Welcome to my channel, here you will find informative, how to videos for all Dirt Late Model cars. In meeting numerous race teams l see racers are wanting to improve their programs, lap times and results but are unable to due to lack of know how or knowledge. Setup and adjustments at track are many lack certainty and confidence in chassis adjustments. I share my knowledge, an resources to help/teach drivers and teams my process on reducing lap times, improving finishing positions; team work and confidence. I worked for numerous kinds of teams high and low end ones over past 14yrs and have same goal for all, get up front and WIN! Lord willing. I use my unorthodox methods and little tricks, I have developed , tested, retested, and confirmed the results. I can assist you in all your racing needs from setup /scale, consulting, driver development and much more. For questions on consulting services message me on my facebook page link in top right of screen. Thanks
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That was honestly one of the smoothest gravel drifts I’ve seen in a while
that's 411 lol
Ok so i know this is different but i can tell you have complete understanding. I have a custom 4link front and rear on a jeep gladiator. Numbers all green but truck feels like it rides mainly on drivers side frame rail.. Do you have any thoughts asnto why. Very high end system its not shit lol
Just depends on it's specific geometry. Without knowing more details it's hard to say.
Are you in East Tennessee?
Not currently, but Knoxville about 3 hours from my house. I do travel and help teams at all levels. If interested can message me on my Facebook page facebook.com/dirtlatemodeltechtips
Thank You. A guy like me coming from Late Models in the 80s. This helps me understand how the new cars work. If we had tried this back then. We would have to figure out how to keep U Joints, drive shafts and resr transmission seals in tact
Glad it helped, be sure to check out all my playlists and videos. And if you want even more information you can get my full set up information and how to do it in a written guide that 64 pages long. It breaks down everything and I I have developed a sweet spot range that cars work in. If you in that realm you pretty decent just needing to tune to track and your needs. If you want more information direct message me on Facebook @ Dirt Late Model Tech Tips for more information.
Whoa !!! One of the worst I have seen. I hope everyone involved is ok .
He was good. Little shook but good. They tried to get him back out. That was a heat race if I remember right.
Congratulations, nice forward bite, good job , thanks BigAl California.❤❤❤the vlog with this view in car camera, nice race line on track.
Good job holding your lane good job look good
DTD, Happy to have you back posting. Looking forward to some more content.
A dixi-cup works great on straight exhaust.
Does cutting a slit at RR deck in front of the spoiler help relieve the daming and air bubble to help create more spoiler down force
No. The "bubble" as you called it is a pocket of swirling air caused by spoiler being too steep. Never exceed 70° spoiler angle, as this is best starting point. I have been slightly higher but very very rarely I go over that 70° angle. Steeper then 70-73° you risk the pocket forming kinda like a tailgate on a pickup truck does. You want to ramp the air up the pocket makes air roll off spoiler.
There was a significant rotational force left out of this video. Anyone know what it was?
Driveshaft rotational direction.
You are right, not considered by most to do anything but it does have an effect usually over looked. And to be honest I really didn't consider it Factor to brought to my attention even though it's crossed my mind but being so narrow and low torque due to its size. But regardless there's still a force being applied.
There is 500+ lbs of engine torque being applied to the rear end gear as the rear end converts driveshaft rotation to axle shaft rotation. Drag strip racers run the left rear heavier to accommodate this effect. Circle track racers mistakenly assume that it is only to counter dynamic weight bias from turning left. I thoroughly enjoy your videos and thank you for this conversation. Keep up the great videos please!
@curt9i Now lets consider what happens to the effort at the lift arm when we change gear reduction. It changes. This will result in dynamic elevation change at all 4 corners of the car as the torque at the moment is changed.
I had chains on my race dirt car way way way back in the early 90 s they said I was crazy lol thanks BigAl California ,,, praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏
Do you think something like this could be applied to an autocross car? It’s a torque arm setup currently
Yes there is huge mechanical traction to be harnessed from 4-link system. Just have to tune aggression you want in car.
That don't tell you s***
Well there good information, basic I say and needs to be common knowledge. However more information is available.
What is the easiest method to adjusting the LR bars on the frame side, especially since there is usually preload in the LR shock?
I'm going to do video about this issue.
Back in the day I use to make shock drop brackets by taking two shock mounts and welding them together lol I was like 17 trying to be NASA on my race car. Lol it’s cool to see I was on the right track 😂
Well now I am done for the rest of the year i brunt a piston or something thank you all you did
I like to say thank you so much for the help Friday and Saturday night I ran better those two nights
Awesome man, more where that came from.
Yes I did and changed rear gear felt like a lot of wheel spin
Thank you this weekend I lost all forward bit just seen not to go I think years ago afco had a shock that went in the 4bar link if I can find it might try that
So are you lowering load or bar angle on RR?
Thanks
Very good job enjoyed it dose it change ride height and if you change that do you have to change all 4 corners
So changing bar angles on RR does effect ride height if the radius on chassis brackets doesn't follow the bar radius. Regardless, it's minimal if it does. I primarily focus of the LF, RF, and RR ride heights. The LR is the variable in height as that will change with changing extended load.
How does a bump stop affect drive off
Now there are a lot of key factors missing. Like where is bump located, spring packaging, etc ... Along with how much bump you are using.
@DirtTrackDave load rate on right front is 600lb 175 14in. spring 3 1/2 in. of travel to the bump stop
The car lacks traction form center off till exit
Is RF soft? I don't like the soft RF trend DLM racing has currently. But please message me here for further discussion. [email protected]
@@DirtTrackDave yes it is soft
Never let the RR lower go below zero? Total Nonsense -5 is an extremely useful position as long as you comprehend what your doing the effects on drive angle, wheel base, indexing, etc. negative bar angle is still used often.
Only useful for a crutch in my findings. RR lower below 3* at static means in dynamic you go below 0 and likely around -2 up to -4* . This means the bars go from one thrust direction to zero and then a negative thrust direction. This results in forces countering each other instead of working together. I found the 4-link rear end set up works best and more efficient if a bars forces all pushing same direction. Both LR and RR. However in tuning these things we are not taking grip away necessarily but changing it from one side of the rear end to the other. When tracks are heavy you want more right rear drive, more RR angle especially in the right rear upper bar. However this is the opposite when it's slick. I do decrease my angles on the RR but I never go below zero not lower because it creates an imbalance and the timing and how they're working together LR vs RR that is. But when it's slick I decrease that angle to allow it to work much slower and not get on the bars as quick. This makes the LR drive longer before the RR comes in resulting in more straight line traction exit to just on straight away.
Have some questions I race a 2018 Swartz wanting some good thoughts on my late model I hate when you ask people question and all they say is talk to the chassis builder and lot of times people use other setups if you could help out I’d appreciate it
If you would email me @ [email protected]
What is the proper bar angle on a three bar set up on the top bar?
2:48 Sunday June 4
Center link starting 13-18°
I'm trying to set up my late model on world of outlaws playstation 4, lol . There is alot of settings. My dad used to race them in the late 90s.
Well I have found a the relationship between real world and sim adjustments is not the same. The accuracy in sim DLM racing is way off. Similar but off.
I’d fix it and race it 👍
When you are talking bar angles at about the 12 minute mark are those degrees at ride height or while racing. The 18-21 upper lower 3-6 degrees
That is static bar angles at ride height or as would be in scales with driver. 3 for RR lower is still to low I have found. That's more my dynamic angle I try to stay around for semi heavy conditions say 3/8 mile tracks.
Thanks for the info man
@@DaveyAkersMotorsports yes sir if you need more insight my written information is loaded with real usable numbers situations and email straight to you, check out these guides. Adjustment guide www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/9974U9XA5MTYS Set up guide www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/4J87KMZC9D5PU Tire guide www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/W6GF2X6VSBNFN
hey i see ur setup sheet is free how can i download that
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I’m 23 and wish I was this 12 year old 😂😂😂
why dont ya make a video with some swing arm tech instead of all this 4 bar gayness!!!!
Jay the z-link and swing arm have their uses and benefits. They still run in specific dirt motor sports and asphalt. However the swing arm is inferior to the 4 link geometry. The 4 link uses 100% of forward thrust to drive that side of rear. Where swing arm does not it's less then 50% since one bar is inverted. For old school this was on as cars were not as efficient with 4 link as they are now days. So swing arm take a little drive out yet cut down roll steer as well with it's up and down motion. Where as 4 link is down and forward.
Do most drivers understand and know all of this stuff? This all seems impossible to master
no, very few are 100% confidence in adjustments they make.
Great throttle control. Got much better at the end..I think he could outrun everybody down the straightaway….I only raced a late model for 2 years when I was 17. I wish we would have had iracing then. Much cheaper way to learn to drive than learning on the track
Where’d you go? Planning to make more videos?
I'm been racing with numerous customers around the country on and off majority of the year. However, I have gathered 700-900GB if videos to produce new content.
@@DirtTrackDave glad to hear you’re okay!
That is my dads house car driver. The driver of the 1G warrior race car. His mom was filming and i asked her about it and she said she didnt know it was him till she saw the 30 on the roof. He said he got a little hurt but not to bad.
It was a very scary crash, one of a few I was like OMG. We were all glad to see he was ok, car not so much.
Thanks dude my mind is smoking but I get it
The Kid is a beast!!
Totally different track conditions at night at the GAP hammer down fast
What size chain is good to use for holding the rear end for pre load
For LR chain I use minimum of 1500 pound chain.
Hi Dave, I'm over in the UK and Do a similar type of racing, Except go clockwise around the track, but looking to build a new car again next year, i've not built this type before where the car is front engined RWD, most of my previous car builds has been rear engine RWD, If building from scratch is there certain things that go in certain places give or take an inch? I will only have the wheel base of the original car to start with.
Please email me with some more information on your needs @ [email protected]
Can you do a video showing what each rod will do and how much change it changes for example you need an extra inch on the right to loosen up the car move this bar, or to tighten up the car on exit move this bar one hole, for us new guys this 4 link stuff is new and where do we get the program you have on your computer to learn the angles and such.
Well that is getting pretty technical, and thats the stuff I break down in adjustment guide. Here are links to those guides. PayPal links to purchase guides Set up guide www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/4J87KMZC9D5PU Adjustment guide www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/9974U9XA5MTYS Tire guide www.paypal.com/instantcommerce/checkout/W6GF2X6VSBNFN
Dave where have you gone...?
I'm still around
How do i get ahold of you.
@@randyreynolds3743 message me on my Facebook page facebook.com/dirtlatemodeltechtips
Hey Dave, anyway you could email me LR & RR on- onshape?
It should be available as its open source
Where is this kid now he still racing???
Thank you! Learning a lot from your videos, trying to apply this to my own road racing 4 link setup. Any thoughts on setting up a 4 bar for the road course?
Glad they are helping Doug. I have a variety of customers competing in different forms of motorsport like land speed cars, saloon cars, and sprint rally stuff. For road racing two key things compared to DLM geometry,. One: longer and way flatter (less angle) bars for less movement. Two: Liftbar set up less aggressive, don't need all the hike or anti-squat that we require. Always glad to expand potential gains from working with other car types. Feel free to contact me about more 4 link information.
Some of that info is wrong AND OUT DATED NOW.
What part or parts you FEEL is out dated? Because it's still winning races.
Dogs are like people they love going fast I used to cruise around like this my American Staffordshire terrier Daisy October 15th 2008 to June 4th 2018 and bandit my beagle Blue heeler Mix August 15th 2003 August 20 2020 Rip best times in my life I ever had was riding around with them and my old pickup truck with them up in the cab