The engine runs nice & throttles steady now we have the carbs adjusted. That clip of it running in the youtube video above was only the 2nd time we had run it & things weren't adjusted yet. Underload it'd be steady power but I'm sure it'd need some mufflers.
@jasonharlin280321 күн бұрын
Nice engine! I'm in the middle of restoring a single cylinder woolery
@YesterdaysMachinery22 күн бұрын
I bet they didnt make any money out of that patent, but a very nice piece of iron for sure. /Richard
@mikecameron532223 күн бұрын
Wow never ever seen one of these before. Thanks
@96littlefeather28 күн бұрын
That is soooo cool!!❤❤❤❤
@dougsather29392 ай бұрын
That is neat 😇🙏
@brucerogermorgan23883 ай бұрын
Interesting engine, but more detail would be good. I would like to see all around that engine to see how it worked.
@brucerogermorgan23883 ай бұрын
It is great to see that running, but it's not the only one. Villiers in the UK made a stepped-piston compound 2 stroke engine too, but it was not commercially viable. The increased performance was not enough to justify the extra manufacturing cost.
@nrowland563 ай бұрын
@brucerogermorgan2388, I’m glad you liked the video but the Villers you mention is nothing like the Tate engine we have in the video. Sure both are engines, & both are 2-strokes, but the Tate is not stepped piston, & also the cycle of the Villers you mention is completely different than the Tate.
@brucerogermorgan23883 ай бұрын
@@nrowland56 You're quite right, of course, but it's just that the Villiers was another attempt to make a different 2 stroke engine,.
@nrowland563 ай бұрын
@brucerogermorgan2388 , thanks, & Villers attempts were much later than a lot of earlier pioneers. I can send pictures of an American twin cylinder step-piston cross scavenged 2-stroke that was built in 1905 for marine applications. There weren’t many standards in place on engines back then, & whether better or not, everyone had their own idea back in the day for a better engine, & with so many foundries & machine shops all over, almost every town through the US had someone making engines. We have a small museum/collection here of over 400 unique mostly 1-off, prototype, experimental, patent model, etc engines on display. Make sure to stop in if you get through this way, it'd be a good time & most everything runs.
@garywytas74104 ай бұрын
I have one. But i think the timing is off. Can anyone help me out with this
@nrowland564 ай бұрын
My dad said he had a little trouble at first timing our engine as well. He said to time it off the intake valve. Start with the piston at TDC & time it so the intake is just opening. He said the cams are a little funny/off on the engine so if you try to time it by the exhaust first then they might close too early & there’ll be a little tiny bit of compression left in the cylinder at TDC when the intake valves open. Again don’t time it by the exhaust; instead try timing it starting at TDC with the intake valve just starting to open.
@colin_58395 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@colin_58395 ай бұрын
That's super cool!
@GoingtoHecq5 ай бұрын
The Darien fire station in Darien Connecticut has an old fire truck that runs on a 6 cylinder t head engine. She sounds unique. She is the pride of parades.
@jasonballamy91935 ай бұрын
Great set of photos Nick. Do you have any more details of that SECOR engine on your flyer as that would make a nice model. Also put me down for one of those hopper cooled RMC engines that I have not seen before if you ever get them cast.
@nrowland565 ай бұрын
Thank you & I’ll definitely let you know when I get some of the “Type G” Avery Rowland engines cast. First ones will be in aluminum & then will be doing some in iron. On the Secor pic, I always liked that engine as well & thought it’d make a neat model. There’s quite a few different styles of the vertical ones, with the one shown on my namecard being what I think the nicest-looking version. Will have to dig out pics to send you later.
@jasonballamy91935 ай бұрын
Thanks Nick
@yt6505 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Palmer a manufacturer of engines for boats?
@nrowland565 ай бұрын
They mainly built marine engines but they did build a handful of stationary units too.
@Tadfafty5 ай бұрын
I wonder if anybody has one of these hooked up to an original printing press.
@nrowland565 ай бұрын
It’d be neat to power a printing press with one & I’ve thought about doing that. Of the 3 other known engines, all are smaller versions of this engine, 2 of them are running & the one is in parts. I’ve seen 2 of the 3 & they weren’t powering anything.
@coilmotorworks5 ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@udflyer986 ай бұрын
Great video! Who was that young fellow with the Aerothrust?
@deutzmtz22056 ай бұрын
nice that old videos
@motooilermotooiler95976 ай бұрын
Well done young lad
@GoingtoHecq7 ай бұрын
It's a nice double cylinder flame eater.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir7 ай бұрын
Very nice video. Merry Christmas
@riderericsson7 ай бұрын
Incredible find!
@RustyInventions-wz6ir7 ай бұрын
Very nice engine
@RustyInventions-wz6ir7 ай бұрын
Very nice engine. Just found your channel and subscribed.
@pr1911487 ай бұрын
Eine tolle Maschine . Gives a modell to see in ful funktion or building information? I build a paradox engine with electric ignition and my next step is make the motor with flame ignition. I think the "Tuttele prinzip" are helpfull.
@zinckensteel7 ай бұрын
Neat little engine - but it sure looks like external combustion to me, like a dual cylinder flame licker or vacuum engine. This would make sense for the year of manufacture.
@nrowland567 ай бұрын
@zinckenstee; I’m glad you liked the engine & video. The basic layout of Tuttle’s engine is about the oldest known predecessor of the flame-licker engines people build today except that Tuttle’s engine in the video is an early internal combustion non-compression atmospheric engine with flame ignition. Fuel from the fuel tank above the engine is injected directly into the cylinders. Tuttle’s engine also has rotary valve air intakes on top of each cylinder. Air from the rotary intake valves is mixed inside the cylinders with fuel from the fuel tank above the engine. The flames in front of the engine are ignition flames. If this engine had a spark plug, it wouldn’t need the ignition flames on the outside to ignite the fuel/air mixture inside the cylinders. Thanks again & glad you liked the video.
@yt6507 ай бұрын
An explanation of how this engine works would be very helpful.
@jasonballamy91937 ай бұрын
Good to see you found some time to play with the engines.
@dougsather29398 ай бұрын
Very nice engine 😇🙏
@GoingtoHecq9 ай бұрын
Wow What a beautiful casting.
@gwheyduke10 ай бұрын
Any current information on the availability of the plans?
@wj321910 ай бұрын
Hi what kind of fuel is that running in the jar. I just bought one of your engines at auction but have no idea what fuel to run it on. I also bought one of your flame licked and need to know what fuel for that too? Thanks
@nrowland5610 ай бұрын
Use fresh regular gasoline for the Type D engine. Good gasoline should be pretty clear looking when it's in the glass fuel tank. The more yellow or darker-looking it is usually means it's older/more spent fuel. On the other engine, the Type A flame engine, it's actually an internal combustion non-compression atmospheric engine. They were meant to run on the old MAPP gas but they stopped making that around 2008. They're really really touchy on the new map gas replacement or propane since neither has the burn-range flammability limit that the old Mapp gas did.
@wj321910 ай бұрын
@@nrowland56 Thank you very much. I really like these engines I bought at an estate sale for Bill Yule in Ontario Canada. He had built many of your engines and now I’m the proud owner of 2 of them. I have the non compressing, the flame engine and the fearless engine. Very well made and I look forward to running them. This info is useful. Thx
@gwheyduke10 ай бұрын
Wow that's an old timer. Looks like it runs pretty good.
@dogbreath31211 ай бұрын
Are there kits or plans available for this engine
@keqwow1 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful little engine. I'd love to own one like this.
@MechanicForGMCCars Жыл бұрын
Hello sir can you give any good advice how can I use 3 4 6 pin relay to me ignition coil? I dont have 5 pin relay. I also have problem me car uses pick up coil /4 pin gm ignition module and E core type ignition coil 4 pins . So I try some how to figure out how to manuali retard me ignition timing. The 4 pin GM ignition module is sloppy in winter time and I have no way to retard me ignition timing . The 5pin gm ignition module has not enough retarding option I like me ignition timing to be more advanved due to bether fuel economi. I have 500k potenciometer so I never done those small circuets before . So I hoppe for some advice how can I make me ignition timing variabel in degree and if posibly bypass baterry voltage to relay directly or use different capacitors as amplifiers . So any help wuld be nice. Im not shure if normal relays culd run me ignition coil they did in the past but me ignition module varies frequency from 33-333hz in stages . So Im not shure what relay to use that can folow the ignition modules fiering sequence.
@one_up907 Жыл бұрын
Slap that sucker on a bike.
@one_up907 Жыл бұрын
Slap that sucker on a bike.
@shellycaldwell9328 Жыл бұрын
ƤRO𝓂O𝕤ᗰ
@jasonballamy91932 жыл бұрын
A nice little "engine", now you have got me wanting to make a replica to go with the horizontal one I made a few years ago. Also saw one of those water wheels in the second advert on ebay yesterday.
@nrowland562 жыл бұрын
Jason, thanks & I've been kicking around making a double-size or slightly bigger one of these electric engines similar to this one.
@colin_58392 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Runs great!!
@MrPaulleboeable Жыл бұрын
Need the exhaust valve detent arm for a 2-1/2 HP Edmonds and Bates upright engine. Paul LeBoeuf Belle Chasse, Louisiana
@engineguys422 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you still posting! You guys have an amazing collection!
@pr1911482 жыл бұрын
Hello, it`s a girl or a boy? Good job, the future is clear...
@nrowland562 жыл бұрын
Thank you & she's 1 year & 3 weeks old in the video.
@colin_58392 жыл бұрын
Very neat!!!
@bjk7772 жыл бұрын
Horace Woolery was my great grandfather. His weed burner is featured in the opening credits of the movie Airport.
@sedrifarhad2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us why couldn’t Brayton piston engines beat Otto cycle ones? Is there any obstacle toward their performance ?
@nrowland562 жыл бұрын
farhad sedri: That’s a loaded question in many ways to answer. The best way is keep researching & digging for things & see where it takes you & hopefully things will start to fall together. There are many different Brayton cycles, there’s many different definitions for cycle, stroke, etc. Engine cycles are constantly changing, etc., & there’s many different versions of history, there’s a lot of opinionated literature; list goes on & on.
@JohnBrown-gn1zz2 жыл бұрын
One cylinder compression, one cylinder expansion or power. Expansion reservoir on top correct?
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how does it goes when it is driving something?
The engine runs nice & throttles steady now we have the carbs adjusted. That clip of it running in the youtube video above was only the 2nd time we had run it & things weren't adjusted yet. Underload it'd be steady power but I'm sure it'd need some mufflers.
Nice engine! I'm in the middle of restoring a single cylinder woolery
I bet they didnt make any money out of that patent, but a very nice piece of iron for sure. /Richard
Wow never ever seen one of these before. Thanks
That is soooo cool!!❤❤❤❤
That is neat 😇🙏
Interesting engine, but more detail would be good. I would like to see all around that engine to see how it worked.
It is great to see that running, but it's not the only one. Villiers in the UK made a stepped-piston compound 2 stroke engine too, but it was not commercially viable. The increased performance was not enough to justify the extra manufacturing cost.
@brucerogermorgan2388, I’m glad you liked the video but the Villers you mention is nothing like the Tate engine we have in the video. Sure both are engines, & both are 2-strokes, but the Tate is not stepped piston, & also the cycle of the Villers you mention is completely different than the Tate.
@@nrowland56 You're quite right, of course, but it's just that the Villiers was another attempt to make a different 2 stroke engine,.
@brucerogermorgan2388 , thanks, & Villers attempts were much later than a lot of earlier pioneers. I can send pictures of an American twin cylinder step-piston cross scavenged 2-stroke that was built in 1905 for marine applications. There weren’t many standards in place on engines back then, & whether better or not, everyone had their own idea back in the day for a better engine, & with so many foundries & machine shops all over, almost every town through the US had someone making engines. We have a small museum/collection here of over 400 unique mostly 1-off, prototype, experimental, patent model, etc engines on display. Make sure to stop in if you get through this way, it'd be a good time & most everything runs.
I have one. But i think the timing is off. Can anyone help me out with this
My dad said he had a little trouble at first timing our engine as well. He said to time it off the intake valve. Start with the piston at TDC & time it so the intake is just opening. He said the cams are a little funny/off on the engine so if you try to time it by the exhaust first then they might close too early & there’ll be a little tiny bit of compression left in the cylinder at TDC when the intake valves open. Again don’t time it by the exhaust; instead try timing it starting at TDC with the intake valve just starting to open.
Very cool!
That's super cool!
The Darien fire station in Darien Connecticut has an old fire truck that runs on a 6 cylinder t head engine. She sounds unique. She is the pride of parades.
Great set of photos Nick. Do you have any more details of that SECOR engine on your flyer as that would make a nice model. Also put me down for one of those hopper cooled RMC engines that I have not seen before if you ever get them cast.
Thank you & I’ll definitely let you know when I get some of the “Type G” Avery Rowland engines cast. First ones will be in aluminum & then will be doing some in iron. On the Secor pic, I always liked that engine as well & thought it’d make a neat model. There’s quite a few different styles of the vertical ones, with the one shown on my namecard being what I think the nicest-looking version. Will have to dig out pics to send you later.
Thanks Nick
Wasn’t Palmer a manufacturer of engines for boats?
They mainly built marine engines but they did build a handful of stationary units too.
I wonder if anybody has one of these hooked up to an original printing press.
It’d be neat to power a printing press with one & I’ve thought about doing that. Of the 3 other known engines, all are smaller versions of this engine, 2 of them are running & the one is in parts. I’ve seen 2 of the 3 & they weren’t powering anything.
Awesome video!
Great video! Who was that young fellow with the Aerothrust?
nice that old videos
Well done young lad
It's a nice double cylinder flame eater.
Very nice video. Merry Christmas
Incredible find!
Very nice engine
Very nice engine. Just found your channel and subscribed.
Eine tolle Maschine . Gives a modell to see in ful funktion or building information? I build a paradox engine with electric ignition and my next step is make the motor with flame ignition. I think the "Tuttele prinzip" are helpfull.
Neat little engine - but it sure looks like external combustion to me, like a dual cylinder flame licker or vacuum engine. This would make sense for the year of manufacture.
@zinckenstee; I’m glad you liked the engine & video. The basic layout of Tuttle’s engine is about the oldest known predecessor of the flame-licker engines people build today except that Tuttle’s engine in the video is an early internal combustion non-compression atmospheric engine with flame ignition. Fuel from the fuel tank above the engine is injected directly into the cylinders. Tuttle’s engine also has rotary valve air intakes on top of each cylinder. Air from the rotary intake valves is mixed inside the cylinders with fuel from the fuel tank above the engine. The flames in front of the engine are ignition flames. If this engine had a spark plug, it wouldn’t need the ignition flames on the outside to ignite the fuel/air mixture inside the cylinders. Thanks again & glad you liked the video.
An explanation of how this engine works would be very helpful.
Good to see you found some time to play with the engines.
Very nice engine 😇🙏
Wow What a beautiful casting.
Any current information on the availability of the plans?
Hi what kind of fuel is that running in the jar. I just bought one of your engines at auction but have no idea what fuel to run it on. I also bought one of your flame licked and need to know what fuel for that too? Thanks
Use fresh regular gasoline for the Type D engine. Good gasoline should be pretty clear looking when it's in the glass fuel tank. The more yellow or darker-looking it is usually means it's older/more spent fuel. On the other engine, the Type A flame engine, it's actually an internal combustion non-compression atmospheric engine. They were meant to run on the old MAPP gas but they stopped making that around 2008. They're really really touchy on the new map gas replacement or propane since neither has the burn-range flammability limit that the old Mapp gas did.
@@nrowland56 Thank you very much. I really like these engines I bought at an estate sale for Bill Yule in Ontario Canada. He had built many of your engines and now I’m the proud owner of 2 of them. I have the non compressing, the flame engine and the fearless engine. Very well made and I look forward to running them. This info is useful. Thx
Wow that's an old timer. Looks like it runs pretty good.
Are there kits or plans available for this engine
Beautiful little engine. I'd love to own one like this.
Hello sir can you give any good advice how can I use 3 4 6 pin relay to me ignition coil? I dont have 5 pin relay. I also have problem me car uses pick up coil /4 pin gm ignition module and E core type ignition coil 4 pins . So I try some how to figure out how to manuali retard me ignition timing. The 4 pin GM ignition module is sloppy in winter time and I have no way to retard me ignition timing . The 5pin gm ignition module has not enough retarding option I like me ignition timing to be more advanved due to bether fuel economi. I have 500k potenciometer so I never done those small circuets before . So I hoppe for some advice how can I make me ignition timing variabel in degree and if posibly bypass baterry voltage to relay directly or use different capacitors as amplifiers . So any help wuld be nice. Im not shure if normal relays culd run me ignition coil they did in the past but me ignition module varies frequency from 33-333hz in stages . So Im not shure what relay to use that can folow the ignition modules fiering sequence.
Slap that sucker on a bike.
Slap that sucker on a bike.
ƤRO𝓂O𝕤ᗰ
A nice little "engine", now you have got me wanting to make a replica to go with the horizontal one I made a few years ago. Also saw one of those water wheels in the second advert on ebay yesterday.
Jason, thanks & I've been kicking around making a double-size or slightly bigger one of these electric engines similar to this one.
Very nice! Runs great!!
Need the exhaust valve detent arm for a 2-1/2 HP Edmonds and Bates upright engine. Paul LeBoeuf Belle Chasse, Louisiana
Glad to see you still posting! You guys have an amazing collection!
Hello, it`s a girl or a boy? Good job, the future is clear...
Thank you & she's 1 year & 3 weeks old in the video.
Very neat!!!
Horace Woolery was my great grandfather. His weed burner is featured in the opening credits of the movie Airport.
Can you tell us why couldn’t Brayton piston engines beat Otto cycle ones? Is there any obstacle toward their performance ?
farhad sedri: That’s a loaded question in many ways to answer. The best way is keep researching & digging for things & see where it takes you & hopefully things will start to fall together. There are many different Brayton cycles, there’s many different definitions for cycle, stroke, etc. Engine cycles are constantly changing, etc., & there’s many different versions of history, there’s a lot of opinionated literature; list goes on & on.
One cylinder compression, one cylinder expansion or power. Expansion reservoir on top correct?
Neat one!
Beautiful running side shaft hit and miss
and also the nice deutz at the backgrond ;)