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haha the rabbit hole of doubt , hopefully you got the full combo armstrong imagine if it wasnt the case, you will probably doubt even more like me 🤣
Thanks for your videos love your work!! I’m trying to start on a budget … My idea was to put more cash on a board and get an “old” HS1850 I’m 80kg. Do you think is doable or I’m setting up myself for failure? Thanks!!
You described my thought just in the first 60 seconds. And nice to hear your progression and tha the others comment that you nailed it .. Lately we have so many no wind days that I think hard to go down that road .. but man .. a lot of new gear especially as I have Naish foils and therefore will hae to be a mast and everything.. so I am on the point what should I think of....Thanks a lot for your video and your thoughts
IMO volume isn't as important as length and width, but volume has always been irrelevant for me because I always rode a 70L sup. Personally too much volume is hard to engage and sink into the water but I am 165lbs. For stance a modified "T" stance works very well for me. Front foot partially parallel/inline to the rail and back foot perpendicular/already in surfstance. You can use the front foot, more specifically your toes, to push the board forward and sinking it down. This is a "surge" like technic that SUP racers use. Paddling, this is something I have had to fortunate luck to setup clinics with some of the best SUP paddlers in the world and over the years learned a lot from them. Hinging at the hips, planting the paddle and keeping the form of an "A" then driving your hips forward generates a ton of power. I see a lot of people paddling with their shoulders and arms + creating splashes when your paddle enters and exits the water is inefficient. Also if your blade goes past your heels, there is no power and you are pulling yourself off the board - very inefficient. When not windy, I SUP foil my DW board to continue practicing. I know not everyone has that opportunity but if you live near waves, its such a good way to practice.
This is awesome, thanks bud! I’m pretty much using a modified T and it’s working pretty good, although my back foot has a slight angle, but using my toes to push down on the rail on that side. I’m not super versed on paddling, but I’m finally at the point where I can pay attention to it more. I was pretty into crew for 6 years so I’m really tuned into stuff like having a good clean catch, what parts of the stroke I have more power in, and efficiency in general. So I’m really into that sort of stuff. I’m stoked I’m at the point where I can pay more attention to it. And yeah, it’s been really flat and not so windy on my days off, but as soon as we get more bumps I look forward to riding more way out there. Thanks again, such an awesome comment. I wish you an awesome weekend!
you mean like this drive.google.com/file/d/1jbosZ5ahgCmxy_-PFqkeO8WDyRCaSLYP/view?usp=sharing
What an amazing video! Really appreciated it. You have such a refreshing, positive and real approach. Love your enthusiasm. You nailed every point here.
Awww thanks bud! 🙏 I really appreciate that. I wish you an awesome weekend!!
This is a perfect distillation of the process, I must work harder. Are you running your mast at 10 for paddle-ups too? Another amazingly spot on post for mere humans pursuing this goal.
yes 9-10 is where I've been gravitating to. BUT I'm using red and blue shims. due to a recent FB post seeing how many people ride their HAs farther back, I can't recommend that to everyone. but same place as I wing. try it out! if you disagree, LMK! thanks bud I wish you an awesome weekend!!
@@OCEANBOUND1 on it.
"Annoying thing once you watch one foil Drive video on KZread they just keep popping up in your feed and they're tempting you like crazy, just stay steady, don't do it, Focus you got it!" lol love this
lol I had to throw that in. I actually shot that twice, the first time I invoked the temptation of Christ and decided to dial it back. lolol. this whole video got me laughing a lot in the process, but a lot of "funny" stuff got cut. thanks for watching, I wish you ana awesome weekend!!
@@OCEANBOUND1 I would love to see the cutting room floor on this one!
Yo, this is so spot on. I got a DW board couple weeks ago. Seem to have all thoughts, emotions etc you did..I can pump, prone, Sup foil etc cant believe how hard this is, why cant i do it. I did get it on foil but cant make the transition to glide and pump. side note, I own a Gen 2 Foildrive so it is possible to go backwards.
no way!! dude you are gonna be lapping me in no time, I know your level of ripping. been a while, I take it you are up north more these days but lets shred this fall if yr around! I can imagine we could do some runs down the NH shoreline, I just bought a book of maps and have been looking the coastline over. hope all is well bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!
Thanks for sharing your experience. I probably will start the journey soon. Good to set a realistic expectation and to put lots of persistence to make it happen. (I am 65kg with Duotone DW Air 105 and F one Jam 1600 coming)
sweet bud! it's def fun and gets me stoked, it just comes a little slower but the rewards feel better when you put a lot of work in. setup sounds good! LMK yr progress, and feel free to reach out with any questions! no pro but love talking about it :) I wish you an awesome weekend!
That was sooo much fun to watch! Thank you. This is exactly the journey I went trough the last year! Each and every step (and rabbit hole). I was smiling through the entire video. One thing though - with your technique you should be able to do 5-10km dw runs easily. "Forget" flat water paddle ups. Concentrate on the "bumpy" paddle ups. In the amazing James Casey course that is one of the main messages: you dont need to be able to flat water paddle up - at all! you need to be able to get up in the bumps. From there you just do what you do when you flag out winging. Cheers
hahaha great to hear! in the process of making this, I def had a few doubts if anyone would even get this. and yeah, I'm ready to paddle in the bumpy stuff. it's just happened to be completely flat around here in the past month or more, so I'm just paddling on days that are flat cause that's when I have time to be out there. I def get what Casey says, but I'm still making progress on flat so I def don;t beleive it's wasted. I'm really really really hoping for a good fall. so stoked to be out there more! thanks again bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!!
Love the positivity Jeremy! Love the work ethic too! So impressive, so inspiring! As frustrating as it was seeing your progression move faster than mine, you helped me stay committed (even after buying the evil FD 😉). And now I'm finally paddling up in the local small wind swell bumps pretty consistently. 💪
woot woot! I'm stoked for you, glad to hear you stuck with it! I may have seemed like I was progression fast but I had so many sessions ahead of you. my bump reading game is still close to zero so I'll be asking for advice soon enough! can't wait for the next dw day. have a great weekend bud!!
Really good review, agree with everything you said, just sold my 1675 after I got my 1350, which I love. I had much less hate towards the 1675, but I am pushing 200 lbs. so maybe that helped? I actually kinda liked the 1675, until the 1350.Picking up my 7m CWC tomorrow, replacing my V3 8m, pretty stoked, rode a buddies and the weight and handling felt like a 6m but with as much power has my old 8. Anyway, you have the best site going for information and reviews, greatly appreciated!
awww thanks so much bud! I suppose I've been unnecessarily hard on the 1675, as I alluded to in this video, I struggled with the 1675 for a long time, and I'm sure that a lot of that was technique and not enough time on it. but the 1350 is indeed better in turning, speed, I even prefer the pump... so it's easy to kick that 1675 to the curb. def would still recommend it to people starting out. And stoked about the CWC!! FOne just sent me a 6m CWC with hard handles and I took it out on one sesh and I loved it. def recommend the hard handles for the big ones. I hope you love it, so much better than the v3 IMO! thanks again, I wish you an awesome weekend bud!
@@OCEANBOUND1 I got a set of the hard handles, can use it on my new 5m strike and the cwc, stoked to try it!
@@rocketmarket684 I wasn’t sure if the handles would be good, but I think they are great. I love the micro-ridge down the back side. Like the new PPC I got. Lmk what you think!
Nice pumping achievement! I’ve tested the 202 and the 220 for pumping with the 1675 and chose the glide tail eventually. Try to do 2-3 quick pumps and then let it glide in order to stay aerobic
I def need to let go and let the glide do it's thing. I think from using not-so-great pumpers in the last few years it's burned in my head that my stuff just wont glide. great reminder, thanks bud! I wish you an awesome weekend!
Thanks!
DUDE! you are amazing. thanks bud, humbled, truly appreciated.
I’m into ISUP so this review was somewhat relevant and I liked the way it is presented. I’ve been checking around and this pump seems to have one of the larger (claimed) battery capacity which is worth considering if you need to inflate multiple boards.
sweet, thanks for watching! I don't do a lot of SUPs, mostly wings and the occasional kite. it can easily do 4 wings and possibly more depending on the situation... so I'm still using it from time to time, no issues!
another great video thx so much for your amazing tips and wow guest star the ventis beast ahhah legend you are have a great week and thx for keeping me inspired too
lol thanks so much bud! the Ventis LIVES!! it was actually really really nice to use it. I haven't been tempted to use it in the last 9 mo cause of the dw board and the foils, but I certainly do enjoy riding it! hope all is well, I wish you an awesome weekend!
Great review. Thanks. Middle of summer in Virginia and wind is low often. If you had to pick just the 1350 or the HA 1180, which one is more stable in the turns and what is the low end of both? Thanks
sup bud! sorry I guess I missed this comment. I'd personally pick the 1180, but the 1350 will have a little better low end. the turning is a little different, in ways I think the 1180 acts like a more normal foil, so that feel better to me turning but stability-wise the 1350 is pretty damn solid! LMK what you end up getting!! thanks and I wish you an awesome weekend!
I also have a couple curved foils which come up easy but have little feedback from pumping vs my flatter ones.
Yeah all the new HAs have a little bit of it and it def helps for pumping. Luckily that means you can do smaller sizes so they are more fun to turn. What do you ride? Axis?
@OCEANBOUND1 I use North foils. Not on the newest generation, but I think they are great. Good value.
@@pheelers1831 right on! doesn't matter what you ride as long as you like it!! I wish you an awesome day!
J Man. Great content. Loving the objectivity. Gotta say my low end go to is the 980/180 with a 5m XPS, agreeing with @Stefan-foil. This works for me down to about 10 kts. Keep it coming & stay frosty. 🌊🏄🏽♀️
thank you my awesome monkey friend. yeah the fact I have an 1180 is more for paddling but it's nice using it! otherwise I tend to think of my 880 as my light wind foil. if I need the 1180 or 1350 to wing, at this point I'd prolly rather be paddling!
Spot on agree my 1600 is big and slower but at my weight amazing in a wave and easy to turn and mt 1300 is as you say more dynamic and fun . Great share loved the one handed ✋️ lets go . Have a great week mate speak soon 👍 😊😊
Woot woot thanks bud! The one handed thing made my freakin day!! The little things… lol. Makes that 7m more appealing, also makes Duotone handles or booms more appealing in general. Hope all is well bud. Pretty damn flat over here but we are still having fun. I wish you an awesome weekend ahead!!
@OCEANBOUND1 flat here as well. we are away on a surf trip at Cresswell towers Northumberland 🏰 stunning wild camping ,wing ,Sup and fishing . Have a great week, and speak soon .
@@christomo no waayyy! enjoy bud! can't wait to hear about it!
Tacking the 1675 feels like slo mo catching an edge on a snowboard, wonder how much it would wake up if you cut off those folded wing tips? Yes scp- 755 is fast loose, 1180 easy rider. Good video thanks OB
Thanks bud I appreciate it! And yeah the 1675 isn’t bad but I’m growing out of it and that 1350 makes everything more fun. Stoked. The 755… I gotta get there. I will justify it once I start doing more DW runs. Appreciate it, I wish you an awesome week ahead!!
Thanks Will be buying the 1350 Well done. 👍 best reviews on the internet. Armstrong should be PAYING YOU because I recommend the gear, and it’s your feedback that has me pinpoint per rider.
haha thanks bud! you should have zero regrets with the 1350! I' love that foil! LMK what you think when you get it. hope all is well, I wish you an awesome weekend!
Glad to hear you didn’t disrespect the Ventis too much. Although you were vindicated at the end. You are the primary reason I bought one. Not sorry I did even though I almost never bring it out. But when you want to go winging and there is almost no wind, you better have something like the Ventis in your quiver. So far, no interest in flat water paddle up. Looks like way too much effort for the reward. Always entertaining Jeremy. Thanks for taking us along.
Hahaha yeah no disrespect on the Ventis here! I don’t dislike it at all, I just haven’t had a need for it lately after I got the DW board and have been focusing more on that and newer HA foils. I was thinking about selling it in the last month but after this recent sesh, I reckon it stays! Glad yr digging it too! And no worries about the paddle ups… def not for everyone. I have this spot down the street from my house that is perfect for it, and it’s a total workout. So I’m hooked but I totally see how most will have no interest putting their mind and body through these efforts. It totally sucks until it gets better 😂 going deep right there. I hope all is well and I wish you an awesome day!
Great work as usual! Sweet to hear you break down big foils. I was foil driving and pumping Phil’s 1900 Jam yesterday and today. For a moment I hit the pumping sweet spot and could finally get why people do it. 😀
Thanks bud! I gotta try that Jam. It’s on my short list for sure, and I totally wonder if it comes close to any of the foils I’ve been using. Let’s ride soon!
Perfect review!!! I’m winging the APF 1675 and at 85 kg is nice only in flat and till 14/15 knots but as you said turning is bad. Thank you for the advice about the HA 1180 that will be my next purchase 😉
Sweet bud I’m glad you dug it! You should have no issues with the 1180, it’s a great foil. LMK if you get it what you think! Thanks and I wish you an awesome day!
Time to try a DWP755! :D
Oh dude I totally want to try one! I’ll try to reach out and see if they would send me one to demo. Have you tried the other sizes or just the 755?
The timing of this video could not be more perfect, I litterally just unboxed my 1180! I thought it would be a good next step after my beginner HS1850 and now I can't wait to get out to try it. SO HYPED!!!
Oh dude, yr gonna be stoked! Should be a huge improvement over the 1850 you know. LMK what you think!! Yr gonna want a smaller one like the 780. Enjoy, and I wish you an awesome day!
@@OCEANBOUND1 Eventually I will definitely add smaller ones as well, just have to save the peanuts for em :P
And I thought my biggest foil HA980 has crazy low-end. I also argument with that and a DW board you don’t need bigger than a 5,5 or 6,0 meter wing. If the wing has a good low end. I bigger wing has more drag, I did a back to back test anyway and is what I figured
sup bud! yeah I think of the 1180 more of a surf and paddle foil, and my 880 is more my light wind foil. I can get out in less with the 1180, but I'm really not super into going out in wind that low. 13-14 is my cutoff these days, otherwise I'll paddle. I def agree with the wing size as well. that's why I haven't used that 7m Ventis in 9 months, the dw board and a HA foil make smaller 5m sizes work. this was my second attempt at doing speed trials on these foils, it's it's really hard to do speed runs and push limits when you are kinda underpowered. so that's why I brought the 7m to push speed, and I'm glad I did! thanks bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!
@@OCEANBOUND1Hope you have a great weekend as well. Yes it makes sense to use a big wing to push speed, and it is always interesting hearing your views and the reason I follow your channel
Best channel, hey there stef. What an awesome assessment of the 1350. Holy smokes. That is the combo 780 above 12…1350 below 😝 and pair with the new 100 Armie mid length for ALL (85kg rider) 🎉
@@Stefan-Foil thanks bud! truly appreciated.
I have not tried the new X series yet. Probably testing it here soon.
right on, it's definitely nice. If I were all FOne I'd def have one or two in the quiver.
Great stuff. It's refreshing for a reviewer to straight talk on gear performance. So many reviewers/sponsored rider "reviews" are just promotional garbage. Thanks for keeping it real!
awww thanks so much bud! I like to think I'm keeping it real :P I wish you an awesome weekend!!
Great break down, enjoyed it, thanks! Just swapped the 1675 for the 1350 and I agree on your points. I also feel that the PM795 is not stiff enough to really handle the bigger APF for me at 172lbs/78kg, especially with the 202 tail or in turbulent water. And I’m also amazed by the different sections along the span of the 1350, it seems very sophisticated and an evolution of the first two APFs. I wonder if I can pump longer distance and/or time with the 1350? What do you think?
awesome, thank YOU! interesting you don't think of the 795 as stiff enough. I haven't experienced that but I'll totally try to notice if I can feel that in my next sessions. totally agreed, the evolution is real. the 1350 is kinda it's own thing, with characteristics of both it's the bigger APF siblings and HA cousins. I totally think I can pump it better, mostly cause the 1675 is so awkward that I tend to make a mistake on it, where the 1350 is a little more natural and as I get more tuned to it I think things will be easier to keep the pump going. looking pretty flat in the next week or so around here so there will be lots of paddling. thanks bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!
Great review. After riding the SK8 850 here in the gorge, the eagle 890 and the Eagle 790. I sold all my Armstrong foils. I had a HA925, MA 1000 and all the new HA780&HA880. F-ones are faster and the SK8 is more fun in swell. Finally they don’t “misbehave” at all! Kudos F-one, Note: I prefer the 85cm mast, who’s they offered a 90cm, 95 is a bit long.
sweet to hear you are preferring the FOne gear! I def could be happy riding their stuff, I'm just so heavily invested in Armstrong that it's hard to jump over. I have more FOne stuff coming soon! I think I'm going to get to try the EagleX 1000 and the Eagle 1190... so stoked to try the bigger sizes! I loved that EagleX 700 for winging. have you tried one?
Looks like fun! The GoPro has the wide angle lens so I know exactly what you mean, when you say it affects the size of the wave in video footage. However, I see your friends in the background next to the waves, I can tell it was a huuuuge day! It looks awesome. One option for you is to use a mount that pushes the gopro away from you with a long extender arm that allows you to toggle down the POV from super wide to wide or even to linear. Or try attaching the gopro to your wing's nose or tail somehow.
Totally! Have you tried the insta360?
@@OCEANBOUND1 no but I have seen footage and it is amazing. One question I have is how much memory do the files use.
Super helpful Jeremy, got my 1350 a month ago and love it! I have all those tails as well and thanks for confirming what I was feeling. 202 tail for pumping is definitely the winner although it still feels like 10 years away for success in the flatwater paddle up, but you're right, incredible work out and very valuable time spent, not just a party trick. I also love the 1350/220 for riding swell (in the gorge) with a wing, instant 50% improvement in my ability in that discipline.Thanks Jeremy another really helpful video!
awesome bud! I'm def into the 202 now, but I needed to use the 220 for a while to get to the point where the 202 got unlocked. lol. but def good once you are up and pumping. I think they developed it for dock starting and the apf so maybe it's more for flatwater party tricks but it's def nice and easy when practicing the leg pumping!
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LOVE this. seems like the mantra of my life, whether I've chosen it or not. but I dig. loving the challenge, both physical and mental. thanks and I wish you an awesome day!!
Did you try to winging with this APF?
no not yet. I was going to yesterday but decided to use the 880 instead. I'm going to do some speed tests with it in the next week or so, maybe that'll be my next video. the 1675 was annoying for me so I'm hoping this one feels better to wing with! thanks bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!
JMan I was tired watching you!!! Great effort & awesome content, as always..🤘🏽🌊🏄🏽♀️
lol. thanks so much bud!!
Coming on nicely my man it's funny how you think you start to understand how foils work then I always seem to find a whole new rabbit hole to go down. Always learning. Great informative film thanks buddy 👍. Have a good week
thanks Chris! and the rabbit hole keeps going!!! I love it. this one is so similar to back when we started winging, but a little more patience was required, at least for me. good times, lol. I wish you and your crew and amazing weekend bud! I hope y'all are getting some wind!
Hey Jeremy! Are you using the red shim with the pump 202? And where in the tracks are you setting your mast for flat water paddle ups? Thanks!!
woot woot! :P
@@OCEANBOUND1 hey Jeremy did I miss the reply to this?
@@rocketmarket684 yeah it was a double post, I responded in the other one as such: sup bud! I'm using a read and blue shim for all my stabs. every time I dial it back I get annoyed with the drag. I'm putting my new HAs and the APFs at 10 in the mast track. the HS and the MA I would put at 8, so it's a little more forward. that's what's worked for me, I've done a ton of micro adjustments from sesh to sesh and still come back to 10 with a happy face. hope this helps! I wish you an awesome day!!
@@OCEANBOUND1 wow, furthest I've pushed it is to 6, you're a maniac!
Hey Jeremy! Did you have the red shim on the pump 202? And where in the tracks are you setting your mast for paddle ups? Thanks!!
sup bud! I'm using a read and blue shim for all my stabs. every time I dial it back I get annoyed with the drag. I'm putting my new HAs and the APFs at 10 in the mast track. the HS and the MA I would put at 8, so it's a little more forward. that's what's worked for me, I've done a ton of micro adjustments from sesh to sesh and still come back to 10 with a happy face. hope this helps! I wish you an awesome day!!
Dude, awesome job on the paddle ups and pumping progression. It's really relevant to me right now, I've got flat water out my window and have made the initial steps but having never been a SUP guy I've got a long ways to go yet. Super interesting hearing your opinions on the tails, I've got the 180 and 220 and have been wondering if there is a better choice. I'm currently failing with the 1675 and 220 but I know it's not the foil/stab, I can barely stand on my 100L. I just need to put in the time. The 1350 is awesome in light wind, definitely a lot quicker than the 1675 but still gets up and going in almost nothing. I've been having a ton of fun sailing it, can't wait to see what you do with it and how it works for you. Thanks for the inspiration!
sup bud! good to hear you are moving in this direction! it's a trip, and I'm starting to really get addicted to the physical challenge of it all. so if anything, the one thing I hope to impart on people new to this is that it takes time and lots of effort, progress is slow and can be frustrating but just look for the little wins everywhere. you need to build stamina, power, speed and technique... it all takes time and won't come over night. you are lucky you have flatwater so close to home! every 20 min paddle sesh is worth it. as far as the stab goes, I think you are good with the 220! I did start to see a difference when I started using that, right as I was starting to get up on foil. the 202 seems to be better for me NOW that I'm up and pumping, but it frustrated me a ways back. I paddled the 180 again yesterday and I def prefer the 220 or 202 over that on the flat water, but mostly cause the pumping is just a little faster on the 180 and it's nice to have a slightly slower cadence. as long as you have it, I'd stick to the 1675 until you start to lift, and the 1350 just needs and extra paddle or two more. I haven't winged the 1350 yet, I almost did yesterday. I will soon, I'm interested to see how fast I can get it to go. keep me in the loop on your progress! I wish you an awesome weekend!
Does the 202 lift earlier at lower speed? Do you think it would a good beginner tail for my wife who is working to get her first on-foil flights with a hand-wing on my DW board?
Great video, just starting on my paddle up journey. Havent got a 1675 just yet, will have to start off with my MA1750 in learning to paddle. I'll put the APF1350 on my christmas wishlist😊 Kia Ora from New Zealand 😊
sup bud! and thanks! the 1675 was a great start for me. my friend is a little bigger and got the 1880 and that worked well for him, but def go 1675 unless you are a big dude. the 1350 could prolly be your first but will def be a little harder. LMK when you get that 1675 and start the paddle process! it's exciting and frustrating like winging! lol. thanks and I wish you an awesome weekend!
I wonder how the new HA 1180 would compare? I debate between it and the 1350 for super light downwinding
so I've used the 1180 maybe 10 times surfing and winging, and I've tried three times to paddle it up - twice on the flat and once on a cray day in bumps that were not steep enough. my technique is getting better, and I'm looking forward to the day I can paddle that up and make it work. I've been saying "I can't wait to get rid of the 1675" so I've been trying hard to dial everything in on that in hopes that I can soon unlock the 1180. then the 1350 comes in, it sits right in the middle, where I just happen to be progression-wise. so once up, the 1180 is great. good pumper, good glide, and decent turning for it's size. the 1350 is a great pumper and glider, turning is the sacrifice. so if you are using a wing, I'd say 1180. but if paddling, and still kinda new to that, the 1350 is great. I hope that helps. LMK what you end up getting!
@@OCEANBOUND1 Cool thanks for the details. Still leaning 1180 I think. I'm only 68kg (so it should be a little easier for me than it would be for you), and my technique is half decent (I can downwind the cabrinha 1050 but just barely (I eventually make a mistake and never connect more than 2-3 minutes at a time)) Just looking for something that has better lowend than that cabrinha 1050... just hard to say if its enough for me to flatwater start. I totally agree with you that regardless that if its a party trick or not, its still great training for the legs and to dial in pump technique, so flatwater startability is a must for me.
@@ericfernand yeah I certainly aspire to paddle it up… I will some day!! Getting close, been a month since I tried. If you get the 1180 you will use it. You can always add the 1350 after if you are frustrated. LMK what you get and what you think!!
Hi Jeremy your videos never disappoint . Would you have any advise I have been wing foiling for over a year on Armstrong ma foils find all great kit but find pitch control hard . I have a 70 fuselage 235 stab . I put a blue shim in that made it 5% better but still up and down and breach a lot . Should I put the mast from centre more forward so I have more pressure on front foot . Help
sup bud! interesting you find pitch control an issue with the 70 fuse. I've only tried one once and it was a waaaay smoother ride, slower to turn and seemed more stable as far as pitch goes. so it seems like something else going on here, but shims on the 70 could be a lot different than the 60 I ride. less shim should stabilize it and point your nose a little more down. I guess let me ask you... what board are you on? where are you in the mast track now? and is breaching your main problem? also, have you tried other foils or only Armstrong MAs?
@@OCEANBOUND1 hi thanks for getting back to me , I have a gong KUBE 95ltrs 4’6” think it is a freestyle board with feet on forward strap position , mast in centre . I have a Armstrong ha 1850 foil that is slightly more stable . Breaching has been my main problem had some real heavy crashes . I think it is me not the kit it feels like I am on a balance board and after a few minutes it just hard work . I was told at the beach two weeks ago put the fuselage forward so I have more pressure on my front leg felt better but was 3.5 weather , last week I went out 6 Mtr was all over the place . I might go out a few more times then think about a lesson I am out of ideas .
This is another interesting video from you. I have to say that to me, this is a confirmation that too much aspect ratio spoils the fun. It was interesting to hear and see you comparing the HA and the SK8 because I've been comparing my own latest creation to the SK8 and my creation before that to the new Armstrong starter foil. But when I looked at even the thin SK8 tip thickness clearly shown in your comparison, my wingtips are not only so much thinner, but so much pointier. Really, I would not like to be sliced by my own foil. And then I looked the thick tips of your thick HA chopped Armstrong HA and I thought "Oh no!..." and I wasn't at all surpried to hear you liked the better agility, but I was surprised that you didn't express any view on the feel of less area and the loss of the small tip flex. But then you described others raves about their own chop experiences and I thought that maybe I understood the psychology of your own positivity about the experience! My reckoning is that wingtips are about wingtip vortices control and the rest of the foil is about drag vs stall speed compromises. Now I am moulding my second copy of my latest design, waiting for the slow cure epoxy, a slightly more accurate moulding process closer to my actual design and I can't wait for spring and after work sessions again but I'm not sure what can be my next design challenge because I like my last two designs so much already. I have contemplated my own range including fuselage too but the day job brings in the money and to go commercial is not really my skill set, I am much better at designing in many fields than at the repetetive nature of running a business.
sup bud! glad yr digging this one too! I do think wingtips have a lot to do with the ride, because things can vary a lot from shape to shape. but thickness and flex have a lot to do with it as well. lots of people are gravitating to thinner, more efficient foils these days. I take it they are trying to make them as stiff as possible, but thin means more flex. I like it, it's springy. and the higher aspect ratio, the more flex you will probably see. thinner and higher aspect ratio isn't always a bad thing. the new EagleX or like the Code foils are great examples of high aspect rations that can still turn and perform. but you do kind of learn after a while ways to make specific foils turn better... so I do think a lot comes down to skill. and you mention drag vs stall seed compromises and whatnot... it's been pretty interesting to see what companies have been evolving to in the past year or so. Armstrong has the new HAs which are much flatter in the middle, that's glide and pump, and the wingtips then are angles down more farther out, but that still gives it a nice turn and a little more stability. they have maximized everything (you didn't mention camber, but that's a big change to theirs) that their foils do except it took some speed out of the top end. I tried hard to push the speed on my 580 yesterday and only got it to 25mph, where my MA800 has no camber and I can get it to go faster. man this stuff is so interesting. I'm jealous you are making foils... that's the ultimate learning experience right there. people like me, just have to try and tune in to as many foils as possible to study their habits. i love a good challenge. hope all is well bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!
@@OCEANBOUND1 Thanks, Looks Like I have to wait at least another week for wind but every morning it's a little lighter. Meanwhile my annoyance at not getting out on the water converts to curiosity about what else I can make. I have a very small under camber concave on some of my wings but I usually fair it out with filler on the 3D printed models before I get around to making moulds off them. Anyway, designing can be part of the experience, very nice to ride my own gear but I have nothing on your level of skill wingsurfing and you set an example for a large proportion of us foilers that pushes all of us a bit more.
@@fluiditynz aww well thanks for those words!! I’m finding all the work going into paddling very rewarding… days when it’s blowing 14 I’d rather be out paddling unless there were waves. So you could always make a pump foil! Teehee. Thanks bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!
What's your weight? I am 19bs and considering the 85ML for winging only but I fear it will get too long at 6.5. Can't get smaller as we only have light winds.
Sup bud! I’m 77kg or just under 170lbs. The 75 is a great size for me. It is about a foot longer than my v1FG board but it doesn’t feel too long. I think mine is 6’1? No regrets here, I love it.
Nice pass tacks Dude ! I Think your RC surfer needs a mini wing , micro OCEANBOUND Tee shirt and a gopro vid
yes!!! I just acquired it, tanks to my buddy Dylan. it already has a gopro mount on it. I'll see if we can get him all branded up and will take him out soon :P
880 and dart are so smooooth
So smooth! I love riding chop and small waves with it, it does it all!
@OCEANBOUND1 qq: all tbinfs being equal, if you were going to get one of these SK8s as a daily driver, knowing youd be in some big swell occasionally, do you think the 850 is the size you'd go with?
that's a tough question, but for me I'd say the 850. it seems to go fast enough to keep up with groundswell, still turns and carves beautifully. I know that 750 would be totally awesome but there would be some days where it'd feel kinda small. my friend bought a 750 as his one sk8 and he doesn't use it as much as he thought. I think if he got the 850 he would be out on it more. if all goes well, I should have the 1150 to demo in the next month, stay tuned!
@@OCEANBOUND1 thanks man! Keep up the awesome videos and stay stoked!