Howdy, I'm Gatenerd!
My channel is dedicated to the fascinating history and geography all around us. In my main series, "Shape of the Union" I dive deep into the stories behind state borders in the US.
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Great video, I see why you chose Oklahoma for the second episode. Learned alot! Keep up the good work!
Pennsylvania and Connecticut fought a war over the Wyoming Valley. It was called there Pennamite-Yankee War. It was during the Revolutionary War.
No nz says bag it
Those so called Indians look mighty European to me in the photos
Nice video
Thank you for your report very well done
Ohio not really a swing state no more
Your content is great and your production quality is excellent! I hope you add more videos to your channel. Are you an "Okie"? I am a 4th generation Oklahoman and am always interested in learning more about my complicated state.
thank you! I’m not an Okie, I’m from Kansas. However, my father and his whole side of my family is for about 3-4 generations. I’ve spent a lot of time in Oklahoma as a result
@@GateNerd That's great. Your 1/2 Okie and that's enough! Are you going to make any more videos? You have a really good production quality and if you keep working at it and developing your skills, I believe you could build a million subscriber channel.
Lets go blue
Great information and video, thank you very much!!!!
Very entertaining & informative. Great job!!
Great video. So interesting. Wish it was longer
First off they’d have more than 300,000 if they didn’t conspire against the black natives to kick them out of the tribe! Secondly on that horrible trail of tears they were violating black peoples rights at the same by having slaves. Lastly they willing joined the confederacy, got it! Reparations now!
As a genealogist, I always find it amusing when I read an historical reference saying that somebody "moved to the West" -- meaning OHIO!
boudinot is pronounced "Boodnot"
Excellent scholarship regarding a rarely discussed theft of Indian Territory, given in perpetuity until principally the Dawes and Curtis Act which likens to "highway robbery"...Sooners, Boomers, Red Man's land and many concept which cement the theft and skullduggery of white men called Congressmen and President and lastly law...
Waiting for you to tell about how Kansas came about, it is interesting and goes with this vid
Waiting for you to tell about how Kansas came about, it is interesting and goes with this vid
I am a member of the Choctaw nation I'm glad our state is being talked about often we are too boring of a state to gain any attention
you forgot to mention that Illinois is the french version of the Illini or Illiniwek confederation
Well I'm from norman and live in OKC currently and i had no idea that's why we're called sooners 😂 ty for the video it was very educational
btw michigan, you can have toledo back. but youve got to take cleveland as well or no deal!
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Do you still make videos? The ones on your channel are pretty awesome and I'd love to watch more of your content!
Only in Ohio 💀
6:53 guinea bissau flag has yellow on top green on bottom
Such an informative and good video, really appreciate it! Hope you do some more in the future, for example I wondered whats going on with Missouris south eastern shape
Quite a bit in this episode that wasn't mentioned in US History. Circa 1976, that is. Interesting, are you doing all 50?
Spotted you in the comments of one of the drawing videos over on the Polandball channel. This is some fascinating stuff, Gate!
thanks! hopefully I'll be putting a video like this out on the polandball page in the next couple months
amazin
This Gate Nerd is the lyingist SOB I've ever seen.
All said, I think the Native Americans should have been given the whole territory of OK. Defended and established up to today. It is not nearly enough, but it would have helped generations of Indians. Imagine a strong and functional and sovereign Native American nation right in the middle?
This would have been a very interesting change to American history. It's interesting to think of what could have happened if this had been the case.
Ah, a, Ah! @19:00 min many Indian tribes throw in their lot with the Confederacy? Because slavery is not unknown to the Indians?? Well... let's not portray the 5 Nations as victims and innocent savages. The treatment of Native Americans is an abomination in historical terms. But it was not an aberration. It was a part of history, and just what common people did. Don't judge from a century later.
As I said, the tribes in Indian territory were slave-owning and sided with the confederacy, in part, because of that. Whether they would have joined *only* based on that is another question. However, as I pointed out later, tribes relocated to Indian Territory after the war (Sac and Fox, Shawnee, etc.) were not slave-owning and they chose a side only sided with the Union. Based on all your comments I think you're making these points without a) finishing the segment or b) not fully listening to what I'm saying. Also, I went out of my way to include contemporary criticism. This was not a case of everyone agreeing. Many, even in the Supreme Court and the white house, opposed many of these policies. Again, I don't think you're actually listening.
@6:00 min he does the usual/modern apologia for using the term, "indian". wtf. Do you think the UN/Library of Congress is going to review your video for accurate information? Number two, have been friends with dozens of indians. None of them dislike the term. Please stop trying to be PC, stop trying to please academics (predominately Anglos). Just tell the damn story.
Many people, especially those unfamiliar with Indians, take issue with the term. I have spent enough time in Oklahoma and among Indians my whole life and fully understand that. That information was simply to avoid people bringing it up as something I disregarded. I've made enough videos about adjacent topics to know it is best to air on the side of caution. Like I expressed in the segment the term is used officially and is extremely common, especially in Oklahoma. In my experience, the term is mostly disliked by Western tribes, especially the Navajo. It's best, in my opinion, to be informative, rather than ignore/ gloss over a term that some find problematic. It's not "PC", it's respectful.
Oklahomas my second home, iam a Choctaw tribal member there and two of my Creek great uncles served as Colonels in all Indian regiments in the civil war
Toledo here. One more very important part had been left out. Plans for a canal system were in place that ended in Toledo so Ohio was not going to pay for a canal that took commerce to MICHIGAN
Connecticut actually went to war with the Pennsylvanians three times over its Pennsylvanian portion before the federal government forced them to give it to Pennsylvania. Not on the border between Ohio and Kentucky, but an interesting Kentucky border that's the result of a river is the Kentucky Bend on the Mississippi River. The Kentucky Bend is bordered by Missouri to its north, but there is no bridge between it and New Madrid. The only way to leave the Kentucky Bend is through its southern border with Tennessee, and it's also the only way to get to the rest of Kentucky. Why does the Kentucky Bend exist? Good question! So the border stems from the Royal Colonial Boundary of 1665, which was meant to delimit overlapping inland claims of the Colony of Virginia and the Province of Carolina, respectively. It's unclear why the line was drawn this way, perhaps early surveyors simply incorrectly assumed the river's course. Tennessee once disputed it until 1848. The area was greatly affected by the New Madrid earthquakes in the early 1800s, some of the strongest in the US, and the changes in the river at that time may have been a contributing factor. At one point in time, 332 people lived there in 1880 as it was a big cotton-producing area. The six-decade feud on the Bend between two families was mentioned in Mark Twain's Life on the Mississippi.
It's absolutely wild to think Connecticut was once much longer than it is today! Though the claim went beyond the Mississippi, as Connecticut's grant stated it would be from sea to sea, so out to the Pacific! Connecticut gave up western land claims following the American Revolutionary War in exchange for federal assumption of its debt, but of course held onto the Western Reserve of what's now northeastern Ohio for a bit longer. And something the region has in common with Connecticut: Clambake! After the Civil War, railroads began carrying fresh Atlantic seafood on ice from New York through Pennsylvania, Ohio and on to Chicago, which led to it becoming popular around Cleveland! Cleveland's Public Square was actually designed when it was part of Connecticut! Moses Cleaveland oversaw the New England-style design of the plan for what would become the modern downtown area, centered on Public Square, before returning to CT, never again to visit Ohio. Moses Cleaveland once served in the Connecticut militia as a brigadier general during the American Revolution, and he was a shareholder in the Connecticut Land Company!
More Toledo lore: Toledo, Ohio is named after Toledo, Spain! Why? Some say it's because Toledo, Spain was famous for its steel and that Toledo in Ohio was hoping for the same status with its glass. Others say merchant Willard J. Daniels suggested Toledo because it is easy to pronounce, is pleasant in sound, and there was no other city of that name on the American continent. After the 1845 completion of the Miami and Erie Canal, which helped connect Cincinnati to Lake Erie for water transportation to eastern markets, including to New York City via the Erie Canal and Hudson River, Toledo grew quickly. It also benefited from its position on the railway line between New York City and Chicago. Ohio flag lore: The flag was designed in 1901 by John Eisenmann for the Pan-American Exposition and adopted in 1902. Before that, for nearly a century after statehood, Ohio did not have a legally authorized state flag. One unsuccessful proposal had called for a design based on the state seal. The flag has seventeen stars, with thirteen stars grouped around the O representing the thirteen original states, and seventeen in total representing Ohio being the seventeenth state. The blue triangular field that represents the state's hills and valleys. The O represents not only the O in Ohio, but also the state's nickname, the buckeye state.
A shameful legacy for sure.
I don’t think so
Question: Where did you get your info claiming that MIssissippi currently has a higher gross agricultural product than Oklahoma. ? Every site I have found says that Oklahoma's GAP is the higher one. The one exception is Mississippi's own site.
It’s actually gross agricultural output per square mile. Using GAP from the NASS if i remember correctly.
Thank you. That makes sense and probably was a major issue in the early 1800s. @@GateNerd
Thumbnail shows ‘County’ and title shows ‘Country’. wuz up 👀
If gimp had spellcheck my life would be so much better. Thank you, though, I'll fix that now
@@GateNerdplease don’t react to my petty problems! 😂💪
8:50 Indians had no concept of land ownership. Any claims to the limits of so called territory of theirs in maps, are hearsay at best. These people were all Waring Nomads.
Indians were conquered in Oklahoma. And the Indians were not American citizen, which they even didn't want to be, thus being conquered, all Indians in the 1890s. Conquering others is not an American invention, liberal revisionist.
The Democrat Indian Removal Act, to be precised.
Wrong
@@GateNerdThey claimed territory. They had villages where land was cleared to grow crops and had designated hunting grounds. Sometimes wild bands from distant tribes fleeing drought or warfare would arrive in their territory seeking a new place to settle down. The tribes that held plenty of territory would direct them to where they could settle. Otherwise they provided the bands with food so they had something to eat while they continued their migration. The Caddo were the dominant tribe in SW Arkansas, SE Oklahoma, East Texas and NW Louisiana. They had wild bands from the north, east and south coming in well before 1800. Their chiefs sold their territory to the Federal Government or settlers before leaving to escape conflict with them. The natives also screwed things up for themselves by overhunting their territory to sell furs and hides for trade goods. They nearly wiped out their main source of protein so decided to relocate where the hunting was better. The Caddo directed the Alabama and Coushatta tribes to settle in the Big Thicket in Deep East Texas since they were Southern Woodlands tribes that were accustomed to that environment. Tribes that were accustomed to fighting other tribes were directed to settle along the western fringes to serve as a buffer against raiding bands of Kiowa, Comanche and others. The Cherokee came in greater numbers so settled where they wanted. Their numbers increased while the number of Caddo decreased to become an insignificant tribe by 1830. NE Texas wasn't surveyed by the Spanish or Mexican governments due to being wooded Indian territory that colonists weren't interested in. The Republic of Texas did but Sam Houston saw no reason to force out the tribes since they had established communities. That changed after Texas became a state where the Federal government paid the tribes to relocate across the Red River into the Indian Territory. The tribes inside the territory didn't want the newcomers since they had to share their designated territory with them.
Ohio being more than a meme
Do you think that you can do one for Minnesota?
excellent summary, thank you