Admire both writers! I like that Amis defends Borges from James’ attack on his character and supposed complicity (“Cultural Amnesia”) indeed, he was much more forgiving of his fellow writers than James. Today, we can only imagine two blokes publicly guffawing at the fellatio scene in “Portnoy’s Complaint”, how ironic they then moved on to the subject of censorship.
@CaldonianBoar5 ай бұрын
The idea of a man of Amis' accomplishments critiquing a man of Joyce's is laughable.
@QwidgyboMan4 ай бұрын
By that standard who is permitted to criticise a titan such as Joyce? Perhaps half a dozen are on his level and they're all dead.
@HkFinn83Ай бұрын
@@QwidgyboManyeh that was a bizarre comment. By that logic there’d be no such thing as criticism
@ArareemoteАй бұрын
@@QwidgyboManAnd many of them also viewed Joyce's 'masterpieces' unfavourably. Evelyn Waugh, Aldous Huxley spring to mind first, even Nabokov another great stylist, but I would need to reconfirm his views as it's been awhile.
@Supernerdystranger8 ай бұрын
O
@nickolette228 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading this series!
@grai10 ай бұрын
what year was this?
@glx384610 ай бұрын
Suzi is beautiful. Her work is amazing
@michaellabram5980 Жыл бұрын
👍
@lucianopavarotti2843 Жыл бұрын
Wagner was a genius composer but a failed dramatist -- not a single sympathetic character in any of his works, his texts are dreadful, his plots are basically buffo opera slowed to funeral march tempos, and the 'philosophical' content just a tutti frutti of odds ands ends bunged in and unresolved.
@littlehammers9032 Жыл бұрын
fellartio
@ianparker9231 Жыл бұрын
He took his father's opinion very much on board, maybe too much. That you don't mimic the pronunciation of other languages if you're speaking English.
@littlehammers9032 Жыл бұрын
@@ianparker9231 but in doing so, is entirely mispronouncing the word...thus making him look rather silly billy in the process.
@pythonslab396311 ай бұрын
Martin references this in his memoir Experience funnily enough. That his Father always used to pronounce words in a rather peculiar way that as kids they could never understand. One day they asked Kingsley and he talked about not relying on spelling pronunciation and instead speaking words according to their natural rhythms. He considered it the posh or upper-class way of speaking. Martin does his too, a great deal.
@desssval Жыл бұрын
After reading and watching him in such interviews over the years, I now feel as if I have lost a friend. RIP
@vindolanda6974 Жыл бұрын
I never knew fellatio and rococo are pronounced like that. Wonderful discussion.
@arthurriordan5760 Жыл бұрын
They aren't
@joek672911 ай бұрын
@@arthurriordan5760 they are, in Italy
@paulconnelly40504 ай бұрын
It's upto you. I've always pronounced it like fell-eh-shio
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
My Struggle. 😂
@josephasghar Жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that MA never seems more content than in the company of other writers. This is a delicious half hour.
@valery.2524 Жыл бұрын
RIP Martin Amis.
@mosca3289 Жыл бұрын
Farewell to an old and better world
@googleisgay3289 Жыл бұрын
Nadezhda Mandelshdam never wrote a good book. I disagree.
@christopherreynolds4446 Жыл бұрын
Barnes is a fine speaker but his works, after History of the World, are trivial. I know “The Sense of Ending” won the Booker but I thought a slight work at best
@JohnSmith-fr1xm11 ай бұрын
😂 if YOU say so…
@nickwyatt94985 ай бұрын
Poor Jools, he’ll be gutted.
@horacesinclair1861 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many mannerisms he shares here with C Hitchens. They do say that people begin to behave like each other when they spend time together.
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
They really were Very close, d'you follow me?
@loraineszatai5384 Жыл бұрын
They both died of esophageal cancer 😔
@user-fp1vu9me7r Жыл бұрын
Кейт Бланшетт лучшая галадриэль
@jonharrison9222 Жыл бұрын
Imagine basing your entire world-view on the opinion of imaginary friends. How can it be ‘unfair’ to criticise the Catholic Church for burning people at the stake, how it can by any less wrong simply because others did it?
@jonharrison9222 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think Oxford or Cambridge automatically makes better authors. Both seem to breed arrogance and dimwitery.
@oscarwilde54734 ай бұрын
@jonharrison9222 ... a crisis of identity perhaps ...
@amdkhl Жыл бұрын
She mentions her love for Liv Ullman at 3:12 and how amazing that in 2009, Cate asked Ullman to direct her in A Street Car Named Desire, considered to be one of her best stage performances. Amazing how things manifest.
@petebeckett3756 Жыл бұрын
2001 I believe that was. what an enlightening fellow, and a compassionate interviewer
@chadm9192 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what year this is? Mid 90s some time...
@genericusername4453 Жыл бұрын
2001, I think
@angelofchrist44942 жыл бұрын
Oh my partner was telling me about the komdo dragon thing , hilarious
@juliovillagran41052 жыл бұрын
Love how they can jump from topic to topic seamlessly. They don't skip a beat.
@juliovillagran41052 жыл бұрын
You can tell that Amis hung around Hitchens alot. They have similar mannerisms.
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
Nabokov and Vidal imitations.
@justininfrance2 жыл бұрын
Think this is the most entertaining of all the Clive James Library interviews. Pity they only last half an hour, presumably because he wanted to sell them to a TV channel. Don't think that happened? I"m now desperate to see those Ruby Wax films.
@justininfrance2 жыл бұрын
Just realised this isn't an official account. 849 subscribers should have been a clue. This library series is missing some notable episodes, Victoria Wood, Emma Thompson, Tom Stoppard, ect. Fortunately available on other channels.
@justininfrance2 жыл бұрын
These interviews are fascinating. Whenever politics is discussed the views expressed have been proven not just wrong, but 180 degree wrong. So much for brilliant minds.
@jonharrison9222 Жыл бұрын
Liz Truss just joined the chat.
@justininfrance2 жыл бұрын
"America is strong enough to attack Afganistan". Yes PJ, but not strong enough to defeat it. And yes George W did prove the warmonger many of us knew he would be. Two clever centrists proving how stupid clever centrists can be.
@lamalama97172 жыл бұрын
I met Simon on the Ponte Vecchio in Florence about 5 years ago. Had one of those star struck moments where I wanted him to just keep talking to hear more of that voice but was too nervous to say anything. I felt stupid but he was very gracious.
@ittybittyshoeshine2 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to them but I find their whole premise to be a bit of a gimmick. I grew up in remote Canada and I find it silly that people from London go to a random part of the world they know nothing about and see an animal for 5 minutes and think they know anything about it. Their just travelers that draw random animals. Nothing spectacular about it really. I dont find their work inspiring. Just Yuppies that can paint. Lovely people though.
@tomshaw10152 жыл бұрын
They don't seem to disagree with you, though
@sibengerard18562 жыл бұрын
''Style is an expression of perception''
@nowheregirl12942 жыл бұрын
suzi es una mujer increíble, que hombre tan afortunado es damon de tenerla a su lado! tan inteligente y hermosa<3
@Supernerdystranger10 ай бұрын
This aged well💀💀
@nowheregirl129410 ай бұрын
@@Supernerdystranger 😭😭 es la última vez q digo algo
@CaseyAfleck7 ай бұрын
La Dejo por Jeziel Alexis el modelo de instagram 😢😢😢😢😢
@TempestATeacup3 жыл бұрын
Suzi es tan hermosa e increíble. Te amo Suzi por ti le hecho ganas a la vida.
@matthewstokes16083 жыл бұрын
Larkin will be remembered, that’s the difference here - after all the ltut-tutting.
@lizziebkennedy7505 Жыл бұрын
Caring about injustice, cruelty and hypocrisy? Never stopped us loving TS Eliot. But the cruelty, ignorance and bigotry does greatly diminish Larkin. It's an astonishing gap in his sometimes extraordinary imagination. Those who reduce it to tut-tutting miss the whole point of literature. He'll always be best known for the contradiction.
@matthewstokes1608 Жыл бұрын
@@lizziebkennedy7505 It does not diminish him at all to some of us - so stop speaking from your prurient, tame little perch of sanctimonious conformity, woman.
@jonharrison9222Ай бұрын
@@lizziebkennedy7505 You would have to be fairly asinine to think the venting in Larkin’s letters affects the poems.
@jillwalker9253 жыл бұрын
in North Face Of Soho clive james describes the weekly meeting of wits in london which he launched and where amis was king wit. in this conversation the two, many years later, are still competing - naming names and quoting like mad. james seems a bit pissed - keeping up and, characteristically, showing off his erudition. it may be as close as we'll get to seeing what those weekly 1970's brainfests were like.
@jonharrison9222Ай бұрын
They had three beers before lunch each on a working day and leered at passing women.
@ricardocima3 жыл бұрын
Come on, Celine's "Voyage" is amazing.
@G583 жыл бұрын
So many Hitch mannerisms in the Amis boy. But who influenced who? Both are great observers. Which one was the climber? It seems reasonable to find Amis innocent in this matter. Perhaps the more interesting question is which one deployed the resulting charm to greatest visual effect. Amis is deep and encyclopaedic. Hitch was more visible, and arguably more watchable.
@juliovillagran41052 жыл бұрын
I'd say Hitch was encyclopaedic himself.
@d.mavridopoulos662 жыл бұрын
I think Hitchens was more erudite than Amis. In his 'Inside story', Amis recounts with admiration how the Hitch gave him an impromptu lecture, on the origins of the first world war, starting his exposition with the battle of Kosovo in 1389. There's a wonderful essay by Hitch entitled 'Lightness at Midnight', were he implies that Amis's reading was deficient in the general area of Stalinist Communism, and even instances a couple of books. Also Hitch was superior in the way he summoned and marshalled facts, to deploy them effectively in an argument.
@jonharrison9222Ай бұрын
And Clive took apart Hitchens’ quaint insistence that all would have been fine had Lenin lived.
@G583 жыл бұрын
It seems churlish now to complain that the sound is all out of sync. Thank you for sharing Clive.
@douglasmilton28053 жыл бұрын
Greatly enjoyed this, especially when they talk about Larkin. A certain amount of eye-rolling exasperation (inevitably, given Larkin) but ultimately love and respect for a great poet. And a complete absence of the rancour which seems to be becoming almost compulsory these days.
@user-ue7wu2dh4o3 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Thanks for posting this.
@pigspigs763 жыл бұрын
Hope he directs a film before it's all said and done
@andrealiee3 жыл бұрын
ive fallen in love with suzi winstanley
@adrianmichaelkelly2773 жыл бұрын
Intelligent, artful, literate conversation, and on the Web, of all places: will miracles never cease?
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style gone mad....
james lived to 80 yo. amis only 73.
I can listen her for hours. So I pleasurably do
What year was this
my favorite actress a star 🌟 that shines💎🌟🇧🇷💜
Admire both writers! I like that Amis defends Borges from James’ attack on his character and supposed complicity (“Cultural Amnesia”) indeed, he was much more forgiving of his fellow writers than James. Today, we can only imagine two blokes publicly guffawing at the fellatio scene in “Portnoy’s Complaint”, how ironic they then moved on to the subject of censorship.
The idea of a man of Amis' accomplishments critiquing a man of Joyce's is laughable.
By that standard who is permitted to criticise a titan such as Joyce? Perhaps half a dozen are on his level and they're all dead.
@@QwidgyboManyeh that was a bizarre comment. By that logic there’d be no such thing as criticism
@@QwidgyboManAnd many of them also viewed Joyce's 'masterpieces' unfavourably. Evelyn Waugh, Aldous Huxley spring to mind first, even Nabokov another great stylist, but I would need to reconfirm his views as it's been awhile.
O
Thank you for uploading this series!
what year was this?
Suzi is beautiful. Her work is amazing
👍
Wagner was a genius composer but a failed dramatist -- not a single sympathetic character in any of his works, his texts are dreadful, his plots are basically buffo opera slowed to funeral march tempos, and the 'philosophical' content just a tutti frutti of odds ands ends bunged in and unresolved.
fellartio
He took his father's opinion very much on board, maybe too much. That you don't mimic the pronunciation of other languages if you're speaking English.
@@ianparker9231 but in doing so, is entirely mispronouncing the word...thus making him look rather silly billy in the process.
Martin references this in his memoir Experience funnily enough. That his Father always used to pronounce words in a rather peculiar way that as kids they could never understand. One day they asked Kingsley and he talked about not relying on spelling pronunciation and instead speaking words according to their natural rhythms. He considered it the posh or upper-class way of speaking. Martin does his too, a great deal.
After reading and watching him in such interviews over the years, I now feel as if I have lost a friend. RIP
I never knew fellatio and rococo are pronounced like that. Wonderful discussion.
They aren't
@@arthurriordan5760 they are, in Italy
It's upto you. I've always pronounced it like fell-eh-shio
My Struggle. 😂
It occurs to me that MA never seems more content than in the company of other writers. This is a delicious half hour.
RIP Martin Amis.
Farewell to an old and better world
Nadezhda Mandelshdam never wrote a good book. I disagree.
Barnes is a fine speaker but his works, after History of the World, are trivial. I know “The Sense of Ending” won the Booker but I thought a slight work at best
😂 if YOU say so…
Poor Jools, he’ll be gutted.
It's amazing how many mannerisms he shares here with C Hitchens. They do say that people begin to behave like each other when they spend time together.
They really were Very close, d'you follow me?
They both died of esophageal cancer 😔
Кейт Бланшетт лучшая галадриэль
Imagine basing your entire world-view on the opinion of imaginary friends. How can it be ‘unfair’ to criticise the Catholic Church for burning people at the stake, how it can by any less wrong simply because others did it?
I don’t think Oxford or Cambridge automatically makes better authors. Both seem to breed arrogance and dimwitery.
@jonharrison9222 ... a crisis of identity perhaps ...
She mentions her love for Liv Ullman at 3:12 and how amazing that in 2009, Cate asked Ullman to direct her in A Street Car Named Desire, considered to be one of her best stage performances. Amazing how things manifest.
2001 I believe that was. what an enlightening fellow, and a compassionate interviewer
Does anyone know what year this is? Mid 90s some time...
2001, I think
Oh my partner was telling me about the komdo dragon thing , hilarious
Love how they can jump from topic to topic seamlessly. They don't skip a beat.
You can tell that Amis hung around Hitchens alot. They have similar mannerisms.
Nabokov and Vidal imitations.
Think this is the most entertaining of all the Clive James Library interviews. Pity they only last half an hour, presumably because he wanted to sell them to a TV channel. Don't think that happened? I"m now desperate to see those Ruby Wax films.
Just realised this isn't an official account. 849 subscribers should have been a clue. This library series is missing some notable episodes, Victoria Wood, Emma Thompson, Tom Stoppard, ect. Fortunately available on other channels.
These interviews are fascinating. Whenever politics is discussed the views expressed have been proven not just wrong, but 180 degree wrong. So much for brilliant minds.
Liz Truss just joined the chat.
"America is strong enough to attack Afganistan". Yes PJ, but not strong enough to defeat it. And yes George W did prove the warmonger many of us knew he would be. Two clever centrists proving how stupid clever centrists can be.
I met Simon on the Ponte Vecchio in Florence about 5 years ago. Had one of those star struck moments where I wanted him to just keep talking to hear more of that voice but was too nervous to say anything. I felt stupid but he was very gracious.
No disrespect to them but I find their whole premise to be a bit of a gimmick. I grew up in remote Canada and I find it silly that people from London go to a random part of the world they know nothing about and see an animal for 5 minutes and think they know anything about it. Their just travelers that draw random animals. Nothing spectacular about it really. I dont find their work inspiring. Just Yuppies that can paint. Lovely people though.
They don't seem to disagree with you, though
''Style is an expression of perception''
suzi es una mujer increíble, que hombre tan afortunado es damon de tenerla a su lado! tan inteligente y hermosa<3
This aged well💀💀
@@Supernerdystranger 😭😭 es la última vez q digo algo
La Dejo por Jeziel Alexis el modelo de instagram 😢😢😢😢😢
Suzi es tan hermosa e increíble. Te amo Suzi por ti le hecho ganas a la vida.
Larkin will be remembered, that’s the difference here - after all the ltut-tutting.
Caring about injustice, cruelty and hypocrisy? Never stopped us loving TS Eliot. But the cruelty, ignorance and bigotry does greatly diminish Larkin. It's an astonishing gap in his sometimes extraordinary imagination. Those who reduce it to tut-tutting miss the whole point of literature. He'll always be best known for the contradiction.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 It does not diminish him at all to some of us - so stop speaking from your prurient, tame little perch of sanctimonious conformity, woman.
@@lizziebkennedy7505 You would have to be fairly asinine to think the venting in Larkin’s letters affects the poems.
in North Face Of Soho clive james describes the weekly meeting of wits in london which he launched and where amis was king wit. in this conversation the two, many years later, are still competing - naming names and quoting like mad. james seems a bit pissed - keeping up and, characteristically, showing off his erudition. it may be as close as we'll get to seeing what those weekly 1970's brainfests were like.
They had three beers before lunch each on a working day and leered at passing women.
Come on, Celine's "Voyage" is amazing.
So many Hitch mannerisms in the Amis boy. But who influenced who? Both are great observers. Which one was the climber? It seems reasonable to find Amis innocent in this matter. Perhaps the more interesting question is which one deployed the resulting charm to greatest visual effect. Amis is deep and encyclopaedic. Hitch was more visible, and arguably more watchable.
I'd say Hitch was encyclopaedic himself.
I think Hitchens was more erudite than Amis. In his 'Inside story', Amis recounts with admiration how the Hitch gave him an impromptu lecture, on the origins of the first world war, starting his exposition with the battle of Kosovo in 1389. There's a wonderful essay by Hitch entitled 'Lightness at Midnight', were he implies that Amis's reading was deficient in the general area of Stalinist Communism, and even instances a couple of books. Also Hitch was superior in the way he summoned and marshalled facts, to deploy them effectively in an argument.
And Clive took apart Hitchens’ quaint insistence that all would have been fine had Lenin lived.
It seems churlish now to complain that the sound is all out of sync. Thank you for sharing Clive.
Greatly enjoyed this, especially when they talk about Larkin. A certain amount of eye-rolling exasperation (inevitably, given Larkin) but ultimately love and respect for a great poet. And a complete absence of the rancour which seems to be becoming almost compulsory these days.
Loved it. Thanks for posting this.
Hope he directs a film before it's all said and done
ive fallen in love with suzi winstanley
Intelligent, artful, literate conversation, and on the Web, of all places: will miracles never cease?