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Great review and video, you deserve more subs and views. Keep doing what you do.
looks a lot of fun
Seems like the frame would be specific to the 450 and 250
Got mine in June 2024 fantastic bike
All that cost just to try and beat a STANDARD YZ what a laugh
So excited for this bike!
I'm good at 2022 for now, must say the 24' is the more aesthetic bike.
Good video. Great tips. Thank you👌🏾
2022 Ktm450sxf and I rode it in aggressive map for the first 6 months and when I switched to mellow for shits and giggles I almost shit myself with how stupid I felt running the aggressive map. Having that kind of control and comfort over the bike was a game changer I could push it harder and felt like it never had a fall off point where I needed to shift it just kept pulling and pulling. Nothing better than having the power of the 450 but with all the management that comes with mellowing out the bike.
Nice work. Much appreciated.
I had a test ride today. This is an incredible bike, very easy to control and fun to ride!
I love it when people talk about suspension and have no idea what's inside a fork or shock. There hasn't been any leaps in suspension. The 07 is just a different motorcycle. In addition zero mention of the type of tires. I do like the look of the new gsxr...not so busy.
where do you stand on suspension settings ? Reason I ask is I have a 450 as well, 2024. weight 165 w/o gear and I am feeling the suspension very soft. I am 10 clicks out on forks for compression and on shock 1 turn out on HSC and 10 clicks out on LSC
thanks for the question. The suspension on this bike is inherently softer feeling. The forks were redesigned to decrease friction through the stroke, which allows the suspension to work a little more freely. As for clicker settings I believe I was a couple clicks stiffer on fork suspension. Also you might want to try speeding up your fork rebound. It will help the forks stay more planted through rough stuff. For the rear be sure to check your sag, I am 160lbs without gear and I was happy at 102. Try to go 1 or 2 clicks in on LSC and set your rebound to 9-10 clicks out.
@@ultimatemotorcycling Thanks a lot. Will make sure to try this!
10000 for a parallel twin heck no I won't be buying no bike like that
Seen this bike in the iomTT a few years ago i grew up with all 2 strokes in the 90s sexy sound :)
Wait your turn you 2 wheel asshats
I saw u didn’t like the lack of low end power. There’s a rubber plug between the battery & air box. Take it out! I think Kawie is trying to hit new emissions & sound requirements so they restricted the air flow to make the bike a little more quiet. Get rid of that rubber plug. U can also make some holes in the air box to give better flow. I think everyone that bought one has done it. That’s where that missing power went. The engine wants to breathe and make a little more noise… that’s all.
That's true, there is a rubber plug but it was taken out by Kawasaki before our testing began. Holes in the airbox and an upgraded exhaust system will definitely help the KX450 breath a little better. However, we must admit that smooth low end power is not a bad thing. It helps with controllability and can help reduce rider fatigue. Overall the 2024 KX450 is a very rider friendly bike.
@@ultimatemotorcycling yeah. Usable power is more important than just plain power.
Thanks man this bike Will be perfect to my im a 250 c class rider
Think you missed the point from what I could tell he loved the smooth power and your telling him how to get more out of it 😂
@@nathancrittenden8525 watch it again. I could have sworn that there were some parts of the curve that he wanted more power
Off the bat I noticed new disk brake rotors front/back. Previous gen has huge ones. just wish they up the hp to58-60hp
You are correct. This new gen KX450 has a 270mm front disc paired with a Brembo caliper and master cylinder and a 240mm rear disc gripped by a Nissin caliper.
No amateur rider in the world needs 60 horsepower a lot of pros even moan it's too powerful. I think this bike is for the masses and it's about time
Anyone know what the symbol next to the fuel tank means please? The circle with the line through it
What a mania for putting music to everything; here we want to hear the sound of the engine!! Thank you very much for this video WITHOUT THE STUPID MUSIC!!
How restrictive is the turning circle for turns please ?
Hi Michael, It's fairly average. I wouldn't describe it as a narrow going from lock-to-lock.
Got mine 1w ago. So far, very excited. Not a daily commuter bike, but yes now that the sun is shining here in Vancouver I want to ride it to work daily 😂
Thanks for your video, very helpful. 👍
You've not told us how to do anything. What the hell?
what tyre size you have on that one? are they 120/70 & 160/60 r17? .Because stock has 110/70 & 150/60 r17. And if we get one is it possible we can add one more dics brake at the front wheel?
Hi Vardanchaudharyworld, We ran stock sizing, but they were Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP V4 tires, which we mentioned in the story, but I just wanted to reiterate. I don't believe the front wheel would accept a 120/70 in place of a 110/70, so that's most likely not a possibility. Also, no, you would not be able to add a second brake disc without heavy modifications. You'd need a wheel that could accept a second rotor, then you'd also need to replace the lower fork stanchion to accept an additional brake caliper, and finally, rework all of the brake hoses. It'd be impractical for the application. The RS 457 brakes are more than adequate within their context and if an owner wanted to take things further, they could follow the same route by Ninja 400/R3 racers that have simply upgraded their master cylinder. Your master cylinder dictates braking performance more than any other component in that chain. Take care! - Nic
I got the idea now. Thank you so much for the response.
I ride San Diego to riverside during Friday traffic, just to get gas and lane share for an hour straight. Great video. I would add a few points. 1. I do way less passing when the freeway bends. Drivers can’t see you as well in the curves. 2. Always look before taking the share lane. It happens too often, I see a rider heading towards my lane, and then straight in without a look. Like their the only one in the world. 3. The worst is being stuck behind some side boxes. If you’re running side boxes, just know, the rest of us want to pass you 4. Interstate 15 is a great lane sharing freeway. the commute traffic is Intelligent and have been trained by riders, however the 15 on a Saturday and Sunday is full of travelers. Not as aware and much more dangerous. Lane sharing is a Zen moment. Nothing quite like it. it’s absolutely the best thing about California.
For QS, Mines set too off, purchased it that way. When i try an turn it on, it flashes for a second then nothing, any idea?
I own the 800 three cylinder and the 1090 four-cylinder and all I can say or ask is “why is no reviewer telling everybody that the three cylinder models sound like a piece of crap and you will be really regretting having bought it with that horrible sound in your ears and the pipes are too beautiful to change for aftermarket that would destroy the art of their motorcycle, you’re just going to regret it. I know because I have both the 800 and the 1090 models. And the four cylinder is the one to buy and I don’t know why MV Augusta are making these horrible sounding three cylinder bikes are the length and the height of a dwarf, and which leave you with completely tired shoulders after half an hour riding, and want you to drive at 12,000 RPM even if you’re doing 20 km an hour behind a very slow school bus in the city. Those 800s and all of the three cylinder models except for the thousand CC models, are a pain in the ass. perhaps there for 20-year-old millennials, but I’m a 58-year-old biker who is doing everything from scramblers and motocross to Harley Davidson, choppers, adventure, bikes, straight, naked, and superbikes, like this one in question, … As I said, I own two of these bikes, 800 and 1090, and I’m selling the 800 cc… not because of the engine size, but because of the intolerable sound of the triple cylinder ceramic coated exhaust which looks beautiful but sounds absolutely horrible. I can’t even ride it for five minutes without going home because it’s getting on my nerves.
1969 Norton 750 fastback. Smoothest and best handling bike. I have owned numerous Vintage Triumphs, Suzuki's, Kawasaki's, Honda's, and more nothing was as smooth as the Norton, nothing has ever handled as well either. Just a very classic beautiful looking and sounding bike.
Rossi made 46 special...
So I’m seriously considering selling my Motoguzzi to jump on a Tracer GT Plus. What do you think?
Hey @Guzzikos970, That's a tough question. It looks like you own either a V7 or a V9, which is definitely a whole different animal than a sport-touring bike like the Tracer 9 GT+. Is there a possibility you could keep the V7 for local cruises? That's genuinely one of my favorite standard/cruiser bikes because it has such a distinct personality when compared to the market at large. Meanwhile, the Yamaha could handle longer rides much better, offer far more advanced features, performance, and carrying capacity. A bike in that class will definitely open doors for your riding in terms of where you'll want to go. While I see the Yamaha as one of the best values in class, habe you considered the V100 Mandello or Stelvio? Those have the Guzzi charm with modern amenities. Take care! - Nic
@@ultimatemotorcycling much appreciated on the detailed answer bro. I get your point, and I do agree that my v7 and the GT+ are different obviously, and I still have doubts of selling vs keeping. It’s a centenario edition and it’s only one out of 750 made for 100 years of MotoGuzzi so damn hard decision to make. But on the other hand I want to make longer trips and I am impressed by Yamaha. So I either will have to get kicked out by my girlfriend if I keep the Guzzi and buy a Tracer, or I have to teach her to ride as well.
@@newmanexplorer I'd go with the latter 🫡 The Moto Guzzi and Yamaha simply do very different things in very different ways. I'd boil it down to what you need right now: If longer trips are on the horizon, go with the Yamaha. If not, the V7 will always be fun. Take care! - Nic
Great review, thanks!
I am interested in comparing the new Ninja 500 with the Aprilia. I ended up buying a Ninja because of concerns over parts, maintenance and comfort over long distances. But I'm wondering if I made the right choice, or if perhaps an Aprilia will be in my future once I try my hand at racing around a track with the Ninja.
Hi Sam, We're definitely interested in doing a comparison between the Aprilia RS 457 and Kawasaki Ninja 500 as they approach the lightweight class with drastically different strengths. Let's address your first question: You definitely shouldn't regret your purchase. Speaking personally, I have a lot of experience with the Ninja 400 (which is quite similar to the 500), racing one for a few years. The critical difference between the Aprilia and Kawasaki is the performance ceiling that each bike achieves. The RS 457 chassis is significantly stiffer, as is its suspension, and creates a bike that feels more mature than what we'd normally see in the lightweight category. Meanwhile, the 457cc engine and its 270-degree crank design make it quite engaging, though the class is fairly close in terms of peak performance numbers. Meanwhile, the Ninja 400 and 500 (they share a chassis) are softer overall, with the chassis itself taking a much more street-oriented approach that prioritizes comfort. Considering Ninja 400/500 may be purchasing their first bike, having something with complaint suspension that absorbs bumps easily, and doesn't feel as racetrack oriented is good, considering newer riders will not be pushing their bikes as hard or requiring the same kind of chassis stiffness until they gain experience or skill. Any first bike is a good bike. So, an Aprilia RS 457 would definitely be more suitable for a newer rider that's interested in trackdays or generally more aggressive riding, that doesn't make the Ninja a bad choice at all. It simply doesn't achieve the same performance ceiling as the Aprilia. However, remember you're just starting out and beginning your career on a bike like the Ninja is a great choice. Even more, you've made a calculated decision based on dealer access, parts, etc., which is an important consideration: Buyers may not have immediate access to dealers for a variety of brands and that can create challenges during ownership. That said, once you've gained some confidence over a couple of seasons, you can bump up to a larger displacement bike. For example, something like the Aprilia RS 660, which the RS 457 chassis is directly based on. Hope this helps! - Nic
@@ultimatemotorcycling this was a great answer I appreciate you!
@@levelupwithsam Of course! I'm happy to help! Don't be afraid to take the Ninja to your first trackday, either. I got my race license on a Ninja 400 with stock suspension (just swapped out to stickier tires, did rear sets/clip-on riser handlebars). When you're first learning, you don't need much to get going and understanding the limits of things like suspension or brakes is good to know, so that you can appreciate higher-spec equipment. You've got a fun bike! Learn on it, enjoy it, take care of it, and when it's time to bump up, you'll have tons of awesome middleweights waiting. Take care! - Nic
In my country ninja costs way more than rs457, Aprilia costs £4100 whereas ninja 500 cost more than 5500, so It don't make sense, if ninja is cheaper in your country and you're more concerned with comfort only then one should go for ninja
Price of rs 457 in India is around 4,900 dollar....bang!! pre Booking of this byk is so high here....Delivery tym iz 3 month.
yep, how much is in you country?
Nice riding, good review mate
Great video. I've always wanted to try trials. Looks like so much fun
I took one for a test ride a few days ago, and I have mixed feelings. I LOVE the leg geometry, both on peg and in relation to the ground. It’s almost enough to get me to buy one. The engine, though. It’s buzzy, enough that I wouldn’t be able to ride it any distance at all. It has great electronics, good power, good brakes. I cannot buy a bike that’s going to leave my feet and hands tingling for hours after. And the price is painful too.
9:34 yeah, again, so many reviews seem to be so very concerned with short riders. But how is the comfort for taller riders, say a 6'5" man with a 36" inseam?
Hi @arjenbootsma6881, Observations with fitment go both ways, although more often than not, taller motorcycles can present limitations that apply to a large percentage of riders. This did get me wondering about the statistics. According to several resources, less than 1% of the male U.S. population is above 6'5", so we'd be speaking to an extremely limited audience. However, a large percentage of the U.S. population is around my height of 5'10" and I can speak broadly to that experience. Additionally, it's easy to see where riders shorter than myself might run into trouble if I'm struggling to reach the ground on taller motorcycles. That said, it's just as tough to speak to the riding experience of someone that's 6'5" as it is someone who is 5'0", nor do manufacturers consider heights at such extremes. I mean, you can probably just step over most bikes, man. Take care, - Nic
@@ultimatemotorcycling Thank you for your thoughtful response. I must admit that the fact that "the world" doesn't take tall people into account is a longstanding source of annoyance and frustration, from cars I don't fit in, to bikes that would force me to ride with my knees tucked up into my armpits, to apparel manufacturers that only offer up to a size one size too small for me. As to your last comment, when the Royal Enfield Interceptor came out a while ago, I saw one at a show, and I was able to stand over it without any part of my body touching the bike.
Hi, a few reports on the Stelvio have criticised comfort levels on a long ride. Any comment?
@@robertshotliff1743 I was happy with the comfort, though I'd remind readers/viewers that comfort is fairly subjective. For reference, I'm 5'10" and didn't experience any discomfort. It has a neutral riding position, plenty of legroom, and a casual reach to the handlebars for someone of my size. Take care! - Nic
Metric please, makes it much more interesting. V/good review.
Hey Bruceread4507, We generally cite imperial figures because we're a U.S.-based publication. It'd probably be a lot easier if we used the metric system. Thanks for the kind words! Take care! - Nic
'Merica.
Just have a couple of comments about it. Totally respect those that are just trying to make their commute shorter by splitting lanes but I’ve encountered more and more hostile bikers. I drive an F250 or Chevy 2500 quite often I’m not driving. Looking into my side, veiwv rearview mirrors when I’m in traffic I’m looking straight ahead , when more and more frequently A hole biker decides to give me a handful of throttle and smack my mirror cause I’m not jumping out of his way. I have no more Respect for that person and label it as selfish asshole No I’m a hard-working man and it’s 64 years old. I’m probably working harder than most people on this planet that may not seem important to you, but I think I deserve more respect than what I’m receiving I’ve competed in motocross and had many street bikes in my day That’s it I don’t understand the hostility when somebody doesn’t jump out of their way In advance of their approaching a car that is may be crowding the dividing line You folks at riding bikes need to remember that we’re not looking in our mirror for you. We’re focusing on the traffic in front of us. If we’re not impeding you it’s up to you to avoid us. It’s not up to us drivers to avoid you getting hostile with individuals is never gonna end well. I try to see things from another person’s perspective as often as I can and the only thing I can reasonably conclude is those that get hostile towards people that don’t jump out of their way is that they are selfish ignorant a holes We share the road with each other. We don’t have to get out of each other‘s way we are both in the right. I’m sure I will get a lot of flack from those that have their head up their ass And I really don’t care I just feel obligated to share my perspective from a hard-working average guy just trying to feed his family and I’ll be harassed by some selfish ignorant a hole Relax Split your lanes and just assume nobody can see you and we can’t hear you and revving up your encore. Harley is no more intimidating than your five-year-old with a squirt gun.
Any word on a possible Tracer 10 GT+ ?
Hey @Rambler358 Not that we're aware of at this time. That said, taking an MT-10 and converting it for touring duty is something that the aftermarket has facilitated for some time now. Personally, adding that kind of weight would detract from the MT-10's sportiness for me, but if you'd like to take that route, there is an established path. Take care, - Nic
Dang, cut the music and let us here the engine!
Awesome!!! 👍
God Damn Fucking Beautiful Sounds like ❤
Can a 110 fit on the stock rim?
A real alternative to a GS but at many thousands less, yes its not got all the GSs toys but then again it doesn't cost 24 grand.
Hey @Ianhlliwell8604, The BMW GS is a prominent figure in the class for good reason. It often promotes new technologies, performance, and handling with its ADV-touring platform. While those things are important for the industry, the Moto Guzzi Stelvio brings a completely different character to a class with such established and distinct personalities. In that sense, it does offer a refreshing take on the ADV-Touring question with its charming V-twin and solid chassis. Take care, - Nic
A really interesting bike, but no real alternative in 2024 without electronic suspension. 🤷
What a wonderful review sir! How would you compare it to the 21" Africa Twin , Engine wise, handling wise , comfort wise and generally joy of riding wise :) At some point only i realized that you speedometer was on Mph !!!
Hey @Gerokatseros, Oh, that's a tough question! It's been quite a while since I've ridden an AT with a 21-inch front wheel. That said, what I can say is that the AT has a more conventional and modern approach in its parallel-twin engine. It spools up nicely, has good punch, and has character on par with plenty of other p-twin powerplants in the industry. In contrast, the Stelvio's V-twin is far more distinctive, focusing more on its low and midrange power. In terms of handling, the Honda is no slouch, though I'd imagine that the inherent stability of the Stelvio will be touch to match for many models in this cateogry. Comfort wise, they're running neck and neck, though the AT is far taller and that could be a hurdle for some potential buyers. We were riding pre-production units and that may have been a calibration issue 😉 Hope this helps! - Nic
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Il rumore del 2t andrebbe fatto patrimonio dell' UNESCO 😂