She was a witness to Kurt Cobain’s muhrder and now she’s a feminazi twitter warrior… neat. Why don’t you write the ultimate piece about what you know about Kurt Cobain? Men did the actually slaying, so you could twist it into your own sexist agenda. How bout it Jess?
@Jeremy-th5ptАй бұрын
"Lingua franca" Gosh, he was so smart! Lingua franca...give me a break! Lol
@HiFi-YeahАй бұрын
The problem with Albini’s “The Problem with Music” analysis is that the music industry did collapse. And we got to see what happened. Not in theory, but in reality. Before, when the music industry was thriving, there were endless classic records made, and now, with no industry, there are no classic records being made. So it’s all very much worse now, from the perspective of the recording arts.
@metaphoria3Ай бұрын
Who’s the first question guy? (Riparadise Steve)
@djefferson566926 күн бұрын
He looks like Isaac Brock from Modest Mouse doesn't he??
@dovic86Ай бұрын
I feel Albini was anchored to a web 1.0 idea of the internet and that's why all he saw was how it dismantled the gatekeeping of the old record companies (which is undoubtedly a positive thing). web 2.0 is a whole different horse, much more oligopolistic and centralized in nature, but I think the host failed to properly highlight the downsides of this system, both in matters of control and in the way music is consumed.
@PatrykZ-ft4hsАй бұрын
Was she actress in 90?
@DavidmhjrАй бұрын
I love his perspective -- especially when he describes his failures.
@TheSelloutCrowd2 ай бұрын
Farce...
@johnviera38843 ай бұрын
at 7:34 I disagree with him on this point. Because people do not know what they’re looking for. The music needs to be brought to them. Unless there is a way for this autonomous system to use artificial intelligence to create curated searches
@qbeart19615 ай бұрын
Genius, even better after second youth, like wine.
@thebruhnetwork6 ай бұрын
She’s GUILTY AF
@nowthisisfuuun6 ай бұрын
Damn she's not in prison yet?
@massapower Жыл бұрын
All fine & dandy free music, but 1 thing the Paesano is forgetting is how the HELL is da Artist supposed to make a living if music is being offered FREE later on as he so says . Playing LIVE is 1 thing, but if streaming becomes free and no membership fee, he's living in the dark 😏
@drainel9707 Жыл бұрын
Same way most musicians have always done it. Rich kids
@louderthangod11 ай бұрын
Well he’s a big physical media guy (track tape, release to vinyl etc) but I think the answer is that they don’t just like they don’t today. Anyone making living wage on streaming today is probably making far more from merch and touring etc. The problem with the streaming services is how they distribute their revenue and how many have colluded with labels to give them big cuts while leaving musicians out. I make weirdo music but at best I make $50-100 a year from streaming and that doesn’t cover my strings for the year. Thankfully things like Bandcamp are better but still mostly obscure bands but at least they have far more control to set the prices or even none at all.
@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec28 күн бұрын
@@drainel9707most successful musicians were poor kids. If our world only allowed rich kids to make music, we would lose most of our great music.
@drainel970728 күн бұрын
@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec lol wut
@superdeluxesmell Жыл бұрын
His cd supplanting cassettes for convenience narrative doesn’t add up.
@louderthangod11 ай бұрын
Sure it does for mp3 cd’s but also tapes wore out from even proper use but cd’s lasted forever unless they were damaged.
@DrillForAbsentee Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure that the streaming services are going to go belly up anytime soon. Honestly, I think they are as close to what Steve is talking about here as possible. For a very nominal monthly fee, I have access to virtually every album I could ever imagine. KZread music is especially good because it will also search out videos, so that you get albums that may not be in their music distribution, but were posted on KZread by a user. Artists have had to adjust, but now the model seems to be that your streaming music is largely promotional, you sell physical media to your core loyalists, and you make money live going out on tour. This seems more reasonable and sustainable than what we had in the 90s.
@fuckcensorship69 Жыл бұрын
a year later, this "man" would be wearing a mask while alone in his own studio
@suspiciouswatermelon763929 күн бұрын
Now he's wearing a mask in the center of the earth.
@jolyonholloway483 Жыл бұрын
That was truly lovely!When you strip away all the twiddly bits and fast runs up and down the scale,Rick really knows how to compose a beautiful melody.
@AnonymousAccount514 Жыл бұрын
Wow….that description of Don Caballero is perfect
@BoringOats Жыл бұрын
I met Steve Albini at the MOCA in 2003, i asked him what it was like to work with Kurt Cabin in the studio and he kicked my shins repeatedly, grabbed my shoulders, held me still, and kicked my shins. Had to get a stitch.
@topofthemornintoyaАй бұрын
Deserved.
@Sam-zo2ho Жыл бұрын
The dude in the labels section was so annoying get to the point man so much unnecessary commentary. We are here to hear Steve not your bullshit on how much debt you have
@TheMentalblockrock Жыл бұрын
The interviewer just said Trump and Boris Johnson is fascism, WHAT????, what a wanker, what a clueless drone, please do some research!. Boris is a socialist through and through....musicians usually FAIL when they talk politics (except Ted Nugent, the imaginary child molester, according to Courtney Love....lol).
@TheMentalblockrock Жыл бұрын
Steve Albini practically commits slander here kzread.info/dash/bejne/e42KyrpsaM24Zbw.html, very bad of you Steve, Ted Nugent has never been convicted, let alone arrested for child rape. Very slanderous of you Steve, and the only real accuser seems to be Courtney Love, hardly a reliable witness.....(hint hint, Kurdt did not Jeffrey Epstein himself and write his"""suicide note""" in two completely different handwritings).I think politics has a part here.
@TheMentalblockrock Жыл бұрын
"D D Ramone sucking D!CK for drug money" just made me feel more than a little nauseous and put me off listening to anymore of the Ramones than I already know. Disgusting, pervy and junkie! not good at all...........
@TheMentalblockrock Жыл бұрын
I don't remember the Who or Alice Cooper singing about things like that......
@turboplopp Жыл бұрын
Always inspiring to listen to Steve! I have to disagree on one statement: There is a virtuous drummachine artist. And while I'm not particularly fond of his music, what Jeff Mills can do to an audience just playing the TR909 qualifies as genuine artistic, at least in my book.
@mikewilder67282 жыл бұрын
Oh! It's Joe (Cancel Culture) Steinhardt. What a buffoon!
@Newstetter2 жыл бұрын
Love you Patrick!
@tobyflenderson6972 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark
@TheTeekayes2 жыл бұрын
I love how this generations version of "asking a question" is a to make a highly grandiose personal value identification statement disguised as a question and intended to lead the speaker into making a statement that reinforces the idea the "questioner" already believes and simply wants to exhibit to the other members of the audience. 😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️ Cringe.
@piggsquigg9832 жыл бұрын
ok
@superdeluxesmell Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I also appreciate how most “questions” are prefaced by a huge chunk of autobiographical information.
@louderthangod11 ай бұрын
@@superdeluxesmellWhat’s wrong asking a question based off your own experience? That’s all it seems to me.
@louderthangod11 ай бұрын
So basically like your comment minus the question about how anyone or Steve Albini thinks about the assertion? The only difference I see is that you didn’t ask but are getting responses based on your opinion.
@TheTeekayes11 ай бұрын
@@louderthangod 😂😂 you reached all the way to the top shelf for that.
@NerdsOuttaControl2 жыл бұрын
The reason why the result of a lot of people voicing their opinions on the internet is fascism is that the mediums they voiced their opinions on support that way of thinking. None of the website we're all on are neutral, they are all for ideologies that will keep them in power. Steinhardt's comment was quite short-sighted, it's sad and a little dangerous.
@stevenhenry5267 Жыл бұрын
No. Incredible fear mongering actually.
@mattcook78812 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, Steve's point is, make peace with the fact that you're a weirdo, and make the most of the fact that you can find the other weirdos in a way never before possible. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift don't exist because big media forced them on us, they exist because most people are fine with that. Maybe you can siphon off a few of their fans, but don't stress. Be happy the other weirdos found you and concoct a life where those precious few support you enough that you get to keep doing it.
@kodrinsky Жыл бұрын
It's a good point. Although, lately, it came across my mind another point: the digital world and globalization, maybe, adds a ton of noise, hence is more difficult that gathering. In the 80s, if you liked "weird" music you used a catalog and a post office to get it. The one it worked here, and I'm talking of a small town in southern Spain, highlighted Big Black's records. I'm pretty sure here all music weirdos had their copy of Atomizer and Sons about fucking.
@mattcook78812 жыл бұрын
Unless you experienced pre-interwebs music seeking, i think it's very difficult for people to understand what Steve's getting at. The gatekeepers were awesome in their power. While it's problematic that we've lost them in the world of facts, it's only a good thing that we've beaten them in the world of music.
@fuckcensorship69 Жыл бұрын
problematic that we've lost them in the world of "facts"? What makes you think big media corps and govs would ever tell you the truth? So many examples of blatant lies.
@mattcook78812 жыл бұрын
The disagreement around the hour mark. As i understand it, Steve's point is the interwebs provide the naturally inquisitive seeker-oddball with an opportunity never before available. My 80s gen x experience confirms this utterly, and I've had many discussions with my gen z daughter about the difference in finding cool music when i was young. Interview dude's worry is the big guys (apple, Spotify etc) are sucking up the audience with their convenience and ease. Well, those consumers were gonna do that anyway, so Steve's right, at least now the weirdos can sidestep the gatekeepers. And even the gatekeepers can't actually stop anyone. How many <1,000 monthly listeners bands do you pull up on Spotify. Quite a few, i suspect...
@nessy9022 Жыл бұрын
Strongly agree about weirdos being able to side step the gatekeepers. I was in an unsigned band in the mid 90s, we recorded an album and then broke up with the intent of still releasing the album, however getting together money for mastering and CD production meant it wasn't listener ready or promotable (eg on a format we could get radio played) until 6 years later. An unimaginable delay in this day and age.
@NecropsY12 жыл бұрын
thats very true for me - i make music for myself - i only share it with people as an afterthought its never the primary goal
@aedelus2 жыл бұрын
Hard to find a better brain to pick.
@SharpEdgeStandardOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve Albeanie 😂
@everydaysounds30153 жыл бұрын
yep. blockchain
@mysteriousmansion18413 жыл бұрын
Steve literally described The Pirate Bay in an out of touch way.
@duncanthehut2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. What he described was something more akin to the music bots Discord has.
@BOUZOUKI_PETE2 жыл бұрын
nah sounds like he described peer to peer shit we had 10 years ago, bearshare, kazaa, limewire, except they didn’t stream, they downloaded….
@Startrekker773 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!!
@europa3 жыл бұрын
GHOST
@simccaffrey3 жыл бұрын
@56:38 spot on joe...i love albini; but i feel he missed your point re big data/tech/analytics...an easy example is Revolut, "free banking", but, "..."
@rdubb773 жыл бұрын
The first questions premise was flawed as Albini points out. Like any great creative he had no master plan, and he’s humble to boot. People need to stop trying to emulate what great practioners do and find their own way and joy
@justinwilliam46442 жыл бұрын
👍
@Nick-eo2ol3 жыл бұрын
"Yes, my capitalist company is anticapitalist." k lol
@nessy9022 Жыл бұрын
Steve has answered this in another interview by pointing out that a "capitalist's" primary objective is to generate capital in the form of profits for stakeholders whereas EA redirects revenue into acquiring more gear in order to maintain EA's working model, and their love of the craft. So sure they exist in a capitalist system, but any argument that generating capital was the primary objective of EA or Albini can be debunked on the basis of him not taking producer points, as well as the studio maintaining affordable rates for indie acts.
@Gretsch09973 жыл бұрын
He was born in 1962???? He looks great
@suspiciouswatermelon763929 күн бұрын
He's on fire now! Lol.
@trentreed69283 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. Thanks so much for posting it.
@jtrjammer4 жыл бұрын
CBGB
@hughjass51564 жыл бұрын
I like that this interview is conducted assuming prior audience knowledge of Albini, his projects, and his ethos. Allows us to dig into the sausage making a little bit.
@ariesskylar4893 жыл бұрын
a tip : watch series on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@carsonmax97033 жыл бұрын
@Aries Skylar definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D
@ToneSherpa4 жыл бұрын
oh no. this idiot thinks Boris Johnson (and Trump for that matter) is a fascist. that's... the most idiotic think I have ever heard
@kondrashovoleg4 жыл бұрын
Steve is such a character. One minute he is doing a panel being the sweetest man there is, next minute he is such a ruthless troll on any music/poker forum he answers on. I love him both ways. Guy just slams it.
@emeraldcelestial10583 жыл бұрын
A true legend.
@massapower Жыл бұрын
Bc he's ITALIANO and us Italians are hot blooded !😁✌
Пікірлер
we'll miss you steve.
She was a witness to Kurt Cobain’s muhrder and now she’s a feminazi twitter warrior… neat. Why don’t you write the ultimate piece about what you know about Kurt Cobain? Men did the actually slaying, so you could twist it into your own sexist agenda. How bout it Jess?
"Lingua franca" Gosh, he was so smart! Lingua franca...give me a break! Lol
The problem with Albini’s “The Problem with Music” analysis is that the music industry did collapse. And we got to see what happened. Not in theory, but in reality. Before, when the music industry was thriving, there were endless classic records made, and now, with no industry, there are no classic records being made. So it’s all very much worse now, from the perspective of the recording arts.
Who’s the first question guy? (Riparadise Steve)
He looks like Isaac Brock from Modest Mouse doesn't he??
I feel Albini was anchored to a web 1.0 idea of the internet and that's why all he saw was how it dismantled the gatekeeping of the old record companies (which is undoubtedly a positive thing). web 2.0 is a whole different horse, much more oligopolistic and centralized in nature, but I think the host failed to properly highlight the downsides of this system, both in matters of control and in the way music is consumed.
Was she actress in 90?
I love his perspective -- especially when he describes his failures.
Farce...
at 7:34 I disagree with him on this point. Because people do not know what they’re looking for. The music needs to be brought to them. Unless there is a way for this autonomous system to use artificial intelligence to create curated searches
Genius, even better after second youth, like wine.
She’s GUILTY AF
Damn she's not in prison yet?
All fine & dandy free music, but 1 thing the Paesano is forgetting is how the HELL is da Artist supposed to make a living if music is being offered FREE later on as he so says . Playing LIVE is 1 thing, but if streaming becomes free and no membership fee, he's living in the dark 😏
Same way most musicians have always done it. Rich kids
Well he’s a big physical media guy (track tape, release to vinyl etc) but I think the answer is that they don’t just like they don’t today. Anyone making living wage on streaming today is probably making far more from merch and touring etc. The problem with the streaming services is how they distribute their revenue and how many have colluded with labels to give them big cuts while leaving musicians out. I make weirdo music but at best I make $50-100 a year from streaming and that doesn’t cover my strings for the year. Thankfully things like Bandcamp are better but still mostly obscure bands but at least they have far more control to set the prices or even none at all.
@@drainel9707most successful musicians were poor kids. If our world only allowed rich kids to make music, we would lose most of our great music.
@@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec lol wut
His cd supplanting cassettes for convenience narrative doesn’t add up.
Sure it does for mp3 cd’s but also tapes wore out from even proper use but cd’s lasted forever unless they were damaged.
I’m not sure that the streaming services are going to go belly up anytime soon. Honestly, I think they are as close to what Steve is talking about here as possible. For a very nominal monthly fee, I have access to virtually every album I could ever imagine. KZread music is especially good because it will also search out videos, so that you get albums that may not be in their music distribution, but were posted on KZread by a user. Artists have had to adjust, but now the model seems to be that your streaming music is largely promotional, you sell physical media to your core loyalists, and you make money live going out on tour. This seems more reasonable and sustainable than what we had in the 90s.
a year later, this "man" would be wearing a mask while alone in his own studio
Now he's wearing a mask in the center of the earth.
That was truly lovely!When you strip away all the twiddly bits and fast runs up and down the scale,Rick really knows how to compose a beautiful melody.
Wow….that description of Don Caballero is perfect
I met Steve Albini at the MOCA in 2003, i asked him what it was like to work with Kurt Cabin in the studio and he kicked my shins repeatedly, grabbed my shoulders, held me still, and kicked my shins. Had to get a stitch.
Deserved.
The dude in the labels section was so annoying get to the point man so much unnecessary commentary. We are here to hear Steve not your bullshit on how much debt you have
The interviewer just said Trump and Boris Johnson is fascism, WHAT????, what a wanker, what a clueless drone, please do some research!. Boris is a socialist through and through....musicians usually FAIL when they talk politics (except Ted Nugent, the imaginary child molester, according to Courtney Love....lol).
Steve Albini practically commits slander here kzread.info/dash/bejne/e42KyrpsaM24Zbw.html, very bad of you Steve, Ted Nugent has never been convicted, let alone arrested for child rape. Very slanderous of you Steve, and the only real accuser seems to be Courtney Love, hardly a reliable witness.....(hint hint, Kurdt did not Jeffrey Epstein himself and write his"""suicide note""" in two completely different handwritings).I think politics has a part here.
"D D Ramone sucking D!CK for drug money" just made me feel more than a little nauseous and put me off listening to anymore of the Ramones than I already know. Disgusting, pervy and junkie! not good at all...........
I don't remember the Who or Alice Cooper singing about things like that......
Always inspiring to listen to Steve! I have to disagree on one statement: There is a virtuous drummachine artist. And while I'm not particularly fond of his music, what Jeff Mills can do to an audience just playing the TR909 qualifies as genuine artistic, at least in my book.
Oh! It's Joe (Cancel Culture) Steinhardt. What a buffoon!
Love you Patrick!
Hi Mark
I love how this generations version of "asking a question" is a to make a highly grandiose personal value identification statement disguised as a question and intended to lead the speaker into making a statement that reinforces the idea the "questioner" already believes and simply wants to exhibit to the other members of the audience. 😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️ Cringe.
ok
Indeed. I also appreciate how most “questions” are prefaced by a huge chunk of autobiographical information.
@@superdeluxesmellWhat’s wrong asking a question based off your own experience? That’s all it seems to me.
So basically like your comment minus the question about how anyone or Steve Albini thinks about the assertion? The only difference I see is that you didn’t ask but are getting responses based on your opinion.
@@louderthangod 😂😂 you reached all the way to the top shelf for that.
The reason why the result of a lot of people voicing their opinions on the internet is fascism is that the mediums they voiced their opinions on support that way of thinking. None of the website we're all on are neutral, they are all for ideologies that will keep them in power. Steinhardt's comment was quite short-sighted, it's sad and a little dangerous.
No. Incredible fear mongering actually.
Ultimately, Steve's point is, make peace with the fact that you're a weirdo, and make the most of the fact that you can find the other weirdos in a way never before possible. Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift don't exist because big media forced them on us, they exist because most people are fine with that. Maybe you can siphon off a few of their fans, but don't stress. Be happy the other weirdos found you and concoct a life where those precious few support you enough that you get to keep doing it.
It's a good point. Although, lately, it came across my mind another point: the digital world and globalization, maybe, adds a ton of noise, hence is more difficult that gathering. In the 80s, if you liked "weird" music you used a catalog and a post office to get it. The one it worked here, and I'm talking of a small town in southern Spain, highlighted Big Black's records. I'm pretty sure here all music weirdos had their copy of Atomizer and Sons about fucking.
Unless you experienced pre-interwebs music seeking, i think it's very difficult for people to understand what Steve's getting at. The gatekeepers were awesome in their power. While it's problematic that we've lost them in the world of facts, it's only a good thing that we've beaten them in the world of music.
problematic that we've lost them in the world of "facts"? What makes you think big media corps and govs would ever tell you the truth? So many examples of blatant lies.
The disagreement around the hour mark. As i understand it, Steve's point is the interwebs provide the naturally inquisitive seeker-oddball with an opportunity never before available. My 80s gen x experience confirms this utterly, and I've had many discussions with my gen z daughter about the difference in finding cool music when i was young. Interview dude's worry is the big guys (apple, Spotify etc) are sucking up the audience with their convenience and ease. Well, those consumers were gonna do that anyway, so Steve's right, at least now the weirdos can sidestep the gatekeepers. And even the gatekeepers can't actually stop anyone. How many <1,000 monthly listeners bands do you pull up on Spotify. Quite a few, i suspect...
Strongly agree about weirdos being able to side step the gatekeepers. I was in an unsigned band in the mid 90s, we recorded an album and then broke up with the intent of still releasing the album, however getting together money for mastering and CD production meant it wasn't listener ready or promotable (eg on a format we could get radio played) until 6 years later. An unimaginable delay in this day and age.
thats very true for me - i make music for myself - i only share it with people as an afterthought its never the primary goal
Hard to find a better brain to pick.
Hey Steve Albeanie 😂
yep. blockchain
Steve literally described The Pirate Bay in an out of touch way.
I disagree. What he described was something more akin to the music bots Discord has.
nah sounds like he described peer to peer shit we had 10 years ago, bearshare, kazaa, limewire, except they didn’t stream, they downloaded….
Amazing!!!!
GHOST
@56:38 spot on joe...i love albini; but i feel he missed your point re big data/tech/analytics...an easy example is Revolut, "free banking", but, "..."
The first questions premise was flawed as Albini points out. Like any great creative he had no master plan, and he’s humble to boot. People need to stop trying to emulate what great practioners do and find their own way and joy
👍
"Yes, my capitalist company is anticapitalist." k lol
Steve has answered this in another interview by pointing out that a "capitalist's" primary objective is to generate capital in the form of profits for stakeholders whereas EA redirects revenue into acquiring more gear in order to maintain EA's working model, and their love of the craft. So sure they exist in a capitalist system, but any argument that generating capital was the primary objective of EA or Albini can be debunked on the basis of him not taking producer points, as well as the studio maintaining affordable rates for indie acts.
He was born in 1962???? He looks great
He's on fire now! Lol.
This was fantastic. Thanks so much for posting it.
CBGB
I like that this interview is conducted assuming prior audience knowledge of Albini, his projects, and his ethos. Allows us to dig into the sausage making a little bit.
a tip : watch series on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Aries Skylar definitely, I have been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D
oh no. this idiot thinks Boris Johnson (and Trump for that matter) is a fascist. that's... the most idiotic think I have ever heard
Steve is such a character. One minute he is doing a panel being the sweetest man there is, next minute he is such a ruthless troll on any music/poker forum he answers on. I love him both ways. Guy just slams it.
A true legend.
Bc he's ITALIANO and us Italians are hot blooded !😁✌
"manic nerd in a record store"