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  @bernardkealey644913 күн бұрын

  One extra feature that I think would be awesome is interchangeable masks (69, 612 etc) which can be hot swapped intra roll. That could be a whole other can of worms - but lots of fun… Not sure how I missed this when it first came out; the results are spectacular

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  @thefilmlaundry13 күн бұрын

  Hmmmm, interesting. Doing it mid roll does add a bit of extra complexity, but I can't see why a mask made of the same spring steel as the Darkside (painted black of course) couldn't be made to insert in the camera side of the film plate, there a few mm of room there and the spring steel is very thin, then you would just need to adjust what you frame up in the ground glass (although that's easy with added guidelines. Honestly the biggest complication would probably be in keeping what frames you need to wind on too right in your head. I'm just finishing up building a Polaroid back for a Hasselblad, I'll have a bit of a look at this problem once that's done. Glad you enjoyed the build.

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  @bernardkealey644913 күн бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry yes, it does add complexity to the workflow, and you’d have to either sacrifice a bit of film on the change over, or make decision which mask you’re using next before winding on. there is some real beauty in the Fuji/voigtlander 66/67 with the internal switch (only accessible when film is out) which just moves each side in or out 5mm; it also changes the wind stop - but they opted for a knob rather than winding lever for that and it’s the biggest complaint most folk have about that camera. But… up-scaling a single 5mm each side move to graduations totalling 40mm each side to get from 6x9 to 6x17 and doing it intra roll, with automatic winder limitations would be quite the challenge… Good luck with the Polaroid back!

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  @bernardkealey644913 күн бұрын

  Would also need multiple red windows - just for extra fun confusion… which some shenhao have, but still…

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  @nguyenngocun233125 күн бұрын

  does this Chroma camera shoot 220 film?

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  @thefilmlaundry25 күн бұрын

  Not really, due to the lack of backing paper on 220 and this also frame numbers (which you need to know you have wound the film on enough for each frame) it would t really work. I suppose you could tape up the frame window and figure out how many turns of the film winding knob you need to do for each shit, but it would be pretty hit or miss. Best to stick to 120 film.

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  @R1_adventures25 күн бұрын

  Thanks for sharing your 6x17 journey. I think i will order one too ^^ and i've got a get question : where did you get your focus screen with a fresnel ? thanks for your help. Regards from France

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  @thefilmlaundry25 күн бұрын

  It's a great way to get into 617. The Fresnal lens is an option when you order the camera, it was an extra $80 from memory.

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  One further thought, not a new thought actually, I was thinking about this long before my camera was even purchased once I realised doing it for the Hasselblad would be far harder than I'd initially thought. I would like to be able to put glass plates into the Shen Hao. I know no-one makes these in 6x17, but I have almost all the stuff to make them myself now, with the final barrier being unexpected difficulties encountered while initially converting the garage in the house we just bought into a darkroom. Basically it needs a new roof first. Right now I have half a kilo of silver nitrate crystals and a box of glass sheets sat doing nothing, along with lots of other chemicals that will probably expire before I get to use them. So I have the equipment and no clear timetable, which is just awesome...

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Oh wow, wet plate is something I'm not even slightly brave enough to try

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry dry, not wet plate, but I already have a wet plate holder for 4x5, but unless things change a lot I'll switch my plans to a digital darkroom, selling all of my current gear to set one up.

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  @theangrymarmot8336Ай бұрын

  As another commenter has said - Awesome for sharing your design files. I am also going to see about modding it to fit my Toyo 4x5 camera. Great series! I think the next "natural" progression is to design the "front half" of a camera to use your already tested and working back? There are a few 3d printed 6x17 camera designs floating out there - but would be fun to design your own.

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Not a problem. Seemed silly to put all that effort in and then keep it to myself. Yeah, have to admit, for no other reason than wondering if I can I have started seriously considering it. Not a once piece like the Chroma, more I'd like to see if I can replicate a Shen Hao completely with all the movements.

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  This sounds exactly how I behave when I'm writing software that I find really interesting. Just one more tweak can't hurt can it?

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Haaa, totally. What's the saying, no project is ever truly finished, just abandoned 😭

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  @garymorrison277Ай бұрын

  Thank for the files, I'll let you know how it goes but I'll have to modify them to fit a 4x5 camera

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Awesome, hope they can be adapted to a 4x5. I'd give it a go but I don't own one to use for mockup and measurements

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry started altering them, ended up with an 8x10 camera instead.....

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Twice the size, must be twice as good 😜

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  this does look interesting, but an original shen Hao film back is only a little over twice what you spent in money and made out of very solid metal. I have considered a 3D printer for some things, but I decided against a 3D printed 6x17 camera because I was concerned about its longevity. Small companies are popping up that will print things for you, so I doubt I'll buy a printer myself now. My Shen Hao 6x17 was expensive, granted, but I don't see it failing or wearing out providing I take care of it. Also it came with two film backs which I wasn't expecting at all. I did buy it directly from Shen Hao rather than via Ebay through an importer, so it's possible I got a better deal, as most sellers advertise it as including one roll film back.

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Oh for sure, honestly the main reason wasn't about saving money, I'm a firm believer in spending money on well made gear will never be a bad thing (my collection of Leica's and Hasselblads and empty bank accounts can attest to that). It was more about seeing if I could do it, using it as a learning experience and also something to help build my 3d modelling skills. If I'm honest, I pretty much can guarantee I will buy a Shen Hao at some stage, but not until my skills demand all that it can do.

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I'm definitely not very good with mine right now, but it was a case of having the money and knowing if I didn't get it now it probably wouldn't happen for years. Having used it a few times I'm hugely pleased with the purchase.

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  @careypridgeon totally the right purchase them 😁 My Xpan put a bit of a halt on new camera purchases for a while 😭

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  @careypridgeonАй бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I can see how that would :) The Xpan interests me, but no-one in the UK can repair one, so I never really considered it seriously.

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  @thefilmlaundryАй бұрын

  Yeah the whole repair thing is a constant worry. But that's a worry for tomorrow Evan, today Evan wanted an Xpan 😂

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  @marksharman80292 ай бұрын

  ... yep, I had one. Took it to The Himalaya. Very concise in it's actions.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Oh wow, that's got to be one of the more remote places ones has been with an Xpan 🤯

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  @marksharman80292 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry it was super stressful getting film in and out. Never again. [2014]

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  I can only imagine, but the images must be priceless

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  @RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY2 ай бұрын

  congrats for hasselblad! I also want to try one day... (Hello from sydney)

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Once you try one, you will want one 😭

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  @RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY2 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry that’s why i havent tried 🫣

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  @timryan8942 ай бұрын

  Can you tell me what size arca Swiss plate you used and the screw size and length for attaching together? I just received my printed parts back.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  That's awesome. I'm using a 200mm plate and the screws were 10mm flathead screws, two on each side seemed to be enough. Just remember to predrill the holes so you don't crack the 3d print.

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  @evanbutson22 ай бұрын

  Forgot to add, the way put it together was, I just the plate on the camera and mounted the arms to the grou d glass with the double sided tape and then added a small dot of hot glue to each of the parts that will be screwed to the plate and put them in place so they were at the right placement so the arms were parallel with the ground glass and move freely, then once I was happy I gingerly unscrewed the plate from the camera so as not to break the hit glue and added the self tapping screws for strength. This was you can put the whole thing on the camera and get the right placement first and just use hit glue to hold it until you add the screws. If that makes any sense 😂

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  @erikvalkman96402 ай бұрын

  Great video, thanks! And well composed shots. 👍 What makes this camera stand out from all the others, apart from its dedicated, large panoramic viewfinder, is the beautiful and appropriate 24mm lens.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Thanks. Yeah, it's amazing, if they had only added a few more features, manual controls, it would probably be one of the best point and shoots available

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Have finally finished the design to a quality I am happy with, its up on Thingiverse now www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Have finally finished the design to a quality I am happy with, its up on Thingiverse now www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Have finally finished the design to a quality I am happy with, its up on Thingiverse now www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537

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  @mascmedia_2 ай бұрын

  The xpan ratio is magic. I love it. I owned a beautiful Fujifilm TX-1 for a while, but I sold it as I was terrified of it turning into a pretty paperweight. I currently don’t have a panoramic camera, but that will change. There’s rumours that Fuji will bring out a digital xpan in a couple of years. In the meantime, I might work towards a Pentax 67 and get the panoramic adapter.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Yeah, I hear you, the fear is real 😬

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  @bchoward00002 ай бұрын

  SGI, Cube, and M0110. Impeccable taste!

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Thanks. The M0110 was junk when I got it, the I ternals completely destroyed by water, basically hand wired every key to a new controller, and made it USB C at the same time. Such a nice keyfeel

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  @RobertBrazile2 ай бұрын

  An SGI machine is oddly analogous to an Xpan. Kudos on the intro. Drew me right back to the 90s. 🙂

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Good point. Both ahead of their time and sadly gone. I actually have two, merged the parts together to make a working o2, and then used the empty case left over for my new PC. Hearing the bootup chime of the o2 was a major memory lane moment

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  @RobertBrazile2 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry OK, that's pretty awesome. If I'd held onto half the "ahead of their time" machines I've had over the years, I could populate my own museum of quirky computer hardware. The Perq, the Bitgraph, the Sun 3/60 (once my daily driver). Managed to avoid the Amiga somehow. And others. But then I'd have no place to live. Hmm, something like the enormous pile of camera equipment I now have. Uh, let's change the subject...

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Haaa, there is no such thing as too many cameras 😜 at least that's what I tell myself.

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  @bernardkealey64492 ай бұрын

  omg You’ve risked cancellation of your XPan Club Card with that little truth bomb… Nice vid. Great provenance story, definitely a piece of history. An adapter hack is always cool to hear, but your ground glass demo makes it far more striking, thanks for going the extra mile. (One thing that may well be true with the xp as is for the Fujis; the shutter count is not absolute like an odometer, but more like a trip meter for high volume shooters to remind them when a maintenance / CLA is recommended, and the service centre would flick a lever and reset it back to 0…) Dog says hi to your cat 😉

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Haaa, I'll lock the doors so they can't get me. Thanks, I wasn't sure anyone would care and just wanted the adapter results, hence the note on where to skip too. Interesting about the odometer, didn't mention that in the manual 😂 Haaa, Ned (cat) is going to have to make an appearance soon I think.

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  @bernardkealey64492 ай бұрын

  I think Ned made an appearance during your bellows making episode?

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Yeah he's a bit like Alfred Hitchcock, appearing in the background

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  @MrJamesschro2 ай бұрын

  Great stuff. Its impressive that you are going at all this in an apartment lol. Makes me feel like a king with a workshop etc... Gotta say, I hate how you replaced those flathead screws, while annoying, they are much nicer looking than phillips imo

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Thanks. I actually caved and ordered new flathead screws and replaced all the Phillips screws after the fact 🤦🏻‍♂️

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  @MrJamesschro2 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry Thats great to hear. Flathead screws are beautiful and they display that a piece was carefully hand assembled, they can torque down much more, and are very hard to strip.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  They do look good, I have to admit, although my OCD was on point making sure every single one lined up so the slot was in line 🤦🏻‍♂️

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  @faraz24982 ай бұрын

  You sound surprised about the precision of timber made parts. Have a look at an Ebony! a skilled craftsman can produce incredibly precise designs with stable fine grained woods.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Oh not surprised by what can be done with timber, probably more surprised at how well they have stood up against the test of time, decades and decades and yet they still fit perfectly, I doubt anything made now out of newer materials would do as good a job.

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  @faraz24982 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry yes that is very impressive given the age and that humidity can impact tolerances.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  @faraz2498 definitely humbled me as I continued to mess up the tolerances on my 3d prints, that's for sure 😂

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  @careypridgeon3 ай бұрын

  When I recently bought my Shen Hao non folding 6x17 new I was extremely worried about the purchase. Mostly about where to get it from, which I solved by going to a physical shop in the UK with a price that included everything, the taxes, import duties and a post import check on the camera. The next thing was the massive cost of a spare film back, in the UK that's a thousand pounds, no small amount. For some reason my camera arrived with two film backs in the box instead of the one I was expecting. Nothing I'd read had led me to think this would happen so I am what you might call extraordinarily delighted. That spare would have cost me a third of the price for the camera. I got a spare ground glass too. My 4x5 is a Chroma Carbon Adventurer. I considered his 6x17, but the discontinuation of his field camera line almost immediately after my purchase rather put me off buying another of his products. I'd hoped to be buying into a line that would see improvements I could upgrade to, not a dead end. The Shen Hao non folding 6x17 is a work of art that I'm slowly learning how to use.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Can't complain about a spare film back, although, means you get to shoot twice the number of rolls 🤣

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  @camerafusion3 ай бұрын

  Another camera on my list 🤦‍♂️ 😆

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Haaa, the list never ends 🤣

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  @abstractbybrian3 ай бұрын

  What light meter are you using?

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Hi, it's a Minolta Spotmeter F. Really great spot meter, I know lots of people like the Pentax, but the Minolta has a few extra features.

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  @Rampsable3 ай бұрын

  Great to see another ausie in this game, just printed velvia's 6x17 and it works like a charm but have always wanted to build or print a 6x17 back for my (rebuilt to 5x7) eastman view 2a. Interested in sharing?😊

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  That's awesome. I'm still in the process of tweaking the design, so the files are a bit of a mess, will keep you posted though.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Have finally finished the design to a level I'm happy with, its up on Thingiverse now www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537

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  @singlended3 ай бұрын

  Steel shim MATERIAL is available.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  That would be preferable to aluminium, thanks for the suggestion, will look into it once I've finished printing the updated design.

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  @kstrohmeier3 ай бұрын

  Blurring the blades with a slower shutter speed might have been an interesting shot.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Now that you say that, it's obvious that could be really cool, whish I had have thought of it at the time 🤦🏻‍♂️😁

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  @billkaroly3 ай бұрын

  Would your film back work on a Russian 5x7 folding camera? Curious, why avoid wet scanning?

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Probably, would require some alterations though as I believe most 5x7 cameras use their own mount for film backs and they generally arnt interchangeable. As for wet scanning, too much mess, cost and hassle for only a small increase in sharpness on my scanner, which I would only really even see on super large prints, which I haven't really done any of, and if I did I'd probably just get my lab to drum scan the nef for me.

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  @billkaroly3 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I'm going for the cheap route for wet scanning. Instead of buying specialty fluid I'm going to use gamsol and some mylar I purchased from Amazon. I have the 750.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Good luck, from the videos Nick Carver has done on it, it looks to give pretty good results on the Epson, from memory one of his shots came out better than on a high end drum scanner

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  @billkaroly3 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I'm 3d printing the Open 617 V8 camera from Printables.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Yeah I've seen that project, the 6x24 looks insane 🤯

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  @forherefornow97963 ай бұрын

  This might be a dumb question but I'm more of a print than scan guy, how do you think that would be with this camera? Never played around with panoramic before. Cheers

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  No such thing as a dumb question. As in printing in a darkroom? Your main issue would be getting a neg holder for your particular enlarger, not even sure if they ever made them. You could do contact prints but they would be kinda small I'm not very up with the ins and outs of darkroom printing though, been decades since I've used one.

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  @forherefornow97963 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry Me neither! Haven't been in a darkroom since high school in the 90s lol, kinda miss it. I was wondering if/how prints would work via regular old drop off commercial develop/ print shop.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Same here 🤣 Hmmm, not sure, most print shops are digital now, don't know of any that still so old school printing to photo paper. If you could find a company that does 4x5 and 8x10 printing, I think they'd be able to handle them but the cost would be mighty high for such a custom job. Hmmmmm, maybe that's a new project for me, building an enlarger mount for 617 🤦🏻‍♂️

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  @forherefornow97963 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I'm in LA and there are actually a fair number of places left to get prints, I do it pretty often. They are starting to slowly disappear though, sadly. I feel like if I dropped off this roll of film it might be a head scratcher for them though, that's my concern. Or maybe it would be an interesting experiment, who knows! Thanks for your replies, appreciate your perspective and info.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  I'm jealous, they've pretty much disappeared from here. Been a long time since I was in LA, loved it though.

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  @chriscard65443 ай бұрын

  the trick with the magnet is awesome

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Magents solve almost all issues if you have enough of them 🤣

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  @time_to_waste3 ай бұрын

  Glad you finished the project to your satisfaction. Can not wait a day when i will be able to share a video about my project on my channel too. and of course now I’m waiting for a video about yours x-pan, this is going to be fun. Peace

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Do it, one of my fav things is watching other people's projects, even if it's not my interest I love watching pwow build things.

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  @RobertBrazile3 ай бұрын

  Enjoyed your carefully stepping through your experience with your thought process behind each step. Thanks very much for the thorough recap. Has lessons for anyone considering something like this.

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Thanks, I always wonder if I'm waffling on too much about each problem 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  @RobertBrazile3 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I think the fact you're worrying about it is keeping you well on the right side of the line. If it interests you, it's likely to interest others; aiming for something that will please everybody will be unlikely to please anybody, so good for you for digging in.

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  @monkeysausageclub3 ай бұрын

  Great work buddy. Any plans to make the 3D STL files available for sale or open source?

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  Hey thanks. Not sure as yet, a few people have asked about buying the files. I still have another round of small fixes and adjustments I want to do, so once i print them I'll see. Will let you know.

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  @thefilmlaundry2 ай бұрын

  Have finally finished the design to a quality I am happy with, its up on Thingiverse now www.thingiverse.com/thing:6625537

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  @Liathephotato134 ай бұрын

  I'm currently trying to get into film photography and I'm a DSLR shooter at the moment. How do you recommend getting into it?

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Buy yourself a Canon AE1 or a Nikon FE 2 with a 50mm lens. A roll of Kodak Gold 200 or Ilford HP5 and just start shooting, you won't look back.

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  @Liathephotato133 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry What about developing it?

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  @thefilmlaundry3 ай бұрын

  If you want to develop your own film, it's not too hard these days, Cinestill makes a kit, that includes all the chemicals pre mixed, you just add water and a siu vide heater to keep the chemicals at the correct temperature I used to develop my own, but unless you are shooting and developing a lot, it doesn't really make financial sense as chemicals go off after they have been mixed so you need to use them up within the several months. I just dont shoot enough to justify the cost. But it was fun to do

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  @silverphotographylife91964 ай бұрын

  Sheer genius, love your ingenuity

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Thanks. But I was really just building on all the other awesome 617 3d printed cameras like the Chroma. Just used them as inspiration.

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  @silverphotographylife91964 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry we’re all standing on the shoulders of giants!

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  @PhilTaylorPhotog4 ай бұрын

  A few years ago I got lost up there (despite actively doing my best to remember my entrance point) with a Linhof 4x5 monorail, Full Nikkor DSLR system and a Gitzo with geared head. I walked around for about 10km up there after sunset trying to find my way out. Thankfully I retraced my steps via strava - not too reliable but it saved me that day. Its a fantastic place and I was happy with my results but I was told later that "Little Drift" nearby is aesthetically better...next time I'm down there I'll go check it out (albeit with someone else next time).

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Oh wow, yeah, that would have been a hard slog, even without getting lost 🤦🏻‍♂️ I hadn't heard of the little drift, just googled it, well now I know what I'm shooting next, thanks for the heads-up.

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  @PhilTaylorPhotog3 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry Look forward to the results! Enjoying seeing your Chroma experience. I used to work for John Temple years ago and have always been tempted to go pano although I prefer the 6x12 ratio.

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  @thetinmansheart4 ай бұрын

  Fabulous

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Thanks

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  @killer1200705074 ай бұрын

  Perhaps you should sacrifice a roll of Foma 100 to find light leaks? You should try to test out the film holder itself with the darkslide in. Simply let the film holder lay with dark slide facing the sun for a few minutes. Advance to the next frame and try again with the film holder having the dark slide facing away from the sun. Next frame, no lens ( but with a lens board blocking the front standard), with the film holder attached and no dark slide let the camera be hit by the sun from the upper right, advance the frame and try again this time with the sun shining on the camera from the upper left. This should give you plenty of clues as to where the light leak is actually appearing. You could then try adding several layers of black plastic over the bellows and repeating the process. Then try to expose one part of the bellows to the sun, letting the rest of the bellows be covered by black plastic etc.

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Since the video I received the new bellows and that has fixed ally light leak issues, thank god 🤦🏻‍♂️

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  @iansimpson93514 ай бұрын

  Rolo my long haired miniature Dachshund says hi back and I say nicely done. You did a brilliant job and it has given me inspiration and added another camera build to my list. I love the 6x17 format so I am looking forward to more videos of you using it.

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Hi Rolo 👋🏻 Half way through filming an update, fair bit has happened that's interesting,should be finished in a week or so, have one more shoot I want to do. Good luck with your build

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  @27photogger4 ай бұрын

  Ugh,,,, that music was so distracting…. It was all I could hear

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Haaa, I have to admit, the music is the last thing I do and also rushed. But noted. My last few videos the music has been a lot quieter and less in your face

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  @antonymorris19624 ай бұрын

  nice video. Subscribed

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Thanks 🙏🏻

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  @chromagraphphotoart4 ай бұрын

  I have the 'Magic' Viewfinder. In one word, it's Sh*t. Congrats on achieving this, not a simple task at all!

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Agreed the Magic Viewfinder app is far from great, it's pretty much the only option on Android though 🤦🏻‍♂️ IOS has so many better ones, almost worth getting an iphone

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  @petersker4 ай бұрын

  That's awesome! Inspiring as hell. As for your light leak... did you check the bottom of your lens board. You did modify something around there, didn't you? Added some piece of plastic.... Taken into account, that a light leak is somehow rounded at the bottom left part of the image and that there is some lens flare effect, I would check the lens board / fitting.

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Good suggestion, as it turns out the leak was very close to there, it was a small gap where the front standard was glued on, only opened up when the bellows were retracted for the 90mm lens, that's why I didn't notice it with the bellows fully out.

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  So quick update, unjust got the new bellows and glued them in, and wow, what a difference. Then, as a 'why the hell not' I got the torch in around the edges of the lens board, and now that the leak from the bellows was not in the way, guess what, you were right, there was the faintest light leak on the left and right sides of the lens board near the top. I could t see it before because the bellows leak was more noticeable. Anyway, I added a small felt gasket around the 3d printed spacer and whammo, no more leaks. So thanks for the suggestion I would have never even thought of that as being a problem, it looked so well sealed, but I was wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  @petersker3 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I'm glad I helped.😀

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  @patriciasawas10904 ай бұрын

  Thanks for your great video. I have recently purchased the chroma 6x17 too but have only managed to get out with it twice so far. First time with tripod using focusing screen and yesterday using it hand held and zone focusing. I haven't developed yesterdays film yet but am interested to see how that comes out. As you said shooting 6x17 is very strange and will take some time to become familiar with it and be able to pre-visualise. One great thing I did learn from your video was not to actually remove the dark slide because its very awkward to re-insert. I have now marked my darkslide so that I know how high I can lift it up to clear the film area but keep it within the actual camera. Thanks again and I look forwards to seeing more of your images.

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  @patriciasawas10904 ай бұрын

  Forgot to mention, I too use a 135mm lens because my large Schnieder Kreuschnach 90mm is not compatible. I also think I need something a little wider. What 135 are you using?

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  That's great to hear, it's a fun camera. I definitely find using my phone with the viewfinder app set to 617 with my 135 is a great help, often when I'm just out and about inpull it out to see what things will look like. I haven't been brave enough to shoot handheld yet 🤯

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  I have the Fujinon SW 135 it's a great lens, very sharp. I recently got the 90 Fujinon as well which I believe will fit with the proper lens cone, not as sharp as the 135 with a bot of distortion on the edges. I'm glad I got the 135 first as it has taught me a lot

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  @patriciasawas10904 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry I bought one of the little Chroma cold shoe frame finders which is helpful

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  @patriciasawas10903 ай бұрын

  👍

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  @tommytomsky4 ай бұрын

  Hello 👋 I have feeling that tape around your ground glass it’s making your focusing not perfection

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Hi, actually o don't show it in the video but I removed the tape from the camera side of the glass, it was redundant and also just in case. So there is actually only tape on the top side that can't effect focus. On revising the footage I shot of me taking the test doxusbahot I realised o had inadvertently added a slight amount of shift to the rear standard which would account for the focus change.

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  @Not.so.Exotic4 ай бұрын

  Cool stuff mate! Also I love the locations you shot! I've been to them both many times haha

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Appreciate it

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  @time_to_waste4 ай бұрын

  Wow! Thank you, a lot of useful information. Your channel popped up in my recommendations just in time. Peace

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Thanks, glad it's of help

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  @bernardkealey64494 ай бұрын

  So much awesome! Hope that the new bellows do come as described and give no hassles. Truly inspiring stuff. I hope that the tensioning between the spools stays firm and consistent over time; given you don’t have a pressure plate tension is probably the weakest link for keeping focus across the actual in camera plane. My dog looks forward to the future series where you make your own 6x17 enlarger 😉

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Yeah, I basically replicated the Chromas design on film advance and that hasn't got a pressure plate either and I have had no issues, I have added a felt pad to the back that takes the place of a pressure plate, and as far as I can see the ShenHao hasn't got one other, so fingers crossed. Haa, I just sold my darkroom gear, was taking up too much space 🤣

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  @bernardkealey64494 ай бұрын

  @@thefilmlaundry when you decide you really need a cnc milling machine and therefore move to the country so can afford a house and shed you can get the darkroom back 😂 What would be really cool for ANY 6x12 or 6x17 is a film back with winder mechanism a la Mamiya Press series iii film back. I hate window/winding, but that’s just me.

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Haaaa, that will be the day. I did see a 3d printed camera with a winding mechanism, so it's possible I suppose. Hmmmmmmm🙄

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  @gamespazm4 ай бұрын

  The flat head screws looked nicer even though I agree they suck to have to work with!

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  I kind of agree, I did even polish them up, but ended up swapping them (saved them though just in case )

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Damn you 😝 this has been stuck in my head for days, the flathead did look better, just so annoying to screw. Guess who just ordered a new set of stainless flatheads 🤦🏻‍♂️

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  @johnfurr87794 ай бұрын

  I designed my own 3D printed roll film back for use on the shen hao, and then I made the back able to convert to a point and shoot camera as well, since I can use that right away. I posted a bit about it on largeformat forums a few weeks ago. I have lever action film advance on mine. I'm building my own ebony/shen hao 6x17 field camera though because of the cost to buy a new or used version. I need to wait for better weather to set up my wood working shop before I can get to the wood camera build though

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  @thefilmlaundry4 ай бұрын

  Nice. I wish I had room for woodworking tools, I miss the process.