Spirit loop says enchant creature you control? Am I wrong
@nicksoapdish947827 күн бұрын
You are not wrong. Maybe he was thinking of Spirit Link?
@lechampion2349Ай бұрын
All you really gotta do is get infinite mana and just cast ur commander infinite times and boom kill everyone at the table lol u can blink ur dockside 🤷🏽♂️
@gormold4163Ай бұрын
I like the idea of using him as a fuel cell for sacrifice, and was considering using cards like feed the pack and deaths presence to do that. It also occurred to me that if you wanted to build with death triggers being a focus, putting the -1/-1 could be a solid move to instantly kill each time you cast.
@thefivews47202 ай бұрын
Why do people not like gurp hug
@referenceplz55472 ай бұрын
Hey! Very unique build! How did you like it? Thinking of trying your brew, would love to hear an update about your feeling on the deck! Thanks!
@NotANameist3 ай бұрын
Clever ideas!
@jonasdietz33814 ай бұрын
Very good job on the video. It took me a long time to figure Codie out. For me Codie is all about your curve. When you built Codie in a specific way, you almost always know which kind of effect you can expect from the top of your library. 1 and 2 Mana is spot removal (except your specific strategy), 3 and four Mana in my version is card draw or card selection (mostly on commands or charms to be very interactiv and always have the answer) and 5 mana and above is flashy stuff like brass bounty, boardwipes, mizzix's mastery, Approach, True Polymorph, Expansion/Explosion and Titanias Command. I really see the value and fun in those 0 Mana spells mentioned, but sadly they are all sorcery speed. For them to work in the right way you completely limit yourself to said speed. When I started brewing codie I had cards like Open the Gates in my deck and often faced the situation not being able to cast this 1 Mana spell due to its speed. That sucked. Now my deck starts with sorceries only in the 4 Mana and up slots, so I won't take myself out of the game. The most important ingredients in Codie are in my oppinion modular cards like Confounding Riddle. You got a good counterspell or card selection. With Codie in the Commandzone I never find myself screwed. One interesting thing to keep in mind for Codie are Split cards. For those cards the combined mana value of both spells counts for Codie so when you flip for example Expansion/Explosion it counts as a 6 Mana spell and most of the time doesn't count as Codies target. When you meet Codie and Zirda on Arena Brawl it is probably me. Peace out.
@Sbuswell4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video! So helpful. Quick question, when you flicker a saga, and it re-enters the battlefield, does it enter with any lore counters? And, if so, does that Chapter trigger immediacy?
@nathanpetrich73095 ай бұрын
What about Esika as your commander and filling up the deck with low cmc green legendaries to act as mana dorks?
@Asterothe915 ай бұрын
In some cases you could have sigardian zealots ability first to give your commander a boost first, THEN give counters from your commander making the creature that your commander targets that turn a lot bigger....or you could have your commander in turn also give sigardian zealot a big boost after him giving your commander a boost and he gives bigger boosts next turn too.
@BisyBackson3656 ай бұрын
One of the most in-depth and well researched deck tech I have ever seen.
@TheFreak2976 ай бұрын
Finally someone explained what a lore counter was and how you add them. I promise im trying to get better at reading mtg cards😂
@Mechsrule16 ай бұрын
I feel using X spells in a Svella deck is a mistake. After all, they're dead cards with her second ability.
@ctyhallcoolio8 ай бұрын
Thanks great vid
@teknyte-18 ай бұрын
Im here looking for deck tech for Toluz, Clever Conductor
@mrspiderhead87948 ай бұрын
5:30 in and I'm just like "The stack is _complicated_"
@AlluMan969 ай бұрын
Very helpful. I had recently made an Illuna, Apex of Wishes deck with a bunch of the godzilla-cards for a friend of mine, but the more I started to play it, the sadder I felt about having to give it up. I ended up really falling in love with the mutate mechanic, so I had to find a mutate-commander for myself and wanted it to be a Godzilla monster as sort of a rival-deck to Ghidorah. When I saw this card (As Rodan), I knew I loved the idea, but didn't know which direction I wanted to go with it. Usually EDHrec helps me figure out a general blueprint, but Vadrok specficially seemed to be really used as a low to the ground Super-Friends enabler and I wasn't too excited about that idea. Instead, I saw the potential of something like a storm-styled deck that just flooded value off of the Vadrok triggers, then turning said value into board presence and power with stuff like Young Pyromancer, Monatery Swiftspear, Guttersnipe, Ominous Roost and Sea, etc. This loop you've presented was just the kind of stuff I was looking for to make that dream a reality. I saw the potential of the bounce, but wasn't sure how I wouldn't run out of gas in that process, but this loop definitely works. A new piece of tech I actually do want to highlight for the cost-reductors is Hinata, Dawn-Crowned. It's a card in Jeskai colors that decreases the generic cost of spells for each target of the spell and increases accordingly for the opponent. It's also another example of why mutate is such a based mechanic, because there are so many small subtleties to how it works. Because mutate targets, Hinata works as an effective cost reductor for our spells, while taxing any opponent's interaction. Really cool tech. Also, Gandalf's Sanction is a hilarious way to cap a Vadrok-game. If you ever find yourself milling yourself out, just trigger Gandalf's Sanction for a trampling burn spell that scales off of instants and sorceries in the graveyard. Probably one of the funniest ways to ambush an opponent late game.
@daltongrady56439 ай бұрын
Steelshaper's Gift is the way to go. The card costs less than $1, so its great even if you have a low budget.
@solarupdraft9 ай бұрын
coming here to learn about sagas after the reveal of Huatli, Poet of Unity. Thanks for the video!
@midcoregamer76259 ай бұрын
Skullbriar's actual biggest weakness is bounce effects, especially with how popular Cyclonic Rift is. While you didn't explicitly mention it, sacrifice outlets can also be used to preserve his counters if the opponent(s) try to force him into a non-public knowledge area. Thanks, I've been trying to find a workaround for that specific interaction for a while.
@luisarturo38607 ай бұрын
-1/-1 counters 💀
@JIMBPRODUCTIONS7 ай бұрын
You can actually just send Skullbriar to the command zone any time he would switch zones, ie your hand or library. So you essentially can keep your counters indefinitely
@phillipcastle-hx6nw9 ай бұрын
Already have a svella and debated doing land destruction with her, so this was very helpful and thank you.
@Ic36On10 ай бұрын
The deck is pretty consistent - thanks for sharing. Are you planning a update to include tutors or anything else ?
@oliversealey97010 ай бұрын
the fact that this video was uploaded on the fourth of july, and the deck is red white and blue lmfao
@danielvanginkel708110 ай бұрын
Nice list. Chart a course is not an instant though.
@H47Ronin11 ай бұрын
I am in the middle of making a Kestia bestow/mutate clone tempo deck. Any removal leaves my with the other permanent and another clonable, mutatable target to start over with. This is even worse if I flicker its base bounce creature in response, turning it into a trap that taxes removal. Zur can use manifest enchantments to manifest hexproof mutate targets repeatedly. Used in conjunction with ninja bounce, your opponents will be traumatized just trying to figure out if the 2/2 mutant is actually a 8/8 with double strike or just a basic plains. Tatsunari, Toad Rider creates a creature in sultai that is worth mutate cloning, which is itself a win-con when it drains opponent's lives for enchantments being cast. Bonus: mutate Vadrak onto Feather to create a flexible combat trick deck that can also recur utility pieces. By using heroic creatures that trigger when you target them, things get even more spicy! 🥵
@rpolito7611 ай бұрын
Sad to see no new videos ... I loved your content ... not the typical straight from EDHREC decks and great explanations for card choices.
@mofomiko11 ай бұрын
Orvar + Land Copy is so out there and the perfect mixture of stupidity and Jank. Plus profane tutor pretty much frees up 19 slots for the deck
@mofomiko11 ай бұрын
I think there is way too little to none recursion for these hidden commanders. One Wipe or Spot-Removal and youre dead in the water, otherwise very cool Lists and Inspiriations - allthough the New Niv Mizzet Surpreme pretty much replaces the entire last list
@kaitlynstewart7672 Жыл бұрын
This was super helpful and in depth!
@RafaGonzalezGouveia Жыл бұрын
Great video! I like it because is not the typical group hug deck. Thanks
@chefboyardee2670 Жыл бұрын
Love this!
@wjjajshshdbdnnsndhbauhwhshs Жыл бұрын
i miss your content, man
@tj_bad_one Жыл бұрын
Great info 😊
@sczombie Жыл бұрын
hey I really appreciate that you compared Karazikar and Kardur because I have been really struggling to decide between the two. I haven't chosen 100% yet but I'm leaning more Karazikar.
@wowaccount2481 Жыл бұрын
how does this compare to Esper cycling Zur?
@andrewsutherland1909 Жыл бұрын
Gonna put this together and try it out! Would love to see what upgrades you think would improve the deck from the newer sets!
@Wistbacka Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Kardur also had white in its identity
@JustSpag Жыл бұрын
at least Odric is still hot, even dead.
@allenyates3469 Жыл бұрын
After the bit about the art was over, this became an excellent video. You sold me on this deck.
@mizzogames Жыл бұрын
Pretty good card selection
@Spyromancy598 Жыл бұрын
idk if it was out at the time but 'See the Truth' is probably a better version of Ancestral Visions since it also let's you 'draw' 3 when cast from Vadrok, but you can also cast it normally so it doesn't get stranded in your hand without a way to discard. Also the fact that it adds to hand instead of drawing may be relevant if you've got Narsets or new sheoldreds in ur playgroup
@raffaelepassarelli6444 Жыл бұрын
Tom Bombadil announced!!!! oh boy...
@kitcobb6046 Жыл бұрын
I got Tom Bombadil in my prerelease deck for the LOTR set, coming back to Magic after years of not playing. I specifically came to this video to figure out how I can use him in a deck.
@andrewlopez9697 Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one here for the new tom bombadil ???
@magecraft7801 Жыл бұрын
No 😂
@raffaelepassarelli6444 Жыл бұрын
+1
@gonzotehclown Жыл бұрын
Shhhh keep your voice down
@JP-eh4ee Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dylansturm8065 Жыл бұрын
Reaver Titan is a house in this deck. Does 10 damage to a player. 5 to each opponent on attack and lastly protection from mana value 3 or less. Can't be targeted by path to exile or plowshares.
@Antaoleumas Жыл бұрын
Now with undercity it got better
@satschone Жыл бұрын
This is great. I had Krydle as a commander and now started to build it with Ninjas and now I see some "justification" coming from you that this might work....and I get some hipster-points! ;-)
@jumpshot5562 Жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you this is so good. Was wanting to build her but didnt wanna go basic voltron. I'm trying to do sort of an artifact aristocrat with cheap equipments but will definitely take advantage of this idea to supplement.
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You’re actually a fucking genius.
Came for the deck tech stayed for bear facts.
Spirit loop says enchant creature you control? Am I wrong
You are not wrong. Maybe he was thinking of Spirit Link?
All you really gotta do is get infinite mana and just cast ur commander infinite times and boom kill everyone at the table lol u can blink ur dockside 🤷🏽♂️
I like the idea of using him as a fuel cell for sacrifice, and was considering using cards like feed the pack and deaths presence to do that. It also occurred to me that if you wanted to build with death triggers being a focus, putting the -1/-1 could be a solid move to instantly kill each time you cast.
Why do people not like gurp hug
Hey! Very unique build! How did you like it? Thinking of trying your brew, would love to hear an update about your feeling on the deck! Thanks!
Clever ideas!
Very good job on the video. It took me a long time to figure Codie out. For me Codie is all about your curve. When you built Codie in a specific way, you almost always know which kind of effect you can expect from the top of your library. 1 and 2 Mana is spot removal (except your specific strategy), 3 and four Mana in my version is card draw or card selection (mostly on commands or charms to be very interactiv and always have the answer) and 5 mana and above is flashy stuff like brass bounty, boardwipes, mizzix's mastery, Approach, True Polymorph, Expansion/Explosion and Titanias Command. I really see the value and fun in those 0 Mana spells mentioned, but sadly they are all sorcery speed. For them to work in the right way you completely limit yourself to said speed. When I started brewing codie I had cards like Open the Gates in my deck and often faced the situation not being able to cast this 1 Mana spell due to its speed. That sucked. Now my deck starts with sorceries only in the 4 Mana and up slots, so I won't take myself out of the game. The most important ingredients in Codie are in my oppinion modular cards like Confounding Riddle. You got a good counterspell or card selection. With Codie in the Commandzone I never find myself screwed. One interesting thing to keep in mind for Codie are Split cards. For those cards the combined mana value of both spells counts for Codie so when you flip for example Expansion/Explosion it counts as a 6 Mana spell and most of the time doesn't count as Codies target. When you meet Codie and Zirda on Arena Brawl it is probably me. Peace out.
Thank you for your video! So helpful. Quick question, when you flicker a saga, and it re-enters the battlefield, does it enter with any lore counters? And, if so, does that Chapter trigger immediacy?
What about Esika as your commander and filling up the deck with low cmc green legendaries to act as mana dorks?
In some cases you could have sigardian zealots ability first to give your commander a boost first, THEN give counters from your commander making the creature that your commander targets that turn a lot bigger....or you could have your commander in turn also give sigardian zealot a big boost after him giving your commander a boost and he gives bigger boosts next turn too.
One of the most in-depth and well researched deck tech I have ever seen.
Finally someone explained what a lore counter was and how you add them. I promise im trying to get better at reading mtg cards😂
I feel using X spells in a Svella deck is a mistake. After all, they're dead cards with her second ability.
Thanks great vid
Im here looking for deck tech for Toluz, Clever Conductor
5:30 in and I'm just like "The stack is _complicated_"
Very helpful. I had recently made an Illuna, Apex of Wishes deck with a bunch of the godzilla-cards for a friend of mine, but the more I started to play it, the sadder I felt about having to give it up. I ended up really falling in love with the mutate mechanic, so I had to find a mutate-commander for myself and wanted it to be a Godzilla monster as sort of a rival-deck to Ghidorah. When I saw this card (As Rodan), I knew I loved the idea, but didn't know which direction I wanted to go with it. Usually EDHrec helps me figure out a general blueprint, but Vadrok specficially seemed to be really used as a low to the ground Super-Friends enabler and I wasn't too excited about that idea. Instead, I saw the potential of something like a storm-styled deck that just flooded value off of the Vadrok triggers, then turning said value into board presence and power with stuff like Young Pyromancer, Monatery Swiftspear, Guttersnipe, Ominous Roost and Sea, etc. This loop you've presented was just the kind of stuff I was looking for to make that dream a reality. I saw the potential of the bounce, but wasn't sure how I wouldn't run out of gas in that process, but this loop definitely works. A new piece of tech I actually do want to highlight for the cost-reductors is Hinata, Dawn-Crowned. It's a card in Jeskai colors that decreases the generic cost of spells for each target of the spell and increases accordingly for the opponent. It's also another example of why mutate is such a based mechanic, because there are so many small subtleties to how it works. Because mutate targets, Hinata works as an effective cost reductor for our spells, while taxing any opponent's interaction. Really cool tech. Also, Gandalf's Sanction is a hilarious way to cap a Vadrok-game. If you ever find yourself milling yourself out, just trigger Gandalf's Sanction for a trampling burn spell that scales off of instants and sorceries in the graveyard. Probably one of the funniest ways to ambush an opponent late game.
Steelshaper's Gift is the way to go. The card costs less than $1, so its great even if you have a low budget.
coming here to learn about sagas after the reveal of Huatli, Poet of Unity. Thanks for the video!
Skullbriar's actual biggest weakness is bounce effects, especially with how popular Cyclonic Rift is. While you didn't explicitly mention it, sacrifice outlets can also be used to preserve his counters if the opponent(s) try to force him into a non-public knowledge area. Thanks, I've been trying to find a workaround for that specific interaction for a while.
-1/-1 counters 💀
You can actually just send Skullbriar to the command zone any time he would switch zones, ie your hand or library. So you essentially can keep your counters indefinitely
Already have a svella and debated doing land destruction with her, so this was very helpful and thank you.
The deck is pretty consistent - thanks for sharing. Are you planning a update to include tutors or anything else ?
the fact that this video was uploaded on the fourth of july, and the deck is red white and blue lmfao
Nice list. Chart a course is not an instant though.
I am in the middle of making a Kestia bestow/mutate clone tempo deck. Any removal leaves my with the other permanent and another clonable, mutatable target to start over with. This is even worse if I flicker its base bounce creature in response, turning it into a trap that taxes removal. Zur can use manifest enchantments to manifest hexproof mutate targets repeatedly. Used in conjunction with ninja bounce, your opponents will be traumatized just trying to figure out if the 2/2 mutant is actually a 8/8 with double strike or just a basic plains. Tatsunari, Toad Rider creates a creature in sultai that is worth mutate cloning, which is itself a win-con when it drains opponent's lives for enchantments being cast. Bonus: mutate Vadrak onto Feather to create a flexible combat trick deck that can also recur utility pieces. By using heroic creatures that trigger when you target them, things get even more spicy! 🥵
Sad to see no new videos ... I loved your content ... not the typical straight from EDHREC decks and great explanations for card choices.
Orvar + Land Copy is so out there and the perfect mixture of stupidity and Jank. Plus profane tutor pretty much frees up 19 slots for the deck
I think there is way too little to none recursion for these hidden commanders. One Wipe or Spot-Removal and youre dead in the water, otherwise very cool Lists and Inspiriations - allthough the New Niv Mizzet Surpreme pretty much replaces the entire last list
This was super helpful and in depth!
Great video! I like it because is not the typical group hug deck. Thanks
Love this!
i miss your content, man
Great info 😊
hey I really appreciate that you compared Karazikar and Kardur because I have been really struggling to decide between the two. I haven't chosen 100% yet but I'm leaning more Karazikar.
how does this compare to Esper cycling Zur?
Gonna put this together and try it out! Would love to see what upgrades you think would improve the deck from the newer sets!
Imagine if Kardur also had white in its identity
at least Odric is still hot, even dead.
After the bit about the art was over, this became an excellent video. You sold me on this deck.
Pretty good card selection
idk if it was out at the time but 'See the Truth' is probably a better version of Ancestral Visions since it also let's you 'draw' 3 when cast from Vadrok, but you can also cast it normally so it doesn't get stranded in your hand without a way to discard. Also the fact that it adds to hand instead of drawing may be relevant if you've got Narsets or new sheoldreds in ur playgroup
Tom Bombadil announced!!!! oh boy...
I got Tom Bombadil in my prerelease deck for the LOTR set, coming back to Magic after years of not playing. I specifically came to this video to figure out how I can use him in a deck.
Am i the only one here for the new tom bombadil ???
No 😂
+1
Shhhh keep your voice down
Thanks
Reaver Titan is a house in this deck. Does 10 damage to a player. 5 to each opponent on attack and lastly protection from mana value 3 or less. Can't be targeted by path to exile or plowshares.
Now with undercity it got better
This is great. I had Krydle as a commander and now started to build it with Ninjas and now I see some "justification" coming from you that this might work....and I get some hipster-points! ;-)
Thank you thank you this is so good. Was wanting to build her but didnt wanna go basic voltron. I'm trying to do sort of an artifact aristocrat with cheap equipments but will definitely take advantage of this idea to supplement.