The official youtube channel for Effective Altruism for Christians.
We’re a group of Christians from across the world who are involved in the effective altruism (EA) movement. Our paths have crossed because we are all moved by God’s call to love beyond borders and because we believe that effective altruism helps us do that better.
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Helpful to see what may put people off EA. I think it does tend to be too futuristic. There is some pride in thinking you are working on the most important problems. Be an atheist points 6/7 dont resonate for me. But for people who want to make some difference surely picking a problem that is more important and where your time/money makes more difference is better? It does not mean you cannot support a favoured, less 'important' cause just because you like it. In fact Peter Singer suggests just that in "The Life You Can Save".
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I spent 15 years coming up with various schemes to help people in Central America. After the first 5 it was obvious that cash to individuals with whom I’m in personal contact is the most efficient way to give. All others involve intermediaries with incentives to not solve problems.
Hey I'm not religious but this was a nice video. I wasn't familiar with many of these names, interesting
Thanks!
I am grateful for Effective Altruism. After working with humanitarian service, it is changing the landscape. Data matters. That is why I like Effective Altruism.
Effective Altruism isn't the problem. What people consider as Effective Altruism is the problem. People need to distinguish between the two. Effective Altruism is necessary. Humanitarian service needs to be backed up by data, which is Effective Altruism is needed. It is also important to analyze what people consider Effective Altruism. You have to carefully study, and understand what you are trying to help with. Effective Altruism is complex. A lot of the things necessary for Effective Altruism, are not always as presentable as smiling children, building wells, vaccines, and so on, even though those are good.
One reason why God loves a cheerful giver, is because you are given out of your heart. You're not giving because it's an obligation. You are doing it out of your own free will, even though you don't have to. It is a big test. The people are voluntarily given to something because they want to, then the person that exudes the characteristics of Christ
If you know what you're doing works better, then you're more confident about it. In a sense that would help you to be more cheerful about giving One of the reason why people don't want to give, is because they feel like it is a waste of money, doesn't work, or it doesn't make a difference when they give
He was one of the few MP's both sides of the Commons listened to, without interruption, and his library looks as though he actually reads books, rather than for decoration. Hope he comes back, so tories are a broad church again.
The world really has fallen when clowns pass for sages..
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Thank you so much to all the organisers and the speaker. I live in Africa specifically Tanzania. Sure it is hard but we are not stupid at all many of are educated now but can't really do anything without jobs or funds to start businesses
EA is a cult modeled after Scientology... steer clear!!
timestamps and my notes (please watch video Rory's exact wording): 7:33 Too many charities (e.g. 15,000 charities alone working on prisons in England & Wales) ... Everyone has good intentions, but problem is implementation (in particular the extraordinary LACK OF IMPACT large sums of money can have) 9:45 visited hundreds and hundreds of developmental projects in 45 countries in 30 years 11:08 #1 of 5 = capacity building model 12:24 #2 of 5 = problem of vanity of the wealthy 16:59 #3 of 5 = vested interest of the charities 17:42 #4 of 5 = tax payers and voters have expectations 18:59 #5 of 5 = psychological barrier to cash we carry 21:00 extreme poverty improvements in China since 1980, but opposite in Africa 24:40 170 billion spent on extreme poverty by governments and UN, but don't have recipe for doing it 28:51 why not more outspoken about being Christian, because developing 30:48 impressions of EA is revolutionary ... Compare to current standards (e.g. 130 million dollar program MAY HAVE improved economic conditions of only 52 women) 33:09 dangerous to rely only on spreadsheets because can conceal things 37:18 EA is incredible discipline to subject international development to (compared to current standards, have seen multiple 3 million dollar programs with 0 impact) 38:11 what Christian EAs can do to be helpful 40:28 more skeptical of direct cash solving homelessness in UK/US 43:53 how to balance ambition with biblical view of human fragility? 45:52 thoughts on factory farming
Ancient Wisdom in Australian society would point out that only questions you already know the answer to are askable and there's no permission granted to ask or examine evidence lying all around in plain sight. Thanks for trying.
Close the curtains properly.
Talked about Rory 'Crisis What Crisis' podcast on radio phone in. My positive contribution not shared by host Alan Beswick.
This channel needs more views!🤔
So interesting but unfortunately you are too intellectual for the morons in government .we missed out on a man who would have been a great prime minister
What a refreshing and on topic speech Rory. I am neither a Conservative or a Christian but I find myself agreeing with you pretty much always. Scary!😊
I flew to Zanzibar, took the science and IT equipment with me, helped the principal and community build the library and IT centre, paid for 10 years of internet and then got back on the plane. I still get a yearly email from the Langoni Secondary school.
Internet access could be given free, to third world schools and universities. Companies like sky make billions from overcharging the West.
Educate girls! That is the best place to start!
Very sorry but waht a wet fool this guy is .... we dont need any Altruism we need some Tough Love people need 2 stand on there own 2 feet and stop flopping on otheres If the 10% who made money in this country like Sir Jim Radcliffe were allowed to keep there money and the government and All its regulations would Get the. Hell out of the way then this country would be wealthy and independent and healthy right now people are fed and watered and shelterd and yet are drug addicted depressed unhappy and stressed Thats because they want to hunt not be fed....... Altruism is where 4 lazy people plan 9n how to spend a hard working mans money so they can carry on sitting around moaning about how hard life is
You really must be looking forward to a Republican victory next year?
The Myth of Rory Stewart.
I believe altruism is a one-way street. In my direction!
The idea seems plausible. But I am concerned that it overlays an unspoken attempt at proselytising to the desperately needy which I consider deeply amoral.
The entire crux of GiveDirectly is to provide sovereignty, and acknowledge the dignity, of the individuals in need. In no way is that indicative of proselytising, it’s the complete antithesis .
Well said Rory Stewart.
I’m all for altruism as long as Christians are not threatening others with death, hell and demons which has been proven to be threats of the ancient Roman Catholic Church to control the populous and perpetuated by stubborn willfully ignorant people that can’t figure out where their religion came from.
They live in exteme poverty because the west will not allow them fossil fuels because of the insane green agenda. Rory hasn't changed , airy fairy or what!
We don't need Altruism because the last thing we need are filthy rich sociopathic altruists who, for every 10 monetary units they extract from us are now grandly willing to return 1/10 of their loot, albeit with one proviso; that the Rory Stewarts and assorted establishment clowns, on this near neo-feudal rentiers-occupied rock, petition their victims to erect monuments to their generosity, name stadiums and public spaces after them, warships! This goes far beyond mere and deserved, when deserved ,cynicism; this is ponerogentic, Dark Triad spectrum, sort of stuff...
I found this conversation to be deeply moving and honest. I believe it to be very hard indeed to help the poor. I have always believed that other cultures deserved to respected but helped in a manner that left their culture in tact. I would never impose my views on others…as the best in the world. I would learn what is helpful to that particular culture and try and use modern and up to date measure if I could…but never force something! I am an atheist.
The solution to extreme poverty is known. It is the empowerment and emancipation of women. Release women from the tyranny of their reproductive cycle and role and the economic floor of every society rises. Religion is implacably against this idea.
Still supporting Fox hunting Rory? W4nker
You have increasing poverty in the West, that is the main reason we have depression. When you can't afford shelter and food, that is very depressing. Add inflation and stagnant zero hour contract type wages and you get despair and deprivation.
You could pay your tax, stop lobbying the government for tax breaks, stop looting the so called charities, stop hoarding so much money for yourself. You could also stop developing foundations and trusts that has opaque accounting practices. And you could stop pretending to love humanity when it's money you truly love.
For all it's faults, China has lifted millions out of poverty, whilst in the West our politicians are busy destroying the social safety net and plunging more and more people into absolutely poverty , where working people are living in their vehicles, the nhs is being destroying etc.
Imagine the joy, to so many, of having running water and reliable sanitation. It really should be available to everyone.
'Blessed are the rich' as usual.
Being 70. Lifelong learning, understanding, observation, experience, re-examination 24/7 365. In all my days I see western culture imposing its ideology upon other radically different cultures that encompass far more radical differences within their communities and outlying provinces than the western civilization could even begin to understand, and so the innocently ignorant 'do-gooders' at all levels ploughs on regardless and still the problems continue. There will be no final solution whilst the system remains the same
Final solution?
EA for Christians? Is this not a false idol?
They desperately want to be accepted by the secular world
Yes, EA is a cult based on utilitarianism. There is no inherent value of the individual in their eyes, making it the exact opposite of Christianity. In their worldview, the needs of the many completely outweigh the needs of the few... therefore slavery is a societal good to them.
Jesus never spent any time helping the poor of course.
@@lukeharrison1655Your statement is a logical fallacy. You're probably a teenager, so I think you might enjoy researching logical fallacies to learn more about them, and figure out which fallacies this one falls under.
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Thought provoking interview.
Western secular Calvinism is pure evil. You will never be more effective in teaching a man to fish than to reach a man to use a gun. We are corrupt, not the poor.
Brilliant presentation. I'm glad i came across it
Me too.
Says the man that supported virtually every austerity measure introduced by Cameron and Osborne!
It was quite reasonable to support austerity. Why should the state live beyond its means for such an extensive length of time?
@@HomemadeBrownies1 Perhaps you ought to understand why austerity isn't a great idea. Rather than expanding growth and opportunity this moribund economic idea has virtually always led to low growth and increasing income and wealth inequality. Austerity is a pseudo- intellectual justification for the latter. kzread.info/dash/bejne/maNmxLiAmZO4lag.html
Despite colonising all these countries you still learnt nothing about them?
These countries learnt more and improved.
I'm sorry. Rory is a nice chap who seems to be genuinely caring, unlike 90% of the rest of his former party of brigands, racists and cultists, but he's still depressingly naive, probably because of his ridiculously privileged life. Oh, and he's pro-fox hunting and thinks anyone who talks with an urban accent while not wearing a suit is a "minor gangster," so he can probably jog on back to his daddy's country pile and stay there.
It is impossible to listen to this without profound respect and hopeful understanding! Even with the ray of sun across Rory's face... Maybe that was a spiritual light! It has certainly challenged some established assumptions and given "cash" a very different dimension. Feeding the thoughts is also important; then maybe the bodies will also get better fed. 🙏🏻
No. It was the sun.
Does The West really want to bring Africa out of poverty ? 🤔 I’m not sure.
I think Rory may swing too far in the other direction. How do we know the autonomy and dignity of cash work? The research on micro-loans is mixed. It may be one tool in the toolkit. I think he inclines a bit too far towards seeing it as a panacea because of his ideological commitments. We should trust it as a method insofar as it works. No further. The results are mixed so my trust in the method is mixed.
You are correct, the impact of micro-loans is mixed. However, regarding unconditional cash transfers, there are over 72 randomised controlled trials studies. The results are overwhelmingly positive.
Such a great talk! Thank you very much Dr. Dominic Roser and EA for Christians
Thanks!