Boss super consistent? Wow. I have had ones that flip always and ones that are like bricks. Some are domy, some are flat. One had insane glide, therefore it overshot the basket by 30m and went into pond - on the first shot.
@stefandomagalski37222 ай бұрын
The Jay is a great midrange! Also the IT.
@JamesRyanButlerDiscGPRO7 ай бұрын
Most of this is reverse of my personal preferences , I’ve thrown most of the haven’t even thrown , so overall I’d change it up a bit
if more than Half of the innova discs end up in "haven't thrown" maybe don’t make a tier list. just food for thought wraith being mandatory because "it’s a destroyer for slower arm speed" is hypocritical for not putting the destroyer in mando by the way. destroyer, shryke, and tern not in mando is just silly. I understand you can have your own opinion, but your opinion is wrong :)
@michaelfaber69049 ай бұрын
Not sure how the Leo and Leo3 aren't mandatory.
@benjaminhoff500411 ай бұрын
Not a fan of the Leopard since 6 speeds are an inbetween class of discs. The Hawkeye which is a 7 to 8 speed I prefer, still need to throw the IT which I've heard is very understable.
@hothanddiceking11 ай бұрын
bro you cant have that many not thrown
@adam672711 ай бұрын
This guy is not qualified to make a tier list for Innova AT ALL. He hasn’t thrown half of them lol
@sunesnigel Жыл бұрын
I would highly recommend it in K3. It holds an anny very well and just "floats" and pans. I carry a K3 and a K1 soft as K1 soft can handle my very poor forehand form but still just goes straight.
@InbredJed82060 Жыл бұрын
The berg is the only disc if i somehow forget at home, im turning around. Wouldnt play a serious round without it. Completely hate your take on it. Really weird you act like its for unskilled players when its the most popular disc in open bags in every single division.
@flipflat4814 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the XD and Classic Roc are the best Innova molds, wish they were still in regular production 😔🤷. Thank God I have a fresh pile of both molds but over the last 28 years it's getting pretty low and the used piles are steadily getting bigger 😂🤷.
@flipflat4814 Жыл бұрын
No such thing as a bad disc🤷.
@danvinogradov138 Жыл бұрын
The video title should be, I've thrown 5 of these and the rest you should watch a different video:) lmao
@robedyourbanana Жыл бұрын
The cheetah is criminally underated or never thrown. It's such a solid disk for all kinds of shots.
@newbeginnings646 Жыл бұрын
I love the cheetah.
@flipflat4814 Жыл бұрын
Pin this comment to the top👍.
@Veggamattic Жыл бұрын
The Dragon is so much worse than any other disc I have ever thrown it deserves it's own category.
@Veggamattic Жыл бұрын
I have to give more love to the Wolf. Even though it's DX, it still has stayed consistent for a long time for me. I even putt putt with it sometimes. I have hit so many 100 footish shots with it that my buddy keeps saying..."Oh was that that Wolf again". The most versatile disc I have even thrown by a good margin.
@House13XIII Жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Very few discs in my bag are as forgiving for me. I can't really overpower it, and the confidence it gives me to really attack the basket on my approach shots has cut a stroke or two off my average rounds.
@BedfastHealer78 Жыл бұрын
Hearing people describe the rat, and watching a cardmate ace with it in the last tourney I played it, makes me want to try the rat... Thunderbird & Firebird are probably mandos for me, and maybe the teebird. Atlas is always my underrated straight flying mid, as it's really the only mid from Innova I like to bag. The mirage is sickkkk. Probably always going to have one in the bag. It's basically a baby uplink
@keyelectric91 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered a f5 in 400 plastic also I'm a lefty too but I'm right handed lol
@discbee9107 Жыл бұрын
It took me half the video to realize the discs are in alphabetical order 🫤
@uniteentierly2773 Жыл бұрын
Nice editing. Do X 3/4 and HX 3/4 comparison. ❤️💛💚
@GGoodroad Жыл бұрын
I can't believe the roc isn't in the Mando.. it's notorious for being the midrange that started it all. It's such a great shot shape disc. It's a wooded players must have.
@alesmasarik4578 Жыл бұрын
I agree with all, but Kastaplast should be above Average, if not Gold Standard. I absolutely love Berg, Reko, Grym X and Falk, and in K1 they are all extreamly resistant. So remove Kastaplast to 1. or 2. category and my list would be exactly the same. 95% of my discs are from Lat64 or Kastaplast, my 2 most favourite manufactures. Best Lat64 discs are Pure, Compass and Explorer. There is only 1 disc what isnt from these 2 and i absolutely love it - Zone.
@joem8496 Жыл бұрын
hey man keep at it and turn the audio up too
@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER Жыл бұрын
As a newer player can you explain the reasoning of having 6 wraiths in the bag to me?
@brianenns84623 ай бұрын
They are all slightly more beat in or different molds or plastic which affects how overstable or understable they are
@andrewdoster3785 Жыл бұрын
10/10 spot on review! I prefer k1 soft but I do 95% backhands with it and I prefer it for the reason u said, it settles on the ground better.
@dustinheese Жыл бұрын
Just got a K1 soft. My experience is like yours, dead straight forehand. Tossed one in from under a tree at 94' today.
@mcbriggs23 Жыл бұрын
Dude hasn't even thrown more than half of Innova's molds
@kiwidiscgolf1241 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone, really? I made the template so anyone else could do the same list if they wanted to - I just as easily could have ranked only molds I'd thrown
@Mr.SpocksBrain Жыл бұрын
Well done! So, what has changed over the time?
@teacherof5th Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t do this when you haven’t thrown even the eagle
@kiwidiscgolf1241 Жыл бұрын
It was over a year ago, I was bored, oh well. I don't see much need to gatekeep having opinions lol.
@andrewwray92152 жыл бұрын
The destroyer should be in mandatory, its the best distance driver of all time. Although there are many distance drivers that are the exact same or very similar its the OG, its the distance driver that all manufacturing companies try to replicate.
@johnt38442 жыл бұрын
Love this disc-got a 200 foot birdie yesterday throwing hard and straight.
@Absinthe24012 жыл бұрын
Good video, but I would have liked to know which ones are made in China, like Prodigy. Will never buy discs made there.
@kiwidiscgolf12412 жыл бұрын
At the time of recording, main-line (not Ace-line) Prodigy discs were exclusively made in America. I'm considering making a video about what plastics are worth trying and manufacturing location is definitely a factor of that for me.
@Absinthe24012 жыл бұрын
@@kiwidiscgolf1241 I asked them by email last week, and they said their discs are made in China.
@aaronbolli63452 жыл бұрын
Man, get a halo savant ASAP. Mandatory. It's what a thunderbird should be. Super similar to straighter runs of the thunderbird.
@morticianjohn2 жыл бұрын
Mandatory innova molds for me are destroyer, and leopard.
@hyperbomb022 жыл бұрын
I prefer mostly Prodigy discs, but a Destroyer, Wraith, and Roc3 will always be in my bag. Although the Destroyer and Wraith I could throw F2s or Fx4 instead, the Roc3 is completely unreplacable to me.
@colinmcmasters58192 жыл бұрын
This is missing like half their molds
@Allanfan202 жыл бұрын
I HATE the Mako3….but it’s been so ridiculously crucial for me getting better that it is mandatory for me to have. It feels like crap. I have a hard time getting it to go straight at all. When I do, it has some distance though and perfecting that continues to help me throw other discs better. The leopard I love and consider that to be mandatory as well.
@77zarick2 жыл бұрын
I have a katana 151gm gstar it rips flat and far for me so it depends on the person
@nv59852 жыл бұрын
Great review! Berg wasn't my thing, it's unnecessarily short and glideless to be useful for me. I bag the Rhyno for that slot, it's more in the range I have trouble with distance control, and I prefer the feel.
@kiwidiscgolf12412 жыл бұрын
I've gone back and forth between the Rhyno and a Judge for my approach putter, currently bagging the Judge. Worse in the wind, but has far more versatility overall, imo
@nv59852 жыл бұрын
@@kiwidiscgolf1241 - Yeah I own both, and many other putters, I prefer the Rhynos for upshots, I like the cosmic neutron Pilot for drives.
@tillman402 жыл бұрын
The zone?
@kiwidiscgolf12412 жыл бұрын
The two are nothing alike - I often see people bag both with little overlap.
@titledisc6486 Жыл бұрын
I bag both add my putting putter for touch anny shots and the 3 discs are my bread and butter inside 200'. Berg is just as described, throw it directly at the basket and it is very forgiving in regards to disc angles and such. It does not "parachute" well compared to a typical putter so I just like it for low and straight, Nothing can compete with it for that throw.
@eristicfreethinker20982 жыл бұрын
Well done review. It would be easier to see and follow your disc flight if you were in the frame when throwing. It allows the viewer to watch and pick up the disc from your hand and also allows the viewer to see the exact release angle. Thanks.
@sebastiannachilly5002 жыл бұрын
Also my valk came in super overstable somehow. Like a 161 Champ Valk was more overstable than my 172 teebird.
@johnanderson70767 ай бұрын
Mine did too. My G-Star Valk flies and glides just like a brick and goes about as far. Would like to try another one sometime but as is, not for me. I can't believe a T-Bird is not mandatory.
@sebastiannachilly5002 жыл бұрын
Nova felt like auto griplock for me. To the point where my bad habit has no swayed to early release.
@johnbarth69132 жыл бұрын
Can't throw a destroyer so he likes the boss...
@christopherdexter29052 жыл бұрын
if you like thunderbirds and firebirds... you'll appreciate an FL. Right in the slot distance wise and easy to control. So many extinct molds worth mentioning too.
@raidonbay2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 snowflake Entropies and 2 snowflake Stabelizer. Not sure what happened to your Entropy, but they are a slower Zone and more os in neutron plastic.
@frizz221002 жыл бұрын
How can you say the Croc is the best and yet you have not thrown a Gator?
@AustereCommander2 жыл бұрын
I realize that tier lists are entirely opinion, and I'm not saying that you're necessarily wrong for having the opinions that you have, and I also understand that this video is almost a year old at this point. However, one critique that I will offer is: if you're doing a tier list of one manufacturer, you can't really compare discs to another manufacturer. A tier list of one would be for building a bag of that particular manufacturer. You put the firebird as mandatory because "there's no other disc from any manufacturer that does what it does." Being a primarily Innova thrower, I know that a DD Felon is (number-wise) basically the exact same disc, and a Discraft Raptor is only slightly different (slightly more glide & marginally less fade). Plenty of discs can fill the slot of a Firebird.
@gannonolson62942 жыл бұрын
Every manufacturer has their firebird clone, so yes. I think it's silly to say the most popular overstable fairway that's copied time and time again is the only one of it's kind. Quite ignorant actually. I personally like the feel of a Fireball better. And even the name is a ripoff of a firebird 😅
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Boss super consistent? Wow. I have had ones that flip always and ones that are like bricks. Some are domy, some are flat. One had insane glide, therefore it overshot the basket by 30m and went into pond - on the first shot.
The Jay is a great midrange! Also the IT.
Most of this is reverse of my personal preferences , I’ve thrown most of the haven’t even thrown , so overall I’d change it up a bit
colossus wraith banshee leopard panther shark dart aviar
if more than Half of the innova discs end up in "haven't thrown" maybe don’t make a tier list. just food for thought wraith being mandatory because "it’s a destroyer for slower arm speed" is hypocritical for not putting the destroyer in mando by the way. destroyer, shryke, and tern not in mando is just silly. I understand you can have your own opinion, but your opinion is wrong :)
Not sure how the Leo and Leo3 aren't mandatory.
Not a fan of the Leopard since 6 speeds are an inbetween class of discs. The Hawkeye which is a 7 to 8 speed I prefer, still need to throw the IT which I've heard is very understable.
bro you cant have that many not thrown
This guy is not qualified to make a tier list for Innova AT ALL. He hasn’t thrown half of them lol
I would highly recommend it in K3. It holds an anny very well and just "floats" and pans. I carry a K3 and a K1 soft as K1 soft can handle my very poor forehand form but still just goes straight.
The berg is the only disc if i somehow forget at home, im turning around. Wouldnt play a serious round without it. Completely hate your take on it. Really weird you act like its for unskilled players when its the most popular disc in open bags in every single division.
In my opinion the XD and Classic Roc are the best Innova molds, wish they were still in regular production 😔🤷. Thank God I have a fresh pile of both molds but over the last 28 years it's getting pretty low and the used piles are steadily getting bigger 😂🤷.
No such thing as a bad disc🤷.
The video title should be, I've thrown 5 of these and the rest you should watch a different video:) lmao
The cheetah is criminally underated or never thrown. It's such a solid disk for all kinds of shots.
I love the cheetah.
Pin this comment to the top👍.
The Dragon is so much worse than any other disc I have ever thrown it deserves it's own category.
I have to give more love to the Wolf. Even though it's DX, it still has stayed consistent for a long time for me. I even putt putt with it sometimes. I have hit so many 100 footish shots with it that my buddy keeps saying..."Oh was that that Wolf again". The most versatile disc I have even thrown by a good margin.
Outstanding. Very few discs in my bag are as forgiving for me. I can't really overpower it, and the confidence it gives me to really attack the basket on my approach shots has cut a stroke or two off my average rounds.
Hearing people describe the rat, and watching a cardmate ace with it in the last tourney I played it, makes me want to try the rat... Thunderbird & Firebird are probably mandos for me, and maybe the teebird. Atlas is always my underrated straight flying mid, as it's really the only mid from Innova I like to bag. The mirage is sickkkk. Probably always going to have one in the bag. It's basically a baby uplink
I just ordered a f5 in 400 plastic also I'm a lefty too but I'm right handed lol
It took me half the video to realize the discs are in alphabetical order 🫤
Nice editing. Do X 3/4 and HX 3/4 comparison. ❤️💛💚
I can't believe the roc isn't in the Mando.. it's notorious for being the midrange that started it all. It's such a great shot shape disc. It's a wooded players must have.
I agree with all, but Kastaplast should be above Average, if not Gold Standard. I absolutely love Berg, Reko, Grym X and Falk, and in K1 they are all extreamly resistant. So remove Kastaplast to 1. or 2. category and my list would be exactly the same. 95% of my discs are from Lat64 or Kastaplast, my 2 most favourite manufactures. Best Lat64 discs are Pure, Compass and Explorer. There is only 1 disc what isnt from these 2 and i absolutely love it - Zone.
hey man keep at it and turn the audio up too
As a newer player can you explain the reasoning of having 6 wraiths in the bag to me?
They are all slightly more beat in or different molds or plastic which affects how overstable or understable they are
10/10 spot on review! I prefer k1 soft but I do 95% backhands with it and I prefer it for the reason u said, it settles on the ground better.
Just got a K1 soft. My experience is like yours, dead straight forehand. Tossed one in from under a tree at 94' today.
Dude hasn't even thrown more than half of Innova's molds
Has anyone, really? I made the template so anyone else could do the same list if they wanted to - I just as easily could have ranked only molds I'd thrown
Well done! So, what has changed over the time?
Shouldn’t do this when you haven’t thrown even the eagle
It was over a year ago, I was bored, oh well. I don't see much need to gatekeep having opinions lol.
The destroyer should be in mandatory, its the best distance driver of all time. Although there are many distance drivers that are the exact same or very similar its the OG, its the distance driver that all manufacturing companies try to replicate.
Love this disc-got a 200 foot birdie yesterday throwing hard and straight.
Good video, but I would have liked to know which ones are made in China, like Prodigy. Will never buy discs made there.
At the time of recording, main-line (not Ace-line) Prodigy discs were exclusively made in America. I'm considering making a video about what plastics are worth trying and manufacturing location is definitely a factor of that for me.
@@kiwidiscgolf1241 I asked them by email last week, and they said their discs are made in China.
Man, get a halo savant ASAP. Mandatory. It's what a thunderbird should be. Super similar to straighter runs of the thunderbird.
Mandatory innova molds for me are destroyer, and leopard.
I prefer mostly Prodigy discs, but a Destroyer, Wraith, and Roc3 will always be in my bag. Although the Destroyer and Wraith I could throw F2s or Fx4 instead, the Roc3 is completely unreplacable to me.
This is missing like half their molds
I HATE the Mako3….but it’s been so ridiculously crucial for me getting better that it is mandatory for me to have. It feels like crap. I have a hard time getting it to go straight at all. When I do, it has some distance though and perfecting that continues to help me throw other discs better. The leopard I love and consider that to be mandatory as well.
I have a katana 151gm gstar it rips flat and far for me so it depends on the person
Great review! Berg wasn't my thing, it's unnecessarily short and glideless to be useful for me. I bag the Rhyno for that slot, it's more in the range I have trouble with distance control, and I prefer the feel.
I've gone back and forth between the Rhyno and a Judge for my approach putter, currently bagging the Judge. Worse in the wind, but has far more versatility overall, imo
@@kiwidiscgolf1241 - Yeah I own both, and many other putters, I prefer the Rhynos for upshots, I like the cosmic neutron Pilot for drives.
The zone?
The two are nothing alike - I often see people bag both with little overlap.
I bag both add my putting putter for touch anny shots and the 3 discs are my bread and butter inside 200'. Berg is just as described, throw it directly at the basket and it is very forgiving in regards to disc angles and such. It does not "parachute" well compared to a typical putter so I just like it for low and straight, Nothing can compete with it for that throw.
Well done review. It would be easier to see and follow your disc flight if you were in the frame when throwing. It allows the viewer to watch and pick up the disc from your hand and also allows the viewer to see the exact release angle. Thanks.
Also my valk came in super overstable somehow. Like a 161 Champ Valk was more overstable than my 172 teebird.
Mine did too. My G-Star Valk flies and glides just like a brick and goes about as far. Would like to try another one sometime but as is, not for me. I can't believe a T-Bird is not mandatory.
Nova felt like auto griplock for me. To the point where my bad habit has no swayed to early release.
Can't throw a destroyer so he likes the boss...
if you like thunderbirds and firebirds... you'll appreciate an FL. Right in the slot distance wise and easy to control. So many extinct molds worth mentioning too.
I have 2 snowflake Entropies and 2 snowflake Stabelizer. Not sure what happened to your Entropy, but they are a slower Zone and more os in neutron plastic.
How can you say the Croc is the best and yet you have not thrown a Gator?
I realize that tier lists are entirely opinion, and I'm not saying that you're necessarily wrong for having the opinions that you have, and I also understand that this video is almost a year old at this point. However, one critique that I will offer is: if you're doing a tier list of one manufacturer, you can't really compare discs to another manufacturer. A tier list of one would be for building a bag of that particular manufacturer. You put the firebird as mandatory because "there's no other disc from any manufacturer that does what it does." Being a primarily Innova thrower, I know that a DD Felon is (number-wise) basically the exact same disc, and a Discraft Raptor is only slightly different (slightly more glide & marginally less fade). Plenty of discs can fill the slot of a Firebird.
Every manufacturer has their firebird clone, so yes. I think it's silly to say the most popular overstable fairway that's copied time and time again is the only one of it's kind. Quite ignorant actually. I personally like the feel of a Fireball better. And even the name is a ripoff of a firebird 😅