Well, the issue is money…lots of it. NS is not doing well enough to even think about an undertaking on this scale with money and people in short supply. They definitely won’t allow 1218 to run on NS or any of the big six carriers. NS is the weakest of the big six financially with traffic dropping. In my opinion NS will be broken up between potential buyers, much like Conrail. Industrial production is dying in this country and NS is on borrowed time as a result.
@cathli_foxКүн бұрын
God you can really tell the desync on my end with my delayed response
@SteelBeastsOfNWКүн бұрын
I just realized I had used the wrong photo/it changed itself when i changed the filename for it at 21:47 Just ignore it, it originally was a photo of a B&O 2-6-6-4. Sorry for that mishap :)
@Mariokid64DSКүн бұрын
Hopefully next time I won't be so late to the party.
@steverontti41995 күн бұрын
If we can build a Pensey T1 from nothing but prints, 1218 and others is definitely possible. It just takes time and deep pockets.
@guitar4ever-4788 күн бұрын
Still can’t believe this hasn’t gotten more views. Tons of variety in it
@robscott829618 күн бұрын
I was born in 2002 in North Carolina and sadly never got to see her run😢
@jamesdenny473419 күн бұрын
I want a Ps4 in 0 gauge! 😊❤
@TB587.327 күн бұрын
'The King Of Roanoke'
@antiares1684Ай бұрын
Good video! Thanks for the effort! A class is certainly one of the best articulated locos ever, and pretty handsome as well with it's clear lines.
@user-xq5ys3sx7rАй бұрын
I would love to see 1218 roll again, and I hope my Uncle David would let me know when he’s steaming again like he used to do from 1987-1991. I want him to chug back into Columbus Ohio, which is my home town.
@heronimousbrapson8632 ай бұрын
The locomotive shown at 1:45 is a 3000 series, 4-4-4 Jubilee, not a 4-6-4 2800 series Hudson.
@SteelBeastsOfNW2 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late response to this, but I did ultimately know that. However, it wasn't intended to show a Hudson from CP, more so as just background film while I talk about 2816's history. Thanks for pointing it out, though. I do appreciate it.
@therandomytchannel43182 ай бұрын
Too bad they never kept a 5900 series Selkirk locomotive 🚂 up and running, that would have been awesome 😎
@ethanruss23512 ай бұрын
she did some passenger runs between Toronto and London a few times when her sisters where in for service
@SteelBeastsOfNW2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the info!
@NickP162 ай бұрын
Great video! I just uploaded my own video yesterday from seeing the Empress #2816 yesterday during its stop at Saint Paul Union Depot in Minnesota She sure is a beautiful locomotive and it’s great to see her back on the high iron after 13 years!
@uniontrains.86312 ай бұрын
My heart says yes. It needs to happen. Bring her back to life and let her roam free.
@jerryrollins5122 ай бұрын
If there's the will on the part of the VMT to finish the rebuild the job, can be completed to current FRA standards. All it'll take is $$. PTC? Unless it's been recently the 611 lacks this feature.
@kristoffermangila2 ай бұрын
Very appropriate to call #2816 "The Empress of Canada" since Canadian Pacific Ships, sister company of CPR, named their ocean liners "Empress".
@oldgoatroper70302 ай бұрын
Also, when CP Airlines existed, it's radio callsign was "Empress"
@createone1002 ай бұрын
Yes, my first trip to England in 1970 was on The Empress of Canada.
@Mr.RailYard-LJLRailYard2 ай бұрын
Very cool video. I'm also making a documentary of the same name about 2816 Empress. Announced it over a year ago, and it will take another year to do. Thank you for doing my favorite engine. I hope you can continue making great videos.
@diezpenguin10862 ай бұрын
Cool video & good background info. But the narration sounds like a text reading computer program.
@SteelBeastsOfNW2 ай бұрын
It is, this is the last video that will have it, since I recently hired a Narrator
@Valdorxsnowpiercer2 ай бұрын
Do a video of n&w a class 1240 and y6b 2174
@SteelBeastsOfNWАй бұрын
2174 has been on the mind for a while. Been working on 611's remake video but ill get to it!
@helmutsandner69643 ай бұрын
Nice video presentation.
@weylinwest95053 ай бұрын
The footage is good. Do an actual non-robot voiceover, and this would be amazing!
@SteelBeastsOfNW3 ай бұрын
Ive wanted to for a while now, but my limitations on equipment prevent that
@TroublesomeSlateTruck3 ай бұрын
Good Work. 👍🏼
@brandonm.70263 ай бұрын
5:30 looks like Roanoke yard?
@SteelBeastsOfNW3 ай бұрын
I believe it is, yes. Towards the Eastern Side.
@TigerDominic-uh1dv4 ай бұрын
Nice Steam Tra😊
@historyotaku4 ай бұрын
I would love to 1218 run again. The issue is not necessarily if it's possible, it absolutely is but moreso an issue if restoring her to operation makes sense and to that at this point in time it just doesn't. 611 is already a caged tiger at this point and being heavily underuttilized. 1218 if it were restored to operation at this point in time and circumstances didn't change would be in an even worse situation as there's even less places where it can run. It's times like this which really make me wish that we had an equivilient here in the US to the Great Central Railway in the UK, a preserved section of double tracked main line where it would be feasible to geather a bunch of main line engines and give them a place to run at track speed.
@SteelBeastsOfNW4 ай бұрын
Thats a fair point. Guessing we will see what the future holds for mainline steam anyways, with 2816's tour coming up, it may open up a slew of possibilities, with it being the first real mainline steam run outside of UP's fleet.
@Mariokid64DS4 ай бұрын
This is actually pretty funny. Keep up the good work.
@ericwood20624 ай бұрын
I don't see Part 2 anywhere in your list of videos.
@SteelBeastsOfNW4 ай бұрын
I know, alot of other projects took control of priority. Ill get it done once my new PC is finished. Sorry for the inconvenience.
@ericwood20624 ай бұрын
@@SteelBeastsOfNW It's okay, and I'm sorry if I made you annoyed, I was just anxious to see more of the story.
@SteelBeastsOfNW4 ай бұрын
@ericwood2062 don't worry bout it. Just my focus has been to the Route of Legends and having to get a new PC done to even record, so its been hectic lol.
@ericwood20624 ай бұрын
@@SteelBeastsOfNW Sorry, I have autism, and I'm not that skilled as you are on vocabulary, so what does "hectic" mean?
@SteelBeastsOfNW4 ай бұрын
@@ericwood2062 hectic means kinda crazy, but not too crazy.
@Bob.W.5 ай бұрын
Hard to find a lot of film on the Z class, when they had the A's and Y's. Thx.
@Bob.W.5 ай бұрын
Old Maude climbed the rails without leading and trailing trucks. I think they added a leading truck to it.
@jeremylando405 ай бұрын
If 1218 can run again there’s no reason why Reading 2101, TSRR 610, and steamtown 2317, and many others can’t go again. I mean they are building a new T1 so why not!
@jackchatfield54645 ай бұрын
If a Western Maryland society wants to recreate a mountain type from the Western Maryland then why not just reclass it as a M-1a?
@louistallarigo55895 ай бұрын
This is interesting as a lifelong steam fan and fan of 1218. I do have some comments though. NCTM does not to my knowledge have the space to restore an engine of 1218's size. Silvis would be the best place in my opinion due to the size of their shop but they have their hands full currently with 5511 and 3985. If it were to happen, it would be similar to 611's restoration in the fact it was funded through donations but likely without help from NS. As much as I would love to see the 1218 run in my lifetime, it will either fall into the traps that the 1309 crew fell into or not happen at least for the near and foreseeable future.
@558vulcanxh5 ай бұрын
Magnificent, Thanks for posting 😊 Greetings from UK 🇬🇧
@redsignal38666 ай бұрын
Big locomotives like the 1218 may take a few years, but it would definitely be worth it.
@gordonsnell67356 ай бұрын
I think it would be very cool if they can get 1218 restored & running again, would LOVE to hear her whistle again
@davidgrason1616 ай бұрын
I have photos of 4501 in her green livery taken in Mt. Vernon, Illinois circa 1972. I'm not certain of the year but Southern railroad was doing publicity runs between St. Louis and Chicago as I recall. I was able to at get a ticket to ride between Centralia and Mt. Vernon.
@fundragon13586 ай бұрын
Get together with TVRM!! They can help!!!!!
@SteelBeastsOfNW6 ай бұрын
I love the idea that a museum within 4 hours of me would help do that. Question is, would their location be big enough to sustain the 121 foot long 1218?
@stevew2706 ай бұрын
In 1990 when 1218 was on her way to the convention in St. Louis she traveled trackage here in southern Illinois less than 15 miles from where I live, back then before the advent of the internet I didn't know steam locomotives still ran in the US.
@stevew2706 ай бұрын
The C&O Kanawha's were actually longer in overall length and heavier than the 2-8-8-2 bretheren, you'd think it would be the opposite.
@jcalpha27176 ай бұрын
B & M 3713 is currently being rebuilt at steamtowm in Scranton, PA. I see several others being given a second chance also.
@Venem19756 ай бұрын
I would love to see a FULL 4014 Style rebuild of not just 1218 but the sole surviving Y6a locomotive. But that is just me. What do you think?
@SteelBeastsOfNW6 ай бұрын
It is possible, alot like 1218's is. Just have to find a place and time for it.
@stevew2706 ай бұрын
The MOT has no plans on restoring 2156, it would be a huge endeavor plus 2156 has a cracked frame.
@SteelBeastsOfNW6 ай бұрын
@@stevew270 that is a good point.
@ThatHuntsvilleRailfanАй бұрын
@@stevew270 if the t1 trust could build a new t1 frame from SCRATCH so can they.
@stevew270Ай бұрын
@@ThatHuntsvilleRailfan It's possible of course but not likely, me and I'm sure most others would just like to see 1218 run again, don't really care about building a new one.
@Mariokid64DS6 ай бұрын
I like trains
@SteelBeastsOfNW6 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@treos177 ай бұрын
who refers to a locomotive as a male, smh
@SteelBeastsOfNW7 ай бұрын
I do? If ya dont like it, ya dont have to. Doesn't mean ya gotta complain about someones preferences.
@melissakarl7 ай бұрын
When I grow up I want to work on 844 steam train, but that being said if the all mighty 1218 comes back I'm driving it no matter what people say and it does not well who cares I'm going to want to restore the best train of all time
@user-lw1fo6ww1p8 ай бұрын
I've seen the Norfolk And Western 1218 in footage. It's not that hard to restore to operate, but the website I looked on said there's no plans to restore it back to operation. They need to re operate it again, BeCause this locomotive needs to get back in business. They are making a huge mistake not restoring it, but at some point they are going to have to do it. I'll be surprised if I hear that this gets back on the tracks, BeCause as a huge railfan, I love this one. If Union Pacific 4014, 3985, (Will be restored) can be restored? So can this beautiful beast!
@roofdriller15378 ай бұрын
I sure hope so, i'd love to see her again. It was in the late 80's i seen her at Iager WV. I was 8 i think. Make her run again, please God.
@Jcus10iscool8 ай бұрын
She would also need a new N&W hooter due to WMSR 1309 using her current whistle
@RosaFan1618 ай бұрын
I would love to see 1218 run again, as one of the lucky railfans that got the chance to see #611 return to Roanoke under power in 2015. I've watched several videos of 1218 in excursion service lately, and would love to see the locomotive run again in person.
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Well, the issue is money…lots of it. NS is not doing well enough to even think about an undertaking on this scale with money and people in short supply. They definitely won’t allow 1218 to run on NS or any of the big six carriers. NS is the weakest of the big six financially with traffic dropping. In my opinion NS will be broken up between potential buyers, much like Conrail. Industrial production is dying in this country and NS is on borrowed time as a result.
God you can really tell the desync on my end with my delayed response
I just realized I had used the wrong photo/it changed itself when i changed the filename for it at 21:47 Just ignore it, it originally was a photo of a B&O 2-6-6-4. Sorry for that mishap :)
Hopefully next time I won't be so late to the party.
If we can build a Pensey T1 from nothing but prints, 1218 and others is definitely possible. It just takes time and deep pockets.
Still can’t believe this hasn’t gotten more views. Tons of variety in it
I was born in 2002 in North Carolina and sadly never got to see her run😢
I want a Ps4 in 0 gauge! 😊❤
'The King Of Roanoke'
Good video! Thanks for the effort! A class is certainly one of the best articulated locos ever, and pretty handsome as well with it's clear lines.
I would love to see 1218 roll again, and I hope my Uncle David would let me know when he’s steaming again like he used to do from 1987-1991. I want him to chug back into Columbus Ohio, which is my home town.
The locomotive shown at 1:45 is a 3000 series, 4-4-4 Jubilee, not a 4-6-4 2800 series Hudson.
Sorry for the late response to this, but I did ultimately know that. However, it wasn't intended to show a Hudson from CP, more so as just background film while I talk about 2816's history. Thanks for pointing it out, though. I do appreciate it.
Too bad they never kept a 5900 series Selkirk locomotive 🚂 up and running, that would have been awesome 😎
she did some passenger runs between Toronto and London a few times when her sisters where in for service
I appreciate the info!
Great video! I just uploaded my own video yesterday from seeing the Empress #2816 yesterday during its stop at Saint Paul Union Depot in Minnesota She sure is a beautiful locomotive and it’s great to see her back on the high iron after 13 years!
My heart says yes. It needs to happen. Bring her back to life and let her roam free.
If there's the will on the part of the VMT to finish the rebuild the job, can be completed to current FRA standards. All it'll take is $$. PTC? Unless it's been recently the 611 lacks this feature.
Very appropriate to call #2816 "The Empress of Canada" since Canadian Pacific Ships, sister company of CPR, named their ocean liners "Empress".
Also, when CP Airlines existed, it's radio callsign was "Empress"
Yes, my first trip to England in 1970 was on The Empress of Canada.
Very cool video. I'm also making a documentary of the same name about 2816 Empress. Announced it over a year ago, and it will take another year to do. Thank you for doing my favorite engine. I hope you can continue making great videos.
Cool video & good background info. But the narration sounds like a text reading computer program.
It is, this is the last video that will have it, since I recently hired a Narrator
Do a video of n&w a class 1240 and y6b 2174
2174 has been on the mind for a while. Been working on 611's remake video but ill get to it!
Nice video presentation.
The footage is good. Do an actual non-robot voiceover, and this would be amazing!
Ive wanted to for a while now, but my limitations on equipment prevent that
Good Work. 👍🏼
5:30 looks like Roanoke yard?
I believe it is, yes. Towards the Eastern Side.
Nice Steam Tra😊
I would love to 1218 run again. The issue is not necessarily if it's possible, it absolutely is but moreso an issue if restoring her to operation makes sense and to that at this point in time it just doesn't. 611 is already a caged tiger at this point and being heavily underuttilized. 1218 if it were restored to operation at this point in time and circumstances didn't change would be in an even worse situation as there's even less places where it can run. It's times like this which really make me wish that we had an equivilient here in the US to the Great Central Railway in the UK, a preserved section of double tracked main line where it would be feasible to geather a bunch of main line engines and give them a place to run at track speed.
Thats a fair point. Guessing we will see what the future holds for mainline steam anyways, with 2816's tour coming up, it may open up a slew of possibilities, with it being the first real mainline steam run outside of UP's fleet.
This is actually pretty funny. Keep up the good work.
I don't see Part 2 anywhere in your list of videos.
I know, alot of other projects took control of priority. Ill get it done once my new PC is finished. Sorry for the inconvenience.
@@SteelBeastsOfNW It's okay, and I'm sorry if I made you annoyed, I was just anxious to see more of the story.
@ericwood2062 don't worry bout it. Just my focus has been to the Route of Legends and having to get a new PC done to even record, so its been hectic lol.
@@SteelBeastsOfNW Sorry, I have autism, and I'm not that skilled as you are on vocabulary, so what does "hectic" mean?
@@ericwood2062 hectic means kinda crazy, but not too crazy.
Hard to find a lot of film on the Z class, when they had the A's and Y's. Thx.
Old Maude climbed the rails without leading and trailing trucks. I think they added a leading truck to it.
If 1218 can run again there’s no reason why Reading 2101, TSRR 610, and steamtown 2317, and many others can’t go again. I mean they are building a new T1 so why not!
If a Western Maryland society wants to recreate a mountain type from the Western Maryland then why not just reclass it as a M-1a?
This is interesting as a lifelong steam fan and fan of 1218. I do have some comments though. NCTM does not to my knowledge have the space to restore an engine of 1218's size. Silvis would be the best place in my opinion due to the size of their shop but they have their hands full currently with 5511 and 3985. If it were to happen, it would be similar to 611's restoration in the fact it was funded through donations but likely without help from NS. As much as I would love to see the 1218 run in my lifetime, it will either fall into the traps that the 1309 crew fell into or not happen at least for the near and foreseeable future.
Magnificent, Thanks for posting 😊 Greetings from UK 🇬🇧
Big locomotives like the 1218 may take a few years, but it would definitely be worth it.
I think it would be very cool if they can get 1218 restored & running again, would LOVE to hear her whistle again
I have photos of 4501 in her green livery taken in Mt. Vernon, Illinois circa 1972. I'm not certain of the year but Southern railroad was doing publicity runs between St. Louis and Chicago as I recall. I was able to at get a ticket to ride between Centralia and Mt. Vernon.
Get together with TVRM!! They can help!!!!!
I love the idea that a museum within 4 hours of me would help do that. Question is, would their location be big enough to sustain the 121 foot long 1218?
In 1990 when 1218 was on her way to the convention in St. Louis she traveled trackage here in southern Illinois less than 15 miles from where I live, back then before the advent of the internet I didn't know steam locomotives still ran in the US.
The C&O Kanawha's were actually longer in overall length and heavier than the 2-8-8-2 bretheren, you'd think it would be the opposite.
B & M 3713 is currently being rebuilt at steamtowm in Scranton, PA. I see several others being given a second chance also.
I would love to see a FULL 4014 Style rebuild of not just 1218 but the sole surviving Y6a locomotive. But that is just me. What do you think?
It is possible, alot like 1218's is. Just have to find a place and time for it.
The MOT has no plans on restoring 2156, it would be a huge endeavor plus 2156 has a cracked frame.
@@stevew270 that is a good point.
@@stevew270 if the t1 trust could build a new t1 frame from SCRATCH so can they.
@@ThatHuntsvilleRailfan It's possible of course but not likely, me and I'm sure most others would just like to see 1218 run again, don't really care about building a new one.
I like trains
Agreed.
who refers to a locomotive as a male, smh
I do? If ya dont like it, ya dont have to. Doesn't mean ya gotta complain about someones preferences.
When I grow up I want to work on 844 steam train, but that being said if the all mighty 1218 comes back I'm driving it no matter what people say and it does not well who cares I'm going to want to restore the best train of all time
I've seen the Norfolk And Western 1218 in footage. It's not that hard to restore to operate, but the website I looked on said there's no plans to restore it back to operation. They need to re operate it again, BeCause this locomotive needs to get back in business. They are making a huge mistake not restoring it, but at some point they are going to have to do it. I'll be surprised if I hear that this gets back on the tracks, BeCause as a huge railfan, I love this one. If Union Pacific 4014, 3985, (Will be restored) can be restored? So can this beautiful beast!
I sure hope so, i'd love to see her again. It was in the late 80's i seen her at Iager WV. I was 8 i think. Make her run again, please God.
She would also need a new N&W hooter due to WMSR 1309 using her current whistle
I would love to see 1218 run again, as one of the lucky railfans that got the chance to see #611 return to Roanoke under power in 2015. I've watched several videos of 1218 in excursion service lately, and would love to see the locomotive run again in person.