring to, this includes two Heli-ski trips. When I say my husband is an expert skier, I'm not exaggerating, I just can't learn from my spouse. I was looking to increase my skills especially for all mountain skiing to feel more confidence in extreme conditions, that's how I found Tom's videos. Using these new methods has changed my skiing considerably and I'm really happy with how much fun it is. We skied yesterday in wet heavy non groomed snow, concentrating on my feet and pelvis-core, I lost my fluidity every time I lost focus on those two areas. I could quickly get my balance back without stopping by refocusing my intentions. Last Friday we skied perfectly groomed snow on piste: you are correct the skis do the work when you topple over them, so much fun! That was a long skiing day, I could have done that from dawn to dusk, mostly short turns with some big GS turns added in for fun when appropriate. The skis do all of the heavy lifting in those conditions. You are also correct about your hands; I have a lazy right hand while skiing, it's magnified off piste, and did a lot of work yesterday to try to fix this problem and make it effortless. I'll take all your suggestions to the hill today and see what I feel. As a side note I keep my upper body weight forward not from the shoulders or upper body, but from my pelvis and lower core. As a woman my center of gravity is different from men, and this keeps me from getting too "hippy" or in "the back seat". Thanks again, have a great day.
When you read all my comments here, DEBATE ME, tell me where and how I am wrong, not That I am wrong. My 54 years of teaching and especially my 51 years of Thinking, says I am most likely right. Here is one example of how I am right. With the creation of shaped skis, snowplow and stem turns should have been completely removed from ski teaching. They have not. They are still in mainstream ski teaching worldwide.
Snowplough should have been removed? So how exactly would you teach first timers to stop themselves, using a hockey stop? :)
29:24 The Fred Flintstone way to Make your skis change direction. You can do this, or you can just position your pelvis more into the turn to increase the leg angle and the skis will turn more.
28:06 From this traverse across the slope, this is what you should think about and do. 1. Look, down the hill to where you want to make the next turn. 2. Rotate your upper body and hands to face slightly down the hill and plant your left pole down the hill. 3. Take your weight completely off your downhill left foot and balance on your right foot. Your momentum across the slope, gravity pulling you down the hill and the design of the ski will create a new leg angle and allow the right ski to make the next turn. 29:08 Now watch him do it here.
@@deanl5832 Did you just look at the video of me "Demonstrating how little you have to move your body to allow your skis to make the turns for you" or did you READ and Comprehend what I wrote? All Tom and his playmates do is show you what skiing looks and feels like and that is NOT how you TEACH people how to understand what skiing is and what you have to do to allow your skis to make turns. In one of my comments here I said DEBATE ME. You didn't do that! All you did is say, "My heroes are better than you. You stop it or I'll tell my mommy!" You should have said it that way. It would have better described how you understood what he said in this lecture. If you even listened to his presentation, you would have noticed he has no confidence in what he says. And, if you did understand him and you think he is a great teacher, in your own words, try teaching me how to position my body and change my weight to allow my skis to make turns. I Dare you!
@deanl5832 I didn't learn one thing about skiing from what you said. That makes you a hero worshipping follower, not a thinker and surely not a teacher. Ignorance is bliss, and all you Tom followers are very blissful.
26:23 Notice the line from the arch of his left foot through his knee to his hip joint. There is No tipping of the knees or rolling of the ankle. His upper body and pelvis position in relation to the direction of his skis is what is creating an entire leg angle change which is what puts the skis on edge. it is the rotation of his entire upper body down the fall line that rotates the knee which gives the illusion that the knee is bending sideways. If you concentrate on the ankle and knee to make turns, your skis will Only change direction, they won't turn and control your speed. Straight down and across the hill to the right, straight down and across the hill to the left. 26:50 With concentration on Tipping, notice how his weight has transferred to his inside ski which is digging in and turning more than his outside ski, his ski lock onto too much edge, they jet out from under him, he sits back, and the skis go straight and stop turning. So, he has to go into the next turn to catch himself. That's what happens to You on every turn until you are going so fast you have to push your outside ski away from you, rotate your upper body into the slope in a panic stop which usually makes you spin around backwards. You don't blame him; you blame yourself and that just isn't right.
3:15 No he isn't learning any of those things. All he has been taught is how to make the skis change directing by forcing them and how to angle JUST his leg to Force a ski onto an edge. I can see Gellie's teaching method in the results of his son. The Fred Flintstone way of skiing. Force it to turn instead of letting them perform as designed. 3:40 The boy is concentrating on Just his foot and lower leg, not on the positioning of his upper body which will allow him to BALANCE on that one turning ski in order to allow the ski to make the turn for him and allow it to Complete the turn to control speed. Making turns the Gellie way or just about any ski instructor's way, will not help you on steep trails or at speed. You don't force a ski, you let a ski do what it was designed to do. 4:05 Now watch this stop. This proves that he has Not been taught how to make a proper stop or he would have. He forced his left foot to change direction by twisting his leg and foot and pushing it away with his hip which created a perpendicular angle to the slope to flatten the ski instead of edge it and also caused his right foot to stay pointed straight down the hill with his upper body weight over that ski instead of his left ski. You don't HAVE to steer or force a ski!!! People who do and Teach that are the ones who don't know how a ski is supposed to work. 8:12 Ski is Not this complicated. Do you need to know and understand how your car makes a turn beyond rotating the steering wheel? Tails like this are not going to make you a better skier, they are just going to confuse you which makes you feel you need more of these lectures! Think about that. "The more complicated a person makes his subject sound, the less he knows about it." It's called, Deflection! 26:08 You know how Gellie and all ski instructors talk about tipping your knees and rolling your ankles over? Does it look like he is doing that in this turn? No, he isn't. 25:50 He has positioned his entire upper body, from his head down to his pelvis, back in the fall line or straight down the hill while his skis are still trying to cross the slope. That is creating the new LEG angle and rotating his knees that is putting his skis on edge. It is physically impossible to roll your ankles over especially in ski boots. You don't tip your knees to the side; your hip joint and knee ROTATE while your upper body is trying to go down the hill while your skis are still crossing it. Stand up now and try it. You are completing a turn to the left on your right foot. Rotate your upper body to go to your right and watch your body twist right down to your knees. Take your weight off your right foot and you will fall to your right. Notice the left leg angle change. Combined with the twisting of your knees, your weight will be loaded on the inside edge of the tip of your left foot and that right turn will be made by the ski, not by you. The LAST thing that happens in a turn is your skis rolling over and your skis turning, not the first!!! You think about skiing down a hill with your hands and chest, not your feet. I'm not going through this entire lecture; I'm going to get to the point. All you need is to become confident balancing on one ski at a time while positioning your body to allow your skis to make turns and make minor adjustments during the turn to keep your track and speed where you want it. Think of standing on the pedals of a bicycle and pedaling. Point the front tire down the hill and get off the downhill pedal. To slow down, press the brake pedal which is the tongue of the boots and rotate your knees into the slope. That bends the tips more and the tails slide around to slow you down. THAT"S IT! That's all you need to know about skiing whether you are a student or ski instructor! Understanding skiing is not hard! In today's teaching climate, learning is!
Movement center of mass (hip joint) down the fall line releases the skis for next turn
Great to learn about this. Thanks for sharing
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It was interesting to learn that jamming my shins into the fronts of my boots resulted in more weight felt on my heels. But wouldn't the leverage from bending the boot boot put greater pressure on the front of the skis, regardless of where it's felt on the foot?
Its all about control and feeling. Aplying pressure just on the front of the boot is hard to get how much of actual pressure is applyed its more like a guess thing. Its way more efective to have feeling in your foot, also pressure applyed just from the boot its delayed, pressure from your foot has way quicker reponce. Ith has to be combined shin to front of the boot ant your foot.
Where you feel "Pressure" in your foot is way less important than where your upper body positioning is and the results in the radius of the turn. Contrary to everyone's beliefs, skiing and turning originate in this order. The rotation of your eyes, hands, chest, (weight change from your downhill to uphill foot), pelvis, thighs and knees, down the hill. Notice I said nothing about knee tipping or ankle rolling. Those are the results or symptums of what I described. You don't teach the end results, you teach how to get there. if you do, you will have no speed control because all your ski will do is change direction, they won't bend and turn. 25:50 What you see here, he doesn't teach you. He only teaches you from your knees down. That's like trying to teach you how to turn a car by telling you about the steering mechanism instead of what the car needs from you, rotate the steering wheel.
Nice commentary on skidding vs edging and balance. It has me thinking about correcting over skidding in a skiers short turns with balance - cool! Thanks Tom!
Nice takeaway. I feel good that this is what you learnt from the lecture
Yes but, you weren't taught How to position your upper body and make adjustments in it to move from skidding to edging. Not the correct way anyway. You don't force it, you let it. You don't recreate what it looks like, you do what will make it look like that.
Brilliant. The level of detail forced myself to really think about what I’m doing rather than just chasing an adrenaline rush each time I’m on the mountain
But what you do with this information will dictate the results and the information you recieved will not get you the results you want.
Glad to hear it Greg
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Going to be a great season
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I always find this ski terminology, as used in the second half of this video, to be very nebulous: "steering, steering angle, guiding, edge angle, rotate more, edge more". All apparently to create a simple turn. "Steering" perhaps being the worst in terms of creating understanding. What the hell does steering mean? Perhaps it's just a less agricultural way of saying "twist" your feet. It's the same language constantly used in ski schools the world over that leaves the student non the wiser. As I say, it effectively conveys a twisting of the feet as a primary movement. Steering, twisting, rotation = z shaped turns for most skiers. Rotation of course brings shoulder rotation in many skier's efforts to perform the steering/twisting of feet and leg movements. No wonder there are so few decent skiers on the mountain. The instructor in the video then shows the ski turn release with an extension and stands up, pushing his center of mass away from the snow. Another sure way to screw up a skier's balance, and to bank a turn with no angulation and too much weight ending up on the inside ski.
Exactly. Just like driving a car. Twist the twisting wheel in the direction you want to go. Steering is just so confusing.
GOOD FOR YOU IAN!!! Read my comment above and at my video if you want skiing described in words you can understand.
@@jamietouchie1280 Read my comment above and at my video if you want skiing described in words you can understand.
Great skiing
Good tips Josh & Harry
Great instruction👍
Sadly, it seems that boot manufacturers tend to market ski boots for world cup racers. An average skier, who gets out a dozen times a year is not well served by a super stiff boot with a lot of forward lean built in. As you point out, there is a sweet spot of forward lean that allows the skeleton to carry the load. In many of the high end boots, this factory setting is too much. Also, an overly stiff boot prevents one from absorbing deformations in the snow efficiently. In order to absorb, you have to "hinge" at two points. I think it's best if you can primarily hinge at the ankle and knee, as that keeps you fairly upright with a good range of motion. With a locked ankle, you have to hinge at the knee and hip. This forces you to get into a more "seated" position from where your CG tends to shift back into a more "butt back, chest forward" stance which is hard to hold and has a smaller range within which you can move to extend and retract to absorb shock.
Every manufacturer makes boots to work with all levels of skier. You HAVE to shop in your ability range.
NOTHING could be further from true. Have a look at the Nordica HF with shell flex from 90 -110.
What a great video . Amazing skier
All the coaches I know put emphasis on crushing the boot... deforming the shell...up to warping the dinsole through forward leverage. Frightening and uncomfortable the difference in ski design reaction is palpable and true dynamic control is impossible otherwise. The art and science of skiing is knowing the chemistry going on under the ski. Above that foundation is all the differentiated levels of time dilations that stack up countered to ground force reactions.
"The art and science of skiing is knowing the chemistry going on under the ski." Is the "Art" of driving a car in knowing what is going on in your rack and pinion steering system? No! The art of driving is in doing what the car needs from you. Same with skis.
Great principles. Thanks for posting much appreciated.
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@Myles Zayd Definitely, I've been using Instaflixxer for since december myself =)
This video is excellent. Generally I agree to your teaching. 1. Stance. Let me help you a little. There is a little contradiction about the boot-tongue pressure! You say that a skier should have no pressure on the tongue, then you say that the skier should have a pressure. I would say that having a tongue pressure is essential, the most important skill at all downhill skiing. The dorsal flexion of the ankles creates it, yes but there is also another way, by putting your COM ahead of the middle point of your skis. And you need both ways during an optimal carved turn. After apex you use the dorsal flex, before apex you use the other way. Steering the skis by the COM is easier to learn and understand, and I think that this way is more important for beginners and intermediate skiers. 2. Agree!!! Modern ski-instructors (USA, Japan etc) do not care so much for the ski pressures. I love your way of thinking here! The negative part of this is at the transitions of the cross under carved turns. At this point you should have higher pressure on the new inside ski during the start of the turn. But I think, just as you do, that beginners and intermediate skiers should not care for this until they learn about cross under turns. 3. Here you have an important issue!! Parallel turns need to be started by 2 basic principles. One is the body projection to the fall-line, two is the edgings of the skis. Also at skidded parallel turns you must also create both parts to some degree, combined with separation and control of the pressure differences of the 2 skis. If you do not make the body projection, you will end up in a braking process, like a hockey-stop, because your COM will stay on the hillside of the skis (on the hillside of the middle points of your skis) during the whole turn. Interested of my way of thinking? I have written books about learning of downhill skiing.
In my book Mountains, trees and Water I out line the origins of how and why we ski the way we do. In North America it all came down to my Grand mother who in1960 bought each of her children 100 shares in the newly proposed Big Mountain Ski Area my Dad helped found. That year they hired Austrian racer Toni Mott as the first ski school director. He quickly assembled the regional schools together consolidating PSIA. "The New Way to Ski" by Willie Schifler was the text book my Dad gave me to learn about skiing from. Today this is more relevant than ever as PSIA diverged from recognizing good skiing long ago to prefer weaker stylistic postures and preference to narcissistic inferior instructors as clinicians.
I like the idea of only lifting the inside ski until near the fall line rather than lifting during whole turn. This enables one to set up correctly for next turn. Thanks for great drills.
One of my favorite skiers on KZread.
Might be able to hear more ov his words if the music wasn't there.
initiaatiooooon....then lelease.
anyone who wants to carve on skis will pay attention to this video, it demonstrates the absolutes one must have ... balance on outside ski, edging a clean line and center of mass flexible enough to always maintain balance, what it all about ... great exercises ... great video ....
turn down the soundtrack, please! ... the subject is too interesting
Thank you for this.More from him please.one of my fav skier.