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  @jaymesguy23931 минут бұрын

  He was Genovese, actually. Take credit or blame for your own endeavors.

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  @cheryltanaka58858 сағат бұрын

  Brava y gracias, Elena! They all sound wonderful! Looking forward to reading them!

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  @ghostlightdc9 сағат бұрын

  Wrong. Columbus always defined himself as Genovese and he was referred to by others as Genovese. We can travel his family history extensively.

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  @sergioperezio552312 сағат бұрын

  Excellent coverage professora. Let's not get fooled by Maria Machado, she is like the energizer bunny for coup and recall schemes since the Chavez days. She's weird😊. Ma Cualli Ohtzintli 🙏

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  @DeNunya23 сағат бұрын

  He would have called Cuba Little Genoa, he would have gone to Rome for finances, I'm sure he would have gotten finances from some Italian nobleman if he ever were Italian. Italy would have taken claim of some American lands as well. Put all that together and you can conclude he clearly wasn't Italian.

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  @DeNunya23 сағат бұрын

  This is a problem that should have been fixed by not allowing other cultures to add their own interpretations of historical figures' last names. Colon should have stayed Colon or Colom in all the books. Not have some white historian butcher the name by calling it Columbus. When clearly in all the historical documents there was no Columbus or Columbo written anywhere.

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  @MTRG15Күн бұрын

  I wish I could feel this proud about my country

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  @Brazucaroyal3 күн бұрын

  Yes, Colombo eas Portuguese, but he did not coise any genocide, and if you think it happened, than you really got brainwashed by the shit schools. The Indians were the ones committing. Genocide. With the arrival of Portugal and Spanish, peace came to the indigenous people, and cannibalism was banned for exsmple.

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  @latinaliterati3 күн бұрын

  kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqmmrqSMmNPFhMo.htmlsi=KJ9dO9mdNVXCcx0r

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  @jiconcha4 күн бұрын

  This is an extremely biased video from a shill for the Venezuelan dictatorship. Better to ignore.

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  @cheryltanaka58854 күн бұрын

  Gracias y brava, Elena! Had read about this. Yes, Venezuela has oil, so $ follows it. Hoping it's not a preview of November and thereafter, however, we already have a precedent. SIGH!

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  @pietjemol34204 күн бұрын

  The Cuba connection nailed it for me.

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  @ewkeenan5 күн бұрын

  Amazing explication, well done!

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  @carlosteixeira61805 күн бұрын

  Columbus was Italian married to a Portuguese woman

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  @fabiotabaton3145 күн бұрын

  Away and booil your heed!!!!!,😂😂😂😂

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  @OcctobersXO5 күн бұрын

  We in Portugal do not claim this guy y’all Americans can keep him

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  @patrickcanny25006 күн бұрын

  This is one of the best documentaries I have seen😊, we live next to the museo Cristobal Colon in Calle Colon in Valladolid, Spain.

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  @luiskarantonis45317 күн бұрын

  Suggested that once in Genova,they almost beheaded me...

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  @louisdelaroca55988 күн бұрын

  Only tiny Portugal would make lies. Columbus knew how to write, his writing are not Portuguese. Even if his was, Portugal did not sponsor him. Not even one gold piece. So take your lies and go eat fish.

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  @andywilliams22375 күн бұрын

  His writings are closer to Portuguese than to Castilian. One thing is certain, he wasn't Spanish-born.

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  @xispaster4 күн бұрын

  Bacalao

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  @andywilliams22379 күн бұрын

  A good story, but way too much assumption, conjecture and inaccuracy here……. Looking at the past through the glasses of today, in terms of nationalities, language, religion, etc. Salazar’s Estado Novo was desperate to claim Columbus, or Cristóvão Colon, as being Portuguese as part of their nationalist schtick. They had over 50 years to do it….. but came up with nothing convincing, a lot of conjecture backed by nationalist zeal, but no real proof. (I have a house in Beja district and have been married to a Portuguese for 35 years). Many who were educated during the pre-1974 period are still desperate to prove the Portuguese connection….. You suggest that merchants were poor or ignorant, but they were businessmen who needed to be able to transport goods and converse with their customers. Do I need to mention Marco Polo? There is also John Cabot “of Bristol”, also a Genoese and a navigator and explorer. As a Genoese, Colon (not Colón, he was certainly not Spanish!) would have spoken a sub-dialect of Ligurian and certainly not “Italian”….. so it is natural he would learn to converse in other tongues. You say he wrote in Portuguese, “Spanish” and “Catalan” but actually, the surprise is that he did not write in Latin, as this was the language of the educated. “Spanish”, as a defined language, did not exist at the time, so it must be Castilian or Aragonese, or some form of lingua-franca used at the court of the Catholic monarchs (certainly not Ladino, which was created by expelled Iberian Jews) - and his “Spanish” is not good - using many Portuguese terms and phrases. Equally you claim he wrote in Mallorcan, describing that as “Catalan”, but both actually derive from Occitan, a language spoken right across the whole northern Mediterranean and heavily influenced by Ligurian….. so it’s actually a tick in the Genoa box as there’s nothing to suggest he lived in that part of Spain. The use of Hebrew is also not unlikely for a merchant, with close links to Jewish merchants and bankers - and the use in modern Spanish of ojalá (oxalá in Portuguese) proves how bits of “other” languages easily become adopted. You make great play of the expulsion of the Jews from the lands of the Catholic monarchs (NOT Iberia) in 1492, to support the theory that he might have been a “new Christian” (a converted Jew…. “converso” seems to be a Spanish term). But Jews actually crossed INTO Portugal in 1492, for safety - they were not persecuted there until much later (giving rise to the so-called “Spanish” inquisition). Columbus had not had a connection with Spain long before this expulsion anyway…. and actually it was closely tied up with the fall of Granada, the eventual reconquest of Moorish lands and a subsequent surge in Christian nationalism, rather than some undercurrent of antizonism. I think, overall, you make rather too much of possible Jewish connections - though it’s not impossible that he had Jewish blood, due to close connections with Jewish merchants and bankers - in Italy as much as Iberia. However, he married well…. unlikely for an ignorant merchant with Jewish roots…. but his wife, though born in Portuguese territory, was the daughter of the Governor of Porto Santo, whose own family originated in “Italy” and who had previously been a navigator. Oddly, Columbus was accepted into this gentleman’s family - but that might be easier if you are from “the old country”. There are many claims he “stole” his father-in-law’s charts…. and it is known that he had worked as a cartographer in Lisbon (another point you overlook)….. so this marriage seems to be key to his future discoveries. You also ignore the fact that his only reason for turning to the Catholic monarchs was because his proposals were rejected by the Portuguese king, and he went, cap in hand, to the rivals. Ferdinand and Isabela were the lucky inheritors of Portugal’s concentration on the eastward route to the far east (remember the Portuguese reached Japan by 1543!). His main connections with “Spain” only stem from that point…. up until then, he was certainly an adopted Portuguese….. but probably not born there. There is much, much more…. and it only proves the fluidity of the concepts of nationality, language, etc. As you have said, he did not even tell his sons much of his history….. so trying to establish it now is nigh on impossible.

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  @lxportugal93436 күн бұрын

  Colombus wrote in his diary "they will never find my origin" Obviously he was not the man he said he was. And you say it's very oddly is marriage?... that type of marriage simply didn't exist at the time. Salazar never wanted to prove anything with Colombus, the possibility of him being Portuguese was never thaught in school... and still isn't

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  @andywilliams22375 күн бұрын

  @@lxportugal9343 Unfortunately, you seem to know less about your country than I do....... I recall heated discussions (35 years ago) with my wife's brother, who INSISTED (without proof) that Columbus was Portuguese, because he had been taught as much. For context, he had been a conscript at Santarem on 25 Abril, so all his education was under the Estado Novo. I also had an interesting chat with a history teacher from Coimbra who had been take to Cuba in the Alentejo by the Juventud (fascist youth organization) to "see" where Columbus came from.... The Estado Novo thrived on looking back to the descobrimentos, that's why they constructed the monument in Belem - and proof that Columbus was Portuguese would have been the icing on the cake! Supposedly, Perestrelo was glad to see his daughter married off without a dowry as she was in her late 20's. Some people seem to claim her name was Moniz, but that was her mother's name. Perestrelo had been one of those who "discovered" Madeira, which is why he had the post as Governor of Porto Santo. As he was a trained cartographer, Columbus would have known the value of any maps that Perestrelo had.

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  @mc947711 күн бұрын

  babavoss2699 Acho que tem razão, porque desde criança ouvi que Colombo tinha um segredo que nunca revelou. Por isso quando ele voltou da expedição custeada pelos reis católicos, ele veio a Portugal encontrar se com a Rainha D.Leonor que estava num palácio perto de Vila Franca de Xira. Naquele tempo não seria fácil encontrar se com a Rainha, se ele não fosse de ascendência nobre. Que pena para Espanhóis e Italianos!

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  @sergioperezio552312 күн бұрын

  The Prophet, have one with a 1973 copyright. "Speak to us of children" is foundational to my ideals and read the chapter to my grandkids at least once a year. Thank you. Ma Cualli Ohtzintli 🙏

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  @cheryltanaka588514 күн бұрын

  Gracias, Elena! The famous cedars of Lebanon look amazing. Glad they are protected. A visit to Khalil Gibran's tomb sounds marvelous too. Wonderful trip!

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  @taranvainas14 күн бұрын

  Anyone who wants to can prove that Columbus was Genoese. I bet you don't even know that Columbus has living descendants (Colón de Carvajal) here in Spain. Columbus proposed to the Portuguese crown to finance his expedition and had no success, so he went to the Spanish crown and got it.

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  @alexandredebrito766514 күн бұрын

  Columbus was not Portuguese but sail for the Portuguese King before sailing for Castilla

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  @mjh543715 күн бұрын

  I guess Portugal should be the country given grief over "Slave Trade Reparations" instead of us now.

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  @salvino669917 күн бұрын

  He was from Colombia

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  @vitormanueldasilvamatos789612 күн бұрын

  QQQQUUUUUUUUUÊÊÊÊÊ !!!... Tanta estupidez e IGNORÂNCIA . Estimo as melhoras .

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  @nomcognom241417 күн бұрын

  The purported Italian origin of Columbus is pure nonsense which dates back to Mussolini's time and creative hypernationalism. Many more details point to Columbus being Catalan than Portuguese, starting with his surname and language. His writings were full of catalanisms, not portuguesisms. He wrote Catalan, not Spanish, as a native, and must have been one. I cannot say about Portuguese though I am fluent in all three languages, because I haven't read him in Portuguese, but there's a book published 10-15 years ago, from a US lady and academic, who did the linguistic research and established that Columbus mother tongue must have been Catalan. As for his surname, Columbus himself wrote that in Castile his surname had been filed, not cut or shortened, merely filed, implying Colom was changed to Colon. The reason is that Colom, a common Catalan surname equivalent to Italian Colombo, is mispronunced by Spanish speakers as Colon. Spanish does not have words ending in m. Colom did spend enough time in Portugal to learn Portuguese, which is less difficult for a Catalan speaker than a Spanish speaker. I am myself a native Catalan and Spanish speaker, and near-native Portuguese speaker. But had Colom been a Portuguese, how would you explain his native Catalan? We could add many other details that point to his having been a Catalan, whether from Barcelona or Majorca (both locations being part of Catalonia back then, in the Crown of Aragon). It is not just that the Crown of Aragon, through Lluís de Santàngel, paid for the expedition (contrary to the Castilian tale about queen Isabella's jewels). It is also that Colom wrote that king Ferdinand was his "natural lord", which unambiguously means that he was Ferdinand's subject. Therefore, he could only be a man born from subjects of the king, i.e. subjects stemming from any of the Crown's domains, i.e. in Aragon or Catalonia. But he wrote in Catalan, not Aragonese. And Aragon is landlocked while he was an outstanding sailor, a navigator. Plus, when he came back from his first voyage, the king waited for him in Sant Jeroni de la Murta, very close to Barcelona. Plus, in Barcelona, there was at the time a noble family where all names of Colom's known relatives names have a match. It was a very significant noble family, not wool traders. A family that sided against king Ferdinand's father during the Catalan civil war, which would explain why his identity was better kept under wraps for mutual convenience. The king must absolutely have known who he really was. PS: French Coulon seems to be a pretty obvious francization of Catalan Colom. French cognate for Catalan Colom and Italian Colombo (both masculine) is Colombe (feminine). Both Colombo and Colombe have similarly sounding letters O, while "Coulon" (like Coulomb, also French) has OU which is the same sound in French as first O in Colom in Catalan. Which suggests that in Colom's shipwreck survival, he was in fact captain "Coulon". "Coulon" is not French, like "Colon" isn't Spanish, and both are exactly the same in each language to Colom in Catalan: mere transliterations. An hypothetical Italian Colombo would never have had his surname mispronunced and miswritten in Spanish or Portuguese. As for an hypothetical Portuguese man, his surname wouldn't make sense. Portuguese cognate for the word is "pombo". The navigator's surname simply wasn't Portuguese. And by the way, main modern authors to support the Catalan origin of Colom, from the first a century ago, Ulloa (a Peruvian), to the latest, Estelle Irizarry and Charles Merrill, are not even Catalan.

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  @slbees134517 күн бұрын

  If May add some info to your podcast, #1) Columbus has letters, notes written in Portuguese, Spanish (half Portuguese), Latin and Greek. There is nothing written in Italian #2) he didn’t just marry a Portuguese woman, but the daughter of the very famous explorer of the Madeira Islands #3) after “discovering” the new world he sailed straight to Portugal and remained in Portugal for many days before heading to Spain after briefing the Portuguese King

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  @visionarymediainstitute18 күн бұрын

  This is absolutely fascinating to me and I'm so glad that the KZread gods put your video on my feed! I now live in Porto, Portugal (from the USA originally) and Iberian peninsula history is deeply important to me. Thanks for the inspiration!

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  @alfastur683318 күн бұрын

  5:31 the Jews living in Spain at the time of expulsion didn't have a language of their own. They spoke the same fifteenth century Castillian as anyone else. After expulsion the Castillian language evolved in the people of Spain and the expelled Jews separately, the former becoming modern day Spanish, the latter becoming the Ladino that still keeps many grammatical and phonetic characteristics of the language of the fifteenth century.

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  @alfastur683318 күн бұрын

  4:20 The edict of expulsion only concerned the Jews living in Spain. The Muslims were ultimately also expelled, but at a later date.

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  @liegesaboya3319 күн бұрын

  The Brazilian army also participated in this UN "peace" operation. The Brazilian five families media cartel portrayed the role of our army as very friendly, as if the Haitians were loving our soldiers there. Actually the army tortured, raped , made terrible things against the Haitian people . Important to mention is that South America officers goes to USA to have lessons on how to install dictatorships , oppress the poor and the black , torture etc . You could make a report on the School of Americas . Congratulations for your channel, very very good . From Brasil with much respect, keep doing your excellent work 🎉

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  @sergioperezio552319 күн бұрын

  Looks like you are having fun, awesome. 💯on "No Borders". I do not remember the title and I think it was a library book, but it discussed the rivalry between Hannibal and Scipio focusing on the families military lineages that preceded the rivalry between the two. Ma Cualli Ohtzintli 🙏

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  @jayhuxley255920 күн бұрын

  Horrible jewish propaganda has to stop!

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  @brunotorres733220 күн бұрын

  I also believe he was Portuguese there are so many possible links to Portugal it all makes sense.

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  @cheryltanaka588520 күн бұрын

  Brava y gracias, Elena! As always, fascinating. The world's a wonderful place with such variety!

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  @stopshell815421 күн бұрын

  Columbus came from Genova

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  @John-qd5of21 күн бұрын

  I have seen that beautiful carved monument in Lisbon.

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  @josealvesmerello21 күн бұрын

  At high school I easily always told Cristóvão Colombo was Portuguese but that there was this tripartite of Portugal Spain and Italy making the same claims. It’s like Saint Anthony or Santo António. He was born in Lisbon, went to Morocco and then to Italy where he professed his faith in Padua where he died and yet the Italians claim he was Italian from Padua.

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  @aalb187315 күн бұрын

  No its different: Italians knows St Antonio was Portuguese but they call him da Padova because he established his religious order in that city

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  @ADobbin121 күн бұрын

  As I understood it he was italian, born in Genoa italy. He went to italian rulers and they weren't interested. He went to the portuguese crown and they weren't interested. Even the spanish king wasn't but his wife was and convinced him to fund Columbuses trip.

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  @vitormanueldasilvamatos789612 күн бұрын

  TANTA IGNORÂNCIA !!!!... Não um pouquinho de vergonha na cara ???...

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  @Leonard-td5rn21 күн бұрын

  Columbus left Italy as a child He had lots of time to pick up other languages

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  @antonio.dragomadeira588920 күн бұрын

  Did you have solid academic proofs of you afirmation? If he left Italy as a child, in witch countri was Colombos raised? Were did he learn portuguese? Did you know that there are a book who claims that Colombo was a spie of the portuguese king D. João II in the spanish cort?

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  @vitormanueldasilvamatos789617 күн бұрын

  @@antonio.dragomadeira5889 Excelente resposta . Aliás , as afirmações do outro senhor, são reveladoras de alguém que é absolutamente IGNORANTE sobre estes factos importantes da nossa história . Só com este golpe de mestre , D. João II manteve o mundo e ,sobretudo, Castela longe do Brasil . Cumprimentos .

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  @MariaEduardaBaptista14 күн бұрын

  ​​@@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 infelizmente longe vão os dias que tínhamos governadores brilhantes.

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  @JoaoMartins-nb4tv12 күн бұрын

  You must be italia is that correct! You don, t have to reply

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  @Leonard-td5rn21 күн бұрын

  Italians are Latin. In fact Lazio is part of Italy

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  @tosfaleinan8rwpino22 күн бұрын

  Then , why he had a greek name and surname?

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  @sergioperezio552322 күн бұрын

  Happy bday month professora.. I think it was Carlos Fuentes that mentioned in the Roman senate Spain was their Vietnam, continually debating how much money and troops to keep sending. Have fun, and hydrate. Ma Cualli Ohtzintli 🙏.

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  @ratwulfviereck701523 күн бұрын

  Moré KZread bullshit…

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  @vitormanueldasilvamatos789612 күн бұрын

  A que é que se refere ??????... Você , pertence àquele grupo de milhões de brasileiros que precisam , UREGENTEMENTE , ler Muitos Quilómetros de livros . Mas, não livros do Tio Patinhas !!!... ENTENDE ???? .

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  @cheryltanaka588524 күн бұрын

  Felicidades, brava y gracias for the history and overview of Asturias and Oviedo! Rich in history and culture! Enjoy your birthday month travels!

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  @xispaster25 күн бұрын

  Después de más de 5 siglos guardando el secreto del famoso navegante Cristóbal Colón sobre su origen, se descubre por los documentos encontrados que no era genovés como nos han hecho creer sinó un noble gallego del linaje de los Soutomayorkzread.info/dash/bejne/qphltairZr2_aLA.htmlsi=Ng9aCau-pc7lxpXR

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  @SydneySopher26 күн бұрын

  Actually, there's even more compelling evidence that he was a Jew.

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  @petert169226 күн бұрын

  If I was Portuguese, I’d be embarrassed to have anything to do with Columbus.

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  @jorgecoelho405123 күн бұрын

  Nope, only cringe, for you...

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  @lxportugal93436 күн бұрын

  I would be more embarrassed for writing stuff like this