LatticeDensity
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I have always been motivated by the prospect of optimization in the physical world. Coming from a CS/ML/AI background, optimization runs in my blood for everything. However, unlike software, more often than not, I find most of the physical stuff around us are not optimized to it's fullest and it inspires me to try out building compact gadgets myself, making them only as big as they need to be.
In crystallography, lattice theory refers to the mathematical study of the arrangement of atoms in a crystalline solid, where the atoms are organized in a repeating pattern that extends in three dimensions. This theory helps in understanding and predicting the structure and properties of crystals based on their atomic lattice. This packing arrangement is what gives the materials the structure and rigidity they exhibit and I feel it has a perfect parallel to the design of physical devices which are as optimal as they can be, hence the naming!
Hope you enjoy all that I have to share!
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So at about the 1 minute mark you state you are not a fan of a Thunderbolt connection.... but then you continue to build it with Thunderbolt 🤔
I think I won't be able to make this but this is really cool
I want a small portable 16+ drive SATA enclosure, to run off a standard LSI chip HBA, maybe via Zima Blade or a SFF Mini-ITX mini-PC. Check out Icy Dock's 6-bay hotswap, fits in a 5.25" bay. Need a chassis cage for three such bays stacked, no need for mobo yes Pico PSU, and the mini-SAS cabling connectors.
I don’t like thunderbolt…. Clearly you like third rate tech! #deathtousb
until everything supports it i'm not gonna use what i don't need to use
What was is the power consumption of this setup?
Handly!
i have that same x6 SATA 2.5" Cage, its lovely its a shame it has Molex Power stead of SATA Power but it's still a great Product for the Money
more easy buy a mini itx motherboard
Overspending on that sbc which has no ECC and then lacking money for a Jonsbo N2, my kind of humor 😂
✌️ *promo sm*
Так не проще было с основной колодки на которой ты делал перемычку для запуска блока питания 12 в взять, у тебя там и 12 в и 5 в и 3 в а ты используешь dc dc преобразователь у тебя лишняя деталь которая влияет на надежность. А так проект интересный, творческих тебе успехов!.
Where is RAID hardware for redundant data store?
The redundancy is managed by the NAS OS TrueNAS which uses ZFS filesystem that is industry standard for redundancy and RAID management
silly me, i just use an external nvme enclosure and a spare gen 4 nvme on a usb c port on my pc, sure beats the shit out of stupid ass NAS setups lmao, pull brain out of ass, then use an external drive, its also much faster
that is so silly. best what we have in regular SATA + regular PSU (in comparison with laptop's and other silly "formats") it is ability to use 3.5 HDD where are option with 18Tb 20Tb 22Tb - and when have ability to use 3.5 fortma use 2.5 - so silly. for example here we see 6 unit case - you all can say "whatever you want" but to ME is 108Tb (18*6) of capacity is more interesting instead of economy 10cm(or whatever it is) in 2.5 format silly.
I am not even going to argue on this. Just wanted to remind you of a basic characteristic of the market, that everyone has different needs and dimensions for optimization and nothing is an absolute "silly" in this world, everything is relative to the frame of reference. Also, just to complete your knowledge, there is a new 24TB HDD lineup available now, so your "non-silly" server can actually be maxed up to 144T in a 6 bay setup. You may wanna go with that 😅
@@LatticeDensity oh he could go with the 3.5" SSD's which are now 100TB each from Exadrive... so a 6 drive system would be 600TB... But apparently he only do silly useless builds.... Anyways LatticeDensity loved your little build there, well done
@@LiLBitsDK Thanks! Yeah some people just have to be mean, that's all. There is nothing wrong in adding my a new viewpoint or more information, but taking the tone beyond that is just simple arrogance and is not useful in any way, except to feed the author's ego 😅
I have an idea for you make a case with 3d printer and Use synology OS [Bypass]. Make a new video
I don't know if Synology OS is open to use like that, but 3D case for sure would be a nice upgrade 😊
@@LatticeDensity Yes you can use Synology on this build easily
If someone in here want to follow same route of this video, i reccoment to get intel n100 firewall pc and pull out the motherboard to save some money. It has 2 m.2 you can put one of then with m.2 sata to 6 drive for using 2.5 drive
Yeah totally! I actually mentioned that in the video as well, this board I am using is super overkill for this project and an N100 is more than enough. Another good option is the new Latte Panda Mu board with the basic carrier board that also comes with NVME Slots or the X1 SBC 🤘🏻
Core in 2024? Why?
What do you mean?
@@LatticeDensity truenas core is not in active development now. They recommend to use scale
@@hpsfresh Oh I see 😅 Yeah it was just an example to show end to end, one can choose whatever they like, from proxmox to unraid to Trunas of the world
Cool😊
Thanks!
Nice build. It's too bad providing power is a pain. I never understood why no one makes a 2.5" ssd solution besides qnap (the qnap was overpriced, had motherboard failures and were underpowered).
Thanks! Actually as pointed out in the highlighted comment, one can use the 12 V input here for both, as this SBC (and many other) support a range of voltages so that would make the power flow easier to build. Also, if you compare it to having a full PSU in there, I think having a few extra DC connections is fair game ha ha. Also, Synology has one too: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1496996-REG/synology_6_bay_2_5_nas.html but same for over-pricy behavior, not accessible to many. With an SBC like the X1, one can build this for as little as ~$200 which is much reasonable IMO.
@@LatticeDensity Thanks for the explanation. I forgot about the synology. Great form factor but you are right, too much for that old of hardware.
Wow, looks very interesting. I'm very curious how well it works with a ProxMox cluster. Thanks for doing the giveaway!
It should work equally well or better with proxmox as typically proxmox is much more efficient than TrueNAS to make sure it supports both ARM and x86, where TrueNAS only does x86. Thanks for the comment!
this looks so dope af
Thanks! 🤘🏻
amazing
Thanks! Appreciate it 🎉
to be honest i did like the idea till the video started playing. the woodwork is crapy -sorry i would scrap this as it is . second thing is this brand board- you can get away with used motherboards if you are doing budget- this board is just super expensive(yesyes it is maybe some energy efficient but if you want to count a bit - i can buy a mobo+cpu+ram+stock cpu heatsink combo for 50 it will idle at 15 w or so that 10 w in pricing untill it catches up to this it is going to past a decade- not even calculating that not everyone is keeping nas online 24/7). so by my opinion this is far away cheap. about the bays- i seen another video where the guy just got hot swap bays from dell servers and just from alu profiles made the slotts for it- that is actually cool moneysaving and great looking . i understand that the project was made only with hands and dremmel but it is on a level where i was in basic school- we did better looking projects there. i would highly advise to redo this video with some attention to budget and details- in current form just look at used parts prices please and be honest with yourself - would anyone replicate this for any reason?
links pz
Added in the description now. Hope that helps!
@@LatticeDensity yes thanks alot
Is the trueNAS Core does not have the ZFS performance measuring process during booting? I have installed trueNAS scale....
Not sure about boot time, but there is a scheduler that does it on a cadence. Core is generally easier to use and considered more stable so I have always used Core, but it's not necessary obviously
One useful tip for building projects in the future: always take into consideration that you might have to disassemble your build at some stage, so design things which can be taken apart and disassembled. While the case looks well put together, you're gonna have to destroy it in order to access the internals in case you want to replace or fix something and that will make the building expensive on the long run.
Yeah that's very true. Like I mentioned in the video, I hadn't spent too much time perfecting the case here but ideally I would keep repair-ability a top priority 🤘🏻
did you actually have to include a step down of the voltage? according to the specs the lattepanda works from 12v to 20v - so you could have just used a 12v psu throughout?
That is a very good question, I wanted to explain that but was too much of a detour so left it out. So, you are technically correct, however there are 2 main reasons for me not doing so, - They provide a 19V 90W adapter which is the official one they suggest to use, so didn't want to showcase something unofficial here. - The board needs at least 90W to run properly according to their documentation, probably more if there is heavy load so using a 12V adapter will mean that we will need a 7.5A + power brick @ 12V (90W/12V = 7.5W) which are not very common, and often expensive (high current low voltage is expensive than low current high voltage in general). So instead of crippling the board, I decided to use the buck converter which is like < $5 a piece so was much more cost effective and appropriate, IMO. Thanks for the question though, gave me an opportunity to clear this out.
Thank you for unboxing the normal version! Im also looking forward to buy it
Hope you enjoy it!
Nice work bro, lovely build and well explained. Appreciate you taking the time to make it 👌🏻
Thanks so much! I am glad you liked it :)
Dude this is so sick.
Thanks!
Nice quality videos! Cool idea, thank you!
Thanks, appreciate it! There is much room to grow on this idea, can fit 6 more drives if you want, even more, as dual M.2 or even triple M.2 slotted Mini PCs and SBC Broads are everywhere these days, and the Pico PSUs have power to drive tens of small SSDs so I really hope people come up with some monster builds following this idea :)
A nice lattice based 3d case would look amazing, and improve your cooling.
Yeah definitely, I just started sharing my projects recently and haven't yet started showing of 3D prints yet, as I want to keep the builds accessible to most people around the world. But if one has access to a 3D printer, then yeah, definitely I would suggest it over such handmade cases. Thanks for watching !
Needs a 3d printed case but honestly if you have the wood laying around that works fine. Nice small build.
Yeah 3D printing is definitely a better way to go for most people who can accommodate it, but for me I have been trying to show off simple cases that anyone can build, as 3D printing may not be accessible to everyone. Also, I have been trying to learn woodworking recently, hence the decision 😛
all of your builds are so compact and i love the wooden box, it looks cool❄
Thanks! Appreciate it. Design Density is definitely a theme I try maintain and will keep doing as far as I can.
A few years ago there was DJI pocket 1 and before that there was Osmo plus 😅😅😅
Yeah, they just keep innovating constantly! But this is the first time I have been purely wowed by the power density in a device ❤️
Ow It's so compact
Yeah it's unbelievably small for so much power 💥
Pretty cool stuff! bring it to my home on your next visit :)
Yeah, planning visit soon, Bihu coming 😋
Wow, you made your own case. That's really cool. Make a video on that.
Thanks! I am trying, will stay away from 3D printing as long as I can but it needs a lot of manual effort and hard to give good finish. But it's fun to create 🤘🏻
Power for external diy storage solutions has always been an issue, as no one makes a power supply just for hard drives. If you go sata ssd then you only need 5v which makes it easier.
Yeah💯, any 2.5 inch drives needs 5v, but it's always safe to have the full SATA protocol delivered as we cannot know what the onboard pcb inside the drive may be doing. But yeah you are right, it's a very unique use case which probably doesn't make for a good business case which is why no-one seems to make them. But in my experience, these Pico PSUs are the most optimal solution you can get, pretty much
job well done my man also your keybord is nice
Thanks ! Custom Keyboards is another hobby I had in the past, not so much anymore 😅
love it ❤
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nice waiting for nas
I am waiting for some parts 😒
only ugreen sells good converters and cases here. Others are cheap chinese that heat or imported with 4x price.
Yeah, their new NAS lineup is pretty amazing and selling like hotcakes on Kickstarter 😄But even they don't have a 4 bay enclosure though
Great idea, nicely made video ❤
Thanks!
There a cad for NAS cases with support for 6 x 2.5inch drive. However it uses smaller motherboard need to stripe from industrial router pc from aliexpress
Staying away from CAD for now 🥹
nice video very informing. i was working on something like it except i needed a raspberry pi to act like a NAS server and cloud machine , i designed a 3d printable case but i am having problems trying to power everything (4 sata SSD and 4 nvme drives all in USB enclosures)
Yeah, arranging the power of all that is the key
test speed?
~400 for SSDs, ~120 for Disk Drives in JBOD setup
For a long time i was searching for this kind of solution. Thx for the video. :)
Awesome project!
Thank you!
Awesome video! Really look forward to seeing how you turn this into a NAS. Definitely interested in the giveaway :) Subscribed!
Thanks! Really appreciate your comment, noted for the giveaway 👍🏼