My wheels from the atv have a smaller diameter hole than the wagon front axle. Did you run into this issue? I can’t get the atv wheels on the wagon front axle. Thanks.
@johnbonzeyАй бұрын
It’s been a while but pretty sure they fit on mine. If this is the case I would just ust drill out the atv rim to fit the wagon axle
@firefyter1972Ай бұрын
Thanks. I ended up cutting off original wagon axle and welded atv axle on.
@johnbonzeyАй бұрын
@@firefyter1972I looked and this is what I did as well. Sorry for this original answer
@mikekemp6185Ай бұрын
What would you charge to build one of these for me?
@johnbonzeyАй бұрын
Sorry man I’m not doing it again. I’ve moved on :). These guys make some really nice ones though. ebeachwagon.com/
@derecksaran20392 ай бұрын
I built one after watching your video. It was a huge help. I don’t know how to post pictures on here or I would. I also use my down cape cod.
@johnbonzey2 ай бұрын
Awesome. Glad it helped
@tinyrick01_303 ай бұрын
Would you be willing to build another one for a price?
@johnbonzey3 ай бұрын
I’d sell the one i showed for $1500 , it’s a lot of work. I’d include the bigger batteries. You’d have to pick it up as it can’t be shipped. In Massachusetts
@tinyrick01_303 ай бұрын
@@johnbonzeyI would definitely pay that but im in Tennessee so thatd be a heck of a drive. Let me see if I know anyone thats ever that way.
@inspectorgadget65104 ай бұрын
I really need to build me one of these! You did a great job on this build! I need to start drawing plans and git er done before we start going to the beach!! This is the best beach wagon I’ve seen on KZread! The only thing I would even consider doing differently is possibly making it out of aluminum but everything else is perfect! I’m going to loose sleep trying to figure out whether to buy the cart and add the electronics or build it from scratch then I’d have to decide whether to build it from steel or aluminum. So many decisions…..
@CarCareKiosk5 ай бұрын
Awesome build! I have a 90 foot hill to climb to get to the beach that is pretty steep. Would you stick with the 36 tooth socket or see if electricscooter parts could make something a bit bigger for additional torque (at the expense of speed)?
@johnbonzey5 ай бұрын
I think the 9 tooth to 36 tooth will be perfect. I rode mine up a pretty long hill a lot longer than that and it was fully loaded :). You can see me at the end of the second video doing it. If it’s a huge sand dune you will definitely need to pull it or get wider wheels. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6SCrdJsn9aYYNo.htmlsi=yCZnG90h6Y35A9tc
@CarCareKiosk5 ай бұрын
@@johnbonzey Sounds great - thanks for the follow-up! I saw you go up that hill - my hill is 90 vertical feet to climb, length is probably 1/8 of a mile or so. Sounds like the 36 tooth sprocket is still the ticket though. Thanks again
@johnbonzey5 ай бұрын
@@CarCareKioskthe hill I was climbing was at least that long so you’ll be good. May want to get a couple bigger batteries since the ones that come with the cart are pretty small but who knows maybe they’ll work
@kevinthemayor5 ай бұрын
I finally got a razor atv for only $75 on marketplace! Now to study your video more, thanks! *it just needs a new power switch, my garden cart is about at least size and half bigger than yours, will the razor still carry it fine with a load of driftwood on it? Thanks for all your help
@johnbonzey5 ай бұрын
lol That’s awesome. You did much better than me :). Good luck on the build.
@gregtesta84605 ай бұрын
Hey John, how much weight would you say you hauled with it? Im building a cart now that will weight around 250 pounds with everything. Im thinking of jumping up to a 40 tooth on the bigger gear (instead of a 36) and 9 on the smaller gear which would give more torque. They are saying around 2.5 MPH
@johnbonzey5 ай бұрын
Prob about 50 pounds. But I sit in it and and go up a the hill and I’m at 220 plus the contents with no issue on a 36 tooth to 9 tooth drive
@eBeachWagon7 ай бұрын
Nice work! Feel free to send your viewers our way if they don't have the ability to make their own electric beach wagon ;)
@HuskySamuraiZ7 ай бұрын
I want to be a mechanic so could I build this?
@nickalderson45638 ай бұрын
This is E X A C T L Y what I have been looking for for ages. So I can take all the beach gear and my disabled friend to the beach.
@eBeachWagon7 ай бұрын
@nickalderson4563 Check out e-Beach Wagon if you can't make your own.
@amoghjoshi55649 ай бұрын
How much does it cost
@johnbonzey9 ай бұрын
I explain it all at the end of the video and it’s in the comments section. I was into it for prob $500 but that was a couple years ago
@richardl59029 ай бұрын
Nicely done!
@user-ep8lw8tw6d9 ай бұрын
Is there a way to add a reverse switch or does razor ATV motor not allow that? Would be a nice added feature for maneuvering. Great build though. I’m working on getting my components together not for next year.
@johnbonzey9 ай бұрын
A reverse switch can be added from what I’ve read. You’ll have to Google it. I never added it and even after running this for a while still don’t personally see a need for it but clearly up to you.
@RyanWaves9 ай бұрын
Yes you can add a reverse switch to the beach cart. It comes in handy if you have a tight garage or shed and need to back out of it. I made a forward/reverse switch for my beach cart that was created from a razor dirt quad ATV. I will post a video on youtube showing it off and how to create the switch soon!
@RyanWaves8 ай бұрын
Hey again! Here is a tutorial on how I added a Reverse Switch to my Beach Cart/Razor Dirt Quad ATV: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z32autqMfs7HeKQ.html
@Patriciamonarrez10 ай бұрын
Nice build! Did you wire both ignition wires to the black wire on the thumb throttle cable?
@johnbonzey10 ай бұрын
I honestly can’t remember what wires I connected to the thumb throttle but I only cut one of them and ran it through the ignition. If I had to do it again I’d prob not even use the key and just unplug the quick connect at the battery connecting the + and - It works but I don’t even use the key anymore.
@mattgray224710 ай бұрын
If the battery dies, will it free wheel to be able to pull it back?
@johnbonzey10 ай бұрын
You will need to remove the master link on the chain. It will move but you will not be able to pull it for long without being exhausted :)
@kevinthemayor10 ай бұрын
I got almost the exact same cart this weekend but its tractor supply, will any electric kids dirt quad work? Thanks for the video
@johnbonzey10 ай бұрын
Just look for a razor dirt quad on marketplace or Craigslist. You’ll see the wheels will look the same as on my cart
@roblheureux192810 ай бұрын
Hi John, great video. Also, I noticed the sled rack in the background and was wondering if you could share with me how you built it. I own six sleds and this would be very useful for when I store them. Thanks
@roblheureux192810 ай бұрын
Disregard, I just watched your video on the sled deck....thank you again!!!
@norrispaquin2279 Жыл бұрын
Looks great John. How do you get to the sled down?
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I just back it up to the ramps I made shown in the video. Gravity let’s it come down without power. u DEFINITELY need the brake :). I did buy a cheap harbor freight hand winch for like $13 that I welded to an old ball mount I had and slid it into my truck receiver. Connected up a drill to it and it worked great but in the end just backing it up worked fine
@allkindsofoutdooractivities Жыл бұрын
Super cool idea! That’s awesome
@shaydu1967 Жыл бұрын
Ok, the stock wheels suck, buy the Bonlo wheels or you will be pulling through soft sand. Next, make sure the batteries you get are at least 18 amp hour. The stock batteries are only 8 amp hour and last only 10 to 15 minutes depending on the flatness of the sand. I did have to mod the back axle so the wheels would be powered since the Bonlo wheels are free rolling. I also put a 3 way switch on the handle so I have reverse.
@johnbonzey11 ай бұрын
The bonnlo wheels have some pretty bad reviews so I’d be interested how they work out for you. Like I said in deep sand with the dirt quad tires you’ll have to help it but it was a non issue for me.
@ChrisMass-dn2yo Жыл бұрын
how much does it weigh empty?
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Never weighed it but at least 75 pounds. I put it into the bed of my truck by myself
@derecksaran2039 Жыл бұрын
Great video I’m almost done with mine. I’ll post a picture later. Do you know if the controller can be enclosed. I want to reuse the battery cover to hide my wires and controller
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you can. I made a cover for mine that goes over it all but it is open on the top. I really don’t know if you should make sure it’s ventilated for heat dissipation .
@jacobsamples8864 Жыл бұрын
I have a beach wagon that I’ve modified myself with oversized tires but I’m headed to pick up a razor as we speak, do you foresee I will have an issue putting my larger tires on that setup?
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
You will have to modify the rear axle setup for sure
@jacobsamples8864 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzey Roger, it’s a bit annoying I can’t post a photo on KZread’s messaging
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
If anyone builds one of these post your pics!!!
@LisaP-bd4cy Жыл бұрын
Does that cart have reverse
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I didn’t wire it up for reverse. Honestly I can’t remember if these motors on the dirt quads can be wired for reverse. Normally the polarity is reversed on the motors through a switch to get the motor to run backwards. Never saw the need for it personally.
@kevinroberts781 Жыл бұрын
I'm making one as we speak. I'm using ATV tires with hoverboard motors mounted inside of them. I hope they are strong enough to get through the deep sand. The tires are really wide. But im worried about it.
@carl0s288 Жыл бұрын
hey did you end up finishing your project? id like to know how the hoverboard motors worked out thanks
@kevinroberts781 Жыл бұрын
@@carl0s288 Not yet. I'm still debating which speed controller to get. I think I'm going to go with the cheap ones for now. If anything just to test. If they work well I'll stick with them. We are heading to the beach in September so I haven't been in a huge hurry. Taking time to research. I'm worried the cheap controllers will burn up when they hit the sand. I did purchase battery holders that use Milwaukee M18 batteries. I'm going to use those to power it. I'll absolutely let ya know as soon as I get the speed controllers
@jasonc470 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the uploads on your beach cart John! I just finished up with mine although I haven't switched sprockets yet... Im just out of time so it will wait until I get back. I wanted to offer a little idea I am using for transporting the cart. We will take the Yukon and part of this was I needed to be able to use a hitch hauler. So I found one for a electric wheelchair that's pretty heavy duty but the beach cart just drives right up the ramp and done! Pretty sweet if you don't want to always use a truck. Thanks again for your efforts to show us your hard work!
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I read this again and this is actually an awesome idea for loading and unloading. Thanks for the tip!!!!!!!!!
@jasonc470 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzey😊 I had to add a little extension to the ramp but absolutely worth it! The attention just loading up is awesome lol. I haven't changed the sprockets out yet but I want to make it a little better in the deep sand. I had mine LOADED lol do you think the torque is better with the sprocket change or should I go to a 500w motor?
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
@@jasonc470 the sprocket was easy to replace and definitely adds a bunch more torque. I really think not changing the sprockets out will eventually burn the motor out since you are not running full rpm. Even if you add a 500w motor I would swap the sprockets. You can see in the second video the motor bogging down in deep sand so I too have been contemplating swapping the motor at some point. If you do this please let me know what you went with and how it worked out.
@jackhandyy Жыл бұрын
Put a cover on that chain
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I did after the video. The follow up video shows the original chain cover installed
@inspectorgadget6510 Жыл бұрын
Nice build! I have been thinking about for awhile how to build one. Can’t decide whether to buy a cart or build one from scratch. I have a welder(but I’m not a welder) always wanted to learn though so that’s why I bought one. But I really like your setup. Having 2 kids means bringing a lot more stuff out onto the beach. Do you think it would be cheaper to just buy the parts I would only need rather than buying the whole rzr dirt quad? Or would you suggest just buy it whole and possibly be able to use other parts? Very good job sir!!! Makes me excited about building one. My wife almost always says why don’t you just buy something instead of build it…..my response to her is you get the satisfaction of building it yourself and also gain knowledge of what your building! When you said rzr quad setup is it an actual atv? Or dirt bike? Or rzr? I know quad usually means atv but just wondering because my local facebook marketplace built but it’s a dirt bike. Do you think the Wheeleez tires are worth it? Never used them before but considering trying them then I think about atv paddle tires for sand and wonder which I should try first.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Thanks. It will be WAY cheaper to build yourself. I'm not a welder either as i bought one last year. This is definitely a good project to do yourself. It will take time for sure but as long as you can cut metal, grind, wire stuff up its pretty easy. The welding you will figure out :). The first thing you want to do is search on marketplace "Razor dirt quad electric". Find one for under $300 bucks - you may need to be patient but they show up. i wouldn't buy a new one for sure. The razor dirt quad has just about everything you need - motor, frame, wheels etc. I put the detailed parts list for everything required under the description. I was too cheap to buy the wheeleez but if you don't want to pull at all this would prob be the way to go - at $100 a piece i was thinking the project was getting out of control :) All in I was prob at about $500ish complete. An example of the dirt quad you need is at the link below: facebook.com/marketplace/item/1197225557645505/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post
@inspectorgadget6510 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just saw in your title it said kids atv I missed that as you could probably tell by one of my questions. Thanks for the detailed response. I know it was a lengthy comment.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
@@inspectorgadget6510 good luck and if you decide to go for it just let me know if u have any questions
@inspectorgadget65104 ай бұрын
I had just remembered about your beach wagon build a few days ago still haven’t built one but really want to. Do you think the wheeleez wheels will be much better in the sand? I saw in one of your comments to me if you don’t want to pull the wheeleez wheels would probably be better. I never have used them but do you think the Wheeleez wheels will make it so I’m barely pulling the wagon?
@mindykey3793 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome !!!
@mikec.8556 Жыл бұрын
The noise is worse than my wife’s nagging 😂
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Lol I understand. It’s really not that loud though. It seems the microphone on the phone makes it sound worse than it is. You can hear it for sure but I could care less if I don’t have to drag this stuff anymore :)
@jasonc470 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzeyit's only that loud due to the cover over the motor and chain lol take it off and you can't hear it. So either a little nose or a sandy drive line lol
@83KJack7 ай бұрын
@@johnbonzeymakes sense lol but yeah i was thinkin this til i saw what you said about it. super helpful video man that thing is a beast! i haul rocks from a river up a very rough uneven path and this would be a game changer for me. i could probably double my production with this set up. ill give it a shot 🙂 thanks for makin the vid 👊
@carlhamilton7572 Жыл бұрын
Solid panel to charge on the beach might be a good backup plane.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I sized the batteries so I don’t need one
@angelodimariajr8499 Жыл бұрын
Have you tested it on a steep incline yet? If so, how does it perform?
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
With a steep incline on sand you will need the wide expensive balloon tires
@scottthompson8468 Жыл бұрын
I have one with balloon tires. It glides through the sand easily. Very nice build. Great job.
@halillajqi7713 Жыл бұрын
How did u get the bottom snowmobile in
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Bottom rail just pops off. Slide it under and put it back on. Takes 30 seconds
@samsien9105 Жыл бұрын
If you make to 4x4 would be better help?
@MegaKB33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I found a really clean Razor for $200 I did order the 9 & 36 sprockets along with the other items from the same place. I am going to mount the Gorrilla cart on top of the frame and attaching the wagon handle onto the handle bare neck. I don't mind the neck taking up a little room. It will be enough space for my use. I too am adding two additional batteries. Thanks again for posting the vid and info.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Awesome. I couldn’t figure out how to mount the thumb throttle without changing out the original handle. Good luck with your build.
@MegaKB33 Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzey OK LOL I slammed my little cart together. Nothing fancy very simple, but works for what I need it for. Thanks again for the idea John. You did a far more superior build. Oh yeah I did install the same sprockets you listed. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mH2HzNNmiLfVoZM.html
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
@@MegaKB33 awesome. Glad it worked out as it looks great
@TheCSRTech Жыл бұрын
UPGRADE: Balloon times and 4WD!
@fsflip3111 Жыл бұрын
ive been thinking about this for a bit.. then i looked it up and you built it!!!
@RedfishInc Жыл бұрын
So much for gorilla tough...
@Alpha_Quadrant Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Subscribed
@MrMurdamass Жыл бұрын
Can yu make a video or send me yur workbench storage area lol I have a very similar setup.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I actually built the bench area like in the video link below. I finally can see my garage floor :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGaFo6-Seqeskqg.html
@michaelguzan950 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I've been looking for something just like this; amazing build and great video!!
@jspiker77 Жыл бұрын
Very nice build, thanks for taking the time to film and narrate.
@76whalen Жыл бұрын
I have one I built. I need to regear it where did you get the sprocket? I’d like to have mine a littler lower geared than your
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
I got the sprockets at electricscooterparts.com In the first video under description i put down the buy list with skus. I had to change the chain as well. Let me know how your lower gearing works. I could have used more torque but i'm thinking with the motor at only 350 watts if i was do change anything i'd likely move up to a 500 watt maybe. overall it ran fine but i could have used more power for sure.
@76whalen Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzey you said you went to a 9 and a 36 ? what do you recomend to go lower? Also im running 4 12volt batteries 7ah each.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
@@76whalen That ratio puts the speed at about 4 mph which was perfect. If you are using 4 batteries for a 48v system you are using a different motor. You will have to do the numbers for your specific motor using the motor RPM, Wheel size and sprocket sizes but the sweet spot you are trying to get to is 3.5 to 4mph. There is a good calculator on their site to figure this out. With the 350 watt motor on these ATV dirt quads the 36tooth and 9tooth sprockets are what i used and would not change. If i wanted more power i'd have to change the motor out and probably rework the gearing ratios which i'm not going to do at this point :)
@76whalen Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzey no im still running 24 volts at the moment thought about running the 24 volt motor on 36 volts
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
@@76whalen Ya after i posted that i was wondering if you were going to over voltage the motor. Honestly i have no experience with any of that so if you do this let me know your results. My fear i guess would be smoking something like the controler but again this is completely outside my wheelhouse. The guys at electricscooterparts.com would likely be able to answer your questions. Sorry couldn't be much help on this one.
@CJ-gh5wq Жыл бұрын
Great update, thank you!! I'm in the process of assembling the rear axle now.
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Whatever you do don’t remove the brake plate on the atv. There is a key under it holding the axle from shifting. I just pulled off the brake line but left the metal work
@CJ-gh5wq Жыл бұрын
@@johnbonzey I'm not using the ATV kit, I ended up buying an axle and doing it the hard way I guess. Thank you for the heads up!
@johnbonzey Жыл бұрын
Posted the cart in action at kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6SCrdJsn9aYYNo.html
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Do you make them and how much
My wheels from the atv have a smaller diameter hole than the wagon front axle. Did you run into this issue? I can’t get the atv wheels on the wagon front axle. Thanks.
It’s been a while but pretty sure they fit on mine. If this is the case I would just ust drill out the atv rim to fit the wagon axle
Thanks. I ended up cutting off original wagon axle and welded atv axle on.
@@firefyter1972I looked and this is what I did as well. Sorry for this original answer
What would you charge to build one of these for me?
Sorry man I’m not doing it again. I’ve moved on :). These guys make some really nice ones though. ebeachwagon.com/
I built one after watching your video. It was a huge help. I don’t know how to post pictures on here or I would. I also use my down cape cod.
Awesome. Glad it helped
Would you be willing to build another one for a price?
I’d sell the one i showed for $1500 , it’s a lot of work. I’d include the bigger batteries. You’d have to pick it up as it can’t be shipped. In Massachusetts
@@johnbonzeyI would definitely pay that but im in Tennessee so thatd be a heck of a drive. Let me see if I know anyone thats ever that way.
I really need to build me one of these! You did a great job on this build! I need to start drawing plans and git er done before we start going to the beach!! This is the best beach wagon I’ve seen on KZread! The only thing I would even consider doing differently is possibly making it out of aluminum but everything else is perfect! I’m going to loose sleep trying to figure out whether to buy the cart and add the electronics or build it from scratch then I’d have to decide whether to build it from steel or aluminum. So many decisions…..
Awesome build! I have a 90 foot hill to climb to get to the beach that is pretty steep. Would you stick with the 36 tooth socket or see if electricscooter parts could make something a bit bigger for additional torque (at the expense of speed)?
I think the 9 tooth to 36 tooth will be perfect. I rode mine up a pretty long hill a lot longer than that and it was fully loaded :). You can see me at the end of the second video doing it. If it’s a huge sand dune you will definitely need to pull it or get wider wheels. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6SCrdJsn9aYYNo.htmlsi=yCZnG90h6Y35A9tc
@@johnbonzey Sounds great - thanks for the follow-up! I saw you go up that hill - my hill is 90 vertical feet to climb, length is probably 1/8 of a mile or so. Sounds like the 36 tooth sprocket is still the ticket though. Thanks again
@@CarCareKioskthe hill I was climbing was at least that long so you’ll be good. May want to get a couple bigger batteries since the ones that come with the cart are pretty small but who knows maybe they’ll work
I finally got a razor atv for only $75 on marketplace! Now to study your video more, thanks! *it just needs a new power switch, my garden cart is about at least size and half bigger than yours, will the razor still carry it fine with a load of driftwood on it? Thanks for all your help
lol That’s awesome. You did much better than me :). Good luck on the build.
Hey John, how much weight would you say you hauled with it? Im building a cart now that will weight around 250 pounds with everything. Im thinking of jumping up to a 40 tooth on the bigger gear (instead of a 36) and 9 on the smaller gear which would give more torque. They are saying around 2.5 MPH
Prob about 50 pounds. But I sit in it and and go up a the hill and I’m at 220 plus the contents with no issue on a 36 tooth to 9 tooth drive
Nice work! Feel free to send your viewers our way if they don't have the ability to make their own electric beach wagon ;)
I want to be a mechanic so could I build this?
This is E X A C T L Y what I have been looking for for ages. So I can take all the beach gear and my disabled friend to the beach.
@nickalderson4563 Check out e-Beach Wagon if you can't make your own.
How much does it cost
I explain it all at the end of the video and it’s in the comments section. I was into it for prob $500 but that was a couple years ago
Nicely done!
Is there a way to add a reverse switch or does razor ATV motor not allow that? Would be a nice added feature for maneuvering. Great build though. I’m working on getting my components together not for next year.
A reverse switch can be added from what I’ve read. You’ll have to Google it. I never added it and even after running this for a while still don’t personally see a need for it but clearly up to you.
Yes you can add a reverse switch to the beach cart. It comes in handy if you have a tight garage or shed and need to back out of it. I made a forward/reverse switch for my beach cart that was created from a razor dirt quad ATV. I will post a video on youtube showing it off and how to create the switch soon!
Hey again! Here is a tutorial on how I added a Reverse Switch to my Beach Cart/Razor Dirt Quad ATV: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z32autqMfs7HeKQ.html
Nice build! Did you wire both ignition wires to the black wire on the thumb throttle cable?
I honestly can’t remember what wires I connected to the thumb throttle but I only cut one of them and ran it through the ignition. If I had to do it again I’d prob not even use the key and just unplug the quick connect at the battery connecting the + and - It works but I don’t even use the key anymore.
If the battery dies, will it free wheel to be able to pull it back?
You will need to remove the master link on the chain. It will move but you will not be able to pull it for long without being exhausted :)
I got almost the exact same cart this weekend but its tractor supply, will any electric kids dirt quad work? Thanks for the video
Just look for a razor dirt quad on marketplace or Craigslist. You’ll see the wheels will look the same as on my cart
Hi John, great video. Also, I noticed the sled rack in the background and was wondering if you could share with me how you built it. I own six sleds and this would be very useful for when I store them. Thanks
Disregard, I just watched your video on the sled deck....thank you again!!!
Looks great John. How do you get to the sled down?
I just back it up to the ramps I made shown in the video. Gravity let’s it come down without power. u DEFINITELY need the brake :). I did buy a cheap harbor freight hand winch for like $13 that I welded to an old ball mount I had and slid it into my truck receiver. Connected up a drill to it and it worked great but in the end just backing it up worked fine
Super cool idea! That’s awesome
Ok, the stock wheels suck, buy the Bonlo wheels or you will be pulling through soft sand. Next, make sure the batteries you get are at least 18 amp hour. The stock batteries are only 8 amp hour and last only 10 to 15 minutes depending on the flatness of the sand. I did have to mod the back axle so the wheels would be powered since the Bonlo wheels are free rolling. I also put a 3 way switch on the handle so I have reverse.
The bonnlo wheels have some pretty bad reviews so I’d be interested how they work out for you. Like I said in deep sand with the dirt quad tires you’ll have to help it but it was a non issue for me.
how much does it weigh empty?
Never weighed it but at least 75 pounds. I put it into the bed of my truck by myself
Great video I’m almost done with mine. I’ll post a picture later. Do you know if the controller can be enclosed. I want to reuse the battery cover to hide my wires and controller
I’m sure you can. I made a cover for mine that goes over it all but it is open on the top. I really don’t know if you should make sure it’s ventilated for heat dissipation .
I have a beach wagon that I’ve modified myself with oversized tires but I’m headed to pick up a razor as we speak, do you foresee I will have an issue putting my larger tires on that setup?
You will have to modify the rear axle setup for sure
@@johnbonzey Roger, it’s a bit annoying I can’t post a photo on KZread’s messaging
If anyone builds one of these post your pics!!!
Does that cart have reverse
I didn’t wire it up for reverse. Honestly I can’t remember if these motors on the dirt quads can be wired for reverse. Normally the polarity is reversed on the motors through a switch to get the motor to run backwards. Never saw the need for it personally.
I'm making one as we speak. I'm using ATV tires with hoverboard motors mounted inside of them. I hope they are strong enough to get through the deep sand. The tires are really wide. But im worried about it.
hey did you end up finishing your project? id like to know how the hoverboard motors worked out thanks
@@carl0s288 Not yet. I'm still debating which speed controller to get. I think I'm going to go with the cheap ones for now. If anything just to test. If they work well I'll stick with them. We are heading to the beach in September so I haven't been in a huge hurry. Taking time to research. I'm worried the cheap controllers will burn up when they hit the sand. I did purchase battery holders that use Milwaukee M18 batteries. I'm going to use those to power it. I'll absolutely let ya know as soon as I get the speed controllers
Thanks for the uploads on your beach cart John! I just finished up with mine although I haven't switched sprockets yet... Im just out of time so it will wait until I get back. I wanted to offer a little idea I am using for transporting the cart. We will take the Yukon and part of this was I needed to be able to use a hitch hauler. So I found one for a electric wheelchair that's pretty heavy duty but the beach cart just drives right up the ramp and done! Pretty sweet if you don't want to always use a truck. Thanks again for your efforts to show us your hard work!
I read this again and this is actually an awesome idea for loading and unloading. Thanks for the tip!!!!!!!!!
@@johnbonzey😊 I had to add a little extension to the ramp but absolutely worth it! The attention just loading up is awesome lol. I haven't changed the sprockets out yet but I want to make it a little better in the deep sand. I had mine LOADED lol do you think the torque is better with the sprocket change or should I go to a 500w motor?
@@jasonc470 the sprocket was easy to replace and definitely adds a bunch more torque. I really think not changing the sprockets out will eventually burn the motor out since you are not running full rpm. Even if you add a 500w motor I would swap the sprockets. You can see in the second video the motor bogging down in deep sand so I too have been contemplating swapping the motor at some point. If you do this please let me know what you went with and how it worked out.
Put a cover on that chain
I did after the video. The follow up video shows the original chain cover installed
Nice build! I have been thinking about for awhile how to build one. Can’t decide whether to buy a cart or build one from scratch. I have a welder(but I’m not a welder) always wanted to learn though so that’s why I bought one. But I really like your setup. Having 2 kids means bringing a lot more stuff out onto the beach. Do you think it would be cheaper to just buy the parts I would only need rather than buying the whole rzr dirt quad? Or would you suggest just buy it whole and possibly be able to use other parts? Very good job sir!!! Makes me excited about building one. My wife almost always says why don’t you just buy something instead of build it…..my response to her is you get the satisfaction of building it yourself and also gain knowledge of what your building! When you said rzr quad setup is it an actual atv? Or dirt bike? Or rzr? I know quad usually means atv but just wondering because my local facebook marketplace built but it’s a dirt bike. Do you think the Wheeleez tires are worth it? Never used them before but considering trying them then I think about atv paddle tires for sand and wonder which I should try first.
Thanks. It will be WAY cheaper to build yourself. I'm not a welder either as i bought one last year. This is definitely a good project to do yourself. It will take time for sure but as long as you can cut metal, grind, wire stuff up its pretty easy. The welding you will figure out :). The first thing you want to do is search on marketplace "Razor dirt quad electric". Find one for under $300 bucks - you may need to be patient but they show up. i wouldn't buy a new one for sure. The razor dirt quad has just about everything you need - motor, frame, wheels etc. I put the detailed parts list for everything required under the description. I was too cheap to buy the wheeleez but if you don't want to pull at all this would prob be the way to go - at $100 a piece i was thinking the project was getting out of control :) All in I was prob at about $500ish complete. An example of the dirt quad you need is at the link below: facebook.com/marketplace/item/1197225557645505/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post
Awesome! Just saw in your title it said kids atv I missed that as you could probably tell by one of my questions. Thanks for the detailed response. I know it was a lengthy comment.
@@inspectorgadget6510 good luck and if you decide to go for it just let me know if u have any questions
I had just remembered about your beach wagon build a few days ago still haven’t built one but really want to. Do you think the wheeleez wheels will be much better in the sand? I saw in one of your comments to me if you don’t want to pull the wheeleez wheels would probably be better. I never have used them but do you think the Wheeleez wheels will make it so I’m barely pulling the wagon?
This is awesome !!!
The noise is worse than my wife’s nagging 😂
Lol I understand. It’s really not that loud though. It seems the microphone on the phone makes it sound worse than it is. You can hear it for sure but I could care less if I don’t have to drag this stuff anymore :)
@@johnbonzeyit's only that loud due to the cover over the motor and chain lol take it off and you can't hear it. So either a little nose or a sandy drive line lol
@@johnbonzeymakes sense lol but yeah i was thinkin this til i saw what you said about it. super helpful video man that thing is a beast! i haul rocks from a river up a very rough uneven path and this would be a game changer for me. i could probably double my production with this set up. ill give it a shot 🙂 thanks for makin the vid 👊
Solid panel to charge on the beach might be a good backup plane.
I sized the batteries so I don’t need one
Have you tested it on a steep incline yet? If so, how does it perform?
With a steep incline on sand you will need the wide expensive balloon tires
I have one with balloon tires. It glides through the sand easily. Very nice build. Great job.
How did u get the bottom snowmobile in
Bottom rail just pops off. Slide it under and put it back on. Takes 30 seconds
If you make to 4x4 would be better help?
Thanks for the video. I found a really clean Razor for $200 I did order the 9 & 36 sprockets along with the other items from the same place. I am going to mount the Gorrilla cart on top of the frame and attaching the wagon handle onto the handle bare neck. I don't mind the neck taking up a little room. It will be enough space for my use. I too am adding two additional batteries. Thanks again for posting the vid and info.
Awesome. I couldn’t figure out how to mount the thumb throttle without changing out the original handle. Good luck with your build.
@@johnbonzey OK LOL I slammed my little cart together. Nothing fancy very simple, but works for what I need it for. Thanks again for the idea John. You did a far more superior build. Oh yeah I did install the same sprockets you listed. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mH2HzNNmiLfVoZM.html
@@MegaKB33 awesome. Glad it worked out as it looks great
UPGRADE: Balloon times and 4WD!
ive been thinking about this for a bit.. then i looked it up and you built it!!!
So much for gorilla tough...
Interesting idea. Subscribed
Can yu make a video or send me yur workbench storage area lol I have a very similar setup.
I actually built the bench area like in the video link below. I finally can see my garage floor :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGaFo6-Seqeskqg.html
This is awesome! I've been looking for something just like this; amazing build and great video!!
Very nice build, thanks for taking the time to film and narrate.
I have one I built. I need to regear it where did you get the sprocket? I’d like to have mine a littler lower geared than your
I got the sprockets at electricscooterparts.com In the first video under description i put down the buy list with skus. I had to change the chain as well. Let me know how your lower gearing works. I could have used more torque but i'm thinking with the motor at only 350 watts if i was do change anything i'd likely move up to a 500 watt maybe. overall it ran fine but i could have used more power for sure.
@@johnbonzey you said you went to a 9 and a 36 ? what do you recomend to go lower? Also im running 4 12volt batteries 7ah each.
@@76whalen That ratio puts the speed at about 4 mph which was perfect. If you are using 4 batteries for a 48v system you are using a different motor. You will have to do the numbers for your specific motor using the motor RPM, Wheel size and sprocket sizes but the sweet spot you are trying to get to is 3.5 to 4mph. There is a good calculator on their site to figure this out. With the 350 watt motor on these ATV dirt quads the 36tooth and 9tooth sprockets are what i used and would not change. If i wanted more power i'd have to change the motor out and probably rework the gearing ratios which i'm not going to do at this point :)
@@johnbonzey no im still running 24 volts at the moment thought about running the 24 volt motor on 36 volts
@@76whalen Ya after i posted that i was wondering if you were going to over voltage the motor. Honestly i have no experience with any of that so if you do this let me know your results. My fear i guess would be smoking something like the controler but again this is completely outside my wheelhouse. The guys at electricscooterparts.com would likely be able to answer your questions. Sorry couldn't be much help on this one.
Great update, thank you!! I'm in the process of assembling the rear axle now.
Whatever you do don’t remove the brake plate on the atv. There is a key under it holding the axle from shifting. I just pulled off the brake line but left the metal work
@@johnbonzey I'm not using the ATV kit, I ended up buying an axle and doing it the hard way I guess. Thank you for the heads up!
Posted the cart in action at kzread.info/dash/bejne/a6SCrdJsn9aYYNo.html
Awesome cart