Proud catholic here Mary is not worshiped.... no one can love mary more then Jesus and Jesus doesn't worship her so how can I seeing how I can't love her more then Jesus and Jesus doesn't worship her
@phillipgriffiths962423 күн бұрын
Sin is sin, there are not two categories, this is RC nonsense!
@phillipgriffiths962423 күн бұрын
The Catholic doesn’t understand Scripture!
@phillipgriffiths962423 күн бұрын
Sanctification ceases with death of the body. In heaven we will not have a physical body. This will only materialise at the resurrection on the last day. The believer in heaven, in the intermediate state, will be no more perfect than he is now, in Christ!
@TruthHasSpokenАй бұрын
*Best part of the debate:* when JW admitted, reluctantly, having danced around the answer, that final sanctification occurrs between death and heaven. VERY Catholic! That's what Catholic's teach in part about purgatory. JW AGREED with the Pope that we are transformed with a "transforming encounter with Christ." The problem with JW is he has taken a Catholic book, the bible, and has decapitated it from the faith from which it came, believing based on a 16th c man-made doctrine of sola scripture that he has the authority to interpret on his own.
@MGR1900Ай бұрын
James White comes across as extremely defensive. Red flag.
@davidlagesse33982 ай бұрын
The Roman Catholic Church assembled the Holy Bible from around 200 existing Books of the day in 325 AD. Constantine the Great called the First Council of Nicaea, which was composed of three hundred religious leaders. Three centuries after Jesus lived; this council was given the task of separating divinely inspired writings from those of questionable origin. Those questionable existing books were tossed aside as having doubtful authenticity or not Gospel Truth. Pope Damasus I, known as Damasus of Rome, was the bishop of Rome from October 366 to his death. He presided over the Council of Rome of 382 which determined the canon or official list of sacred scripture. He spoke out against major heresies, thus solidifying the faith of the Catholic Church, and encouraged the production of the Vulgate Bible with his support for Jerome. Then the Catholic Church confirmed the Canon as OFFICIAL. So what were the “Sola Scriptura” people reading before 325 AD? It was NOT the Bible, it did not exist yet! BTW… Neither did those people exist until after 1517! The Catholic Church is the only authority that guarantees the accuracy and inerrancy of the Bible itself. It was the Catholic Church that selected the books of the New Testament and defined the canon of the Bible. Those who believe that the Bible is reliable, are in fact relying on the Catholic Church’s testimony that the New Testament books accurately reflect the faith & teachings of the Apostles, which is in turn grounded in the faith & teachings of Christ. There were many other writings available that were NOT selected to be a part of the Bible because their contents were flawed in some way. The Church itself made the selection many years after the death of the Apostles, based on its living witness to the Faith, guaranteed by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This is the same church that through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, decided what would compose the New Testament after living the faith for longer than America has been a country. Protestants don’t believe in Scripture; they believe in anti-Catholicism.
@Rob-mr1vkАй бұрын
Amen Amen Amen
@ThePhilosorpheus2 ай бұрын
So White did 6 debates on this subject and he still cant address the core Catholic claim that is the whole premise of our rejection of Sola Scriptura? "The Catholic Church has never defined a single word by Jesus that is found outside of Scripture", he argues. Duh, this only proves that Catholicism is faithful to Scripture and our whole point is that Scripture itself has been defined by the Catholic Church in the first place! Its boring to hear his arguments because he never addresses the premise of his opponent. Unless he tells me where else Scripture came from Im simply not convinced by anything else he says.
@Jando859_2 ай бұрын
Where do these Catholic vs Protestant debates take place? I would love to attend one!
@Morethangood.2 ай бұрын
Wow… I really do respect Jimmy Akin.. a lot, I believe him to be a GREAT debater.. one of the best for the catholic position and I would never discredit him or his work. Nonetheless I believe James won this debate. The “Overload” tactic referred to by Jimmy throwing away All of James rebuttals to a curb and then to and then proceed with his slide show I believe to be un-charitable.. it’s almost like deflecting and then just doing what you want! The truth of the matter was that it’s Catholic Answers who stated they wanted the rebuttal periods to be of that time. So it’s not like James got to pick that short time of a rebuttal period Catholic Answers did! I feel like I’d have loved to see Jimmy at least respond to one! To disregard it all and then proceed with whatever he wanted didn’t seem right!! Nonetheless I don’t want any of my Catholics to think I didn’t like Jimmy .. I just think we should take a honest approach and..I believe for that same reason on top of the play on words .. claiming James to not define words etc. but great debate by both. Jimmy is excellent when it comes to cross fire. And honestly I wouldn’t have no other people debate on this topic except for these two! Excellent debaters but I believe James won..
@MajorExpo2 ай бұрын
White really tries to quickly run by several untruths, hoping that no one will catch...1. Catholics can't define tradition. huh? 2. Peter was not preiminent...it has been clearly shiwn he was.
@MajorExpo2 ай бұрын
I wish that Sola Scriptura worked, because it does sound convincing...but it evidently does not work...protestants cannot agree on much....even a basic sacraments like baptism...some sprinkle, some immerse, some believe it regenerates, some think it is only symbolic...some believe babies should be baptised, some don't...abd the solution is to break off and form a new church. The protestant principal.
@3isallwesee2 ай бұрын
Who is James White? I thought his name was Jameel White? maybe i was informed wrong...
@k7stingray2 ай бұрын
Akin's new version of Catholicism reminds me of the Mormon new version of Mormonism. When the Roman church completely collapses into liberalism, you'll see Akin and other Roman cult apologists out there arguing this is what they've always taught and believed. I'm sure they will join hands with all the heretical so-called protestants and sing kumbaya all the way to hell. May God have mercy and save some of them.
@charlescatterall9492 ай бұрын
I agree with James White that we know what Jesus and the Apostles TAUGHT by reading the New Testament. But we cannot know what Jesus and the Apostles MEANT by reading the New Testament. To know what Jesus and the Apostles MEANT, we need a continuing, authoritative, interpreting/teaching office, which the Catholic Church calls the Magisterium (meaning Teacher). Do Jesus and the Apostles want us to know what they MEANT by what they taught and wrote? Or, did Jesus and the Apostles want us to disagree about authority, salvation, justification, etc.? If Jesus and the Apostles want us to agree with one another on these important teachings, then it seems likely that they would have instituted an authoritative, interpreting/teaching office to that end. One more question, where in Scripture does it teach Sola Scriptura? If Scripture does not explicitly teach this doctrine, then we are relying on post-Apostolic authorities to interpret the Scriptures to teach that. We would all like to have a good answer to that question.
@Morethangood.2 ай бұрын
A lot of people don’t like James White…. Considering he’s been the biggest proponent to the catholic faith coming from the Protestant side (when it comes to debates) for the last 30+ years… nonetheless I feel as though there’s some distastefulness for James white and a lot of people undermine this man’s work.. or his skill as a debater. Jimmy Akin is a GREAT debater.. but James is as well. I just pray that we can appreciate these moments!
@TruthHasSpokenАй бұрын
James only has his interpretation of scripture and there are reasonable understandings of scripture that differ from his, not only from Catholics, but Orthodox, Lutherans, and other protestants. JW can only go back to and reread scripture and his fallible interpretation of it as there is no authority in the Church of James to decide who is right. He has taken the bible and has decapitated it from the faith from which it came, based on the 16th c man-made invention of sola scriptura and the teaching of a Catholic lawyer named Calvin. The result is much doctrinal chaos, confusion, and division from both Catholicism and in many cases from the rest of Christianity.
@AveChristusRex7892 ай бұрын
Ouch! Akin did a number one White here
@t.d63792 ай бұрын
Never seen someone lose so many debates in a row as James White it's ridiculous.
@t.d63792 ай бұрын
Also, remember every time Dr. White speaks that he's a five point Calvinist and his dialogues are just silly.
@idankpoaugustine19832 ай бұрын
@@t.d6379 his PhD is fake so it's actually Mr. James White.
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
he won the debate though
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
@idankpoaugustine1983 this is false. he has 3 doctorates. one from an accredited northwestern university, the other two are questioned, due to the university not being old enough to be accredited yet. however he is a professor at seminary and is well established as a textual criticism scholar and the language of koine greek. stop trying discredit him and actually engage with his arguments.
@joshanderson75928 күн бұрын
@idankpoaugustine1983 proof? Na just a strawman cause you don't have the knowledge to actually refute any of his beliefs. 😂
@t.d63792 ай бұрын
Another typical Catholic W
@gto21112 ай бұрын
26:30
@gto21112 ай бұрын
57:00
@Theparishioner_2 ай бұрын
It’s getting embarrassing for James White aka “#1 Catholic Evangelist”
@mattbernacki92822 ай бұрын
Nobody has brought more converts to Catholicism in the last 20 years than James White lol
@Theparishioner_2 ай бұрын
@@mattbernacki9282 now I understand the Spanish conquistador look he is going for haha
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
i dont understand how james white lost this debate??
@mattbernacki92822 ай бұрын
@@kylecityy all he did was deflect and bring up issues other than what the debate topic was. Jimmy called it out for what it was and James just laughs it off. Classic what about ism
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
@mattbernacki9282 i dont think james points were out of context. infact i think jimmy akin claimed james white was overloading his argument, and besides jimmy akin atleast trying to respond to james white he used premade slides for rebuttals. almost as if it was a presentation, not a debate. he did not engage with james Whites' arguments at all, and when he did he said he "doesnt want to argue with words" making the debate pointless. also jimmy akin used a common denominator fallacy in his cross examination period to prove that james white and his position are not disputable with one another.
@mariongarcia81832 ай бұрын
Ah yes, another James white regurgitation of arguments we already heard 🥳
@Rob-mr1vkАй бұрын
he's a stubborn anti catholic accomplishing nothing except his tirade against the true Church
@sneakysnake23302 ай бұрын
Kind of scummy on James White’s part to use his opening statement as a preemptive rebuttal to Jimmy Akin’s opening statement rather than actually presenting his own positive case, as is the point of an opening statement.
@t.d63792 ай бұрын
That's his style. He's been taking losses for years on this subject and he knows he can't win a straight debate.
@billrupert75602 ай бұрын
This debate was really embarrassing for James White
@idankpoaugustine19832 ай бұрын
Especially the 1:22:24 mark.
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
i thought james won
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
@idankpoaugustine1983 just listened to that part. im not too sure how that proved james white was wrong
@idankpoaugustine19832 ай бұрын
@@kylecityy he conceded that between our death and resurrection, there is a cleansing which is the Catholic position on it. He conceded his opponent's position, that's how.
@kylecityy2 ай бұрын
@idankpoaugustine1983 first of all james white agreed that theres a difference between living as a human on earth vs being in heaven and he did not take any sort of view of purgatory. every single reformer and majority of protestant scholars agree that faith alone does not entail purgatory/cleansing of sins in that sense, while also noting the change of the soul from sinful to being in God's presence being able to not intend to do sin in heaven. i dont think that made james white win or lose the debate because he clearly still had the disagreement and distinctions explained
@idankpoaugustine19832 ай бұрын
0:20 introduction by Brian Gunther (Moderator). 6:00 James White (Calvinist/Reformed party) takes to the stage. 21:30 Jimmy Akin (Catholic Answers apologist) takes to the stage. 37:15 Jimmy Akin praises James White's shoes. 37:30 James White returns. 45:00 Jimmy Akin again. 52:25 James White. 56:30 Jimmy Akin. 1:01:29 Apology and prayer before the break. 1:09:04 James White cross-examines Jimmy Akin. 1:19:14 JA crossexamines JW. 1:22:24 JA gets JW to admit that final santification happens between death and heaven. 1:29:30 Q & A. 2:02:45 JW's closing statement. 2:07:45 JA's closing statement. 2:13:30 Announcements from the moderator.
@jowardseph2 ай бұрын
What kind of shoes were they though????
@billrupert75602 ай бұрын
Thank you for reuploading this. What happened to the original video?
@nelidascott69172 ай бұрын
Akin’s defense is so weak, sorry
@mattbernacki92822 ай бұрын
Show me an Early Church Father that professed Sola Scriptura. Just because you didn't understand Akin's argument doesn't mean it's weak.
@nelidascott69172 ай бұрын
@@mattbernacki9282 Why do you assume that I don't understand Akin's argument? He didn't present any evidence whatsoever that some dogmas that RC uphold such as White already mentioned are built upon the teachings of the apostles and the prophets. Eph 2:20
@mattbernacki92822 ай бұрын
@@nelidascott6917 except that he did, he mentioned that the basic belief for all infallible doctrines of the Church can be found in the teachings of the Early Church, before the New Testament was even codified. Whereas Sola Scriptura, by James' own admission, is not found.
@nelidascott69172 ай бұрын
@@mattbernacki9282 I'm sorry I have to disagree with you on this one, not really sure if we listened to the same debate. Purgatory, Mary's veneration or assumption, indulgences and others are not founded on the apostles teachings nor they cohere to the rest of Scriptures. The bible or the word of God is my only standard, this is the problem if you put fallible men on a pedestal and teach doctrines that are not according to Scriptures and treat them as infallible. I think we can just agree to disagree but I hope you place a higher value to the word of God. Sola Scriptura simply means relying solely on God's word as we are commanded, or else we make up man made doctrines that doesn't align to God's word 🙏
@mattbernacki92822 ай бұрын
@@nelidascott6917 because you have a false assumption that only the Bible is an authority, you naturally will reject everything else. But again, even Dr. White admits that is not true and admits that Sola Scriptura is a man made doctrine. You can't back it up with Scripture and so I have to ask you: what debate did you watch? Your preconceptions are not supported by the historical Christian faith.
@HendrickAlbina2 ай бұрын
If Sola Scriptura is True then we don't need James White.
@JeanRausis2 ай бұрын
Common Akin W.
@TimHamilton-hy5jt2 ай бұрын
lol did you even bother to watch the two part debate, or are you just catholic lmao
@mattbernacki92822 ай бұрын
He's awesome. Such a wealth of knowledge.
@t.d63792 ай бұрын
And another L for Dr. White, I've never seen a debater lose so many debates especially on the same subjects. He does debate a lot though so I give him respect for that it takes courage.
@Rob-mr1vkАй бұрын
@@t.d6379 but he thought he did well in all of his debates :)
@TheologyDigestChannel2 ай бұрын
Introduction and Opening Remarks: [0:00 - 5:00] Introduction of the debate, debaters, and format. Opening Statements: [5:00 - 20:15] James White delivers his opening statement. [20:16 - 35:30] Jimmy Akin delivers his opening statement. Rebuttals: [35:31 - 42:00] First rebuttal by James White. [42:01 - 48:30] First rebuttal by Jimmy Akin. [48:31 - 54:00] Second rebuttal by James White. [54:01 - 1:00:00] Second rebuttal by Jimmy Akin. Cross-Examination: [1:00:01 - 1:10:00] James White cross-examines Jimmy Akin. [1:10:01 - 1:20:00] Jimmy Akin cross-examines James White. Audience Q&A Session: [1:20:01 - 1:40:00] Audience questions are posed to both debaters. Closing Statements: [1:40:01 - 1:45:00] Closing statement by James White. [1:45:01 - 1:50:00] Closing statement by Jimmy Akin. Debate Conclusion: [1:50:01 - 1:55:00] Final remarks and thank yous.
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Proud catholic here Mary is not worshiped.... no one can love mary more then Jesus and Jesus doesn't worship her so how can I seeing how I can't love her more then Jesus and Jesus doesn't worship her
Sin is sin, there are not two categories, this is RC nonsense!
The Catholic doesn’t understand Scripture!
Sanctification ceases with death of the body. In heaven we will not have a physical body. This will only materialise at the resurrection on the last day. The believer in heaven, in the intermediate state, will be no more perfect than he is now, in Christ!
*Best part of the debate:* when JW admitted, reluctantly, having danced around the answer, that final sanctification occurrs between death and heaven. VERY Catholic! That's what Catholic's teach in part about purgatory. JW AGREED with the Pope that we are transformed with a "transforming encounter with Christ." The problem with JW is he has taken a Catholic book, the bible, and has decapitated it from the faith from which it came, believing based on a 16th c man-made doctrine of sola scripture that he has the authority to interpret on his own.
James White comes across as extremely defensive. Red flag.
The Roman Catholic Church assembled the Holy Bible from around 200 existing Books of the day in 325 AD. Constantine the Great called the First Council of Nicaea, which was composed of three hundred religious leaders. Three centuries after Jesus lived; this council was given the task of separating divinely inspired writings from those of questionable origin. Those questionable existing books were tossed aside as having doubtful authenticity or not Gospel Truth. Pope Damasus I, known as Damasus of Rome, was the bishop of Rome from October 366 to his death. He presided over the Council of Rome of 382 which determined the canon or official list of sacred scripture. He spoke out against major heresies, thus solidifying the faith of the Catholic Church, and encouraged the production of the Vulgate Bible with his support for Jerome. Then the Catholic Church confirmed the Canon as OFFICIAL. So what were the “Sola Scriptura” people reading before 325 AD? It was NOT the Bible, it did not exist yet! BTW… Neither did those people exist until after 1517! The Catholic Church is the only authority that guarantees the accuracy and inerrancy of the Bible itself. It was the Catholic Church that selected the books of the New Testament and defined the canon of the Bible. Those who believe that the Bible is reliable, are in fact relying on the Catholic Church’s testimony that the New Testament books accurately reflect the faith & teachings of the Apostles, which is in turn grounded in the faith & teachings of Christ. There were many other writings available that were NOT selected to be a part of the Bible because their contents were flawed in some way. The Church itself made the selection many years after the death of the Apostles, based on its living witness to the Faith, guaranteed by the guidance of the Holy Spirit. This is the same church that through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, decided what would compose the New Testament after living the faith for longer than America has been a country. Protestants don’t believe in Scripture; they believe in anti-Catholicism.
Amen Amen Amen
So White did 6 debates on this subject and he still cant address the core Catholic claim that is the whole premise of our rejection of Sola Scriptura? "The Catholic Church has never defined a single word by Jesus that is found outside of Scripture", he argues. Duh, this only proves that Catholicism is faithful to Scripture and our whole point is that Scripture itself has been defined by the Catholic Church in the first place! Its boring to hear his arguments because he never addresses the premise of his opponent. Unless he tells me where else Scripture came from Im simply not convinced by anything else he says.
Where do these Catholic vs Protestant debates take place? I would love to attend one!
Wow… I really do respect Jimmy Akin.. a lot, I believe him to be a GREAT debater.. one of the best for the catholic position and I would never discredit him or his work. Nonetheless I believe James won this debate. The “Overload” tactic referred to by Jimmy throwing away All of James rebuttals to a curb and then to and then proceed with his slide show I believe to be un-charitable.. it’s almost like deflecting and then just doing what you want! The truth of the matter was that it’s Catholic Answers who stated they wanted the rebuttal periods to be of that time. So it’s not like James got to pick that short time of a rebuttal period Catholic Answers did! I feel like I’d have loved to see Jimmy at least respond to one! To disregard it all and then proceed with whatever he wanted didn’t seem right!! Nonetheless I don’t want any of my Catholics to think I didn’t like Jimmy .. I just think we should take a honest approach and..I believe for that same reason on top of the play on words .. claiming James to not define words etc. but great debate by both. Jimmy is excellent when it comes to cross fire. And honestly I wouldn’t have no other people debate on this topic except for these two! Excellent debaters but I believe James won..
White really tries to quickly run by several untruths, hoping that no one will catch...1. Catholics can't define tradition. huh? 2. Peter was not preiminent...it has been clearly shiwn he was.
I wish that Sola Scriptura worked, because it does sound convincing...but it evidently does not work...protestants cannot agree on much....even a basic sacraments like baptism...some sprinkle, some immerse, some believe it regenerates, some think it is only symbolic...some believe babies should be baptised, some don't...abd the solution is to break off and form a new church. The protestant principal.
Who is James White? I thought his name was Jameel White? maybe i was informed wrong...
Akin's new version of Catholicism reminds me of the Mormon new version of Mormonism. When the Roman church completely collapses into liberalism, you'll see Akin and other Roman cult apologists out there arguing this is what they've always taught and believed. I'm sure they will join hands with all the heretical so-called protestants and sing kumbaya all the way to hell. May God have mercy and save some of them.
I agree with James White that we know what Jesus and the Apostles TAUGHT by reading the New Testament. But we cannot know what Jesus and the Apostles MEANT by reading the New Testament. To know what Jesus and the Apostles MEANT, we need a continuing, authoritative, interpreting/teaching office, which the Catholic Church calls the Magisterium (meaning Teacher). Do Jesus and the Apostles want us to know what they MEANT by what they taught and wrote? Or, did Jesus and the Apostles want us to disagree about authority, salvation, justification, etc.? If Jesus and the Apostles want us to agree with one another on these important teachings, then it seems likely that they would have instituted an authoritative, interpreting/teaching office to that end. One more question, where in Scripture does it teach Sola Scriptura? If Scripture does not explicitly teach this doctrine, then we are relying on post-Apostolic authorities to interpret the Scriptures to teach that. We would all like to have a good answer to that question.
A lot of people don’t like James White…. Considering he’s been the biggest proponent to the catholic faith coming from the Protestant side (when it comes to debates) for the last 30+ years… nonetheless I feel as though there’s some distastefulness for James white and a lot of people undermine this man’s work.. or his skill as a debater. Jimmy Akin is a GREAT debater.. but James is as well. I just pray that we can appreciate these moments!
James only has his interpretation of scripture and there are reasonable understandings of scripture that differ from his, not only from Catholics, but Orthodox, Lutherans, and other protestants. JW can only go back to and reread scripture and his fallible interpretation of it as there is no authority in the Church of James to decide who is right. He has taken the bible and has decapitated it from the faith from which it came, based on the 16th c man-made invention of sola scriptura and the teaching of a Catholic lawyer named Calvin. The result is much doctrinal chaos, confusion, and division from both Catholicism and in many cases from the rest of Christianity.
Ouch! Akin did a number one White here
Never seen someone lose so many debates in a row as James White it's ridiculous.
Also, remember every time Dr. White speaks that he's a five point Calvinist and his dialogues are just silly.
@@t.d6379 his PhD is fake so it's actually Mr. James White.
he won the debate though
@idankpoaugustine1983 this is false. he has 3 doctorates. one from an accredited northwestern university, the other two are questioned, due to the university not being old enough to be accredited yet. however he is a professor at seminary and is well established as a textual criticism scholar and the language of koine greek. stop trying discredit him and actually engage with his arguments.
@idankpoaugustine1983 proof? Na just a strawman cause you don't have the knowledge to actually refute any of his beliefs. 😂
Another typical Catholic W
26:30
57:00
It’s getting embarrassing for James White aka “#1 Catholic Evangelist”
Nobody has brought more converts to Catholicism in the last 20 years than James White lol
@@mattbernacki9282 now I understand the Spanish conquistador look he is going for haha
i dont understand how james white lost this debate??
@@kylecityy all he did was deflect and bring up issues other than what the debate topic was. Jimmy called it out for what it was and James just laughs it off. Classic what about ism
@mattbernacki9282 i dont think james points were out of context. infact i think jimmy akin claimed james white was overloading his argument, and besides jimmy akin atleast trying to respond to james white he used premade slides for rebuttals. almost as if it was a presentation, not a debate. he did not engage with james Whites' arguments at all, and when he did he said he "doesnt want to argue with words" making the debate pointless. also jimmy akin used a common denominator fallacy in his cross examination period to prove that james white and his position are not disputable with one another.
Ah yes, another James white regurgitation of arguments we already heard 🥳
he's a stubborn anti catholic accomplishing nothing except his tirade against the true Church
Kind of scummy on James White’s part to use his opening statement as a preemptive rebuttal to Jimmy Akin’s opening statement rather than actually presenting his own positive case, as is the point of an opening statement.
That's his style. He's been taking losses for years on this subject and he knows he can't win a straight debate.
This debate was really embarrassing for James White
Especially the 1:22:24 mark.
i thought james won
@idankpoaugustine1983 just listened to that part. im not too sure how that proved james white was wrong
@@kylecityy he conceded that between our death and resurrection, there is a cleansing which is the Catholic position on it. He conceded his opponent's position, that's how.
@idankpoaugustine1983 first of all james white agreed that theres a difference between living as a human on earth vs being in heaven and he did not take any sort of view of purgatory. every single reformer and majority of protestant scholars agree that faith alone does not entail purgatory/cleansing of sins in that sense, while also noting the change of the soul from sinful to being in God's presence being able to not intend to do sin in heaven. i dont think that made james white win or lose the debate because he clearly still had the disagreement and distinctions explained
0:20 introduction by Brian Gunther (Moderator). 6:00 James White (Calvinist/Reformed party) takes to the stage. 21:30 Jimmy Akin (Catholic Answers apologist) takes to the stage. 37:15 Jimmy Akin praises James White's shoes. 37:30 James White returns. 45:00 Jimmy Akin again. 52:25 James White. 56:30 Jimmy Akin. 1:01:29 Apology and prayer before the break. 1:09:04 James White cross-examines Jimmy Akin. 1:19:14 JA crossexamines JW. 1:22:24 JA gets JW to admit that final santification happens between death and heaven. 1:29:30 Q & A. 2:02:45 JW's closing statement. 2:07:45 JA's closing statement. 2:13:30 Announcements from the moderator.
What kind of shoes were they though????
Thank you for reuploading this. What happened to the original video?
Akin’s defense is so weak, sorry
Show me an Early Church Father that professed Sola Scriptura. Just because you didn't understand Akin's argument doesn't mean it's weak.
@@mattbernacki9282 Why do you assume that I don't understand Akin's argument? He didn't present any evidence whatsoever that some dogmas that RC uphold such as White already mentioned are built upon the teachings of the apostles and the prophets. Eph 2:20
@@nelidascott6917 except that he did, he mentioned that the basic belief for all infallible doctrines of the Church can be found in the teachings of the Early Church, before the New Testament was even codified. Whereas Sola Scriptura, by James' own admission, is not found.
@@mattbernacki9282 I'm sorry I have to disagree with you on this one, not really sure if we listened to the same debate. Purgatory, Mary's veneration or assumption, indulgences and others are not founded on the apostles teachings nor they cohere to the rest of Scriptures. The bible or the word of God is my only standard, this is the problem if you put fallible men on a pedestal and teach doctrines that are not according to Scriptures and treat them as infallible. I think we can just agree to disagree but I hope you place a higher value to the word of God. Sola Scriptura simply means relying solely on God's word as we are commanded, or else we make up man made doctrines that doesn't align to God's word 🙏
@@nelidascott6917 because you have a false assumption that only the Bible is an authority, you naturally will reject everything else. But again, even Dr. White admits that is not true and admits that Sola Scriptura is a man made doctrine. You can't back it up with Scripture and so I have to ask you: what debate did you watch? Your preconceptions are not supported by the historical Christian faith.
If Sola Scriptura is True then we don't need James White.
Common Akin W.
lol did you even bother to watch the two part debate, or are you just catholic lmao
He's awesome. Such a wealth of knowledge.
And another L for Dr. White, I've never seen a debater lose so many debates especially on the same subjects. He does debate a lot though so I give him respect for that it takes courage.
@@t.d6379 but he thought he did well in all of his debates :)
Introduction and Opening Remarks: [0:00 - 5:00] Introduction of the debate, debaters, and format. Opening Statements: [5:00 - 20:15] James White delivers his opening statement. [20:16 - 35:30] Jimmy Akin delivers his opening statement. Rebuttals: [35:31 - 42:00] First rebuttal by James White. [42:01 - 48:30] First rebuttal by Jimmy Akin. [48:31 - 54:00] Second rebuttal by James White. [54:01 - 1:00:00] Second rebuttal by Jimmy Akin. Cross-Examination: [1:00:01 - 1:10:00] James White cross-examines Jimmy Akin. [1:10:01 - 1:20:00] Jimmy Akin cross-examines James White. Audience Q&A Session: [1:20:01 - 1:40:00] Audience questions are posed to both debaters. Closing Statements: [1:40:01 - 1:45:00] Closing statement by James White. [1:45:01 - 1:50:00] Closing statement by Jimmy Akin. Debate Conclusion: [1:50:01 - 1:55:00] Final remarks and thank yous.
No audio???
there is audio
I feel sad for the audio.
There is audio, check again.
You'd better feel sad for James White.
@@JeanRausis haha