I can't even hit that stun thingy properly to start it, I keep sending them flying with a purple electric punch 💀
@OrenMystery17 күн бұрын
Person 1 & 2: Rock, paper, scissor- Person 2: Ferps tech Person 1: Wait that's not- _it's free real estate_
@GabePlayTK18 күн бұрын
Motion input scary
@citrusblast437218 күн бұрын
I first started in smash and now play tekken. i havent touched smash in what seems years, and it feels like i would play better in it than i did before
@christianworcester685118 күн бұрын
Ive never heard of smashers being bad at traditional fighters, maybe ultimate players because there game is brain dead, but melee players? There freaks of nature, my boi is a long time melee player and no joke he can pick up a game almost immediately. We were playing marvel 2 and like, two days in he was doing msp tod's, he said and i quote "this games kinda slow and easy" to fucking MARVEL 2 lol. Melee is the most complex game ever made.
@ragingtyga19 күн бұрын
Except for Leffen, he's pretty good
@ShinTheLast20 күн бұрын
It'd crazy that I want that black Training stage background rn
@ShinTheLast20 күн бұрын
Bro is doing this on Joycon 😭 but as of right now I have to used the joycons so this gonna give me some respect points😂
@user-mz6pv2zs4g21 күн бұрын
MUI goku from DBFZ and kazuya are kind of the same with projectiles
@sonicpoweryay24 күн бұрын
celeste reference
@Xxblade1724 күн бұрын
Cool
@Stigma53625 күн бұрын
My brain not comprehend
@mrosskneАй бұрын
what's tech chasing?
@jdhill26Ай бұрын
Police!!!
@Blaze-lo8swАй бұрын
whenever i do the stun input its almost always the regular version without the stun and tips on how to improve that
@Kingbee642Ай бұрын
congrats for doing that on a single joycon
@Yvs8962Ай бұрын
Idk man I didnt really have this problem, I got good at fighting games pretty quick coming from Smash
@OrenMystery13 күн бұрын
This video is a generalization of the topic, and it's extremely common. You're missing the point.
@Yvs896213 күн бұрын
@@OrenMystery I dont really think I missed the point. He is saying that Smash players have a hard time translating their skill into fighting games. I have played Smash in tourney long enough to know that A LOT of tournament level Smash players have 0 skill, and plenty of characters in Smash dont teach any fundies. Its not that they cant translate the skill, they just dont have it. Every Smash player Ive known who was actually good at Smash and went on to play a fighting game got good at that without any kind of struggle. A guy from my region who was low PR in Smash went on to get 2nd at a major in GBVS. Another guy from my region who was Unranked (but good) in Smash Top 8’d a major in Strive. I dont think anyone knew that either of these guys were Smash players so it went under the radar, but their skill didnt just translate, they got way better at the fighting game than they were at Smash. If you understand fighting game concepts, getting good at a new game is just about gaining knowledge of the game and how those concepts apply to it. So long as you have the foundation, this is very intuitive by simply playing the game. The average smash player does not have the foundation Im afraid.
@OrenMystery13 күн бұрын
@@Yvs8962 That's... you know I have to agree with you. I can't really disagree with anything.
@Cool30Comics10 күн бұрын
Yeah it wasn’t too different for me either. TFG just feel more like a turn based rpg, where responses need to be exact and positioning/movement is more committal. Just gotta slow down.
@ubaldodelacruzhernandez6739Ай бұрын
I DID NOT KNOW THIS
@Bomberman64xАй бұрын
How do you crouch jab after cdc? I allways get crouch spin kick :T
@jennyqin3298Ай бұрын
Started off with a clip of him getting shit on by riddles...
@ToshisGardenАй бұрын
People in the comments acting like you can't be a Smash player AND a fighting game player, and that Smash isn't a fighting party game that can be customized to be more of a fighting game or party game. Smash Ultimate literally has a mode inspired by KOF, as well as a KOF stage that would transition perfectly into a fighter. You can play in stamina mode which works like traditional fighting game health bars, toggle what are essentially super meters, and, iirc you can adjust the gravity in your matches, though I might be wrong on that one. You can also add rounds like in fighting games (rounds are separate from stocks, so you can change it to be one stock per round if you want to be more authentic to the feel of a traditional fighter), and adjust the clock.
@kaydenthomas1124Ай бұрын
Problem is it always dragon uppercuts for me
@BboostedАй бұрын
dude if we are counting these games as fighting games so is fucking naruto storm or whatever that shit is called... like lets be real for a second. termanology is different, the way recovery works is different, oki literally doesnt exist... these are not fighting games they are their own thing which isnt bad but its not a fighting game
@oneshott.v.gaming2081Ай бұрын
DUDE IF NO ONE IS GONNA SAY IT I WILL HOW DOES HE DO THIS ON A JOYSTICK?!!!
@whochangedthis8485Ай бұрын
Anyone wondering what the blue line is: it shows up on the opponent when they are hit showing which direction they are holding for a short time.
@JuilySlay2 ай бұрын
my standpoint is that if YOU don't like playing against a character, YOU play a different game. Let the people who like playing as/against these characters do so, especially since ultimate isn't getting any more updates, so it's popularity would be dropping off anyway.
@Luck3yv2 ай бұрын
I love watching people who probably play kazuya in tekken religiously probably thinking "finally, my time has come" as they pick him in comp tournaments
@DetoxSSB2 ай бұрын
Absolute f***ing tune playing in the background 👌🏻🔥
@Gatorboy56782 ай бұрын
Me who uses Smash Stick: Ah yes, very helpful.
@startic75162 ай бұрын
It’s the other way around, Riddles got top 8 in 3 SF6 majors recently, can’t name any FGC player that could do that in Smash
@kye4216Ай бұрын
There is just very little crossover but if a top player from either group tries the other game seriously then they will probably do well.
@citrusblast437218 күн бұрын
@@kye4216it reminds of the fact that the old world has an easier time establishing themselves in the new world than it is for a new worlder to establish themselves in the old world. When was the last time you saw a cherokee or mayan man in germany? You havent cuz they are stuck in their world
@Defaultnoobisme2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure i struggle with the first step lol
@deathshands10042 ай бұрын
Ewww who plays with the joystick
@zacharywidmoyer49542 ай бұрын
Smash is fundamentally different from other games in the FGC. It can be argued that people who play traditional fighters cannot transition to smash either.
@AGuyOnTheInternet5622 ай бұрын
im totally not going to buy a controller just to get better at my main
@rolando90233 ай бұрын
Every time I see Kazuya crouch dash I hear car engines revving
@ltigre863 ай бұрын
this not true leffen a prime example
@megakazuya1233 ай бұрын
Smash is not a fighting game and was specifically designed to be antithetical to fighting games; *Sakurai himself has repeatedly said this for over a decade.* Smash is a *PARTY-GAME* with loosely based fighting mechanics. It is designed so that people who are *NOT* good at fighting games or children can pick up the game and play. Smash is *NOT* designed to operate as a fighting game, the characters and stages are *NOT* balanced or designed to pit people in 1v1 matches. The purpose of items and stage mechanics are to mitigate the clearly unbalanced character designs. Smash was fully intended to be played for fun and with items. What happened is that adults picked up the game (because of its nastolgic appeal), changed the rules to remove the items and other balancing mechanics and made this "the standard"; which drove out the intended audience. Smash players are some of the most unskilled gamers in the world and 70% are only good at smash games. Btw, Sakurai himself has spoken out against the "competitive" smash community because they hurt the game's appeal. Children and normie adults do not enjoy smash online because of all the people creating lobbies to intentionally troll or disadvantage players. I am a person who is reasonably good at smash and have been playing since the 64. I basically never play randoms online because trolling is the object of the game and they are rewarded for it.
@bredfigure29023 ай бұрын
Yes, Ban Samus, Cloud as well.
@PrinceKoopa.3 ай бұрын
Only time I should be seeing this character is when I’m playing Minecraft BAN HIM
@oscar10123 ай бұрын
Um, no I'm not?
@TreyMM-qz4wg3 ай бұрын
And that's not even TALKING about the JP players theyd run your shit on their free time
@TreyMM-qz4wg3 ай бұрын
Fireball game community players are a stranded child on a Senegal alien island with cannibal tribes in smash. Meanwhile we run shit with riddles, leffen, dabuz. And coney just proved gow easy tekken is, getting purple in 2 weeks 😂
@TreyMM-qz4wg3 ай бұрын
Turns out we are not? Lol anti, dabuz, leffen, riddles, coney, void and a lot more. We are better than scrub fighter 6 players thats for sure. Im master with Dhalsim as well. Baby mode DR game
@my_pp_is_smolnuke_africa49203 ай бұрын
it is weird that the video is called this way. Speaking from my own experience, mainly smash (melee) players do a better job in modern fighting games than the other way around. I don't know about modern smash titles. but for ssbm players, maybe it is just the dedication to lab and execution. Maybe it is a bit unfair tho because melee players are playing for 10 years +, the unusual controller, the multiplied amount of defensive options in this game compared to pretty much any modern fighting game, that the game is still played and came out before devs decided to dumb everything down in modern (fighting?) games. It is a miracle that this game is unkillable
@crimm24653 ай бұрын
What is killing Ultimate? Same thing that killed Brawl and 4. Melee.
@robertolarraga95914 ай бұрын
I've been trying traditional fighting games lately and from someone coming out of playing smash daily it was so frustrating I caught myself mashing and pushing myself to the corner and all of these bad habits just made it worst, I've learnt to be more patient and more focused on the buttons I press and this has translated beautifully into my smash gameplay I stared with SF6 a few weeks ago I'm still dropping combos but at least I'm making my way up into the rank currently about to hit gold and going up just grinding and practicing great video!
Пікірлер
"Upcoming golden age of fighting games" Oof...
and you that with one single Joycon!! D:
I can't even hit that stun thingy properly to start it, I keep sending them flying with a purple electric punch 💀
Person 1 & 2: Rock, paper, scissor- Person 2: Ferps tech Person 1: Wait that's not- _it's free real estate_
Motion input scary
I first started in smash and now play tekken. i havent touched smash in what seems years, and it feels like i would play better in it than i did before
Ive never heard of smashers being bad at traditional fighters, maybe ultimate players because there game is brain dead, but melee players? There freaks of nature, my boi is a long time melee player and no joke he can pick up a game almost immediately. We were playing marvel 2 and like, two days in he was doing msp tod's, he said and i quote "this games kinda slow and easy" to fucking MARVEL 2 lol. Melee is the most complex game ever made.
Except for Leffen, he's pretty good
It'd crazy that I want that black Training stage background rn
Bro is doing this on Joycon 😭 but as of right now I have to used the joycons so this gonna give me some respect points😂
MUI goku from DBFZ and kazuya are kind of the same with projectiles
celeste reference
Cool
My brain not comprehend
what's tech chasing?
Police!!!
whenever i do the stun input its almost always the regular version without the stun and tips on how to improve that
congrats for doing that on a single joycon
Idk man I didnt really have this problem, I got good at fighting games pretty quick coming from Smash
This video is a generalization of the topic, and it's extremely common. You're missing the point.
@@OrenMystery I dont really think I missed the point. He is saying that Smash players have a hard time translating their skill into fighting games. I have played Smash in tourney long enough to know that A LOT of tournament level Smash players have 0 skill, and plenty of characters in Smash dont teach any fundies. Its not that they cant translate the skill, they just dont have it. Every Smash player Ive known who was actually good at Smash and went on to play a fighting game got good at that without any kind of struggle. A guy from my region who was low PR in Smash went on to get 2nd at a major in GBVS. Another guy from my region who was Unranked (but good) in Smash Top 8’d a major in Strive. I dont think anyone knew that either of these guys were Smash players so it went under the radar, but their skill didnt just translate, they got way better at the fighting game than they were at Smash. If you understand fighting game concepts, getting good at a new game is just about gaining knowledge of the game and how those concepts apply to it. So long as you have the foundation, this is very intuitive by simply playing the game. The average smash player does not have the foundation Im afraid.
@@Yvs8962 That's... you know I have to agree with you. I can't really disagree with anything.
Yeah it wasn’t too different for me either. TFG just feel more like a turn based rpg, where responses need to be exact and positioning/movement is more committal. Just gotta slow down.
I DID NOT KNOW THIS
How do you crouch jab after cdc? I allways get crouch spin kick :T
Started off with a clip of him getting shit on by riddles...
People in the comments acting like you can't be a Smash player AND a fighting game player, and that Smash isn't a fighting party game that can be customized to be more of a fighting game or party game. Smash Ultimate literally has a mode inspired by KOF, as well as a KOF stage that would transition perfectly into a fighter. You can play in stamina mode which works like traditional fighting game health bars, toggle what are essentially super meters, and, iirc you can adjust the gravity in your matches, though I might be wrong on that one. You can also add rounds like in fighting games (rounds are separate from stocks, so you can change it to be one stock per round if you want to be more authentic to the feel of a traditional fighter), and adjust the clock.
Problem is it always dragon uppercuts for me
dude if we are counting these games as fighting games so is fucking naruto storm or whatever that shit is called... like lets be real for a second. termanology is different, the way recovery works is different, oki literally doesnt exist... these are not fighting games they are their own thing which isnt bad but its not a fighting game
DUDE IF NO ONE IS GONNA SAY IT I WILL HOW DOES HE DO THIS ON A JOYSTICK?!!!
Anyone wondering what the blue line is: it shows up on the opponent when they are hit showing which direction they are holding for a short time.
my standpoint is that if YOU don't like playing against a character, YOU play a different game. Let the people who like playing as/against these characters do so, especially since ultimate isn't getting any more updates, so it's popularity would be dropping off anyway.
I love watching people who probably play kazuya in tekken religiously probably thinking "finally, my time has come" as they pick him in comp tournaments
Absolute f***ing tune playing in the background 👌🏻🔥
Me who uses Smash Stick: Ah yes, very helpful.
It’s the other way around, Riddles got top 8 in 3 SF6 majors recently, can’t name any FGC player that could do that in Smash
There is just very little crossover but if a top player from either group tries the other game seriously then they will probably do well.
@@kye4216it reminds of the fact that the old world has an easier time establishing themselves in the new world than it is for a new worlder to establish themselves in the old world. When was the last time you saw a cherokee or mayan man in germany? You havent cuz they are stuck in their world
I’m pretty sure i struggle with the first step lol
Ewww who plays with the joystick
Smash is fundamentally different from other games in the FGC. It can be argued that people who play traditional fighters cannot transition to smash either.
im totally not going to buy a controller just to get better at my main
Every time I see Kazuya crouch dash I hear car engines revving
this not true leffen a prime example
Smash is not a fighting game and was specifically designed to be antithetical to fighting games; *Sakurai himself has repeatedly said this for over a decade.* Smash is a *PARTY-GAME* with loosely based fighting mechanics. It is designed so that people who are *NOT* good at fighting games or children can pick up the game and play. Smash is *NOT* designed to operate as a fighting game, the characters and stages are *NOT* balanced or designed to pit people in 1v1 matches. The purpose of items and stage mechanics are to mitigate the clearly unbalanced character designs. Smash was fully intended to be played for fun and with items. What happened is that adults picked up the game (because of its nastolgic appeal), changed the rules to remove the items and other balancing mechanics and made this "the standard"; which drove out the intended audience. Smash players are some of the most unskilled gamers in the world and 70% are only good at smash games. Btw, Sakurai himself has spoken out against the "competitive" smash community because they hurt the game's appeal. Children and normie adults do not enjoy smash online because of all the people creating lobbies to intentionally troll or disadvantage players. I am a person who is reasonably good at smash and have been playing since the 64. I basically never play randoms online because trolling is the object of the game and they are rewarded for it.
Yes, Ban Samus, Cloud as well.
Only time I should be seeing this character is when I’m playing Minecraft BAN HIM
Um, no I'm not?
And that's not even TALKING about the JP players theyd run your shit on their free time
Fireball game community players are a stranded child on a Senegal alien island with cannibal tribes in smash. Meanwhile we run shit with riddles, leffen, dabuz. And coney just proved gow easy tekken is, getting purple in 2 weeks 😂
Turns out we are not? Lol anti, dabuz, leffen, riddles, coney, void and a lot more. We are better than scrub fighter 6 players thats for sure. Im master with Dhalsim as well. Baby mode DR game
it is weird that the video is called this way. Speaking from my own experience, mainly smash (melee) players do a better job in modern fighting games than the other way around. I don't know about modern smash titles. but for ssbm players, maybe it is just the dedication to lab and execution. Maybe it is a bit unfair tho because melee players are playing for 10 years +, the unusual controller, the multiplied amount of defensive options in this game compared to pretty much any modern fighting game, that the game is still played and came out before devs decided to dumb everything down in modern (fighting?) games. It is a miracle that this game is unkillable
What is killing Ultimate? Same thing that killed Brawl and 4. Melee.
I've been trying traditional fighting games lately and from someone coming out of playing smash daily it was so frustrating I caught myself mashing and pushing myself to the corner and all of these bad habits just made it worst, I've learnt to be more patient and more focused on the buttons I press and this has translated beautifully into my smash gameplay I stared with SF6 a few weeks ago I'm still dropping combos but at least I'm making my way up into the rank currently about to hit gold and going up just grinding and practicing great video!
Reflector?