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vpro extra

On this channel you'll find video's made by the Dutch independent public broadcasting company VPRO. Across countries, the VPRO is widely recognised as a media pioneer. Our creative teams explore what’s happening at the edges of society, chase innovation and contribute to the public discourse.

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  • @Peebee01
    @Peebee017 күн бұрын

    Such am important idea explained so simply

  • @davidkennerly
    @davidkennerly14 күн бұрын

    The interviewer is persistently annoying. It's almost as though he's trying to get under Gould's skin.

  • @user-hr4rc2pt8p
    @user-hr4rc2pt8p15 күн бұрын

    20:30 COMO NO VA A MORIR SI ESTA QUE LO EXTRANGULA Y LO SARANDERA,, YO TAMPOCO ENTENDI

  • @user-hr4rc2pt8p
    @user-hr4rc2pt8p15 күн бұрын

    21:30 COMO NO SE VA A MORIR SI ESTA QUE LO EXTRANGULA

  • @user-pv7bt8xb7k
    @user-pv7bt8xb7k24 күн бұрын

    2:05

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505426 күн бұрын

    Clearly, Dennett misunderstood Nietzsche since, contra Dennett, the idea of the 'eternal recurrence' was put forward by Nietzsche in order to affirm life despite its horrors!

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505426 күн бұрын

    Contra people like Gould, Darwinism CANNOT be extrapolated so as to explain or explain away everything!

  • @popvinnik
    @popvinnik17 күн бұрын

    What gives you the idea that he, or any other reputable scientist tries to use Darwinism to explain away "everything"? And please define everything while you're at it.

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505417 күн бұрын

    @@popvinnik He was a 'reductive materialist' - clearly you don' t really understand what that means! 'Reputable scientist' within the current (soon-to-be superseded) paradigm.

  • @popvinnik
    @popvinnik17 күн бұрын

    @@timothytannerandtheamazing5054 On the contrary, I know exactly what a reductive materialist is as I happen to be one myself. And nice job avoiding my question.

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505416 күн бұрын

    @@popvinnik It's was obvious to me that you are a reductive materialist yourself. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so zealous in defending someone like Gould. Ultimately, there is absolutely no point in attempting to convince you and those like you that the materialist/mechanistic paradigm has had its day, for like, e.g., Steven Pinker, you don't see the need to even read the many contributions to peer reviewed journals that clearly contradict your paradigm which you erroneously regard as fact. Now, in common with all those of your ilk, you dismiss any experimental evidence that does not fit in with your model/paradigm. So, far from avoiding your question, I suggest that you first admit that materialism is simply an assumption. For instance, that the mind is merely an epiphenomenon of brain function is just that - an assumption. And an unwarranted assumption at that.

  • @popvinnik
    @popvinnik16 күн бұрын

    @@timothytannerandtheamazing5054 You seem to be chastising me for assuming things but you're the one guilty of it, not I. You assume that I haven't read any materials challenging/supporting materialism because if I had, I'd change my mind? That is utterly absurd. You mention experimental evidence. Care to share?

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505426 күн бұрын

    Interesting that Gould remarks that he's 'not at all inclined to write large-scale philosophical books'. Just as well since he was not qualified to do so, for he was not a philosopher!

  • @CBC68
    @CBC685 күн бұрын

    You seriously think a man of his intellect would waste his time on philosophy? His justification is that it would be a pompous waste of time was spot on.

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505426 күн бұрын

    Clearly, although Gould was good with the details of his own sub-discipline, he lacked any capacity for holistic thinking or looking at the big picture - almost autistic! Moreover, he doesn't seem to have been a pleasant chap to interview! Stephen, may you RIP 🙏

  • @timothytannerandtheamazing5054
    @timothytannerandtheamazing505426 күн бұрын

    Although certain interlocutors were clearly reductive, mechanistic, closed-minded blockheads, this was nonetheless a fascinating dialogue thanks to the intellectual fortitude displayed by Rupert Sheldrake.

  • @macklee6837
    @macklee6837Ай бұрын

    How on earth can such an iconic discussion with such brilliant minds have such low views?

  • @darillus1
    @darillus1Ай бұрын

    We have discovered happiness" -- say the Last Men, and they blink

  • @VaughanMcCue
    @VaughanMcCueАй бұрын

    It was lovely to view this in light of Dan Dennett's passing two days ago, and the final music track was fitting. G.M.T. April 22 - 02;35 - 2024

  • @johnbroussard4856
    @johnbroussard4856Ай бұрын

    RIP Daniel

  • @fenty4140
    @fenty4140Ай бұрын

    Daniel Dennett died on April 19, 2024

  • @duncanseath745
    @duncanseath745Ай бұрын

    R.I.P Daniel C Dennett March 28, 1942 - April 19, 2024

  • @paulamsden8420
    @paulamsden8420Ай бұрын

    Rest In Peace Daniel Dennett (March 28, 1942 - April 19, 2024)

  • @alvarotobon1105
    @alvarotobon11052 ай бұрын

    Parece que todobestobse queda en lechuguitas. y la carne que...

  • @harimgarcialamont9140
    @harimgarcialamont91402 ай бұрын

    Tu pecados son conocidos previamente.por dios. No te engañes, el es la bestia.

  • @lucianoolivera3878
    @lucianoolivera38782 ай бұрын

    Gracias

  • @inesandradecueva4261
    @inesandradecueva42612 ай бұрын

    Estarían mejor con la ropa adecuada para hacer gimnasia a plenitud,con calzado adecuado.

  • @user-kg1sy2st8z
    @user-kg1sy2st8z2 ай бұрын

    Hellow donde puedo encontrar mas videos de el en conferencias

  • @nateureo5428
    @nateureo54282 ай бұрын

    Wow, all the evidence today supporting all that Sheldrake says, it’s no wonder he was right-it looks as if he was in touch with the future or guided toward a goal and it turns out to be the case.

  • @popvinnik
    @popvinnikАй бұрын

    What evidence are you referring to? In touch with the future and guided by what? I think I smell the foul stench of woo-woo.

  • @robharrell-xd2pi
    @robharrell-xd2pi3 ай бұрын

    Once again we play God with our own arbitrary system of what is good

  • @Rowmokoko
    @Rowmokoko3 ай бұрын

    I'm sorry. Esther also just happens to speak fluent Dutch?

  • @luilli2676
    @luilli26763 ай бұрын

    30:20 "Evolution has no purpose" Note to self

  • @naveenadduri5091
    @naveenadduri50913 ай бұрын

    Friend anything red

  • @efectouniversal
    @efectouniversal3 ай бұрын

    Gracias por compartir esta mirada del Magdalena Medio, mis abuelos son de allí y es muy interesante esta exploración que hiciste desde la perspectiva local.

  • @robharrell-xd2pi
    @robharrell-xd2pi3 ай бұрын

    I gave up after a while because I didn’t feel it was a balanced dialogue. Freeman practically said nothing at all and Rupert was limited. I will not say it was a balanced discussion but stressed cold atheistic. materialism.

  • @popvinnik
    @popvinnikАй бұрын

    your loss

  • @thezzach
    @thezzach4 ай бұрын

    It’s always funny to me that people can be so mean intelligent like these guys but miss the most obvious underlying :

  • @USERNAMEfieldempty
    @USERNAMEfieldempty4 ай бұрын

    Are you saying that you know ''obvious'' things they are unaware of? I'd love to know what those things are.

  • @popvinnik
    @popvinnikАй бұрын

    @@USERNAMEfieldemptyYeah, me too. Of course they don't reply..lol

  • @thezzach
    @thezzach4 ай бұрын

    24:30 intellectual tennis without a net 🤣👌

  • @TyneSID3-Timmmmy
    @TyneSID3-Timmmmy4 ай бұрын

    Physics has been @a standstill for 40+ years now .. everything has been sent on a wildgoose chase.

  • @naveenadduri5091
    @naveenadduri50914 ай бұрын

    Requested hellos the

  • @doloresgarza8370
    @doloresgarza83704 ай бұрын

    Where can I find this video in English??😩

  • @DNA350ppm
    @DNA350ppm4 ай бұрын

    Have the Dutch fathers rebelled yet and got their paternal leaves with pay???

  • @11tanzim
    @11tanzim4 ай бұрын

    Michael is a phenomenal craftor and caster of words. Half of the message is not just in the words, but in the delivery. Substance and delivery are crucial brought together so well. Separately, I have becoming obsessed with this question of should we be changing the human condition. Transhumanist will argue the change enhances and improves the human condition. It seems that all 'great' civilisations and human projects have strived to 'perfect' the human condition and therefore the perfect human being. From judeo-abrhamic faiths and their moral virtues and guidelines (see moses commandments), to Western enlightenment values of humanism (we don't need God to be and do better, and the rise of self-help literature), to nazi Germany (eugenics and forcing a utopian vision of the perfect human being upon everyone). I believe only we can find our own salvation. The pursuit of perfecting our being is a choice and decision we must make within ourselves. Revolution never starts externally, but always from within. Then we can extrapolate from that to ask will this hurt or benefit my family, my neighbours, town, country, and the world etc...

  • @nataliasantanasantana565
    @nataliasantanasantana5654 ай бұрын

    Fantástico

  • @alex-internetlubber
    @alex-internetlubber5 ай бұрын

    What does he mean by the "music" and Schumann? The world will yet be saved?

  • @Capibara6948
    @Capibara69485 ай бұрын

    Excelente contenido, por otro lado pobre cobaya😮

  • @geeboom
    @geeboom5 ай бұрын

    Fascinating. The video starts with the racist ramblings of a black street preacher. The viewer is then treated to the wonderful world of Oliver Sacks. The dreamlike interview with this fascinating man ends and we get a rude awakening. An encore with the same racists. Dystopia, then the sublime, only to end with this Faustian religious ritual. Was this necessary? What was the added value of this sermon? A combination of events like this 1990s racist preaching and white guilt are what got us here. Have we been prepped for woke modernity, a world where white man's original sin is taken as a given? Did this slow drip-drip of shame and guilt fall on the fertile Christian soil of white Western atheists and agnostics? We live in an age when racism has become an insignificant if not absent impediment for minorities in the West to achieve their dreams and develop to their fullest potential. And yet, an onlooker who doesn't know any better would think our societies are rife with discrimination and racial injustice.

  • @tuoxie1235
    @tuoxie12355 ай бұрын

    Amanda is so cute.

  • @Jay-xw9ll
    @Jay-xw9ll6 ай бұрын

    Apart from this guy's claim, who ever said the only reason humans build complex machines, is to prove that humans are machines? Nobody?

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman29276 ай бұрын

    It's so wonderful how Dyson gazes in a downward direction when he is contemplating what to say. Most of the other guys gaze upward when thinking hard.

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman29276 ай бұрын

    I wonder what Oliver Sacks would think of Roger Penrose / Stuart Hameroff's idea of consciousness being tied to organic "microtubules" (a microscopic tubular structure present in the cells) rather than the neurons of the brain? This preoccupation with the ego and therefore the head area is bewildering to me. I now understand why women divorce themselves from so-called science. however, we do need better female role models so I wish some women would be willing to write their names on history. Our civilization might be worth living IF that were the case. The angry black/white men at the end of the video can suck their own dicks in their world without women.

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman29276 ай бұрын

    unfortunately, the mapping of the genome negated some of Dennett's dream of replacing human parts with machine parts. now we know that what people believe about reality effects physical healing powerfully-- the placebo response. Does anyone else interpret this conversation as a bunch of males killing and dissecting their femaleness in order to enslave and control what they consider to be weak and inferior? this victorian thinking coupled with outdated jungian archetypes has lead us through a mediocre history that is not worth repeating. a machine can hold up a mirror for humanity-- but it will never give one the free will needed to live a unique life. immortality would be an empty experience.

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman29276 ай бұрын

    what world are you living in that your perspective places a cum shot as big bang and story over yet we know everything about it yet it is also a "glorious" accident? how is this rational? a bunch of apes so fearful of death that they avoid the mystery entirely? well, nature has no fear of death.... are trees more evolved and intelligent? they have achieved a longer life span and these apes will kill for that.

  • @MetalNick
    @MetalNick6 ай бұрын

    At the very least modern scientists should be able to admit that physical matter is not the only aspect of reality.

  • @raresmircea
    @raresmircea6 ай бұрын

    Always fantastic to listen to Thomas

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman29276 ай бұрын

    beautiful communicator. i totally disagree with materialism and yet I adore him. female nature is irrational

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman29276 ай бұрын

    ok @ 11:57 he describes the childhood dinner table and the intellectual father that forces his children to converse about intellectual topics as they pertain to history. is it any surprise that Stephen was able to "shut-up, understand and obey" as the male child rather than a daughter forced to endure the same history? I never had children chiefly because our dum-dum reality cannot be explained to a thinking daughter. men like Stephen assume women will be all about love but we do not serve fools... and we are not obligated to love the males we aren't bonded to.

  • @whitb6111
    @whitb61116 ай бұрын

    Kind of interesting it translated Dennet calling him "clever" as "intelligent". Those are widely different.