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I agree that the banquet scene should’ve been included but not to show them settling in & relaxing their guard. Just the opposite really. It would have shown the underlying tension of the different populations on the planet & the scheming going on between & around them. Also, I would’ve loved to have seen the garden/terrarium in the house to foreshadow what the dream for Arrakis is, to be able to repopulate the planet w/indigenous flora once the ecosystem is restored. Ah, well. There’s not room for everything & I will be glad for what we did get.
this is sad, you are praising someone for things you dont know intentional or not, your pretentionsness is so pathetic, you are at the same level as the zack snyder fans, and its worst because you think you're better
Bloodborne is the best lovecraftian story since Lovecraft, if you can't play it read Paleblood Hunt by Redgrave or listen to incredible audiobook.
Awesome topic (what timing. I happen to be going through the Lovecraft audio collection right now on Horrorbabble) As a lover of epistemology, his delves into what is knowable and what lies beyond understanding is been a 'cyclopean' delight. loved the subliminal scene; very clever. 😉 (unless I am the only one who saw that. Have I gone mad?!!)
Haha, yeah that quick flash was awesome
1:27m …you cheeky cheeky scholars. Gave me a jump scare, then I had to rewind.
Glad to hear it! There's some great audio versions of HPL and it's a convenient way to explore his vast catalogue. I also recommend the BBC audio dramas, one of which will be on the new course. Well done on catching the subliminal scene :) You've avoided a descent into madness... for now!
Please could you let Bronwyn Rivera know that they have misspelled Cthulhu! Not the best ad for a course about Lovecraft eh?
@@thevaultsofmctavish Cthulhu appears twice in the article and it's spelled correctly both times. Where is it spelled incorrectly?
Please note: Unfortunately, following the recording of this Signum Symposia event, we have decided to postpone "Literary Copernicus: The Cosmic Fiction of H.P. Lovecraft" until the Fall 2023 semester.
We've managed to force Cthulhu back into R'lyeh but it is only a passing victory... He will return, more terrible than before! But seriously, looking forward to teaching this course in the Fall term instead :)
Correction: I misspoke when I said Cthulhu was one of the Elder Gods... he is actually one of the Great Old Ones, whom the Elder Gods oppose! (Too much eldritch knowledge drove me temporarily insane, causing me to say the wrong thing in the moment!)
Sad to see these people have turned shills for Amazon's abomination. Shame on you guys
Great discussion, many thanks for this!
I forgot to say that I'm also reading Lovecraft Country by Matt Ruff at the moment! Listening to it as an audiobook and really enjoying it (although it is harrowing, too).
Just wanted to stop by and say I'm so sorry crazy Tolkien purists are ruining youtube at the moment. But yeah I enjoy your content, keep it up.
While I agree, this was not the best depiction of Bruce Wayne, we must also afford him the grace to figure out who Bruce Wayne is. If we afford Batman the grace to develop who he is, we have to allow Bruce Wayne to develop who he is. Bruce Wayne IS Batman and he has to figure out what his Bruce mask will be to protect himself. I'm probably affording the film makers way more credit in their planning, but i have to hold out hope. RP was clearly the best Batman ever, but that could be his natural state and Bruce Wayne is truly the mask.
Not everyone is a Batman expert and us fans always appreciate legitimate discussion about a medium and character that doesn't always warrant scholastic exploration. I hope there are further discussions about DC characters in the future. Thanks!
I continue to be surprised at those who don't see Bruce Wayne primarily is trying to deal with his own personal traumas--or if they do see that, find it pathetic. Frankly, I wonder at anyone who doesn't see the pain Bruce feels, and doesn't find it in their hearts to sympathize. This is actually the first Batman who inspired fear in me. The very first. I love how this Bruce Wayne grows into a wiser man. Frankly so many times I've seen people watch this film and feel a powerful connection between Selina and Batman. Others don't see it. I don't understand how people don't see it. All this feels very dry and academic, with frankly not much nuance.
I can not lie this movie surprised the heck out of me because Robert was not on my list of anyone who could portray Batman well (but I feel he did do better then Ben A.) I had hoped it would sort of be a continuance from the show Gotham but that was not a high hope however I knew it was to be more of a film noir detective style which I looked forward to being a fan of the post death of Robin Batman. The only thing that I was disappointed with was the line to Alfred "you're not my father" because Bruce Wayne always saw Alfred as the father figure.
Why can't I see the live chat even in retrospect?
Fortunately not shut down to comments❣
Why didn't Frank Herbert or Denis Villenuve make the characters non binary LGBTQ+ ? The forms of entertainment must match the political & social zeitgeist to gain our approval.
Representation of LGBTQ characters is important, but far from the only issue in our political and social zeitgeist. To be fair, the book was written 50 years ago, which was a very different time. I'd argue the film has a lot to say about contemporary issues, from environmental change to the rise of charismatic demagogues. Some of these issues are a bit more apparent in the novel.
I think the movie is just perfect the way it is! It's stunning and epic and the world building is other-wordly. As far as the storytelling is concerned, that wasn't Villeneuve 's intention to tell a story in the first place. That's what the book does. Villeneuve 's purpose was to give you a spiritual cinematic experience of the senses. The movie focuses on Paul's journey and on making Arrakis feel alive. To convey the power of nature and the dramatic relationship between the natives and the harsh environment they live in. It's not your avarage action-packed blockbuster. It was never meant to be. It's not for mainstream audiences. It's a movie for the initiated. It's filled with arcaic symbolism and with an eerie mystical atmosphere, giving much space to the onirical dimension. Last but not least, the craft used in this movie is top-notch.
I agree. It's such an excellent companion to the book. As I said in the video, the movie didn't capture everything about the book, but I felt like it captured the look and feel of the novel.
Which novels from the list of nominees have you read? And are any at the top of your to be read pile?
I don’t know if it is happening throughout the discussion (I’m mostly listening), but I’m roughly 40 minutes in and Trevor’s monitor must be reflecting in his glasses… giving him blue eyes. 👀😃
Dune takes place 20,000yrs in the future. Races and religions have changed and merged. Yes there are lots of Arabic words in Dune but the Fremen are Zensunni, a combination of Zen Buddhism and Islam. Aside from their skin being darker, which could be from living on a desert planet, Herbert makes no reference to race. So is the lack of Middle Eastern actors a legitimate criticism? On the surface perhaps but if you delve into the book, it doesn't feel to me anyway that it's a major issue.
Fantastic discussion. Great to see a detailed, nuanced discussion which is academic but presented by fans of the genre and the books. Really compelling listen
I was so utterly disappointed that this movie took so long to tell so little of the story and told none of the backstory to make their changes matter...one...bit! If they were determined to make it into two movies they very much should have spent a good amount of time laying the groundwork for the greatest enjoyment of the two parts as a whole, instead of wasting two and a half hours on a great let down concerning the storytelling. I will give it full marks for the grandiose and epic widescreen shots that best set the scales, but I was barely placated at best.
It's funny because I actually thought there was a lot of set-up for the next movie(s). The four muad'dib shots, Alia / Jessica's pregnancy, some of the visions, a war in my name, the increased focus on Shani, the open-ended nature of Gurney and Thufir's stories. Even "who will our next oppressor be" cutting to Paul. It also sets up a couple of things like sietches, the larger politics, mentats, space travel, and the guild to explore in the second movie. It definitely laid a lot of groundwork imo.
@@TCO_404 you missed the key word...backstory. As in history of the Dune universe that explains why we are even in this mess to begin with. The visions are the story. So unless you have already read the Dune series you have no clue what's going on with anything. If you are new then 80 percent of what you are seeing has no context or base reality to compare to and you lose in the end so much of the relevance of what you are seeing.
@@adamslater1634 the book doesn't really give much the backstory either at this point in the story, unless you skip to the glossary, so personally that didn't really bother me. Spice being related to space travel is already more information than the books give at this point for example. The mystery of this world is half the fun, though I can see how people could feel differently about that. One thing I often see being brought up is why we didn't dive deeper into mentats, why computers are banned, how does space travel work, what is the guild etc to set up more of the world. Thing is, that's barely in this part of the book either, so I don't mind having to wait. I think the alternative was going back to either the horrible exposition of the Lynch movie or inventing new scenes that drag the pacing down. For me, it was a good balance, though I understand what you mean. :)
Winter Solstice reading in Middle English, please!
"Which means you're rich...and probably a bastard. " 🤣 you're all so wonderful! Thank you for sharing that talk!
I'd LOVE the Winter Solstice reading!
I'm very curious to hear other people's thoughts on this film, especially from people who *didn't* like it (as a panel, we all pretty much liked it although Kat had some reservations)!
I didn't like it the first three sittings; that's how long it took to drop my own baggage and watch it as its own piece. I owe a friend on that one who wouldn't let me off the hook until I either had a fair critique or acknowledged its strengths. In the end, as a unique work, it stands solid for me. I expect my view to mature over time; I can be slow to absorb. My biggest disappointment was that it seemed rather nihilist, almost pointless. Even with Gawain's final submission, it seemed little was achieved. The strengths for me were the refusal to explain and the demand that symbolism carry the weight- true to the original poetic format and richer for the interpretive liberty. Ah,well. I bought it outright, so I can dive in any time the mood strikes. Thanks again for all you do at SU. It's a rare treat to have a resource of that nature openly available.
I recommend the Merwin line by line translation.
I'd love to own a copy. I remember being super creeped out by the cover when I came across it during my master's!
I'm wondering how the Tolkien translation rates, I'm looking to get a copy.
@@DavidRoberts Me too. I haven't actually read any of his "real world" works. Negligence!
@@GabrielSchenk-Signum You can't beat the line by line. By the end of the poem, you can almost go without the translation. Great tool.
@@astrogypsy I've read his prose Beowulf (oh, for the poetic version!), but I've not much to compare it to, since I've not had a chance to read eg Heaney's translation. The style was very distinctive. Fall of Arthur is on my shelf, I need to have another crack at that. The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth Beorhthelm's Son is a great read, even if something like a Battle of Maldon fanfic
Yes! Links are in the description too 🙌🏻
Maggie mentioned a link to a short video A24 put together to give some background/history to the story. I think it might be this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q31lmpuLZq3fiaw.html
Thanks, that video was new to me... I think A24 did a really good job of respecting the text, especially by Hollywood standards!
Great film, brilliant chat.
Shouldn't this be Gallivanting 12?
43:30 THANK YOU for this, I’m so tired of people nay-saying Tolkien because they don’t understand eucatastrophe!
This is numbered correctly. The one posted as DD45 should be 47. See my comment there.
There is another Dunland Dealings 45, during which Gryfflet helped Wynmar with his love life. This is actually DD47, following the correctly labelled DD46.
it is no longer dunland - just call it great river meanderings lol
Trolls are like ents; Draught works on trees; Therefore draught works on trolls. Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle!
Adjectival form for Wormtongue - Wormlingual.
I think this should be numbered 35. :-)
Juli Thompson Yes indeed! Thank you
You met Amlan outside the rear entrance to The Prancing Pony.
Dyed cloth, hung out to dry. The product of a crafty person!
I own that same Death Star tea infuser! Cool stuff! Love your work, Cory!
I haven't watch one of these in a while.
It seems this is the only place on KZread that I can leave a comment. I wanted to say I enjoy your videos a lot when I have time to watch them. I run a pigeon sanctuary in London pretty much single handed so it is just impossible for me to come to all the discussions. Its a pity, because if I was able I would love to support your work. I think the sort of people that get into Tolkien at this level are the sort of people who also have other unusual things in their life, which is unfortunate because I think the reach and amount of support you get should be much greater. I hope this project continues and I look forward to the occasional times I can attend live. Thank you for your efforts.
Mordor is chicken-able. At least it was for me a couple of months ago. I managed a solo chicken run to Mount Doom shortly after it went live.
For those who just stumbled upon this video and are wondering what's going on: Professor Olsen didn't explicitly mention that Gryfflet is one of his characters in Lord of the Rings Online ("LOTRO"), which he uses as an aid for teaching the literature of J. R. R. Tolkien.