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How is ended, mate? 5-1? I the count, anyway i loved your run, wp! I'll try a similar version, maybe GR without black.
@andreazanoletti4716Күн бұрын
in game 1 not even Wasteland could help you cause with maze comes into play tapped
@WatchThatFastКүн бұрын
This deck is amazing!
@WatchThatFast2 күн бұрын
No putrid Imp? interesting
@3o7Mian4 күн бұрын
I find it amusing that BW control tilts players so hard, but I often see the deck losing to itself. Maybe because it's just a pile of answers similar to UW... but the deck has no way to prevent itself from flooding out and doesn't have the FoF's to keep the gas coming. Sure, they kinda just answer everything, but they don't really have a clock until insanely late game. No need to doom and gloom. Have fun and enjoy man! :) Ps. Would love to see one big shroud NO target :)
@chuckstevens49853 күн бұрын
Skeletal scrying is your way to refuel
@joehenderson15 күн бұрын
Love your content. Keep up the great work!
@moxforge4 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@CelestialHeathen5 күн бұрын
Match 2 (vs RG Goblins) game 3 at 42:35, opponent has 3 cards in hand and had been playing nothing but a Mogg Fanatic and a Siege Gang Commander, he almost currently has reactive cards like Naturalize in hand. I think it's better to Cabal Therapy and Bolt the Commander while he's tapped out first then drop the Engineered Plague the following turn.
@moxforge4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! This would have been a really strong line to play. The 1/1 Goblins were really no problem there with the Walls on Board :)
@JWar-14 күн бұрын
I think the whole point of force spike is the early tempo. If you're playing force spike, you play all 4. You want one in your opening hand. Play Cephalid Coliseum to dump them late game.
@user-vn2tn8ir7n16 күн бұрын
def need to add powder keg to the md or sb
@moxforge16 күн бұрын
Great Idea!
@franciscofloresulloa808017 күн бұрын
Nice channel, auto suscribe.
@CarloGoiff66617 күн бұрын
Unsubscribed. You play awful 32:43
@mrsrandommademedoit338718 күн бұрын
u should try meditate in this deck., played it to 5 0 at locals with meditate. Stroke was often awkward, too slow or just a win more card. it sounds awkward. but with a tangle in the board its nuts, u get 4 cards insant speed for 3 mana and u dont loose counter from tangle. lost of time its more than worth it. vs Black white control the meditates just won me the games hands down. vs Ponza it was the same
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
This is a sweet idea!
@CarloGoiff66618 күн бұрын
Ditch a bunch of copies of nishoba and akroma, put 4 copies of entomb plus 2-3 copies of iridescent angel (not legendary so you can have several in play) and you are set.
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Entomb is banned in Premodern.
@CarloGoiff66618 күн бұрын
@@moxforge yeah i looked into it, and buried alive is way too slow damn :/
@maxzakh19 күн бұрын
Nexus?!
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
What do you mean?
@maxzakh18 күн бұрын
@@moxforge I was just shocked to see it in the list, after watching the video it performed really well! That loss to psychatog felt really bad, hate that card.
@maximilianoarguello177919 күн бұрын
Love this idea. I thought of it long time ago but going more aggresive. Sol lands, phyrexian negator… love this idea
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
This could be cool!
@3o7Mian19 күн бұрын
Cool deck idea!
@micheleb.0023 күн бұрын
Unfair matchup, mate ❤
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Yeah this felt like we where playing two different formats 😅
@micheleb.0024 күн бұрын
46:40 😂 i love you mate ❤ 2:34:45 and here i loved you so much 🎉 I think the key card that is missing is UPHEAVAL and some more island
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the Feedback. Great Idea with Upveahel!
@tors1725 күн бұрын
Is it ok if I use 3 Mana Leak and use 1 absorb?
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Sure! The Deck and format has enough Room for some different cards.
@chaucansk826 күн бұрын
BEST CHANNEL EVEEEER
@moxforge24 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@rodrigohartl27 күн бұрын
Nice videos and matchs! how would be your strategy with stasis against a classic ug madness with 4 mongrels 4 aquammoeba and gush/foil? only cursed totems?
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yeah Cursed Totem is the best card, otherwise we have to counter or bounce the Discard Creatures.
@CelestialHeathen29 күн бұрын
Match 1 game 2, I think it's correct to animate Mishra's Factory and sacrifice it to Tinker for Phyrexian Colossus. You already have a Voltaic Key in play and opponent already used 2 Naturalizes.
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Great line of play!
@ericmoses906629 күн бұрын
Maybe add a copy or two or terrain generator. That way you can move your basics into play without losing city. Perhaps in the sky diamond slot (2 terrain generator / 2 mox diamond).
@moxforge18 күн бұрын
Thanks for your Feedback. Really love Terrain Generator but i think this is not the right shell for it.
@davidguillenjimenez7526Ай бұрын
Standstill much better than absolute law 😅😅
@marcrabazagairi2650Ай бұрын
Hello el bloom emergence is competitive ? Or just for fun??
@moxforgeАй бұрын
I think it is quite competetive but needs some more rework.
@thefloodedstrandАй бұрын
GGs! I think you probably would’ve had me if not for that fatal casting of rancor at the end.
@LukasK9Ай бұрын
Chain of Vapor could turn against you easily
@user-vn2tn8ir7nАй бұрын
Those dustbowls are terrible to look at they hurt my eyes lol
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Yeah they are horrible
@lukewandygАй бұрын
I love the German pronunciation of Mulch haha caught me off guard. Love your videos!
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Thank you! I got some feedback on my pronounciation of Cabal Controle aka Cable Control, but now i will add Mulch to the List 😃
@micheleb.00Ай бұрын
I struggled watching you against a Solution deck, i want you to win & the same for Solution ❤ Great content mate, see you in the battlefield
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Thank you, Rain!
@diogofernandesbАй бұрын
This deck has potential.
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Yeah giving the Lands First Strike is the Game Changer!
@marcrabazagairi2650Ай бұрын
Hello is this for fun or can be quite competitive?
@moxforgeАй бұрын
I think this can be quite competetive if we can tune it enogh. Red Green has proben to has the right tools to win tournaments and Natural Emergence and Mishra‘s Helix are serious cards! It won‘t be a Elves or Replenish Powerlevel Deck but could be pretty decent.
@MillnocАй бұрын
Such a cool deck. I love mulch
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Yeah maybe i was just too unlucky with mulch this time.
@lancemagmer9701Ай бұрын
I wonder if having more utility lands could be a direction to go?
@moxforgeАй бұрын
@@lancemagmer9701Yeah could work. What are your Ideas?
@@moxforge Maybe burgeoning instead of summer bloom?
@BoeseTatАй бұрын
The Wall of Tears in the sideboard makes me so happy, always nice to see walls. Wonder if you will board it in often. I am definitly in this 3 h video
@BoeseTatАй бұрын
Creative list, love the Endless Wurm in your build
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Thanks! But i copied the whole list i played.
@micheleb.00Ай бұрын
Keep tuning the deck, mate! Have you looked card like Reverent Mantra or Bounty of hunt? Manaless help
@moxforgeАй бұрын
This could be a great addition!
@marcrabazagairi2650Ай бұрын
Is this a bit competitive or just for fun?
@moxforgeАй бұрын
I think it is pretty strong but probably not competetive.
@IPlayMagicАй бұрын
I’m playing bogles in a monthly right now (slightly different list to yours) and currently 3-1 with the one loss due to drawing 12 lands in a 20 land deck and also getting stuck on 1 land due to a wasteland. I think it’s a really solid deck
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Yeah it has a lot of potential. But shroud is so much worse than hexproof. Can you please share your list?
@IPlayMagicАй бұрын
@@moxforge I will make a video about it at the end of the month, because there is a very reasonable chance I will top 8 with it and I know those guys watch my videos because they told me 😂
@brianmcgoldrick9529Ай бұрын
Guten Morgen!
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Guten Morgen!
@marcrabazagairi2650Ай бұрын
Man is this deck competitive a bit? Or reallynjust for fun?
@moxforgeАй бұрын
Not really competetive
@serrahoolАй бұрын
Arcane denial should be something here too. But that was a nice and fun deck!
@I1caro2 ай бұрын
Cringe games. Try to play a couple of warm up rounds to understand the deck.
@moxforge2 ай бұрын
I did 5 warmup rounds before but would be interested to see what you mean? Where would you played different and why?
@I1caro2 ай бұрын
@@moxforge Sorry bad mood. The deck is janky. I would not have played smokestack vs burn, I would have sideboarded out. If you were winning you didn't need it and when you were losing it was hopeless. Sphere of resistance vs dead guy, helped him more than it helped you. But what could you side board? The matchup is terrible. Fade away, might be better than pendrell mists, if only marginally.
@lancemagmer97012 ай бұрын
Have you considered Arcane Denial? Has synergy with the pr8son elements and is less blue intensive than Counterspell
@moxforge2 ай бұрын
Yeah i think it is nice when Black Vise is active but if not it can backfire fast.
@GabrielMenendez-ks6dv2 ай бұрын
I thought about Arcane which would definitely be easier with mana, but as Phil said sometimes it puts you too far behind. I would probably consider something more like prohibit or mana leak in that slot now.
@tomaspernicky7612 ай бұрын
Glad you made this video - I love it!
@MaxBeaulieu2 ай бұрын
Tortured existence is one my my favorite cards of all time .
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Mind Harness I never seen this card!
How is ended, mate? 5-1? I the count, anyway i loved your run, wp! I'll try a similar version, maybe GR without black.
in game 1 not even Wasteland could help you cause with maze comes into play tapped
This deck is amazing!
No putrid Imp? interesting
I find it amusing that BW control tilts players so hard, but I often see the deck losing to itself. Maybe because it's just a pile of answers similar to UW... but the deck has no way to prevent itself from flooding out and doesn't have the FoF's to keep the gas coming. Sure, they kinda just answer everything, but they don't really have a clock until insanely late game. No need to doom and gloom. Have fun and enjoy man! :) Ps. Would love to see one big shroud NO target :)
Skeletal scrying is your way to refuel
Love your content. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much!
Match 2 (vs RG Goblins) game 3 at 42:35, opponent has 3 cards in hand and had been playing nothing but a Mogg Fanatic and a Siege Gang Commander, he almost currently has reactive cards like Naturalize in hand. I think it's better to Cabal Therapy and Bolt the Commander while he's tapped out first then drop the Engineered Plague the following turn.
Thanks for the feedback! This would have been a really strong line to play. The 1/1 Goblins were really no problem there with the Walls on Board :)
I think the whole point of force spike is the early tempo. If you're playing force spike, you play all 4. You want one in your opening hand. Play Cephalid Coliseum to dump them late game.
def need to add powder keg to the md or sb
Great Idea!
Nice channel, auto suscribe.
Unsubscribed. You play awful 32:43
u should try meditate in this deck., played it to 5 0 at locals with meditate. Stroke was often awkward, too slow or just a win more card. it sounds awkward. but with a tangle in the board its nuts, u get 4 cards insant speed for 3 mana and u dont loose counter from tangle. lost of time its more than worth it. vs Black white control the meditates just won me the games hands down. vs Ponza it was the same
This is a sweet idea!
Ditch a bunch of copies of nishoba and akroma, put 4 copies of entomb plus 2-3 copies of iridescent angel (not legendary so you can have several in play) and you are set.
Entomb is banned in Premodern.
@@moxforge yeah i looked into it, and buried alive is way too slow damn :/
Nexus?!
What do you mean?
@@moxforge I was just shocked to see it in the list, after watching the video it performed really well! That loss to psychatog felt really bad, hate that card.
Love this idea. I thought of it long time ago but going more aggresive. Sol lands, phyrexian negator… love this idea
This could be cool!
Cool deck idea!
Unfair matchup, mate ❤
Yeah this felt like we where playing two different formats 😅
46:40 😂 i love you mate ❤ 2:34:45 and here i loved you so much 🎉 I think the key card that is missing is UPHEAVAL and some more island
Thanks for the Feedback. Great Idea with Upveahel!
Is it ok if I use 3 Mana Leak and use 1 absorb?
Sure! The Deck and format has enough Room for some different cards.
BEST CHANNEL EVEEEER
Thank you very much!
Nice videos and matchs! how would be your strategy with stasis against a classic ug madness with 4 mongrels 4 aquammoeba and gush/foil? only cursed totems?
Thank you! Yeah Cursed Totem is the best card, otherwise we have to counter or bounce the Discard Creatures.
Match 1 game 2, I think it's correct to animate Mishra's Factory and sacrifice it to Tinker for Phyrexian Colossus. You already have a Voltaic Key in play and opponent already used 2 Naturalizes.
Great line of play!
Maybe add a copy or two or terrain generator. That way you can move your basics into play without losing city. Perhaps in the sky diamond slot (2 terrain generator / 2 mox diamond).
Thanks for your Feedback. Really love Terrain Generator but i think this is not the right shell for it.
Standstill much better than absolute law 😅😅
Hello el bloom emergence is competitive ? Or just for fun??
I think it is quite competetive but needs some more rework.
GGs! I think you probably would’ve had me if not for that fatal casting of rancor at the end.
Chain of Vapor could turn against you easily
Those dustbowls are terrible to look at they hurt my eyes lol
Yeah they are horrible
I love the German pronunciation of Mulch haha caught me off guard. Love your videos!
Thank you! I got some feedback on my pronounciation of Cabal Controle aka Cable Control, but now i will add Mulch to the List 😃
I struggled watching you against a Solution deck, i want you to win & the same for Solution ❤ Great content mate, see you in the battlefield
Thank you, Rain!
This deck has potential.
Yeah giving the Lands First Strike is the Game Changer!
Hello is this for fun or can be quite competitive?
I think this can be quite competetive if we can tune it enogh. Red Green has proben to has the right tools to win tournaments and Natural Emergence and Mishra‘s Helix are serious cards! It won‘t be a Elves or Replenish Powerlevel Deck but could be pretty decent.
Such a cool deck. I love mulch
Yeah maybe i was just too unlucky with mulch this time.
I wonder if having more utility lands could be a direction to go?
@@lancemagmer9701Yeah could work. What are your Ideas?
Barbarian Ring, Ice Floe, manlands, nantuko monastery
@@moxforge Maybe burgeoning instead of summer bloom?
The Wall of Tears in the sideboard makes me so happy, always nice to see walls. Wonder if you will board it in often. I am definitly in this 3 h video
Creative list, love the Endless Wurm in your build
Thanks! But i copied the whole list i played.
Keep tuning the deck, mate! Have you looked card like Reverent Mantra or Bounty of hunt? Manaless help
This could be a great addition!
Is this a bit competitive or just for fun?
I think it is pretty strong but probably not competetive.
I’m playing bogles in a monthly right now (slightly different list to yours) and currently 3-1 with the one loss due to drawing 12 lands in a 20 land deck and also getting stuck on 1 land due to a wasteland. I think it’s a really solid deck
Yeah it has a lot of potential. But shroud is so much worse than hexproof. Can you please share your list?
@@moxforge I will make a video about it at the end of the month, because there is a very reasonable chance I will top 8 with it and I know those guys watch my videos because they told me 😂
Guten Morgen!
Guten Morgen!
Man is this deck competitive a bit? Or reallynjust for fun?
Not really competetive
Arcane denial should be something here too. But that was a nice and fun deck!
Cringe games. Try to play a couple of warm up rounds to understand the deck.
I did 5 warmup rounds before but would be interested to see what you mean? Where would you played different and why?
@@moxforge Sorry bad mood. The deck is janky. I would not have played smokestack vs burn, I would have sideboarded out. If you were winning you didn't need it and when you were losing it was hopeless. Sphere of resistance vs dead guy, helped him more than it helped you. But what could you side board? The matchup is terrible. Fade away, might be better than pendrell mists, if only marginally.
Have you considered Arcane Denial? Has synergy with the pr8son elements and is less blue intensive than Counterspell
Yeah i think it is nice when Black Vise is active but if not it can backfire fast.
I thought about Arcane which would definitely be easier with mana, but as Phil said sometimes it puts you too far behind. I would probably consider something more like prohibit or mana leak in that slot now.
Glad you made this video - I love it!
Tortured existence is one my my favorite cards of all time .