Dylan O. Adams is a practicing patent attorney and partner at an AMLaw100 law firm practicing out of its Seattle office. He is author of the best selling book, Patents Demystified, which is an insider's guide to protecting ideas and inventions (amzn.to/3WoCZaC), used worldwide by inventors, entrepreneurs, startups and people pursuing careers in patents, including at top universities like Harvard, Stanford and M.I.T. He has also been featured as a patent expert on CNBC.
Dylan is available for interviews, presentations, panels and KZread collaborations. His contact information can be found on his firm's website, with e-mail being heavily preferred (www.dwt.com/people/a/adams-dylan-o). His ability to take on additional new patent clients is extremely limited and folks are strongly encouraged to watch this video before contacting him regarding possible patent representation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gp5sy5d_nrTUYZM.html Serious businesses only please. Capitalized startups welcome.
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What do you mean when saying a provisional application expires at the end of that year. Does that mean if I applied in December of 2024, my PPA is gonna last for a few days only?
The term of a provisional application is only one year, and it expires one year from when it is filed and this term cannot be extended. For example if you file a provisional on December 15, 2024 it automatically expires on December 15, 2025.
@@PatentsDemystified That's how I understood it at first until you said "at the end of that year" which I misinterpreted to be the end of the year the filing took place in. Thank you.
All the above.
Do provisional patents provide enough protection and what stops a big company from filing a non-provisional patent once they know your invention, app, product,... and believe it can add a ton of value for their business? Aren't PPs a bit more generic and non-detail specific compared to nonprovisional patents? Do others gain access to provisional patents after they get filed and approved? Does any of this get published or is this information exclusive to the pp holder and the patents office? There are so many things I wish you would explain in your videos because they matter a lot more than some of the other things you dedicate full videos to explain. For example, calling a PP just that instead of a PP application. I mean, yeah, it's an important distinction to make, however, most of us here are exploring this path and are searching for information to decide on what the next step should be not to sound smarter at social gatherings. I don't care if it's called a PP or a PP application. In the end, I wanna understand how to go from point A to point B in a cost-effective way knowing that my idea/invention won't be compromised in the process. Thank you for all other valuable information you put out there. This surely isn't criticism because there's value in your posts. So please take it as constructive feedback. Hopefully this will be the topic of your next post.
Provisional patent applications are held in secret at the USPTO while they are pending, so they are are not searchable. Also, provisional applications do not receive any substantive examination and are not "approved" in any way. Essentially whatever document you file at the USPTO will get a filing date and establish "patent pending" status. However, is makes it possible (and actually fairly common) that people file provisional patent applications that are completely worthless and provide no actual protection without people even knowing it. Also, provisional patent applications (PPAs) should have the same level of detail that a non-provisional does; otherwise, if you make them non-detail specific and generic, that's when they are worthless even though the USPTO will give you a filing date and "patent pending" status. Regarding providing enough protection, both provisional patent application and non-provisional equally establish a priority date for what is filed. Assuming you do a good enough job and provide sufficient detail, a provisional will provide the same protection that a non-provisional does. To your question of another person filing a non-provisional, if they were to do that after you file a provisional, their application would have a later filing date than your provisional, so you would have priority and would maintain early priority assuming you file your own non-provisional during the 1-year term that the provisional application is pending, which claims priority to the provisional application.
@@PatentsDemystified Thank you so much for taking the time to write a thorough response. I appreciate your time and comment. I'm working on starting a business and want to launch ASAP but at the same time make sure to cover all aspects. IP has always been a dark area to me as it is to most people. I am currently reading Stephen Key's One Simple Idea book and will implement the needed steps to increase my chances of bringing my ideas and inventions to the world and I promise you there is no shortage of creativity and originality here. Anyhow, thanks again, just wanted to let you know your time wasn't wasted responding to my comments and that I appreciate your time equally. Once I'm ready, I'll get in touch with your team of lawyers, hopefully ending up with a good one. Cheers!
how do i say this without sounding like everyone else? i'm not sure i can. i have a design that's unique and very valuable . i'm not sure how to ask for help because i don't want to show it too much.. i need help.
Talk with a patent attorney and feel free to fully disclose your idea. I have a full video on why it makes no sense for patent attorneys to steal ideas: Patent Attorneys Stealing Invention Ideas: The Real Truth kzread.info/dash/bejne/oox5w5qRgqmwZ9I.html Your business or idea is way most likely to fail by not getting it out there than the risk of someone stealing your idea.
You always use the A, B, C, and D example but it would be much more helpful if you used an actual example from a patent or a hypothetical patent.
Thanks for the helpful suggestion. I'll try to find a real example or more concrete hypothetical example for my next video on obviousness rejections. It can be hard to find good examples that work for videos because patent claims can be really long and have lots of awkwardly worded elements, which can make them undesirable for repeating in videos, but I'll try to come up with something aside from my typical A, B, C, D element examples.
I just finished recruiting recruiting for firm jobs so thought I would leave a comment. The market for patent law positions seems to have shifted nowadays and it can be really hard to get an offer if you have a life sciences/chemical background but no PhD. Some firms and in-house departments will not even consider your application and will just automatically reject you. I managed to land a position at a firm but I had to hustle and network a lot whereas engineers with just a B.S. that I know had offers thrown at them. You can still get positions with a life sciences BS but it’s not easy or at all guaranteed. Going to a highly ranked school, getting good grades, having research/industry experience, and marketing yourself as being open to patent litigation/non-pros transactional work are all very important if you want to get hired. I also think that having experience with bioinformatics related work is a useful thing to have on your resume. It’s becoming an increasingly important part of biotech R&D that will start coming up more and more in future litigation and many PhDs don’t have as much experience with it simply by virtue of being older and having been in academia before the field was as advanced as it is now.
Thanks for sharing your insights with us! I would definitely agree with this - especially how much easier it is for folks with an engineering background to get a job compared to having life sciences/chem background. Glad to hear you were able to land a position. Congrats!
Thanks for the video, I liked it! I'm looking for a patent attorney in wisconsin/madison. What's the best way to find a good/trustworthy patent lawyer in my area, just a google search?
My experience with filing in the PRC is that you are looking (as a solo inventor) to get ripped off. Easy peazy to file in Australia and Singapore.
What makes you say that filing in the PRC is a rip off?
Its been 3 years so idk if I'll get a response but im about to major in chemistry and im wondering if that enough to become a patent attorney?
Yes, chemistry does qualify you to take the patent bar. Also, I have a full video on how marketable different degrees are here: The Best Technical Background to Become a Patent Attorney kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWiekq2IhM3XmLQ.html Please feel free to leave another comment if you have any further questions.
Great video. My patent was issued 06/26/24 but it doesn't show a patent number yet; just the publication number/A1 number. How long does it usually take for that to update after issue? patents.google.com/patent/US20230138613A1/en USPTO patent center shows "Patented cased 06/26/24"
Hey Dylan! I am wondering what your stance is on computer engineering as a technical background for patent law
I actually have a video that discusses this in detail: The Best Technical Background to Become a Patent Attorney kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWiekq2IhM3XmLQ.html. I would put CE in the same realm as EE or CS depending on the course work.
Hello, Thank you for the info, I have an product I made but I don,t have the money to pattern it. what is the step by step advice you can give me please before I can start selling it. please help. Thank you
I wish there was an easy step-by-step process that fit everybody, but the best thing for you and your product really depends on your overall business plan and the product itself, so it's hard to give any specific advice without knowing all these specifics. That being said, not having funds to file an initial provisional patent application now should not prevent you from moving the product or business forward. What actually ends up holding folks back is being able articulate the product and business plan to investors such that they want to provide funds for filing an initial provisional patent application before selling, producing the product etc. Also, you typically don't need to go to professional investors in the beginning and can rely on friends and family initially to get the funds you need. Successfully launching a product or business is actually quite difficult, and most folks at early stages fail because figuring out the right way forward for their specific product and business plan is too hard or too much work.
Thank you I appreciate your reply and advise😊
Hi Dillon, I found this interesting! Could you share with me how you figured out to write the patents effectively when you first starter working on your career as a patent agent during law school?
Yea, the patent bar absolutely does not prepare you for a patent practice and just tests you on patent law and rules related to filing patent applications. There aren't a lot of good resources out there to get you up to speed if you are on your own, and honestly, I started with a copy of Patent It Yourself (amzn.to/3LjxDtT). Also, I wrote my book (amzn.to/4bIT9CQ) to be a guide to the patent process that new patent attorneys and agents can use to understand the basics of patent strategy and my firm along with many others use it as an introductory text for new patent attorneys and agents. I wish I had a guide like that when I was starting out.
I have a neuroscience degree, attending law school soon. I know that I can sit for the USPTO exam but what would the job market be? I see most people saying they did CS or engineering. Will this be a disadvantage for me in the job market?
I actually have a video that discuss the market value of different degrees in detail here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWiekq2IhM3XmLQ.html My video on my career path and troubles with a Biochemistry and Molecular Biology background is here, which may also be helpful: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5t2qNuBoKWckaQ.html Feel free to leave comments on these videos if you have any additional questions - glad to help.
@@PatentsDemystified Thank you, those were very helpful. My takeaway is that it is most beneficial to have a technical background in a technology based field which would allow you to apply that knowledge broadly across industries. It is beneficial but not as beneficial to have a degree in the natural sciences. I'm not sure how other natural science majors operate but I (NS major) had to take programming and CS courses because; much of understanding brain activation will not work with an actual brain and thus should be modeled through programming. Could you speak on how frequently, if any courses you took in undergraduate that related to CS (or a similarly related field) ? Were your initial employment issues (to your knowledge) a result of employers assuming you were not qualified due to your major, or was it more so that you knew that you didn't have a sufficient CS / mechanical background, or was it some other factor? Also it sounds like you sat for the USPTO exam during law school, I'm thinking about taking (and hopefully passing) before Law school... Do you think that this is a good course of action? How demanding (what were the hours like) was working as a patent agent and did if conflict with / hurt your grades at all? Would you recommend working as a patent agent during law school or is it better to pass the USPTO exam and then wait until BAR passage to start off as a Patent Attorney Instead? I know its a lot of question, If you have the time I would greatly appreciate answers. There is not a whole lot of guidance / information online and I do not have any family or friends in any remotely relevant field. Thank you.
Lots of great questions. Yes, that's a good summary, a technical background that allows you to understand a wide variety of technology areas is best and ideally technology areas where people are filing lots of patents CS/EE is currently the best because that allows folks to understand a broad array of computer technology and that's a field where tons of patents are being filed. There is a lower volume of patents in natural sciences, which makes it a bit of a niche practice, but you can definitely still find jobs. I didn't take any CS/EE classes in undergrad, and was instead completely self taught on computers and coding for use in personal interests in projects. Looking back, I wish I had takes some computer classes in undergrad. The issue with having a biochemistry and molecular biology BS degree was that getting a job doing biotech or chemistry work typically required a maters or Ph.D. to be competitive when I was in the market. My practice focuses on doing computer-related and mechanical patents, but I found it hard to advance because my degree did not match my skillset and I think firms were concerned about the optics for clients if I didn't have a computer related degree. My computer skills were fine, but I needed the street cred of a degree to support that. That's why I went back to school and got my MSEE. You should take the patent bar as soon as possible. I have a full video on why that's a good idea here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qGVrlsumdaeqlto.html You should be able to scale you work as necessary when going to law school if you do get a patent agent job. A patent agent does nearly the same work as a patent attorney, so it's going to be extremely relevant experience - honestly more relevant than nearly all the law school classes you'll take. It was a lot of work running a patent practice and going to law school full time, but I really ramped it up my 2L and 3L year once school got a bit easier. I made sure to provide myself enough time to get good grades, but having my patent practice was way more fun, so I tried to take easy classes where possible to free up my time.
@@PatentsDemystified great answers thank you so much
Can citizen of other country have USA patent? Reason the idea/product is for USA
Yes! A citizen and/or business from another country can apply for and be granted a patent in the USA. Similarly, inventors who are citizens from other countries can be named as inventors on US patent applications. The only limitation to be wary of is whether it's possible to file in the US first given the citizenship of the inventor(s) and where the invention was developed. Talk with your patent attorney about this issue if there are non-US citizens or if activities occurred outside the US.
thanks I was worried about a pipeline artwork I could not see. I have no problem going into detail of what my design is for examiners sake
Thanks! Glad the video was helpful.
Hi Dillon! Thank you for posting this video. I’m someone who wants to study for the USPTO and break into the field as some sort of part time or freelance patent agent/scientist. Would you have any advice for me who has a technical background in Biotech and Masters of Biochem?
I actually have a video that discuss the market value of different degrees in detail here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZWiekq2IhM3XmLQ.html My video on my career path and troubles with a Biochemistry and Molecular Biology background is here, which may also be helpful: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5t2qNuBoKWckaQ.html Feel free to leave comments on these videos if you have any additional questions - glad to help.
@@PatentsDemystified thanks brotha! I double subscribed to you lol
You mentioned in a previous comment you seeing "AI helping draft patent applications and assist with the examination process" to bring cost down. Do you know if there are is any AI that assist with drafting applications? If so can the inventor still claim full ownership?
Yes, up until recently I probably got a solicitation a week about a new AI product that will help me draft patent applications. I haven't been keeping up on which ones, if any, are starting to take off and actually be used by patent attorneys. The biggest issue with most products is security and they can't meet the high standards that law firms have while also delivering a good product. Regarding, inventorship, a product that just helps draft a patent application wouldn't need to be included as an inventor, similar to how a patent attorney that drafts a patent application for a client wont be named as an inventor. However, for inventing technology that could be patented, that's a different story and the law is still evolving. I actually have a video where I do some inventing with an older version of ChatGPT where I show that it does some inventing that would qualify it as an inventor if it was human: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZul3LB9Y9nfYbQ.html I haven't done this recently, but I have no doubt that newer LLMs could easy do work that would be considered inventive for purposes of a patent. However, the law currently does not allow AIs to be named as inventors. This same video discusses these issues (kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZul3LB9Y9nfYbQ.html), and the recent case law has reinforced that non-humans currently cannot be named as inventors on US patent applications.
Correct me if I’m wrong but if I filed a provisional patent this would be a good idea to protect my idea ahead of time if others know about it? Because I wouldn’t have to show proof of sales etc until I filed a non provisional right?
You don't ever need to show proof of sale in any patent application regardless of whether its a provisional or non-provisional and you don't even need to show that you've ever made a working prototype. Provisional applications are a great way to establish a priority date before making public disclosures, public uses or offers for sale that would otherwise start to forfeit patent rights. They can also be great to help your pitch before approaching investors. Does this answer your questions?
@@PatentsDemystified yes it does thank you:)
You bet. Glad to help.
If you do the first step of what your suggesting, you're risking giving your idea away by finding out if people would buy. A risk is a risk. Jump and just do it
It's counterintuitive, but it ends up being more of a risk to the business to file a provisional patent application too early and waste a bunch of money or not be prepared for the high cost of a non-provisional patent application a year later. The risk of having an idea stolen is actually extremely low.
Don’t new amendments have to be in the specifications or else they won’t be allowed? Is there another video where you discuss this?
Yes, that's exactly right. Any amendment to the claims must be supported by the specification and/or drawings as originally filed; otherwise, the amendment will be rejected under 35 USC 112 for being new matter or could be grounds for invalidation of a patent later on even if they slip through. I don't have a video on this, but that's a great idea.
Thank you so much for keeping your videos short and sweet, very informative. Are you going to make a video about patent maintenance fees?
What questions did you have about patent maintenance fees that would be helpful to have in a video? Honestly, I hadn't thought about it since maintenance fees are relatively simple in the US. and are just due 3.5 years after grant, 7.5 years after grant, and 11.5 years after grant for utility patents. Foreign maintenance fees and annuities are much more complicated and vary widely from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
Hello! I am late to the video but had a query…. I have a bachelor’s degree in pharmacy and pursuing my master’s in health economics and outcomes research. What is the scope for me as patent attorney with this educational background?
It depends on the specifics of the degrees. A degree in pharmacology would automatically qualify you to sit for the patent bar under Category A, but relevant course work may also let you qualify. Check out the specifics of how to qualify here: www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/OED_GRB.pdf This video discusses how to qualify as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHWZ1rahebPWfbA.html
@@PatentsDemystified Alright, thanks a lot! Really enjoy watching your vids on yt! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!😊
Great advice!👍
Thanks!
I just took a course on this subject last semester. I felt like one of the skills to become a patent attorney is time management, especially staying sharp on the deadlines. I was curious if speaking another language helps. If so, what ways it would be helpful.
Yes, time management is extremely important for being a good patent attorney. Also, yes speaking another language could definitely help in a few ways. One is being able to better communicate with clients who speak that language. A US patent attorney can represent folks from around the world, so knowing a different language can make it possible for you to work with folks that most other patent attorneys would not be able to. Also, as discussed in this video, we work with law firms in each foreign jurisdiction to assist our clients in getting patents in that country. Speaking their native language could make it easer to work with these law firms.
@@PatentsDemystified Thank you again Mr. Adams for your thoughtful reply. I guess I should brush up my Japanese and Korean. I got your book, so that I can get ahead in my Patent Prosecution class next semester. I hope you know that your videos are like gems for someone like myself! I hope you have the best day.
@ben9047 Thanks so much! Very pleased to hear that my videos have been helpful and hopefully my book will be too. Let us know how your class goes. Yea, I work with Japanese and Korean firms all the time and these are top places where clients will file patent applications. Knowing Korean and Japanese could really help with business development.
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Hi Dylan, a lot of great advice buried in one of your edgiest ever videos. I’m in the process of updating my now long-in-the-tooth video on whether a patent search is worthwhile and I keep coming back to this essay of yours. It's really a tour de force, and I believe, the most thorough video currently on the internet covering the cons and pros of patent searching. There is a good reason it has garnered a ton of views - I have watched it several times myself. Although you and I are a bit misaligned on your assertions that patent searches are a scam (that was a great hook, though), there is a lot here we agree on in this video and I always enjoy your content. Perhaps at some point in the future we could do a collaborative video, jointly discussing the merits of patent searches and PPAs for inventors, startups and public companies. I think it would be a lot of fun to shoot a video with you and exchange some of our differing views. Keep up the great work; I always learn from your content. 😊 Warmest wishes, -john
Hi John, great to hear from you and thanks for the kind words. Very pleased to hear that you've found this video useful. Excited to see your updated video on if/when a patent search is worthwhile. Yea, I would certainly agree that lots of patent searching is not actually a scam, but having a hook like "patent searching is a nuanced issue" probably would not have done as well. :) That being said, I still have tons of new clients or consultations come in who show me the absurdly expensive patent searching and analysis that was done for them, which is just a bunch of fluff and boilerplate that provides no actionable information. Definitely not in the same realm as invention submission companies though. I would love to do a colab video with you! Whether it's discussing patent searching or something else, I'm up for it. I've also noticed that your production quality has been really kicked up a notch recently - your videos are looking great. I need to get back in the studio and shoot some new content; unfortunately, it has been awhile since I've posted something new. Cheers!
@@PatentsDemystified Having just revisited the whole topic of whether novelty patent searches are worth commissioning, I have concluded that it’s a complicated topic and so context dependent, especially in view of the growing library of AI resources that are freely available. Except maybe for your tongue-in-cheek hook, it’s really hard for me to disagree with anything you opine in your video. Your’s really is, however, a tour de force on the topic of patent search value. There is just no shortcut to practice when it comes to making YT Videos. Counting the 20 or so videos I have delisted and tossed, I’m at about 150 long forms and still am learning at a glacial pace. Our social team has grown, so for sure I am responsible for very little if any of the small improvements we have made over the last nearly four years of recording and posting. Are you attending Vid Summit or Vidcon Mexico? ‘Would love to grab a beer or horchata and swap YT notes, if you are at either. Keep posting your great stuff; not only is it motivating for to me to watch your content, but also an awesome benefit to the community that we both serve. Warmest wishes, Dylan. -john
Thanks, John. No, unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it to Vid Summit or Vidcon Mexico this year. I would indeed love to sit down with you and chat about your YT experience. I certainly agree with the feeling that learning comes at a glacial pace, but I think that's a typical experience with learning the process of planning, producing, editing and promoting video content. My goal is just to improve my videos a little bit each time and glean as much as I can from analytics and video performance to see what's working and what's not, and then double down on the things that are working and remove the things that aren't. I think communication via video and learning how to making compelling content is going to become increasing important, and I think of this as a vehicle to learn those skills. I look back on how terrible by earlier videos were and hope to look back on my current videos the same way at some point. Your content is a great motivator to me as well - please keep on posting! As you say, it's a huge benefit the inventor, entrepreneur and startup communities, even if it does not feel like it at times. Cheers! - Dylan
You mention a prior art search/patentability analysis can be worthwhile for very simple inventions. I've already seen your "stealing idea" patent video, and I'm wondering if there are exceptions to going to revealing your idea to a patent attorney. Like if the idea is very simple and is something that the attorney is confident would have a high pay off, that they may try to execute/license it themselves; as they may make more from the income on it then they would in the remainder of their career.
It's an interesting idea and nothing is impossible, but this is so extremely unlikely that I would still strongly suggest that inventors not be paranoid about something like this. As discussed in the "Will Patent Attorneys Steal Your Idea?" video (kzread.info/dash/bejne/oox5w5qRgqmwZ9I.html) folks tend to wildly underestimate how hard it is to implement and idea and make it a successful business and product - even for very simple inventions. I can't envision a plausible scenario where there is an idea where a patent attorney would be so "confident [it] would have a high pay off" such that they would "make more from the income on it then they would in the remainder of their career." This is something out of a movie or a crazy conspiracy theory and not something that has any remote plausibility in real life.
How do specific details make it easier to get a strong patent? Wouldn't the more specific you detail the patent the smaller the box you put yourself in in regards to what will be protected?
Great question! That can absolutely be true with the claims of a patent given that the the more elements/detail you have in a claim, the harder it tends to be to infringe that claim. However, that's not true of the description and drawings. Having a great amount of detail in the description and drawings is what allows you to amend the claims during examination to overcome prior art rejections to make the claims new and non-obvious over the prior art while having them be as broad as possible. It's the specific details in the description and drawings that make a stronger patent application that is more likely to be successful in examination and that will result in the broadest claims possible in the end. For more on the parts of a patent application, including the claims, description and drawings and how they interact. Check out these videos: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZyJx5Z_ltu3Yaw.html (Parts of a Patent) kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoGix9GphLu-Zbw.html (What Are Patent Claims?) kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoGix9GphLu-Zbw.html (Patent Claims Explained)
What if the examiner misses a preexisting patent and issues a duplicate patent? So now you have a patent and some other person has a patent for the same thing. Wouldn't a patent search prevent that situation? You could invest a lot of time and money into the business/product only to realize that someone else already has the rights to what you thought was your original invention.
It's certainly possible that an Examiner misses an earlier patent, published patent application or other prior art and issues a patent that is actually invalid because it's not new and non-obvious over the prior art as required. However, just because your patent is actually invalid, even in part, does not mean that you can't successfully enforce it, derive value from it or that you would infringe the earlier patent. Similarly, you could infringe on the claims of someone's issued and enforceable patent, but that's an infringement analysis instead of a patentability analysis. Keep in mind that infringement is totally different than patentability. It seems like you might be blurring the two or mixing them up. This video explains the important differences: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5yIr7qDpLK0pLA.html Also, yes, a patent or prior art search along with patentability analysis and/or infringement analysis could theoretically help if someone else has rights. However, as discussed in detail in the video, it surprisingly does not make sense to spend the time and cost on this for the many reasons discussed in most cases. Let me know if there are specific rationale discussed in the video that don't make sense or are unclear.
I hVe an idea but who do u trust
I actually have some videos that specifically discuss this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2t5rqmucdmdk7g.html (Who Can You Trust With Your Invention Idea?) kzread.info/dash/bejne/oox5w5qRgqmwZ9I.html (Will Patent Attorneys Steal Your Idea?)
What programs do you use that you mentioned?
Given the pace of how fast AI products are evolving, I’ve switched what I’ve been using frequently to get access to the better products. I been using LLMs pretty much daily starting with ChatGPT then switched to Claude and recently switched back to ChatGPT when it upgraded. I played with image generation via DALL-E, but haven’t had the need to keep up on image generators since they don’t fit into my work or content creation at this point. I’m planning on playing with Dream Machine for video creation at some point soon - it looks pretty cool. What kind of program are you looking for or what are you looking to do?
What if I have a history degree and a masters in cs after taking courses at a community college? Will I be competitive for patent attorney jobs after law school?
Of course it unfortunately depends on where your degrees are from, but a CS masters is really going to help. To help boost your resume, consider talking the patent bar now and try to get a job or internship doing patent work while in law school. Already having some experience will really help you stand out as a candidate. This video discusses how taking the patent bar now can be helpful: When Should you Take the Patent Bar? kzread.info/dash/bejne/qGVrlsumdaeqlto.html
There is a rare record of such a dispute / litigation between UK Patent Attorney Dougal Clerk - the claimed inventor of the 2 stroke engine and a client, Lanchester - ' seems they settled and Lanchester returned as a client. Inventing and Patenting etc. is a field replete with unfortunate misunderstandings. Commercialising inventions generally requires effort and funds - most patents are not successful - not recouping their costs and its not in a patent attorneys interest to betray their clients.
Yea, the few stores I’ve heard about patent attorneys allegedly stealing ideas comes down to common complete misunderstandings. I’ve seen at least one unfortunate video like this here YT.
Who are the people who you are talking to and presenting arguments to? What is their job name called?
The folks we talk with and present arguments to at the United States Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO) are called "Patent Examiners." This video has more detail on working with them and who they are: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5eslLWmkczaiKQ.html (Working With Patent Examiners).
@@PatentsDemystified thanks bro
@808iden4 You bet. Glad to help.
Thanks
Does the clock start over when you convert over to the Non-provisional patent application?
@JJJere What do you mean by “clock start over?” If you are referring to the priority date, the non-provisional claims priority to the provisional and gets the benefit of the provisional filing date.
How much do toy charge for a 30 min phone call?
not signing NDA sounds risky doesn't it?
No, it's not risky. This video explains why NDAs with patent attorneys don't make sense: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oox5w5qRgqmwZ9I.html
I have completed my 12th grade year with science, and doing my graduation in law, am I eligible for uspto???
It depends on the specifics of your degree, course work and residency. Check out the specific requirements regarding residency and degrees here: www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/OED_GRB.pdf
Sir im an indian how can i work from home for US as patent attorney, do I have to qualify indian patent exam or UPSTO??? PLEASE HELP
It depends on the specifics of your degree, course work and residency. Check out the specific requirements regarding residency and degrees here: www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/OED_GRB.pdf
Great information
Thanks!
Thank you for the information 🙏🏻 i currently have an idea I don’t see it anywhere in the small market it’s in.. I don’t have all the funds but would it be smart to get a provisional patent on a design patent? Just so I can take a little more time to pay it all off?
It depends on the specifics of your product and business plan, but I typically suggest developing the product as much as possible and waiting to file your first patent application until just before you need to make public disclosures, public uses, or offers for sale of the technology or possibly before approaching investors. A provisional utility application is likely going be what you would be filing. Note that there is no such thing as a provisional design application (as discussed in this part of this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2Z1tdlslZSdlps.htmlsi=5-qeRfh_9rNyAJKn&t=502) and design applications are only applicable to certain products.
Why not name keyboards as inventors because they smartly convert keystrokes into a text?
I'm not sure how to even respond to something like this.
Another great video!
Thanks!
Can you disclose an invention during the patent pending state so in case it gets a secrecy order people know how it works?
Terrible advice smh... You tell 1 person you tell EVERYBODY & china don't give a damn about your patent
It’s great to see a channel like this, as there are so few patent attorneys to talk to. I’m pursuing a career as a patent attorney with a BS in Electrical Engineering. I’ll be a third-year law student in few months and plan to take the California bar. I was wondering how important it is to obtain a Master’s degree in Electrical Engineering to get hired by law firms. Also, do you have any advice for job applications? For example, should I attend specific networking events? Speaking of which, which events are worth attending? My ultimate goal is to find job opportunities, but I’d also love to make some genuine connections and relationships. I apologize for such a loaded question! Have a great day!
You should be fine with a BS in EE. It's the most in demand background for patent attorneys, so no need to go out an get a Masters. You really hit on something when you say "make some genuine connections and relationships." That's probably my biggest suggestion for folks when it comes to folks networking to find a job. Go into it with the goal of just learning more about the practice of patent law and making some genuine connections and relationships with folks, and you're going to set yourself up for success. Reach out to a bunch of patent attorneys and ask them for a quick video call to ask them for some career advice and to learn more about their practice, what being a patent attorney is like and how they got to where they are now. Some may not reply, but many will, and you'll learn a lot from these interactions with them. Make sure to connect with folks you meet on LinkedIn as well and take some time to engage with content they put out. All this can be a great way to learn about opportunities that come up and uncover insider tips on how to be viewed as a better candidate and just generally be more comfortable around patent folks, which will help you in interviews and networking. I can't say I'm aware of any specific events to go to, but there might be some out there. Honestly, I think you get better ROI from reaching out to folks individually and building relationships than going to events, but you should try out different things and see what your style is and what works for you.
@@PatentsDemystified hello. I really appreciate your thoughtful and kind response! You don't know how much your message meant to me! So thank you! I will take on your advice and try to connect on LinkedIn. I'm very lucky to find your channel. Have a great day.
Dill Adams I hope I got your name correct. You are brilliant in the advice you give. Well spoken I was hammered with thoughts. You brought me to a tunnel filled with light!!! I was in the dark...Can't wait to listen to the rest of your videos.Advice that saved me so much $$$ I give you an A+ on verbatim no words where wasted. I could go on and on." GENIUS."
Thanks! Very pleased to hear it.
What's your opinion about enhancing an already existing product. Like using another material that has more benefits. Do you call it an invention?
This can make for good products, but whether the enhancement is patentable depends on the specifics of what is being done. For example, for something to be patentable, it needs to new new and non-obvious over the prior art. The enhancement would presumably be novel (i.e., new), but would it be obvious? Specifically, would the enhancement be obvious to one of ordinary skill in the art based on all previously know prior art? Depends on the specifics. These videos have more details on the obviousness and novelty requirements of patentability along with what prior art is: Obviousness: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qICl0ch7f869Zrw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4t2uK2bcbXddZc.html Novelty: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6CupKiihKWTcco.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zpx_mbaEcqeYYbg.html Prior Art: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGeEmKispszXdLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/X22HpdxsgpnQZNY.html
These guys kept going up on the price for me more each level 😢
What do you mean by "each level"?
At invent land Davidson, i was told a certain price and after each stage it's more expensive therefore I abandon my idea
@kevinwell748 Ah, looks like this is referring to the stages of prototyping and developing an idea into a viable product and not the patenting process. Yea, product development can be surprisingly expensive.