Watching this surprised me, due to realising how similar the magic in my own world building is Touhou's magic "system". Not sure how much of that is accidental inspiration, or just co-incidence. Because my setting follows a very similar principle, that reality is defined by will and collective belief. I played very deliberately on the idea of soft vs hard being an inherent trait of the setting, rather than just the writing. That in the earliest eras, the "world" was a chaotic soup of thoughts and concepts, where reality was more like a collaborative fever dream, inhabited by different personalities. Then over time, that chaos gradually "crystallised" into a more cohesive and tangible world. Concepts such as "up and down", distance, heat, cold, etc had been widely understood and "agreed upon" by the entities of the world, and thus became universal laws of reality. But despite that, there was still room, and very importantly, *the strong desire* to break those laws. This is the essence of magic, and creatures with magical abilities. A being with enough will to do something extraordinary, may well be capable of it. A group of beings that all come to a common consensus, eg, "Saying these magic words and performing the correct actions, allows you to conjure fire" or "It's possible to ignore the cold if you eat this berry", could gradually be worked into reality. Wide enough belief could cause just about anything to become true, but a key aspect in making this more likely, was when the concept held some degree of emotional co-coherency, or more ironically, logical structure and consistency. Eg... "I can cast fireballs" is weak. Just wishful thinking, unless the individual has truly exceptional will, or some other unique circumstances. "I can cast fireballs on Tuesday" feels arbitrary and doubtful. "You can cast fireballs if you train your mind and trace these special symbols, but beware the burning in your heart" feels more reasonable, like there's some secret of reality being tapped into. An unknown law to exploit. "Pyromancy is most effective during the zenith of the sun, and least effective at high tide. The burning of special incense in preparation will attune the mana with the element of fire. Beware channelling the planar energies of Smoulder or Crucible, for you risk opening a conduit to the beings that reside there." Is so specific and clearly speaking from some established experience, that it practically writes that particular "art of magic" into reality itself. So specificity practiced and accepted by many, is an engine towards power and reliable application of magic. It also however, limits the magic by imposing rules upon itself. The "harder" a school of magic, the less flexible it is, and the more difficult to change it or create new spells. It also imposes a higher degree of learning to master, and codes in specific failure points. The ironic thing about this, is that multiple such theories of magic all exist within the same world, very frequently contradicting each other. More so the further you travel from your local culture. This both confounds magic users, but also fuels certain individuals to break the rules in more creative ways, or to combine different theories to varying success, and cause truly ENDLESS arguments among magical scholars. It meant that even the most ardent follower of a particular magical science, was forced to admit that there were "anomalies" and "other ways". Disgruntled accusations of dark magic, witch craft, and innate sorcerous powers, inadvertently gave strength to those that existed outside of the understood theories, or deliberately defied the attempts at science. Fringe traditions only practiced by a few, still maintained power by the majority accepting that it clearly could be done, even if it were primitive or wrong in some manner. "It's not properly understood how the witches draw their power, despite their blatant disregard for Torrhen's 3rd law of mana-harmonics, and yet..." - The thing I enjoyed about this "system" was that it meant I was incredibly free to make things up as I went along, and include just about every flavour of fantasy magic I wanted. It allowed both rigid, hard and institutional magic to exist, right alongside wild and unexplained soft magic. So I feel like I can relate to Zun, with how my deliberate kitchen-sink-fantasy setting, mimics the kitchen-sink-mythology and the same freedom he allowed himself in writing for Gensokyo.
@naut607722 сағат бұрын
"I'll give her something to do in her fucking free time"
@kitsunesden8085Күн бұрын
"Did I clickbaited you [...]? Yes, and I'll do it a third time!". *The audacity!* 😂
@kitsunesden8085Күн бұрын
"La creatura!" 😂
@nowlwane96232 күн бұрын
Would the Doom Slayer fit in the Touhou lore?
@Krico8872 күн бұрын
Just so you know i'm here beacuse of the thumbnail
@FROZENbender2 күн бұрын
Patchouli IS my wife
@genericyoutubeusername64623 күн бұрын
damnit i skipped to the end so now i know it was a trap crad
@DaNuggetisreal3 күн бұрын
Well lucky for me my waifu can be Sanae too
@zackerhia9144 күн бұрын
i wanna be a swordsman!! YOUMU IM COMING OVER WEATHER THROUGH DEATH OR MAKING IT THERE!
@Aeroi-fz1hp4 күн бұрын
Imagine being depressed then randomly fucking teleporting to Gensokyo to see Satori Komeiji running up to your ass to have a feast 💀💀💀💀💀
@GabeSaiyung-ez6bs4 күн бұрын
If I’m reincarnated as a different person with Powers/Weapons like… Kratos (God of War), Doom Slayer (Doomguy), or my OC as a Super Human (Possibly halving the same potential as Frieza) like the ones in Dragon Ball Z (If I however were given more time on training on Various planets like… Planet Yardrat (Learning all and mastering their Spiritual Techniques), King Kai’s Planet (Learning and Mastering Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb.), Beerus’ Planet (Mastering God Ki), and getting my Potential unlocked by Elder Kai (Possibly getting my own Form after ascending my Ultimate Form.). The last part is very much debatable if I was dead the entire time in other world.
@The_Healeress4 күн бұрын
Me who has cluster headaches and asd (autism spectrum disorder): yep I’m going to die aren’t I
@kosuken4 күн бұрын
I love cirno and sakuya and patchouli and remilia and flandere and all other I cant pick favorites ffs
@vorlonagent4 күн бұрын
Gensokyo is The Land of the Lost.
@stephenbeatty98565 күн бұрын
I’m gonna go there and I’m gonna play loud music to annoy the youkai
@christianresel80515 күн бұрын
easily said, no, no i would not be able to survive there given my current powerlevel. Kaguya is out of my league, and given the chanze? I would attack her. I would fail HARD on that. Lets be honest, she snips and i am a gonner, even when being basicaly the crybaby that she is and calling for eirin she would retaliate. I know perfectly well that killing her will not work, still some sort of vengence for the Fujiwara clan (wich was ENDED by Kaguya, moukou is the only survivor)? Would go for it. Dieing like a warrior is better than letting her get away unscratched. Also i would either be mad OR have a rabbit as pet given i would test myself and look straight into raisens eyes. She cant turn me mad, i am already mad for even THINKING i could go to Eientei and CHALLANGE kaguya. In the very unlikely posibility that i survive OR get my hands on that elexir myself thou then ofc. hermit life it is. Training and drinking tea with remilia and such. Also escaping? You cant. You WILL go to the nether, heaven or Hell. Thats not for you to decide anyway. Nether would be your best outcome, given it REINCARNATES you! So yea, Isekai is part of Japanese Fulclore already so at one point they DID belive in it. Heaven and Hell are obvious(duh!). Also they reincarnate me? Pls as my RPG char then if i have a choice in it.
@redmondgd5 күн бұрын
I can't stop laughing after hearing Sakuya's pad story lol.
@Ganmue6 күн бұрын
That's a killer finishing line "It's touhou's magic, that builds its community" You've got a magical way with words, great job!
@exploh6 күн бұрын
I love how this took such a innocent turn instead of hentai xD
@PekinTenikura6 күн бұрын
Wonderful explanation.
@owea7 күн бұрын
nah, id win
@owea7 күн бұрын
BTW youkai are repelled by salt, charms and prayer.
@darkkira13327 күн бұрын
The way this is laid out reminds me of 3-4 fanmade touhou games I discovered years ago. Well...minus the risque part. Man, I should replay those, I wonde if the guys still work on them.
@katlafae94877 күн бұрын
Im glad you made this video i always had interest in touhou series but only watched the animation and read manga never played the game and stuff and the wiki don't put nowhere as information and detail as you did so thanks
@myadyth70487 күн бұрын
I have a feeling you won't read a comment on an old video, but I have always loved how her ability seems to be in line with the concept of Dao. It's like she is attuned to a path of least resistance. She does not need to think about winning a battle, much in the same way that a river does not need to try to flow, or a tree does not need to try to grow (iirc, these are the exact examples given in the tao te ching?). It is effortless movement. Truly an amazing ability.
@GensouChronicle7 күн бұрын
A lot of people have pointed out that this lines up with Wu Wei (nonaction). I believe there was a character in the manga that actually says she's a lot like a Taoist.
@AyaneOfDeath8 күн бұрын
Iam casual... I like Yukari.... Got into trough Gensou Skydrift and Lunar Nights since a few months I read the touhou wiki and consume Fan Vids altough I didn't had a single piece of interest in the franchise a few months ago
@quinn8518 күн бұрын
eight months later and you now you're 22k nice
@unfunniestman8 күн бұрын
Raymoo Hackery: lololol im so invincible with my ability to hax The Watatsuki no Marysue in question:
@superspider649 күн бұрын
Ayo why the thumbnail pic kinda...?
@SacredFaerie9 күн бұрын
Ooh I see KamS footage, based
@depressomocha9 күн бұрын
Ignoring most of these and goes straight to Rinnosuke and impress him with my Outside World knowledge. Bonus point if I managed to marry him. My plan is very solid (ignoring how to get there in the first place)
@The_Storm_That_Is_Approaching9 күн бұрын
Gensokyo is just filled to the brim w/ magic. You could almost say that it's... a Civilization of Magic?
@Pefonmo10 күн бұрын
Everyone talking about sex magic but ignoring that Suwako died from trolling? Heartless bastards.
@RandomMemeGuy699610 күн бұрын
Question 5: what is cirno Me: why isn’t it question 9?
@shirleymaemattthews486210 күн бұрын
Since you talked about ACTUAL Magicians here, what about how they might feel or even whatever about THE OTHER KIND of "Magicians"? Like, the ones who do be doing card "tricks" and illusions on stages and doing the..let's just say.."theatrical" kind of "magic"...?
@UnIdiotConUnChannel10 күн бұрын
Could? Already did 🕺🕺🕺🗣🔥
@NANA-yj8sw10 күн бұрын
I bought this game roughly 3 days ago and have already 27 hours on it. Bought the DLC package instantly and have already recommended to friends....im no where near done but this game is fantastic and addicting
@speedstriker10 күн бұрын
Yes. I will have Satori's hand in marriage.
@Gunky-Goober11 күн бұрын
I might be depressed? I don't think so, though... Yay! Into the Shrine I go!
@ultimatevexation878211 күн бұрын
9:24 lol hi Reimu
@esbebeboy112511 күн бұрын
Whats the outro song?
@mariic211 күн бұрын
Simple: I'd exercise my 2nd Amendment rights when necessary.
@speedstriker11 күн бұрын
Find cirno. Join cirno. Win.
@notlikethis578211 күн бұрын
3:10 Could that be... Osana Reimu?
@Erd-kd7gw11 күн бұрын
i literally know nothing about touhou except that i played it a few times, i still have it, and that it is very popular. bully me
@deretti34711 күн бұрын
Patchouli magic being related to Feng Shui is very interesting because her projectiles in her fight in Touhou 6 are also similar to how the energy of the elements projects in the original belief, I think is a subtle reference too or Zun trying to make a possibility but not confirming
@stormstrider11 күн бұрын
Rinnosuke is literally half youkai
@Nsquare_0112 күн бұрын
Her ability reminds me a lot of those one click hold/ zero click levels from geometry dash lmao.
@AllisterAkaiki13 күн бұрын
Thank you for this explanation on proving that through our own belief, love with youkai can be accomplished. Now, without further ado, I'm going to swan dive into that hole that appears at 2:54, 4:15, and 6:58.
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Watching this surprised me, due to realising how similar the magic in my own world building is Touhou's magic "system". Not sure how much of that is accidental inspiration, or just co-incidence. Because my setting follows a very similar principle, that reality is defined by will and collective belief. I played very deliberately on the idea of soft vs hard being an inherent trait of the setting, rather than just the writing. That in the earliest eras, the "world" was a chaotic soup of thoughts and concepts, where reality was more like a collaborative fever dream, inhabited by different personalities. Then over time, that chaos gradually "crystallised" into a more cohesive and tangible world. Concepts such as "up and down", distance, heat, cold, etc had been widely understood and "agreed upon" by the entities of the world, and thus became universal laws of reality. But despite that, there was still room, and very importantly, *the strong desire* to break those laws. This is the essence of magic, and creatures with magical abilities. A being with enough will to do something extraordinary, may well be capable of it. A group of beings that all come to a common consensus, eg, "Saying these magic words and performing the correct actions, allows you to conjure fire" or "It's possible to ignore the cold if you eat this berry", could gradually be worked into reality. Wide enough belief could cause just about anything to become true, but a key aspect in making this more likely, was when the concept held some degree of emotional co-coherency, or more ironically, logical structure and consistency. Eg... "I can cast fireballs" is weak. Just wishful thinking, unless the individual has truly exceptional will, or some other unique circumstances. "I can cast fireballs on Tuesday" feels arbitrary and doubtful. "You can cast fireballs if you train your mind and trace these special symbols, but beware the burning in your heart" feels more reasonable, like there's some secret of reality being tapped into. An unknown law to exploit. "Pyromancy is most effective during the zenith of the sun, and least effective at high tide. The burning of special incense in preparation will attune the mana with the element of fire. Beware channelling the planar energies of Smoulder or Crucible, for you risk opening a conduit to the beings that reside there." Is so specific and clearly speaking from some established experience, that it practically writes that particular "art of magic" into reality itself. So specificity practiced and accepted by many, is an engine towards power and reliable application of magic. It also however, limits the magic by imposing rules upon itself. The "harder" a school of magic, the less flexible it is, and the more difficult to change it or create new spells. It also imposes a higher degree of learning to master, and codes in specific failure points. The ironic thing about this, is that multiple such theories of magic all exist within the same world, very frequently contradicting each other. More so the further you travel from your local culture. This both confounds magic users, but also fuels certain individuals to break the rules in more creative ways, or to combine different theories to varying success, and cause truly ENDLESS arguments among magical scholars. It meant that even the most ardent follower of a particular magical science, was forced to admit that there were "anomalies" and "other ways". Disgruntled accusations of dark magic, witch craft, and innate sorcerous powers, inadvertently gave strength to those that existed outside of the understood theories, or deliberately defied the attempts at science. Fringe traditions only practiced by a few, still maintained power by the majority accepting that it clearly could be done, even if it were primitive or wrong in some manner. "It's not properly understood how the witches draw their power, despite their blatant disregard for Torrhen's 3rd law of mana-harmonics, and yet..." - The thing I enjoyed about this "system" was that it meant I was incredibly free to make things up as I went along, and include just about every flavour of fantasy magic I wanted. It allowed both rigid, hard and institutional magic to exist, right alongside wild and unexplained soft magic. So I feel like I can relate to Zun, with how my deliberate kitchen-sink-fantasy setting, mimics the kitchen-sink-mythology and the same freedom he allowed himself in writing for Gensokyo.
"I'll give her something to do in her fucking free time"
"Did I clickbaited you [...]? Yes, and I'll do it a third time!". *The audacity!* 😂
"La creatura!" 😂
Would the Doom Slayer fit in the Touhou lore?
Just so you know i'm here beacuse of the thumbnail
Patchouli IS my wife
damnit i skipped to the end so now i know it was a trap crad
Well lucky for me my waifu can be Sanae too
i wanna be a swordsman!! YOUMU IM COMING OVER WEATHER THROUGH DEATH OR MAKING IT THERE!
Imagine being depressed then randomly fucking teleporting to Gensokyo to see Satori Komeiji running up to your ass to have a feast 💀💀💀💀💀
If I’m reincarnated as a different person with Powers/Weapons like… Kratos (God of War), Doom Slayer (Doomguy), or my OC as a Super Human (Possibly halving the same potential as Frieza) like the ones in Dragon Ball Z (If I however were given more time on training on Various planets like… Planet Yardrat (Learning all and mastering their Spiritual Techniques), King Kai’s Planet (Learning and Mastering Kaioken and the Spirit Bomb.), Beerus’ Planet (Mastering God Ki), and getting my Potential unlocked by Elder Kai (Possibly getting my own Form after ascending my Ultimate Form.). The last part is very much debatable if I was dead the entire time in other world.
Me who has cluster headaches and asd (autism spectrum disorder): yep I’m going to die aren’t I
I love cirno and sakuya and patchouli and remilia and flandere and all other I cant pick favorites ffs
Gensokyo is The Land of the Lost.
I’m gonna go there and I’m gonna play loud music to annoy the youkai
easily said, no, no i would not be able to survive there given my current powerlevel. Kaguya is out of my league, and given the chanze? I would attack her. I would fail HARD on that. Lets be honest, she snips and i am a gonner, even when being basicaly the crybaby that she is and calling for eirin she would retaliate. I know perfectly well that killing her will not work, still some sort of vengence for the Fujiwara clan (wich was ENDED by Kaguya, moukou is the only survivor)? Would go for it. Dieing like a warrior is better than letting her get away unscratched. Also i would either be mad OR have a rabbit as pet given i would test myself and look straight into raisens eyes. She cant turn me mad, i am already mad for even THINKING i could go to Eientei and CHALLANGE kaguya. In the very unlikely posibility that i survive OR get my hands on that elexir myself thou then ofc. hermit life it is. Training and drinking tea with remilia and such. Also escaping? You cant. You WILL go to the nether, heaven or Hell. Thats not for you to decide anyway. Nether would be your best outcome, given it REINCARNATES you! So yea, Isekai is part of Japanese Fulclore already so at one point they DID belive in it. Heaven and Hell are obvious(duh!). Also they reincarnate me? Pls as my RPG char then if i have a choice in it.
I can't stop laughing after hearing Sakuya's pad story lol.
That's a killer finishing line "It's touhou's magic, that builds its community" You've got a magical way with words, great job!
I love how this took such a innocent turn instead of hentai xD
Wonderful explanation.
nah, id win
BTW youkai are repelled by salt, charms and prayer.
The way this is laid out reminds me of 3-4 fanmade touhou games I discovered years ago. Well...minus the risque part. Man, I should replay those, I wonde if the guys still work on them.
Im glad you made this video i always had interest in touhou series but only watched the animation and read manga never played the game and stuff and the wiki don't put nowhere as information and detail as you did so thanks
I have a feeling you won't read a comment on an old video, but I have always loved how her ability seems to be in line with the concept of Dao. It's like she is attuned to a path of least resistance. She does not need to think about winning a battle, much in the same way that a river does not need to try to flow, or a tree does not need to try to grow (iirc, these are the exact examples given in the tao te ching?). It is effortless movement. Truly an amazing ability.
A lot of people have pointed out that this lines up with Wu Wei (nonaction). I believe there was a character in the manga that actually says she's a lot like a Taoist.
Iam casual... I like Yukari.... Got into trough Gensou Skydrift and Lunar Nights since a few months I read the touhou wiki and consume Fan Vids altough I didn't had a single piece of interest in the franchise a few months ago
eight months later and you now you're 22k nice
Raymoo Hackery: lololol im so invincible with my ability to hax The Watatsuki no Marysue in question:
Ayo why the thumbnail pic kinda...?
Ooh I see KamS footage, based
Ignoring most of these and goes straight to Rinnosuke and impress him with my Outside World knowledge. Bonus point if I managed to marry him. My plan is very solid (ignoring how to get there in the first place)
Gensokyo is just filled to the brim w/ magic. You could almost say that it's... a Civilization of Magic?
Everyone talking about sex magic but ignoring that Suwako died from trolling? Heartless bastards.
Question 5: what is cirno Me: why isn’t it question 9?
Since you talked about ACTUAL Magicians here, what about how they might feel or even whatever about THE OTHER KIND of "Magicians"? Like, the ones who do be doing card "tricks" and illusions on stages and doing the..let's just say.."theatrical" kind of "magic"...?
Could? Already did 🕺🕺🕺🗣🔥
I bought this game roughly 3 days ago and have already 27 hours on it. Bought the DLC package instantly and have already recommended to friends....im no where near done but this game is fantastic and addicting
Yes. I will have Satori's hand in marriage.
I might be depressed? I don't think so, though... Yay! Into the Shrine I go!
9:24 lol hi Reimu
Whats the outro song?
Simple: I'd exercise my 2nd Amendment rights when necessary.
Find cirno. Join cirno. Win.
3:10 Could that be... Osana Reimu?
i literally know nothing about touhou except that i played it a few times, i still have it, and that it is very popular. bully me
Patchouli magic being related to Feng Shui is very interesting because her projectiles in her fight in Touhou 6 are also similar to how the energy of the elements projects in the original belief, I think is a subtle reference too or Zun trying to make a possibility but not confirming
Rinnosuke is literally half youkai
Her ability reminds me a lot of those one click hold/ zero click levels from geometry dash lmao.
Thank you for this explanation on proving that through our own belief, love with youkai can be accomplished. Now, without further ado, I'm going to swan dive into that hole that appears at 2:54, 4:15, and 6:58.