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  @johnsmith65034 күн бұрын

  As a European this is really interesting and educational stuff. Thanks for posting! :)

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  @kyledartnellКүн бұрын

  glad you enjoyed it!

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  7:51 - word you're looking for landed gentry, and yeah anti-hunters in the US don't really understand the the hunt saboteurs in the UK is more about class war than about animal rights. Because a lot of time the hunt saboteur groups there will celebrate corporations taking over landed estates and ending the fox hunts rather than rewilding the land or returning the land to the commons. They're not pro-environementalism like in the US. It's kind of messed up in regards to incentives

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  @kyledartnell7 күн бұрын

  It is a shame, and I think primarily a messaging problem for hunters in the UK to correct the conventional narrative from blood-thirsty toffs to country people living on the land.

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  4:45 - theres two different style in Russia. One is the one universal dog for city-hunters. Then theres the three specialized dogs kept by commercial hunters or subsistence hunters. Still one dog, one person while hunting. Just husbandry practice and breeding selection differ

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  4:33 - same with laikas. They figure out based on the context of what youre carrying if it's time to hunt fur-bearing game or meat game

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  15:42 - yes, S.V. Bogatov said a lot of pedigreed laikas are meant for weekend huntings and city hunters who live in apartment blocks: easily excitable, hot-headed, tire easily. Hunt all year around for 1-3 days at a time. Most of the dogs can't work under -25C. Indigenous or unregistered laikas kept by commercial hunters: calm dogs which work non-stop for two weeks or two months of the year effortless. Work in -30 or -40. (Vladimir Beregovoy translates as "aboriginal" but that's kind of a bad word to use.)

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  Bogatov said pedigreed laikas are not bad. They reliably bark when treed, but the unregistered laikas don't always bark. Sometimes hunter will find the dog sitting under a tree wagging their tail. My previous industrial bred dog did that with squirrels, but barks with grouse. He's wise in figuring out squirrels will timber if he barks. But not something recreational hunters want. Current recreational-bred dog bark with squirrels without being taught.

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  11:47 - yes, if you read the JTO for Finnish Spitz and Norbottenspets, the curators literally said even though there are sizeable populations in North America, they consider those gene pools not suitable for outcrossing and there are better options eg. importing from Russia, registering non-pedigreed village dogs etc. because at least those dogs are still hunted with whereas the FS and NS in Canada and US are in the hands of show fanciers

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  JTO is jalostuksen tavoiteohjelma

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  Thank you interviewing one of my old mutuals

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  9:17 - yes, there's an article from a dog-nan who tells people who gets frustrated with laikas' unwillingness to put up with modern complusion training to sell the laika and buy a German Spaniel or German Pointer instead

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  Рекомендации по воспитанию лаек. - Лобачев В.С., Гладков Д. There's a few articles on the Laika Library website which tells people to ignore training manuals from Germany because they end up killing the laika's willingness to hunt

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  This one advises gundog owners to be patient with their laikas and never show anger: Из опыта выращивания и воспитания лайки. - Разумовская Е.

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  @kyledartnell7 күн бұрын

  My experience has been that conventional obedience training is about getting the dog to focus on you, and for our type of hunting too much human focus can hamper the dogs willingness to get away from you and hunt.

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  Ah, so you do know what laikas are. Find it funny you two talked about the JGV hunting trials in Germany, but not the RORS (Rosokhotrybolovsoyuz) in Russia. The RORS tests everything: marten, sable, moose, waterfowl retrieve, pheasant, lynx, wild boar, badgers, brown bears, squuirrels, caoercallie, grouse. There's a similar breeding system in Ukraine and Belarus. Laikas do tree, but you have to select for that trait. Treeing ability has declined with squuirrel pelt prices crashing and tthe trade embargoes against sable and marten furs imposed after Putin's occupation of Crimea. Nowadays hunting boars is more common. It's very difficult to find treeing lineages unless youu find a commercial hunter east of the Urals. My last dog came from bloodlines proven on bears and sables. Sable dogs are worth more than gold, and a West Siberian Laika unproven on bears are not considered true Mansi type. My current dog is from bloodlines proven on bears, waterfowl annd martens.

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  @ZaryaTheLaika18 күн бұрын

  I believe Vladimir Beregovoy translated an article "Hunting for Profit Versus Sports" by S.V. Bogatov. My last dog came from professional or industrial hunting lines, and current one came from recreational hunting lines. The temperament differences between the two lifestyles are huge. Much prefer the industrial lines: calmer, level-headed, work harder and longer. Think you also may enjoy "Peculiarities of Hunting Sables" from the same author who talked about flyers (hot-nose) versus crawlers (cold-nose).

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  @kyledartnell7 күн бұрын

  Where can I find these articles?

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  @kyledartnell7 күн бұрын

  I have never heard of RORS- sounds like a fantastic test to keep breeds useful even in "recreational" hands. I know quite a few guys in the northern U.S. running laikas with their hounds on bears and lions, who say they are useful putting pressure on to tree, and generally tree very well. Not sure of the bloodlines.

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  @ZaryaTheLaika7 күн бұрын

  @@kyledartnell I'm not really a fan of U.S. lineages because some of them are losing their cold-weather tolerance. It gets -40°C in winter and +40°C in summers where I live in Alberta/northern BC. I've actually considered importing Evenki Laikas because of this

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  @ZaryaTheLaika7 күн бұрын

  @@kyledartnell Bogatov, S.V. “Peculiarities of Laika Hunting Sable” [PDF, 907 kb]. Journal of the International Society for Preservation of Primitive Aboriginal Dogs 6 (2004): 2 - 3. Bogatov, S.V. “Hunting For Profit Versus Hunting For Sport” [PDF, 910 kb]. Journal of the International Society for Preservation of Primitive Aboriginal Dogs 17 (2004): 28 - 31. Bogatov, S.V. “Commercial Squirrel Hunting with Laikas” [PDF, 2.08 MB]. Journal of the International Society for Preservation of Primitive Aboriginal Dogs 28 (2011): 54 - 81. Hope that helps

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  @clintnardoni28 күн бұрын

  As a utah resident myself, all of this is true. -Hunting opportunity in the state decreases every few years. -Every year houses build higher and higher up the mountains at the valley edges. -I-15 is always a mess. And when someone draws a tag, the hunting pressure is high. -and hunting is trendy. Joe Rogan and others blew it up. This is good and bad. Certainly it’s changed hunting the way the animals behavior. -What wasn’t mentioned, the politicians keep wanting to privatize all the public land, which, in my opinion, is a terrible idea for everyone but the filthy rich.

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  @kyledartnell7 күн бұрын

  I agree- public land is one of the best things about this country. What do you think should be done about increased urban sprawl?

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  @clintnardoni4 күн бұрын

  @@kyledartnell I'm not smart enough to have a good solution haha. I doubt anyone from 50-100 years ago understood how fast population growth and urbanization would occur in these area, and it wasn't planned for.

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  @Akita3456Ай бұрын

  ❤❤❤ thank you so much for this great interview

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  @kyledartnellАй бұрын

  Glad you enjoyed it!

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  @MattWilliams-vf8kf2 ай бұрын

  Great interbiew, great man, a real houndsman 100%

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  @capatrateka2 ай бұрын

  Thank you so much for this video. Much love from a brindle akita inu owner

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  @kyledartnellАй бұрын

  Thank you for watching!

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  @airy-mountain4 ай бұрын

  Good interview. Couldn't agree more with the thoughts and sentiments expressed here.

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  @kyledartnellАй бұрын

  Thanks for the support.

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  @mkleinschmidt398 ай бұрын

  Nice to hear about interacting with your dogs more than just when you are hunting. I did that i am sure it makes a difference. Some of them spent a night or two in the house.

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  @kyledartnellАй бұрын

  I agree- watching dogs I have raised become better and better is worth far more to me than fur in a tree.

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  @loupuleff5719 ай бұрын

  Man, you got me in tears man I'm sorry for your loss it's amazing how close you can get to animals their actually better than most people !!

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  @mkleinschmidt399 ай бұрын

  Not hard to like dogs more than people. If you run game that trees, why would you waste your time on running hounds.

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  @conger555559 ай бұрын

  Be tasteful kids

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  @manologonzalez118410 ай бұрын

  Wonderful advise all that gave me different view on my doubts

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  @robertswain482910 ай бұрын

  Is it as good as Irish springs? Very interesting video btw

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  @terryfincher207910 ай бұрын

  Wow understand lost Cody that way

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  @terryfincher2079 Жыл бұрын

  Wow I have lost dogs just like that understand I miss Cody

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  @alfie7943 Жыл бұрын

  Roshi Hal Herring, zen master........:) gassho........unity of purpose...........wonderful.........the wolf doing its job, the sage brush, the taker, the taken, the flesh, the rock, the storm, the dawn.......call me by my true names. Meditation is about self, exactly, and the question asked, eternally, in meditation, is 'what is self'? or Who am I? ....what am I.....When mule deer eye locks with human eye, where am I, who is who? Exactly, we exist beyond self. Hunters practice this. Are awake. We are the sage brush. Instantaneous compassion. Suffering with. Dualism collides in it's emptiness. Unity of purpose. A shared fate, a greater current. "The one who bows and the one who is bowed to, are both, by nature, 'empty' ".......the one who hunts and the one who is hunted. It's right, the world is in its orbit, and I'm in the place, right now. Thanks Hal and Kyle

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  @kyledartnell11 ай бұрын

  Exactly. Thank you "my buddhist friend".

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  @mpmassacre91 Жыл бұрын

  My kinda dog is either a red border collie or any Australian Sheppard thats what I grew up with but where I live now I can't have no dog and it hurts.

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  @rowdyhoundsman Жыл бұрын

  I’m enjoying your videos Kyle, keep them coming!

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  thanks bud!

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  @1967Trueblue Жыл бұрын

  In my opinion, convincing a bear that it’s best to climb is a psychological battle that is won or lost when dogs first encounter the bear. Either the bear is gonna be intimidated or the dogs are. If you got real deal loud pressure bear dogs that show up at the meet and greet at the same time, it don’t take that many to win that battle the vast majority of the time. If you got some dogs that show up first that allow that bear to gain some confidence, you might be in for a long day.

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  @kyledartnellАй бұрын

  Could be. I think there are some bears ain't gonna tree no matter what the dogs do. They've learned to walk and fight, and whether its twenty dogs or two it's staying on the ground.

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  @baseward9585 Жыл бұрын

  do you sell any pups Mike?

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  @rowdyhoundsman Жыл бұрын

  After a winter of snow hunting, I’ve started using Mike’s training technique to start my dogs on dry ground. It’s not easy to get the dogs to slow down. One thing I have learned is to exercise my dogs before I put them on the scent trail so they’re not so apt to over run the trail. I have started putting the better performing dog out first followed by the next best performing and so on. I feel like the less performing dog will try harder, so they can catch up to their buddies. Once they’re all trailing good, I change up the order that I put them out to give them confidence.

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  I am in a similar boat, let me know how that strategy works out. I recently hunted with a friend of Mike's who taught me to slow down and really give the dogs time to sniff around. If they have hunt, and they have time, it seems like they'll work for a track. An old dog would help as well lol

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  @davidjones9518 Жыл бұрын

  Track dogs track drivers hard to find dog has to have drive and heart

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  @davidjones9518 Жыл бұрын

  Top dog hard to find keep looking

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  @catchemalive Жыл бұрын

  People that are against us using dogs for hunting have NO IDEA how close we are to these animals and just how far we will go to take care of them!! So touching to hear that story!!! They are truly apart of the family and it hurts bad when that day comes.

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  @catchemalive Жыл бұрын

  Sooooooo much knowledge to gain from people just like this couple!! No doubt they have lived out what they are telling us. Thanks for these videos !!

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  Thank you for listening! I learned a lot: a side of hunting with hounds that needs more air-time.

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  @catchemalive Жыл бұрын

  Could you put a link on here for me about his article he talked about so i can read it too please? Thanks alot

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  Yes, I have added it to the video notes.

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  @juliojames5986 Жыл бұрын

  Life is not as easy when you love animals, never a tool, and as I got older, I did not want to pull the trigger on a big game animal, on a hunt, so I don’t ☺️ .Putting a animal down, is tough, at times a must. Thanks 🤠

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  Yessir, that is true. My feeling is that life entails suffering, whether you are the one pulling the trigger or not, so if I can kill my prey as humanely as possible that is the best option.

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  @juliojames5986 Жыл бұрын

  @@kyledartnell Eggzactly….we do what we have too ! When it comes to animals, I am getting softer….! Thx

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  @royq1434 Жыл бұрын

  Game and fish definitely needs more input from local Houndsmen in Zone I. In three or four years the female sub limit it’s been fill and closing the zone in January, this year is been the opposite because I think there not the many females this year, they been thin out by outfitters, they do exactly what Mike is saying, they come they kill anything that climbs up and usually females, they have two or three guys that they pay a few dollars to cut roads for them, they close the zone and move on the the next one, game and fish should do the something similar like they do for the rest of the big game hunt draw where outfitters only get a percentage of the lions harvest, and leaving the rest for the non outfitters that have to have regular jobs and hunt weekend, it’s not fair for locals or their hounds for hunting opportunity’s.

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  I like the idea of outfitters being limited to a particular "home-ground"- encouraging them to manage their neck of the woods for the future.

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  @royq1434 Жыл бұрын

  Not opposed on killing a female here and there, everything needs to get managed, it would be good if Houndsmen get on the same page and harvest mature Toms, not opposed for outfitters to make a living, a lot of us that hunt dogs guide elk and deer and ones in a while a lion hunt, and is always good to be upfront with clients to make sure they know that a mature Tom lion is the trophy they want to harvest and stick with it, there’s some outfitters that do mainly the local ones, but Usually not the ones that come from some place elsewhere, it seems that we preaching to the choir but most of the time is the choir that needs to hear the message.

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  @TonyBynum Жыл бұрын

  extraordinary Hal . . . this is Hal at it's best. This is timeless. Great Work Kyle, you got the best out of Hal. Arguably the best Hal Herring online.

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  @kyledartnell Жыл бұрын

  Thanks Tony. It was a privilege to sit with Hal and hear his thoughts. He has colored how I understand the world. Afterwards we sat on the porch for a couple hours while he answered the questions I didn't know I had, and I blew smoke into the ether. I would love to come up again and chat with you sometime.