Watching your video as I now have a chance to clean up the mess I inherited lol - just got new switches....
@marcdunn7716Күн бұрын
Beautiful. Thanks for the share
@wizsc2 күн бұрын
Too bad so little views. Im just overhauling my home network in my garage and ramping the game up a bit here and there and this stuff is gold man.
@tciproductionsКүн бұрын
I thought we did okay on views! Glad it was helpful.
@fiveaboy2 күн бұрын
what screwdriver is that?!
@yatishbhandari60283 күн бұрын
We are working on a renovation and have access to all the studs behind the drywall (and through the attic). Would you still recommend going through the ceiling for the wires? I was thinking I could drill some holes on the stud at the top, bring the wires in through the studd, so that they are behind the drywall and then are out horizontally directly on the rack. Thoughts?
@tciproductions2 күн бұрын
If the house is in framing I will use any pathway through the studs that makes logical sense, sometimes this means drilling half inch holes sideways through the studs and threading the cable through, and other times it means drilling down like you suggest. If you can, try and give yourself room for future maintenance in case you ever need to add something later. That might be just a pull string, or it might mean a wider access hole with room for your hand. I think it's a good idea not to have the wire bundle visible, that's for sure.
@neddy17033 күн бұрын
What a great video, thank you!!
@jhunrodriguez81595 күн бұрын
thanks alot sir!
@rommelcanda57426 күн бұрын
Are your guys, Asians? From the Philippines here.
@tciproductions5 күн бұрын
In Hawaii there's all kinds of folks from all over the pacific rim, so we have an excellent variety.
@BladeWDR6 күн бұрын
What a waste of perfectly good CAT6. 😢
@Henry_Jones6 күн бұрын
Im suprised they dont just leave the wiring. Why not leave it for the next tenant? Why rip it out? You dont remove electrical and you want data close to power.
@tciproductions6 күн бұрын
From talking to landlords I have met, they don't appreciate the layers of network cable that build up in ceiling over the course of 3-4 leasing cycles with different tenants. I have removed cat5 and come across tons of cat3, old rg11 and rg59 stuff, all manner of BNC, token ring, and DB25 terminal cables all in the same office. That said, if it already had cat6 I would gladly move right in as a new tenant, it would be a gift to get a pre-wired space.
@chrisrjrose5 күн бұрын
Typically in my region the network cabling is left by the tenant. We are always being asked to reuse existing cabling. But when adding a new run we find all the old cables and it can be a real big mess, so I can definitely see the case for removing the cabling.
@user-br9zv6lb5h5 күн бұрын
When we took over our offices the Cat 6 was already there. We just hooked our IT Network and Norstar Meridian phone system to it. Saved a lot of work (and money).
@MichaelAlderete6 күн бұрын
I sure do wish you were located in the Coachella Valley (where Palm Springs is). Finding a data cabling specialist who has your skills and attention to detail seems to be impossible. The one bid I've gotten for my house (a smaller job than you'd do, I imagine) was so vague, and didn't match the detailed project description I provided sufficiently, it felt like the entire installation would be a series of questions and (cost increasing) change orders. So I still have my hillbilly wiring stapled to my ceiling to run from one side of the house to the other...
@tciproductions6 күн бұрын
I appreciate you saying so :) I'm really surprised they are hard to find, it seems like CA is where the data infrastructure folks really thrive. I've had some good luck with electricians if they are into tech stuff, it is a similar job type, and they do learn cat6 as part of their training nowadays.
@MichaelAlderete5 күн бұрын
@@tciproductions I found a great installer in the Bay Area (Kray Cabling), they did a terrific job installing into an 100+ year old Victorian. Really seamless. And if I was closer to Los Angeles, I'd have no shortage of options. But here in the Coachella Valley, the population isn't large enough to support a vibrant ecosystem of specialized contractors (or so it seems). If you're building a custom house, or doing larger remodels, you can find people easily. But smaller jobs, like my house, it's hard to find anyone interested in even calling back. (I think half of that is my fault, you need to be persistent with most contractors in _any_ market, and doubly so here, it seems...)
@samjones43276 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your video and teaching us about your craft! I appreciate it! Cheers!
@OneTrueKing236 күн бұрын
Hi to Hawaii! Amazing video as always
@FilipKohout7 күн бұрын
Greetings from Europe - Prague. I'm a little envious of plasterboard partitions and raster ceilings. many offices are in old buildings where the cables are under the plaster and nothing can be done with them. most often, the original distribution is left and a new one is added in the cable conduits. But in general, it can be said that the exchange of cat5, 5e is poorly defended to customers "after all, it works". How are you selling network upgrades?
@OneTrueKing236 күн бұрын
Hello from Canada - Ottawa. Jsem Cecho-Kanadan a pracuju tady jako sysadmin a ne primo network engineer ale k vasemu dotazu: pokud je potreba v office privest nove zasiteni, tak misto ve zdi se kabely vedou stropem v drop ceiling nad panelama ktere se daji vyndat rukou. Kabely se svadi na centralni misto na patre kde je switch a patra jsou spojene paternim vysokorychlostnim optickym kabelem. 1Gbit copper je skutecne dostatecna rychlost pro vetsinu host devices, jako jsou pocitace a kamery, pokud mate tým ktery pracuje s video media kde je vetsi bandwidth potreba, vetsinou se jejich pocitace pripojuji pres reinforced multimode fiber.
@tciproductions6 күн бұрын
I actually find it a difficult proposition to sell folks on upgrading from cat5 to cat6. The IT guys within my client's companies are usually the driving force for an upgrade, more so than any pitch I could make to them. And of course, if there's no real gain for the client I don't try to suggest an upgrade if things are already built.
@irlshrek7 күн бұрын
bravo
@tsaichu7 күн бұрын
Office Space FTW
@pri10777 күн бұрын
perfect .. good work
@TheTastefulThickness7 күн бұрын
Why not use female to female patch panel couplers so you dont have to wire anything
@tciproductions7 күн бұрын
The locations were new outlets for the bulk of them.
@matthewjoyal40888 күн бұрын
Very professional job
@rammone52419 күн бұрын
I bought the first version 5 years ago, if you are using 900um buffer it takes practice, the holder is meant for jacket fiber, if you have burning experience you can see there is only a few mm of channel for 900 um fiber. You have to slowly lower the clamps and make sure that buffer does not move. The core alignment is very good, just takes A LOT of practice to get below .02 db. After 100 splices you will be a pro. If you have used the 20 k splices, you might want to avoid this, you are spoiled. If you are doing a few splices a day, like FDN and DIA, or break fix, this will do it. In data center on a new job, no. I was very impress by how compact it is and all the tools were sufficient. As starter splice, I do recommend.
@Chukijay10 күн бұрын
Always a nice thing to see somebody do a good job. This was a nice room/rack the team provided.
@davidoram478510 күн бұрын
That's cool - thanks for sharing. Definitely inspired me for my own very small build
@MrChadwh11 күн бұрын
1:1 patch port to switch is only good when dealing with small networks. If you have a large network, you would want to avoid this. In a large network, t's common to have many of your patch panels lead to "dead" lines, where there is no client at the end. It's better to separate your switches and patch panels in this scenario.
@tciproductions9 күн бұрын
I agree for sure - vendors adding equipment will cause patch cables to break the pattern and eventually make a mess. I still get a lot of heat for using horizontal and vertical cable managers in my vids :)
@jolex_nerd813211 күн бұрын
in my personal preference, if i got a 24-port switch that doesn't line up well, i will get two unloaded patch panels and put the switch in the middle and use 6" patch cables anyway. it takes one less rack unit and lets me upgrade the switch if i need more than 24.
@kristopherleslie834317 күн бұрын
Having a battery by the panels 😂 not a good look but understandable
@davidscott431818 күн бұрын
Oh okay, understand, thanks for your channel, very interesting how techniques differ here in Australia.
@tciproductions18 күн бұрын
I hear the USA is a bit unusual in that we use drywall everywhere vs brick or concrete. Our US field techs don't always have the right experience and tools to deal with concrete. They usually request a backboard like this for their own stuff since it doesn't fit a rack so well. Is it like that in Australia?
@davidscott431818 күн бұрын
Office partitions in Australia are usually drywall with metal studs. A wall rack would normally be mounted directly into the drywall ensuring bolts go into the vertical studs.
@antonio_carvalho18 күн бұрын
Never bothered to check out netplay before, thank you for bringing this up! Will be awesome to play together with my nephew.
@fieldtechacademy19 күн бұрын
I just ran across your channel from KZread recommending one of my videos from yours. You are providing great content that teaches real world skills with great quality videos. I've saved some of your videos to one of my playlists to share with my channel. Many of my viewers ask how they can learn skills like you are showing so I'm curious if you'd consider being a guest on my channel to discuss what you do and introduce my viewers to your content. Thoughts?
@BladeWDR19 күн бұрын
What's the purpose of the empty 1U patch panel? Just something they had lying around? Otherwise, a really good looking end result. I wish half the networks I walked into were so structured. :D
@tciproductions19 күн бұрын
I think we were expecting new additions as the staff moved in, but it never came to pass, so we removed it later. Usually people ask for just a couple more wires, and we'd have exceeded the 96 count I think.
@aguyandhiscomputer19 күн бұрын
Great video always. Love the cable combing.
@agt31319 күн бұрын
Thanks
@sifisoalexmkhaliphi885319 күн бұрын
Love your work. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work.
@SyberPrepper19 күн бұрын
You all do a great job. I'm learning from you and using your techniques whenever I can. Wondering why metal 4" EMT rather than plastic? Not a critique. Just a question. Thanks for another great video.
@ggsgonzales19 күн бұрын
So your idea of taking a break from networking videos is to make a video about networking. Got it. 😁
@robertmcgehee94919 күн бұрын
The neat patches are an extra cost and not needed. Just use 6" or 1' patch cords.
@mrcszav2519 күн бұрын
what ladder are you using? Been looking for something similar to use for roof top access locations.
@tciproductions19 күн бұрын
So for a leaning ladder, I use this one from usteps: amzn.to/3W66T4Q and for the A-frame, I use this style: amzn.to/4eZCDkV I am sorry to say that prices have skyrocketed since I bought my fleet of ladders, so if you see a cheaper one then don't hesitate to grab it up. The usteps are quite good, I have bought many types and theirs is the least likely to smash your fingers on collapse.
@ICgasm19 күн бұрын
We use the Snap D-rings which allows you to add more cables for future installs, it cuts down on zip tie waste.
@PhobosTK19 күн бұрын
23:31 are these fans poe or do they have their own dedicated psu?
@tciproductions19 күн бұрын
They use a standard power plug and would go into a normal power strip socket or similar. They are pretty common in the Navepoint brand network racks, I don't always utilize them though. A PoE modification would be pretty cool actually.
@StenIsaksson19 күн бұрын
A friend call it Homie Depot :)
@davidscott431819 күн бұрын
Can't understand why you need the backboard? Why not screw the cabinet directly onto the concrete?
@tciproductions19 күн бұрын
Usually the backboard is there for miscellaneous ISP and telco devices, or security boxes like door controls. We have to give their field guys something they can screw into easily.
@farhan-app19 күн бұрын
Great video!!!!!
@docugraf20 күн бұрын
I don't get the advantages of an additional backerboard on a concrete wall.
@patrickkinsella806718 күн бұрын
Its handy for any little extra devices. You just have to put a couple of scrws into wood and not worry about drillling into conrete for a littel controller or isp devices, etc.
@Jr272820 күн бұрын
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@midnightwatchman120 күн бұрын
I usually do not use a back board unless it an open cabinet or no cabinet
@JuanPablo.54720 күн бұрын
It's such a good feeling when you have the proper tools, clean work as always!
@kristopherleslie834317 күн бұрын
Proper takes $
@pepeshopping20 күн бұрын
Good work. Surprised you have to spent time getting a piece of wood and screws. I try to have 100% of everything I could ever need, in stock.
@tciproductions20 күн бұрын
I burn through them fast. I keep a lot of it in stock, but I wanted to go shopping for tools :)
@baseballlion161520 күн бұрын
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@szymon.szczesniak20 күн бұрын
Jak zawsze dobra robota. Dziękuję za kolejny film i pozdrawiam.
@tciproductions20 күн бұрын
Thank you for saying so, I appreciate that
@user-br9zv6lb5h20 күн бұрын
Wish I'd seen your videos a few years ago. Would have helped me with my Networks module. If you are using 48 ports, could you not have a 48 port switch and two 24 patch panels above and below. With a Cable Manager under each switch? You've just answered my question. :) I like the idea of keeping instruction manuals inside the patch manager. Stops them getting lost or damaged.
@rexobeacon167720 күн бұрын
This is so much better than school, thank you for making this Video !!
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Watching your video as I now have a chance to clean up the mess I inherited lol - just got new switches....
Beautiful. Thanks for the share
Too bad so little views. Im just overhauling my home network in my garage and ramping the game up a bit here and there and this stuff is gold man.
I thought we did okay on views! Glad it was helpful.
what screwdriver is that?!
We are working on a renovation and have access to all the studs behind the drywall (and through the attic). Would you still recommend going through the ceiling for the wires? I was thinking I could drill some holes on the stud at the top, bring the wires in through the studd, so that they are behind the drywall and then are out horizontally directly on the rack. Thoughts?
If the house is in framing I will use any pathway through the studs that makes logical sense, sometimes this means drilling half inch holes sideways through the studs and threading the cable through, and other times it means drilling down like you suggest. If you can, try and give yourself room for future maintenance in case you ever need to add something later. That might be just a pull string, or it might mean a wider access hole with room for your hand. I think it's a good idea not to have the wire bundle visible, that's for sure.
What a great video, thank you!!
thanks alot sir!
Are your guys, Asians? From the Philippines here.
In Hawaii there's all kinds of folks from all over the pacific rim, so we have an excellent variety.
What a waste of perfectly good CAT6. 😢
Im suprised they dont just leave the wiring. Why not leave it for the next tenant? Why rip it out? You dont remove electrical and you want data close to power.
From talking to landlords I have met, they don't appreciate the layers of network cable that build up in ceiling over the course of 3-4 leasing cycles with different tenants. I have removed cat5 and come across tons of cat3, old rg11 and rg59 stuff, all manner of BNC, token ring, and DB25 terminal cables all in the same office. That said, if it already had cat6 I would gladly move right in as a new tenant, it would be a gift to get a pre-wired space.
Typically in my region the network cabling is left by the tenant. We are always being asked to reuse existing cabling. But when adding a new run we find all the old cables and it can be a real big mess, so I can definitely see the case for removing the cabling.
When we took over our offices the Cat 6 was already there. We just hooked our IT Network and Norstar Meridian phone system to it. Saved a lot of work (and money).
I sure do wish you were located in the Coachella Valley (where Palm Springs is). Finding a data cabling specialist who has your skills and attention to detail seems to be impossible. The one bid I've gotten for my house (a smaller job than you'd do, I imagine) was so vague, and didn't match the detailed project description I provided sufficiently, it felt like the entire installation would be a series of questions and (cost increasing) change orders. So I still have my hillbilly wiring stapled to my ceiling to run from one side of the house to the other...
I appreciate you saying so :) I'm really surprised they are hard to find, it seems like CA is where the data infrastructure folks really thrive. I've had some good luck with electricians if they are into tech stuff, it is a similar job type, and they do learn cat6 as part of their training nowadays.
@@tciproductions I found a great installer in the Bay Area (Kray Cabling), they did a terrific job installing into an 100+ year old Victorian. Really seamless. And if I was closer to Los Angeles, I'd have no shortage of options. But here in the Coachella Valley, the population isn't large enough to support a vibrant ecosystem of specialized contractors (or so it seems). If you're building a custom house, or doing larger remodels, you can find people easily. But smaller jobs, like my house, it's hard to find anyone interested in even calling back. (I think half of that is my fault, you need to be persistent with most contractors in _any_ market, and doubly so here, it seems...)
Thank you for sharing your video and teaching us about your craft! I appreciate it! Cheers!
Hi to Hawaii! Amazing video as always
Greetings from Europe - Prague. I'm a little envious of plasterboard partitions and raster ceilings. many offices are in old buildings where the cables are under the plaster and nothing can be done with them. most often, the original distribution is left and a new one is added in the cable conduits. But in general, it can be said that the exchange of cat5, 5e is poorly defended to customers "after all, it works". How are you selling network upgrades?
Hello from Canada - Ottawa. Jsem Cecho-Kanadan a pracuju tady jako sysadmin a ne primo network engineer ale k vasemu dotazu: pokud je potreba v office privest nove zasiteni, tak misto ve zdi se kabely vedou stropem v drop ceiling nad panelama ktere se daji vyndat rukou. Kabely se svadi na centralni misto na patre kde je switch a patra jsou spojene paternim vysokorychlostnim optickym kabelem. 1Gbit copper je skutecne dostatecna rychlost pro vetsinu host devices, jako jsou pocitace a kamery, pokud mate tým ktery pracuje s video media kde je vetsi bandwidth potreba, vetsinou se jejich pocitace pripojuji pres reinforced multimode fiber.
I actually find it a difficult proposition to sell folks on upgrading from cat5 to cat6. The IT guys within my client's companies are usually the driving force for an upgrade, more so than any pitch I could make to them. And of course, if there's no real gain for the client I don't try to suggest an upgrade if things are already built.
bravo
Office Space FTW
perfect .. good work
Why not use female to female patch panel couplers so you dont have to wire anything
The locations were new outlets for the bulk of them.
Very professional job
I bought the first version 5 years ago, if you are using 900um buffer it takes practice, the holder is meant for jacket fiber, if you have burning experience you can see there is only a few mm of channel for 900 um fiber. You have to slowly lower the clamps and make sure that buffer does not move. The core alignment is very good, just takes A LOT of practice to get below .02 db. After 100 splices you will be a pro. If you have used the 20 k splices, you might want to avoid this, you are spoiled. If you are doing a few splices a day, like FDN and DIA, or break fix, this will do it. In data center on a new job, no. I was very impress by how compact it is and all the tools were sufficient. As starter splice, I do recommend.
Always a nice thing to see somebody do a good job. This was a nice room/rack the team provided.
That's cool - thanks for sharing. Definitely inspired me for my own very small build
1:1 patch port to switch is only good when dealing with small networks. If you have a large network, you would want to avoid this. In a large network, t's common to have many of your patch panels lead to "dead" lines, where there is no client at the end. It's better to separate your switches and patch panels in this scenario.
I agree for sure - vendors adding equipment will cause patch cables to break the pattern and eventually make a mess. I still get a lot of heat for using horizontal and vertical cable managers in my vids :)
in my personal preference, if i got a 24-port switch that doesn't line up well, i will get two unloaded patch panels and put the switch in the middle and use 6" patch cables anyway. it takes one less rack unit and lets me upgrade the switch if i need more than 24.
Having a battery by the panels 😂 not a good look but understandable
Oh okay, understand, thanks for your channel, very interesting how techniques differ here in Australia.
I hear the USA is a bit unusual in that we use drywall everywhere vs brick or concrete. Our US field techs don't always have the right experience and tools to deal with concrete. They usually request a backboard like this for their own stuff since it doesn't fit a rack so well. Is it like that in Australia?
Office partitions in Australia are usually drywall with metal studs. A wall rack would normally be mounted directly into the drywall ensuring bolts go into the vertical studs.
Never bothered to check out netplay before, thank you for bringing this up! Will be awesome to play together with my nephew.
I just ran across your channel from KZread recommending one of my videos from yours. You are providing great content that teaches real world skills with great quality videos. I've saved some of your videos to one of my playlists to share with my channel. Many of my viewers ask how they can learn skills like you are showing so I'm curious if you'd consider being a guest on my channel to discuss what you do and introduce my viewers to your content. Thoughts?
What's the purpose of the empty 1U patch panel? Just something they had lying around? Otherwise, a really good looking end result. I wish half the networks I walked into were so structured. :D
I think we were expecting new additions as the staff moved in, but it never came to pass, so we removed it later. Usually people ask for just a couple more wires, and we'd have exceeded the 96 count I think.
Great video always. Love the cable combing.
Thanks
Love your work. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work.
You all do a great job. I'm learning from you and using your techniques whenever I can. Wondering why metal 4" EMT rather than plastic? Not a critique. Just a question. Thanks for another great video.
So your idea of taking a break from networking videos is to make a video about networking. Got it. 😁
The neat patches are an extra cost and not needed. Just use 6" or 1' patch cords.
what ladder are you using? Been looking for something similar to use for roof top access locations.
So for a leaning ladder, I use this one from usteps: amzn.to/3W66T4Q and for the A-frame, I use this style: amzn.to/4eZCDkV I am sorry to say that prices have skyrocketed since I bought my fleet of ladders, so if you see a cheaper one then don't hesitate to grab it up. The usteps are quite good, I have bought many types and theirs is the least likely to smash your fingers on collapse.
We use the Snap D-rings which allows you to add more cables for future installs, it cuts down on zip tie waste.
23:31 are these fans poe or do they have their own dedicated psu?
They use a standard power plug and would go into a normal power strip socket or similar. They are pretty common in the Navepoint brand network racks, I don't always utilize them though. A PoE modification would be pretty cool actually.
A friend call it Homie Depot :)
Can't understand why you need the backboard? Why not screw the cabinet directly onto the concrete?
Usually the backboard is there for miscellaneous ISP and telco devices, or security boxes like door controls. We have to give their field guys something they can screw into easily.
Great video!!!!!
I don't get the advantages of an additional backerboard on a concrete wall.
Its handy for any little extra devices. You just have to put a couple of scrws into wood and not worry about drillling into conrete for a littel controller or isp devices, etc.
More of this Contact
I usually do not use a back board unless it an open cabinet or no cabinet
It's such a good feeling when you have the proper tools, clean work as always!
Proper takes $
Good work. Surprised you have to spent time getting a piece of wood and screws. I try to have 100% of everything I could ever need, in stock.
I burn through them fast. I keep a lot of it in stock, but I wanted to go shopping for tools :)
Second
Jak zawsze dobra robota. Dziękuję za kolejny film i pozdrawiam.
Thank you for saying so, I appreciate that
Wish I'd seen your videos a few years ago. Would have helped me with my Networks module. If you are using 48 ports, could you not have a 48 port switch and two 24 patch panels above and below. With a Cable Manager under each switch? You've just answered my question. :) I like the idea of keeping instruction manuals inside the patch manager. Stops them getting lost or damaged.
This is so much better than school, thank you for making this Video !!
Thank you for those kind words!