How I'd change the rules: hide "pledges" throughout the castle and challenges that are items like shields, but they let players volunteer to become traitors. Traitors can only recruit players who've pledged, and a pledge gets tapped automatically if they run out of traitors before the ring of fire. This removes the pressure on unwanted recruits for both traitors and faithfuls while giving faithfuls more deductive power to figure out who the new recruits could be. (Who do they think found pledges and used them?) It also gives pledges and current traitors reasons to team up or oppose each other in interesting ways. They'll never do it, but it would add a lot of intrigue!
@geoffingoff11 сағат бұрын
It's correct that when there's one traitor left, you have to accept a blackmail or you're murdered. This is to discourage turning it down so we don't run out of traitors. Generally if it's turned down, they move on to another blackmail meaning hypothetically a bunch of players could get murdered in one night if they all turn it down. So it's not a perfect system. However in international versions they've never had to repick new traitors at random except in one season where a traitor broke the rules and just told everyone who their fellow traitors were.
@vncntd3962Күн бұрын
It wasn't an "unanimous" decision to vote out Jane. Donna voted for Noel and Noel voted for Molly. Noel also voted twice for Molly the week that Jackie went out. Noel might not be a traitor but he is not a very good faithful either. I've liked him in the past but I couldn't quite believe the rationale he used at the round table for why he didn't think Jane was a traitor: he basically said Jane was a rational player and hence could not be a traitor. This makes zero sense. If I was in the game, I'd suspect Noel not because of the death row nonsense but because he has a poor track record of either voting for traitors or targeting them.
@pytube777Күн бұрын
Why would they decline to be a traitor? They came to win the money. Of all the shows, Mark is the first faithful to ever decline and gone home. He should’ve stayed and went for the money.
@vncntd3962Күн бұрын
Mark declined because he rightfully understood that he was being set up for a fall. Could he have accepted the offer and tried to find a way to sabotage Jane? Yes, sure. That could have been fun to watch. But his chances of making it to the end, with or without Jane, were extremely small. (If Mark somehow made it to the fire pit finale do you really think the other players standing there would opt to end the banishments, convinced that Mark was a faithful?) I personally like that Mark - the ultimate game bot - decided that the best way for him to play his hand was to fold.
@zactacon2 күн бұрын
What mark said was his suspicions of Mike to Stephen and Jane and one of the 2 leaked it and since Stephen was faithful it was likely Jane.
@vncntd3962Күн бұрын
That's right. The way Alex describe it made no sense (sorry, Alex!) whereas there was a rationale for Mark's argument - better anyway than the ones most players have used on the show. I'm looking at you, Donna.
@zactacon3 күн бұрын
Used my VPN at 1am to watch both episodes, they were amazing!
@cjcookenz4 күн бұрын
Hello boys. As always, loving the show. Yes, Traitors NZ is truly turning out to be the best of the franchise. As this season is of particular interest to me as it's filmed outside my hometown of Timaru. Timaru, Timaru, you're thinking. That sounds familiar. Yes, we also produced Aubrey Haive (worst drag name ever) who was in Season 2 of Drag Race Down Under. The 'manor' is Claremont Castle - which is currently for sale, so put aside those silver bars and it could be yours (see link below). And yes, Mount Horrible is the actual name. This is the country that also has Mount Bitterness, Mistake River and Mount Dreadful, so not so surprising. Timaru was also the location of the famous Thomas Hall poison murder case in the 1880s and Timaru Boy's High School is home to the 'Hitler Oak' which was gifted to a local Olympic runner at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. So that's that. Worth a visit! www.realestate.co.nz/42469286/residential/sale/222-mt-horrible-road-timaru-central And from your favourite news source The Spinoff: thespinoff.co.nz/society/04-11-2017/poisoner-the-story-of-thomas-hall Keep up the good work.
@tententagidim5 күн бұрын
I really love it when Traitors squabble amongst themselves. Need them to recruit another girl because we don't want another repeat of the all-male Traitors lineup. Question is which one? Love from Philippines 🩷
@vncntd39625 күн бұрын
I agree that the logic that Mike used to throw suspicion on Whitney was faulty, since lying about one's profession does not make someone a traitor. This alone would not have been enough to sink Whitney's boat. What did this, I think, was Brittany adding her own suspicions about Whitney on top of Mike's, alongside Whitney's poor rationale for why she thought Brittany was a traitor in the first place and her flustered responses at the round table in this episode. Although I wasn't necessarily expecting Whitney to go in episode five, I'm not surprised she was unmasked as a traitor: she was getting a lot of airtime, which suggested to me that she was going sooner than later (especially since her confident predictions during her confessionals were shown to be misplaced: the week she said that Brittany would get banished was the week Jackie went home). I predict that Jane will last longest of the three original traitors, but as long as Ben remains in the game her chances of winning are slim (since he thinks she is a traitor) unless she recruits Ben to the dark side - in which case I could see the two of them winning together. I'm not concerned about the fact that Ben has been getting little airtime in the last episode or two (and episode 6). This suggests to me he will probably make a deep run.
@slinkyboo-boo12 күн бұрын
I love you guys... but I don't know what you are taking about. Can't watch Traitors here.
@moonlike196 күн бұрын
Same
@sheenalawson12 күн бұрын
What’s happened is right! I was asking myself the same thing. I FF through colon flushing and now banging spiders
@MarkBishop-p3k13 күн бұрын
Love this!
@DrDeb200514 күн бұрын
I very much prefer having video 🙂 Y'all are awesome! Q: What am I missing here? Do you understand what the traitor's motivation is to murder one of the two who did the digging? Wouldn't they be in a more advantageous position murdering someone not being suspected? Seems to be they're losing out on an additional free roundtable (one gets banished --> is a faithful -->. The one remaining must be the traitor so gets banished next.). And a comment I thought may interest y'all: I happened upon a 25d old reddit page where Whitney was announcing the cast had dropped and a couple other cast members commented. Andrew said that he was surprised to find that no-one in the cast knew each other as that was rare for NZ. Assuming he is being 100% truthful, Molly and Noel may not be connected after all. Great theory though!
@DrDeb200514 күн бұрын
Oh nevermind on my question... I just realized the murder was baked into the task. Knew I must be missing something lol
@DrDeb200518 күн бұрын
Nice to see y'all back! This is gonna be completely from left field, but I, too, was struggling to understand why someone would "hide" their first name. This just came to me as I watched y'all discussing it: could someone perhaps be transgender??
@moonlike1920 күн бұрын
Welcome back
@amorgan19342 ай бұрын
love you guys. not sure why i need video. the podcast is working.personally i'd focus on radio.
@Alicetheamethyst3 ай бұрын
Where r u guys
@BAM_Productions2 ай бұрын
We are taking a bit of a rest. Not sure what the future of Comment Below is. Maybe a bit of a change, we are unsure!
@Alicetheamethyst2 ай бұрын
@@BAM_Productions take care and have a good rest xx
@JamesJones-uu7ou3 ай бұрын
In this house we stan Brodie
@hernandorourk51864 ай бұрын
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@jessd41604 ай бұрын
With this US series, I have realized that this show is so much better when the faithfuls can't figure out who the traitors are. There was no suspense at all. All of the traitors were found out really easily. Another reason why the UK series is superior. Even with US series 1, the person who won came to a shock to the other contestants. I think the all reality version also ruins it. The forming of alliances based on what network you are on takes all of the fun out of it. These US reality stars are too dependent on what they think is gameplay such that they are actually all terrible at gameplay.
@user-pz7uu6im9t4 ай бұрын
You've had takes in previous episodes that were questionnable to say the least, but wow - this episode had a lot of awful takes in it. It's almost as if the viewing public and you two were watching completely shows.
@Gailsy4 ай бұрын
Also, Trichelle (sp?) has been a terrible game player. She knows who the Traitor is but not how to get them out. First you need to count your votes!
@Gailsy4 ай бұрын
I have also been annoyed by Sandra’s lack of game play, but what if it’s actually the best way to win as a Faithful? Make sure you have the Traitor(s) in your group, get your group to the end, then vote them out?!
@classicmiriam4 ай бұрын
You keep saying that Alliances don’t work on the show. But it’s not really true. You need people faithful to you to stay in. Plus it’s best to figure out who a traitor is before others and become their best friend. Then cut them at the end. That way they will protect you from murder. Incidentally apparently Sandra watched every English speaking version of the show in order to prepare. Plus she’s perceptive. So she knows the optimal strategy if you are a faithful.
@Gailsy4 ай бұрын
Kate is not a housewife. She was on Below Deck and she has a Bravo review show called Couch Talk with Captain Lee
@Gailsy4 ай бұрын
I love Kate! She’s the only funny one on either season. We even went back to her seasons on Below Deck to watch her there. You can’t have an entire cast of eager beavers, if you’re doing a celebrity cast. I’m here for the snark
@jessd41604 ай бұрын
Also, rumor is is that Peter and Ekin Su were flirting heavily during the filming of the show and they are now dating. There's pictures of her with Pete's mom that just came out this week (Bachelor watchers will know that Pete is very close to his mom, so if his mom has met her they are probably dating)
@zactacon4 ай бұрын
We’ll see at the reunion! It really makes me wonder how different the season would’ve gone if Ekin was alive as she would’ve probably been another number for the Peter pals
@jessd41604 ай бұрын
@@zactaconAbsolutely. I love Ekin Su (I'm a big LI UK fan) so I was sad to see her go so early. The Peter romance rumors are strong though. I wonder if they will admit to it. I'm happy she's free from terrible Davide.
@jessd41604 ай бұрын
I think Kate should recruit Sandra. Then, she can get Sandra banished at the round table. Once Sandra is banished as a Traitor, I think they will all think that all Traitors are gone, then Kate wins. I know you don't want Kate to win, but that would be her smartest move in my opinion.
@zactacon4 ай бұрын
There’s no way that there’ll be a recruit
@jessd41604 ай бұрын
@@zactacon I hope you are correct. I hate these last minute recruits. It makes it impossible for Faithfuls to win.
@zactacon4 ай бұрын
@@jessd4160 I don’t think they would let her recruit but in all seasons I have watched, there have been no traitor meetings the night before the finale so idk but they need to murder to get it to the final 5 and another blackmail would feel like too much
@jessd41604 ай бұрын
@@zactacon I need to refresh my memory, but in Australia Season 1 they recruited the last Traitor VERY late. Not right before the final, but close. It annoyed me. I'm so hoping they do not force Kate to recruit
@zactacon4 ай бұрын
@@jessd4160 that was in the last traitor meeting so the night before the penultimate episode which happened in 2 other seasons.
@maisymew88495 ай бұрын
I know I am months behind.
@maisymew88495 ай бұрын
Maybe the 2 of you swing dancing?
@shelleyobrien81805 ай бұрын
Hello from Springfield Missouri USA. Just discovered your channel and gonna watch everyone of your reviews. I love John
@GerryMulvenna5 ай бұрын
I hope Alex can persuade Ben to overcome his lack of enthusiasm for this series. We understand his annoyance at the way Kate was imposed on a second series, but we HAVE had fabulous ground-breaking gameplay with these contestants and that should be celebrated and dissected much more please. And don't forget the limericks! Peter's misinformation ruse about Bergie's shield was really impressive and drove the banishment narrative for the middle episodes. Arguably it outranks the shield-related gameplay in UK season 2 because it is much harder for a faithful to carry if off since they are much more in the dark than the traitors. You both did laud the innovative use of props for strategy planning from both Sandra and the snooker balls and CT and his slate. I also did actually enjoy Kate's pieces to camera after being made a traitor - at least she was being pretty open and showing her vulnerability while also having a pop at Phaedra for not having a plan and turning into a crap traitor all of a sudden. Mind you, Ben's theory that Kate has been a super-bad influence on Phaedra is an appealing one. So rediscover your enthusiasm Ben and read out more comments you've been sent please and don't overlook the limericks! Thanks for all the shows.
@geoffingoff5 ай бұрын
John actually got the shield, not CT. CT almost did though!
@GerryMulvenna5 ай бұрын
I was thinking that myself - although during his big speech at the round table, John mentioned that he would probably not survive the night. So we all can be forgiven for the confusion 😸
@zactacon4 ай бұрын
@@GerryMulvennano CT 100% got it.
@zactacon5 ай бұрын
The recruit and murder in the same night has happened in aus s1, nz s1 and uk s1 so I don’t think you can blame producers. It seems to be a rule that if 1 traitor recruits they then murder as that’s what happened and with one exception in the ca s1
@tgriffin395 ай бұрын
They’re all paid
@tgriffin395 ай бұрын
Kate is a housewife as well
@jessd41605 ай бұрын
Hey guys! I love your love for Bergie. Also, here in the US, people are going crazy over thinking about a possible love story with CT and Phaedra. At the roundtable he said "I am not here for love, I am here to find Traitors" (in regards to Phaedra) which means he though about love! He also said " I couldn't banish someone who lit my torch." We are all being silly, but we love thinking about a love connection there.
@zactacon5 ай бұрын
The Bergie cruise also has Sandra and Janelle from this season and a bunch from US S1
@phoenixrising82315 ай бұрын
They are being paid. Janelle said it was alot. The players come from different networks. If you're on tv, you get paid.
@miquel_en_route5 ай бұрын
😂 the Bergilicious photo 😝 Great to hear about Diane, I’ll check celebrity masterchef then
@GerryMulvenna5 ай бұрын
I'm more than a wee bit worried about Bergie as a possible murder victim. Prayers and thoughts..... Here's the limerick I sent in last week There was a young faithful called Bergie Playing Traitors chez Alan and Fergie Though quiet at first He showed talent in bursts And brought healing to Alex's lurgy
@blurp3235 ай бұрын
1) Has it ever been stated that players with shields are immune not only from murder, but also from recruitment? 2) Sheree’s name rhymes with “away.” 3) I think we can logically assume Alex’s substantial beard would qualify him as the “wolf” and Ben clearly fits the gay definition of the “bear.” 4) THANK YOU for going back to calling the bird site “twitter.” I’d been finding it just a tad irksome that you’d been buying into Musk’s “X” foolishness!
@mollieroque53235 ай бұрын
I only just found you, so I am a week late! But here ya go! There once was a faithful named Kate And every task made her irate Then she found fun and she almost won will she be back to repeat her fate? There once was a boy named Bergie Who had the same color hair as Fergie (The Singer) He could follow the light and put up a fight I bet he'd be real good at a burpee
@miquel_en_route5 ай бұрын
No mention of Lala and her cute tartan outfit guys! We need a Lala-alert =)
@jarwong39915 ай бұрын
just started listening to the podcast on spotify! thanks for the recap, very entertaining. did not expect a cute wolf and bear behind the sexy accents too.
@GerryMulvenna5 ай бұрын
That was pretty exciting game-play in this episode. Unprecedented having a murder foiled by a shield - is that right? I'm very pleased Dan is gone - his conceited pieces to camera were really grinding by the end. Always talking about how great he is on Big Brother and how he was going to "start playing" soon. His daft attempted murder could potentially doom all 3 of the current traitors, which will be interesting in itself to see how a whole new bunch of traitors adapt in their wake.
@user-pz7uu6im9t5 ай бұрын
It's interesting that you say that the US is a big genre on TV while reality TV is a footnote in the UK, because I've always perceived it to be the opposite. Reality TV shows like Bake Off, I'm a Celebrity, and Strictly Come Dancing, are some of the top watched and talked about shows in the UK. Reality TV in the US is much more meant for niche audiences and doesn't nearly get the viewership that they do in the UK. Shows like The Challenge, The Kardashians, and The Real Housewives caters very well to their audiences, but doesn't interest the larger population as a whole- Survivor and American Idol did 15-20 years ago but hasn't in years. The Traitors in the UK is airs on the free-to-air BBC and it was in the newspapers, cast members were on breakfast shows, etc. In the US, The Traitors is on Peacock, a paid streaming service that isn't even the most popular streaming serviec. If you wanted to hear about The Traitors in the US, you would probably have to go online and search for it. I don't think many people in my social circle have even heard of The Traitors. I think maybe you perceive it to be that way because niche audiences are really passionate, so they go social media to discuss it and it gets spread.
@user-pz7uu6im9t5 ай бұрын
My guess is they brought in Kate because Deontay left unexpectedly, so they needed to add an extra player to stay on production schedule. I wouldn't be surprised (I'm actually almost expecting) Sandra lays low in the next few episodes and then is a central player in the final 2-3 episodes. It's the way she played Survivor. But you're right- Sandra wasn't good at challenges on Survivor and tried to avoid them. Contrast that to Parvati, her Survivor rival, who was amazing at challenges and won several of them. To me, it really highlights how useless challenges are on competition reality TV shows - it's mostly used to fill screen time.
@jessd41605 ай бұрын
Dan felt Phaedra was a threat to him. That she's too well liked and too smart. He had said in a prior episode he wanted her out. Also, he has a bias against her because she isn't from a competition reality show. Parvati is. He sees Parvati as an equal and Phaedra as less than because her reality show isn't competition based.
@jessd41605 ай бұрын
Dan clearly doesn't watch the ATL HW's because he did not know who he was messing with. Phaedra is not one to trifle with. She will read you for filth. I loved it.
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How I'd change the rules: hide "pledges" throughout the castle and challenges that are items like shields, but they let players volunteer to become traitors. Traitors can only recruit players who've pledged, and a pledge gets tapped automatically if they run out of traitors before the ring of fire. This removes the pressure on unwanted recruits for both traitors and faithfuls while giving faithfuls more deductive power to figure out who the new recruits could be. (Who do they think found pledges and used them?) It also gives pledges and current traitors reasons to team up or oppose each other in interesting ways. They'll never do it, but it would add a lot of intrigue!
It's correct that when there's one traitor left, you have to accept a blackmail or you're murdered. This is to discourage turning it down so we don't run out of traitors. Generally if it's turned down, they move on to another blackmail meaning hypothetically a bunch of players could get murdered in one night if they all turn it down. So it's not a perfect system. However in international versions they've never had to repick new traitors at random except in one season where a traitor broke the rules and just told everyone who their fellow traitors were.
It wasn't an "unanimous" decision to vote out Jane. Donna voted for Noel and Noel voted for Molly. Noel also voted twice for Molly the week that Jackie went out. Noel might not be a traitor but he is not a very good faithful either. I've liked him in the past but I couldn't quite believe the rationale he used at the round table for why he didn't think Jane was a traitor: he basically said Jane was a rational player and hence could not be a traitor. This makes zero sense. If I was in the game, I'd suspect Noel not because of the death row nonsense but because he has a poor track record of either voting for traitors or targeting them.
Why would they decline to be a traitor? They came to win the money. Of all the shows, Mark is the first faithful to ever decline and gone home. He should’ve stayed and went for the money.
Mark declined because he rightfully understood that he was being set up for a fall. Could he have accepted the offer and tried to find a way to sabotage Jane? Yes, sure. That could have been fun to watch. But his chances of making it to the end, with or without Jane, were extremely small. (If Mark somehow made it to the fire pit finale do you really think the other players standing there would opt to end the banishments, convinced that Mark was a faithful?) I personally like that Mark - the ultimate game bot - decided that the best way for him to play his hand was to fold.
What mark said was his suspicions of Mike to Stephen and Jane and one of the 2 leaked it and since Stephen was faithful it was likely Jane.
That's right. The way Alex describe it made no sense (sorry, Alex!) whereas there was a rationale for Mark's argument - better anyway than the ones most players have used on the show. I'm looking at you, Donna.
Used my VPN at 1am to watch both episodes, they were amazing!
Hello boys. As always, loving the show. Yes, Traitors NZ is truly turning out to be the best of the franchise. As this season is of particular interest to me as it's filmed outside my hometown of Timaru. Timaru, Timaru, you're thinking. That sounds familiar. Yes, we also produced Aubrey Haive (worst drag name ever) who was in Season 2 of Drag Race Down Under. The 'manor' is Claremont Castle - which is currently for sale, so put aside those silver bars and it could be yours (see link below). And yes, Mount Horrible is the actual name. This is the country that also has Mount Bitterness, Mistake River and Mount Dreadful, so not so surprising. Timaru was also the location of the famous Thomas Hall poison murder case in the 1880s and Timaru Boy's High School is home to the 'Hitler Oak' which was gifted to a local Olympic runner at the 1936 Berlin Olympics. So that's that. Worth a visit! www.realestate.co.nz/42469286/residential/sale/222-mt-horrible-road-timaru-central And from your favourite news source The Spinoff: thespinoff.co.nz/society/04-11-2017/poisoner-the-story-of-thomas-hall Keep up the good work.
I really love it when Traitors squabble amongst themselves. Need them to recruit another girl because we don't want another repeat of the all-male Traitors lineup. Question is which one? Love from Philippines 🩷
I agree that the logic that Mike used to throw suspicion on Whitney was faulty, since lying about one's profession does not make someone a traitor. This alone would not have been enough to sink Whitney's boat. What did this, I think, was Brittany adding her own suspicions about Whitney on top of Mike's, alongside Whitney's poor rationale for why she thought Brittany was a traitor in the first place and her flustered responses at the round table in this episode. Although I wasn't necessarily expecting Whitney to go in episode five, I'm not surprised she was unmasked as a traitor: she was getting a lot of airtime, which suggested to me that she was going sooner than later (especially since her confident predictions during her confessionals were shown to be misplaced: the week she said that Brittany would get banished was the week Jackie went home). I predict that Jane will last longest of the three original traitors, but as long as Ben remains in the game her chances of winning are slim (since he thinks she is a traitor) unless she recruits Ben to the dark side - in which case I could see the two of them winning together. I'm not concerned about the fact that Ben has been getting little airtime in the last episode or two (and episode 6). This suggests to me he will probably make a deep run.
I love you guys... but I don't know what you are taking about. Can't watch Traitors here.
Same
What’s happened is right! I was asking myself the same thing. I FF through colon flushing and now banging spiders
Love this!
I very much prefer having video 🙂 Y'all are awesome! Q: What am I missing here? Do you understand what the traitor's motivation is to murder one of the two who did the digging? Wouldn't they be in a more advantageous position murdering someone not being suspected? Seems to be they're losing out on an additional free roundtable (one gets banished --> is a faithful -->. The one remaining must be the traitor so gets banished next.). And a comment I thought may interest y'all: I happened upon a 25d old reddit page where Whitney was announcing the cast had dropped and a couple other cast members commented. Andrew said that he was surprised to find that no-one in the cast knew each other as that was rare for NZ. Assuming he is being 100% truthful, Molly and Noel may not be connected after all. Great theory though!
Oh nevermind on my question... I just realized the murder was baked into the task. Knew I must be missing something lol
Nice to see y'all back! This is gonna be completely from left field, but I, too, was struggling to understand why someone would "hide" their first name. This just came to me as I watched y'all discussing it: could someone perhaps be transgender??
Welcome back
love you guys. not sure why i need video. the podcast is working.personally i'd focus on radio.
Where r u guys
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With this US series, I have realized that this show is so much better when the faithfuls can't figure out who the traitors are. There was no suspense at all. All of the traitors were found out really easily. Another reason why the UK series is superior. Even with US series 1, the person who won came to a shock to the other contestants. I think the all reality version also ruins it. The forming of alliances based on what network you are on takes all of the fun out of it. These US reality stars are too dependent on what they think is gameplay such that they are actually all terrible at gameplay.
You've had takes in previous episodes that were questionnable to say the least, but wow - this episode had a lot of awful takes in it. It's almost as if the viewing public and you two were watching completely shows.
Also, Trichelle (sp?) has been a terrible game player. She knows who the Traitor is but not how to get them out. First you need to count your votes!
I have also been annoyed by Sandra’s lack of game play, but what if it’s actually the best way to win as a Faithful? Make sure you have the Traitor(s) in your group, get your group to the end, then vote them out?!
You keep saying that Alliances don’t work on the show. But it’s not really true. You need people faithful to you to stay in. Plus it’s best to figure out who a traitor is before others and become their best friend. Then cut them at the end. That way they will protect you from murder. Incidentally apparently Sandra watched every English speaking version of the show in order to prepare. Plus she’s perceptive. So she knows the optimal strategy if you are a faithful.
Kate is not a housewife. She was on Below Deck and she has a Bravo review show called Couch Talk with Captain Lee
I love Kate! She’s the only funny one on either season. We even went back to her seasons on Below Deck to watch her there. You can’t have an entire cast of eager beavers, if you’re doing a celebrity cast. I’m here for the snark
Also, rumor is is that Peter and Ekin Su were flirting heavily during the filming of the show and they are now dating. There's pictures of her with Pete's mom that just came out this week (Bachelor watchers will know that Pete is very close to his mom, so if his mom has met her they are probably dating)
We’ll see at the reunion! It really makes me wonder how different the season would’ve gone if Ekin was alive as she would’ve probably been another number for the Peter pals
@@zactaconAbsolutely. I love Ekin Su (I'm a big LI UK fan) so I was sad to see her go so early. The Peter romance rumors are strong though. I wonder if they will admit to it. I'm happy she's free from terrible Davide.
I think Kate should recruit Sandra. Then, she can get Sandra banished at the round table. Once Sandra is banished as a Traitor, I think they will all think that all Traitors are gone, then Kate wins. I know you don't want Kate to win, but that would be her smartest move in my opinion.
There’s no way that there’ll be a recruit
@@zactacon I hope you are correct. I hate these last minute recruits. It makes it impossible for Faithfuls to win.
@@jessd4160 I don’t think they would let her recruit but in all seasons I have watched, there have been no traitor meetings the night before the finale so idk but they need to murder to get it to the final 5 and another blackmail would feel like too much
@@zactacon I need to refresh my memory, but in Australia Season 1 they recruited the last Traitor VERY late. Not right before the final, but close. It annoyed me. I'm so hoping they do not force Kate to recruit
@@jessd4160 that was in the last traitor meeting so the night before the penultimate episode which happened in 2 other seasons.
I know I am months behind.
Maybe the 2 of you swing dancing?
Hello from Springfield Missouri USA. Just discovered your channel and gonna watch everyone of your reviews. I love John
I hope Alex can persuade Ben to overcome his lack of enthusiasm for this series. We understand his annoyance at the way Kate was imposed on a second series, but we HAVE had fabulous ground-breaking gameplay with these contestants and that should be celebrated and dissected much more please. And don't forget the limericks! Peter's misinformation ruse about Bergie's shield was really impressive and drove the banishment narrative for the middle episodes. Arguably it outranks the shield-related gameplay in UK season 2 because it is much harder for a faithful to carry if off since they are much more in the dark than the traitors. You both did laud the innovative use of props for strategy planning from both Sandra and the snooker balls and CT and his slate. I also did actually enjoy Kate's pieces to camera after being made a traitor - at least she was being pretty open and showing her vulnerability while also having a pop at Phaedra for not having a plan and turning into a crap traitor all of a sudden. Mind you, Ben's theory that Kate has been a super-bad influence on Phaedra is an appealing one. So rediscover your enthusiasm Ben and read out more comments you've been sent please and don't overlook the limericks! Thanks for all the shows.
John actually got the shield, not CT. CT almost did though!
I was thinking that myself - although during his big speech at the round table, John mentioned that he would probably not survive the night. So we all can be forgiven for the confusion 😸
@@GerryMulvennano CT 100% got it.
The recruit and murder in the same night has happened in aus s1, nz s1 and uk s1 so I don’t think you can blame producers. It seems to be a rule that if 1 traitor recruits they then murder as that’s what happened and with one exception in the ca s1
They’re all paid
Kate is a housewife as well
Hey guys! I love your love for Bergie. Also, here in the US, people are going crazy over thinking about a possible love story with CT and Phaedra. At the roundtable he said "I am not here for love, I am here to find Traitors" (in regards to Phaedra) which means he though about love! He also said " I couldn't banish someone who lit my torch." We are all being silly, but we love thinking about a love connection there.
The Bergie cruise also has Sandra and Janelle from this season and a bunch from US S1
They are being paid. Janelle said it was alot. The players come from different networks. If you're on tv, you get paid.
😂 the Bergilicious photo 😝 Great to hear about Diane, I’ll check celebrity masterchef then
I'm more than a wee bit worried about Bergie as a possible murder victim. Prayers and thoughts..... Here's the limerick I sent in last week There was a young faithful called Bergie Playing Traitors chez Alan and Fergie Though quiet at first He showed talent in bursts And brought healing to Alex's lurgy
1) Has it ever been stated that players with shields are immune not only from murder, but also from recruitment? 2) Sheree’s name rhymes with “away.” 3) I think we can logically assume Alex’s substantial beard would qualify him as the “wolf” and Ben clearly fits the gay definition of the “bear.” 4) THANK YOU for going back to calling the bird site “twitter.” I’d been finding it just a tad irksome that you’d been buying into Musk’s “X” foolishness!
I only just found you, so I am a week late! But here ya go! There once was a faithful named Kate And every task made her irate Then she found fun and she almost won will she be back to repeat her fate? There once was a boy named Bergie Who had the same color hair as Fergie (The Singer) He could follow the light and put up a fight I bet he'd be real good at a burpee
No mention of Lala and her cute tartan outfit guys! We need a Lala-alert =)
just started listening to the podcast on spotify! thanks for the recap, very entertaining. did not expect a cute wolf and bear behind the sexy accents too.
That was pretty exciting game-play in this episode. Unprecedented having a murder foiled by a shield - is that right? I'm very pleased Dan is gone - his conceited pieces to camera were really grinding by the end. Always talking about how great he is on Big Brother and how he was going to "start playing" soon. His daft attempted murder could potentially doom all 3 of the current traitors, which will be interesting in itself to see how a whole new bunch of traitors adapt in their wake.
It's interesting that you say that the US is a big genre on TV while reality TV is a footnote in the UK, because I've always perceived it to be the opposite. Reality TV shows like Bake Off, I'm a Celebrity, and Strictly Come Dancing, are some of the top watched and talked about shows in the UK. Reality TV in the US is much more meant for niche audiences and doesn't nearly get the viewership that they do in the UK. Shows like The Challenge, The Kardashians, and The Real Housewives caters very well to their audiences, but doesn't interest the larger population as a whole- Survivor and American Idol did 15-20 years ago but hasn't in years. The Traitors in the UK is airs on the free-to-air BBC and it was in the newspapers, cast members were on breakfast shows, etc. In the US, The Traitors is on Peacock, a paid streaming service that isn't even the most popular streaming serviec. If you wanted to hear about The Traitors in the US, you would probably have to go online and search for it. I don't think many people in my social circle have even heard of The Traitors. I think maybe you perceive it to be that way because niche audiences are really passionate, so they go social media to discuss it and it gets spread.
My guess is they brought in Kate because Deontay left unexpectedly, so they needed to add an extra player to stay on production schedule. I wouldn't be surprised (I'm actually almost expecting) Sandra lays low in the next few episodes and then is a central player in the final 2-3 episodes. It's the way she played Survivor. But you're right- Sandra wasn't good at challenges on Survivor and tried to avoid them. Contrast that to Parvati, her Survivor rival, who was amazing at challenges and won several of them. To me, it really highlights how useless challenges are on competition reality TV shows - it's mostly used to fill screen time.
Dan felt Phaedra was a threat to him. That she's too well liked and too smart. He had said in a prior episode he wanted her out. Also, he has a bias against her because she isn't from a competition reality show. Parvati is. He sees Parvati as an equal and Phaedra as less than because her reality show isn't competition based.
Dan clearly doesn't watch the ATL HW's because he did not know who he was messing with. Phaedra is not one to trifle with. She will read you for filth. I loved it.