What are your favourite fin templates and configurations to run with the quiver killer?
@boxypenn100817 күн бұрын
Love these videos. I've been keeping my eye out for a Gem off the back of these videos, but interested to know what your thoughts are on the TJ Pro?
@hooverbaglegs22 күн бұрын
Fab review. Just got one off eBay - the best longboard I’ve ever owned.
@jewittian28 күн бұрын
Hi, how does the the puddle jumper compare to the lost Hydra?
@rogersanchez9820Ай бұрын
Hey! I have a bobby quad and would like to know if it would work with a split keel. Im 70kg and the board is 5'6 30L. Dont know what type of fins (there. Is diferent split keel on the deflow website)!!
@MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP2 ай бұрын
Great review. 🤙
@tommyclarku64752 ай бұрын
Will the tint Sunday turn to red color after a year?
@joesefr.77562 ай бұрын
I love my timbertek 6'10, I'm 79kg, but as I'm improving I wonder if it holds back my turns as I've bogged a few times on backside cutbacks. I've stuck a tail pad on it which looks awful but hopefully will cue me to have the foot further back.
@jeffn13843 ай бұрын
I don't understand something. When you say the double concave channels water out towards the fins, that sounds good but there's water everywhere under the board. There's not just two torrents heading towards the fins.
@lawson45uk3 ай бұрын
Yeah fair comment and I’m definitely no hydrodynamics expert these are just the generally held understandings of the concepts. I guess it’s like an aeroplane too though the air is everywhere around the plane but the way it flows though the wings creates a pressure differential that causes lift. Same with fins ok they cause drag too but they are in the water and the difference in the foils creates “lift” or drive. If you bottom turned without fins in bot sure if you could leverage the same drive even if you had a more free down the line speed. Again I’m not really sure myself and neither are most people but those are the general documented concepts. Hope that helps. Cheers 😊
@lawson45uk3 ай бұрын
If you push a boat through water it directs the water flow and causes it to lift too. I know everything is in the water but the body has a speed that it moves through the water and that is what causes the interaction i think but again. No hydrodynamics experts. Cheers
@leighrosendahl27344 ай бұрын
A little late to the show. How do you compare this to the Sweet Potato?
@rengo33905 ай бұрын
Fish paddle jumper or hydra for a beginner small waves surfer?
@lawson45uk5 ай бұрын
Hi. Depends on your weight age ability etc but if your a genuine beginner in small waves you should probably be starting with something more like a 7’10” fun board or mini mal that’s beginner friendly and ride that as your only board for at least a year. You will get more waves and progress much quicker that way. Something like the puddle jumper might be good for someone that’s making the move from that point to intermediate as a first shorter board. Cheers.
@rengo33905 ай бұрын
@lawson45uk which one you will pick for you in extreme small waves?
@rickpags15 ай бұрын
How is this board on late drops/takeoffs? I've had a 7'2 FCD for years and it has save my arse many times on late drops, very forgiving, just a pinch of a weight shift back and I'm good. FCD is old and beat along with expensive, price range on this model skindog is perfect, but I'm older and slower so I only expect the late drops to increase. 🙂
@soulsurfer31026 ай бұрын
what board you like more.v3 or pk?
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
PK personally but would probably depend on your style and the waves you surf. The V3 has a little more rocker and more narrow nose but still a pretty wide tail rippers seem to like them more. I like the PK better for its versatility wider nose flatter rocker. Sold that to my friend and he’s loving it too.
@Mark-hj7hi6 ай бұрын
Ay Mate. I hope recovery is going well. Wishing you the best.
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Hey Mark. Sorry for the late reply. Thanks very much for your kind comment. I’m getting there thanks. Still not back to surfing yet but starting to get more active slowly. Just been walking and taking things pretty easy though. Cheers. Hope you are well and getting waves.
@Mark-hj7hi5 ай бұрын
Cheers. Keep at it.
@paulsmith51676 ай бұрын
Hi bud, where do you live? Are in the uk? Love the videos and reviews 👍
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Cheers Paul. I’m from the UK but live in New Zealand
@SimonvanRossen-uo8yt6 ай бұрын
Hi Go Surf, how would you compare the South Island Fish to the Superblob. It seems like the fish is shaped for local conditions in mind and the superblob takes a lot of inspiration from the fish. Tossing up between the two models and would love to hear your thoughts.
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Yeah the fish is more of a fishy ride as obvious as that may sound probably a bit more versatile too and heavier and more traditional in the bigger sizes. The super blob is more like a smaller wave board generally made in the lighter and more modern construction. Can be a bit less grippy too with the wide tail and no fish cut out. Both fun boards though. Maybe get a demo and see which you like best
@saulocampos98117 ай бұрын
What’s up, mate! If you were to pick one, which one would you pick TimberTech or thunderbolt? Is there a difference in weight between the two? Hope all is well! 🤙
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. Yeah definitely thunderbolt if I could. Think they are a bit note durable and better flex. Timber tech feels stiffer and a little heavier but some of that older ones could be prone to delam issues if not made right and looked after well. Thunderbolt is lighter and more lively. Cheers.
@patriciopastorrodriguez28137 ай бұрын
hi mate, im researching a lot about tuflite, and i have had a byrne mullet 6.3 for 12 years, this is by far the more durable stuff i found on this world, shame is no longer beeing produced, cheers.
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Yeah those were nice boards. They could be a little stiff but still good. The new Thunderbolt boards are good but limited stuff available in shorter boards and very expensive now.
@bevanpalmer7 ай бұрын
Brother you have awesome reviews and are so blessed to have as many boards that you have.
@dlotway3998 ай бұрын
Did you ever try the Special T with a quad fin setup?
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Hi sorry for the late reply. Never got that far unfortunately. Was going to give it a go but ended up having another surgery on my back and not back to surfing yet. Cheers.
@dlotway3995 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about the need for surgery. Hope that has gone well and you are on the road to surf recovery? @@lawson45uk
@StandUpPaddleboardNHWolfeboro8 ай бұрын
Does this board get into waves easy on windy days. Looking at a 7 footer
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Hi sorry got the late reply. Yeah PU construction is usually a bit more steady getting into windy waves than the lighter export boards. The party crasher is a really good all round higher volume big guys short board kind of design so really versatile for an intermediate rider. Cheers.
@MJHunt4348 ай бұрын
Hey. Don't suppose you have any recommendations for private surf lessons at Sumner or Brighton? Thanks!
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
There are a few good people around. Would probably depend on your current level. If you are beginner learn to surf sumner are very good group lessons. If you want private or are more advanced I’m sure Aaron from learn to surf or one of the young guys would do one on one. I think Jack Tyro sometimes does lessons too. Cheers
@danielbarbieri81998 ай бұрын
Hi Thanks for the review I'm strugglling to decide, Special T 9' or Harley Ingleby HI4 9'1. For small weak waves (1 to 4ft), we don't have long clean peelers on the beach break I surf. Nose riding ability is great but you have to deal with a lot of close out and steep face when the waves hit the sand bar. What I need is to catch the wave early, and be able to ride the pocket if it isn’t nose rideable. The flater rocker & bottom of the T should make it a good paddler, but how would you compare it with the HI4? When things get more serious would the T still be in the game ? Regards, Daniel
@lawson45uk8 ай бұрын
Hi Daniel. Yeah that’s a tough one. Those are two of my favourite boards. Not ridden the Hi4 but really like the look of it. It’s gonna be so subjective to your waves and riding it’s hard to say but I think you have the right thoughts. I had been riding the special T in thunderbolt red before I got injured and use that for most waves and really enjoy it. Find it paddles well and performs well. Doesn’t feel that much like a signed fin. Suspect the Hi4 has a little more curve and a little more rocker so could suit a slightly more powerful or sectiony wave. Hard to say not having ridden it. The nose js bigger on the Hi4 too though. I think both could be good choices so probably trust your own judgment as sounds like you know what you want and understand the differences. Cheers
@danielbarbieri81998 ай бұрын
@@lawson45uk Thanks mate Take care 🤙
@HappyChillmore8 ай бұрын
I’m trying to figure out if split keels would be nice on a seaside and beyond m. Wondering if the boxes are too far from eachother
@lawson45uk8 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the fins were in a bit of a funny spot on the beyond myself. Found it could be a little grabby if the waves didn’t have much power or shape. Lot of people seem to find it better in bigger waves than smaller waves. On the seaside itself I much preferred the split keel to the machado seaside quads. Everyone I know really likes the seaside quad apart from me. No idea why
@StandUpPaddleboardNHWolfeboro8 ай бұрын
5'11 beanbag @ 45ltrs or 6'3 rnf retro @ 45ltrs What one would u suggest for maximum projection in knee high junk
@lawson45uk8 ай бұрын
Hi hard to say just on pure projection but the bean bag is definitely a more grovelly board and better at those tiny junky waves. It will flow in the pocket and dance around nicely. The RNF had more rocker and less width front and back so prefers a little more wave. Bean bag is the best grovel board I have had and the original sweet potato was also great. Cheers.
@FluffyAlpaca8110 ай бұрын
I have a lib tech QK and in big but fat head high beach break waves, it feels kinda sluggish. I’m using Al Merrick thrusters large. What fins do you recommend to spice up the QK / make it more snappy?
@lawson45uk10 ай бұрын
Is that in FCS or Futures. Fcs you could give the stretch SF4 a go if you want speed. The mayhem large are decent too if you just want more lively but don’t need too much if any extra drive.
@FluffyAlpaca8110 ай бұрын
@@lawson45uk hey thanks for reply. Futures. I was thinking of swapping for F8 Blackstix. What do you think?
@markwilliams853310 ай бұрын
Superb! Thank you for taking the time to share this. It’s been so helpful to understand how boards work.
@mjstatic7710 ай бұрын
Hi mate, which out of the CI AM Keels and the Machado Keels would you say for adding hold and stability to a twin? My pin tailed twin is a bit loose in bigger surf using the Jim Banks Hooker fins and want to tone it down a bit in overhead surf..
@lawson45uk10 ай бұрын
Hi just had a look at the hooker fin. That’s less area than the ci and machado thought it looks like he also has some others that are similar area and shape to the ci. I would say the ci and machado would both add a little hold. I think I would lean a little towards the ci myself. I think That machado is a touch bigger and more upright but the way the ci has sweep and back cut it’s probably a little more suited to hold and release while still providing so one responsiveness. The machado be a little more down the line speed oriented but since you want more speed control than speed creation I think the CI be be the go. Keels aren’t ideal for bigger waves for me personally but the ci is definitely more designed in that kinda way. Cheers
@toryescarsega719610 ай бұрын
hi. which board would you consider for an intermediate surfer? i ride a 7 ft fun board. i'm 5'9" 182 lbs
@lawson45uk10 ай бұрын
Hi mate. I kept both for a long time but just hd a second spine surgery so sold both just before that. There both excellent boards. You can’t go too wrong with either. Probably let your preference for epoxy or PU or if you like your boards a bit heavier and more planted drive your decisions or even if something pops up second hand at a good price. The two I had were different lengths and volumes too so even my experience and outlook probably a little swayed. The retro rides a touch more retro and a little less slippery really depends on your style. If you like longer turns with good speed carry the retro is a little more of that and the seaside will perform a little more bit again all relative to what size you get. Both are excellent boards. Hope that helps
@brba132511 ай бұрын
Your board looks sick. Congratulations.
@JerrySpringer225311 ай бұрын
Can u do a review of the cj nelson parallax?
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Sorry don’t have access to boards or sponsors so just what I have myself. My friend has one and really likes it though.
@lauraharper427411 ай бұрын
Could you still knows ride these type of boards or like hang 10?
@lawson45uk6 ай бұрын
Yeah with enough skill for sure
@rafacazuriaga11 ай бұрын
You mentioned you had it in 6'10, do you think it works well for longboard days?
@lawson45uk11 ай бұрын
Hi mate. Yeah it’s obviously not going to quite be a longboard in terms of early in and glide but yeah I remember having lots of fun on smaller days. You can almost nose ride it. So yeah definitely could be on your radar as a mid length for a range of waves. Turns good and good wave count. I think it’s fairly high volume but that suited me. I definitely remember having a lot of fun on it. Hope that helps. Cheers
@Ironlung33011 ай бұрын
Hey Dave, great review as always! There aren't a lot of detailed reviews for this board so I thought I would share my thoughts after riding it for a month. I picked up the 7'6" during the recent sale (6'1" and 215lbs) after seeing my buddy hanging 5 on it in Malibu. I rode it in everything from 1 foot mush to head high sets and it really shined when the waves got good. I think it will be a great step up board for when waves get bigger this winter. The Board has a hug sweet spot and on bigger sets, you can literally 2 stroke into waves. I agree with you that it's not a paddle beast as it tends to nose dive a bit, but there is a weird things with this board where you wont think you are in the wave then it "locks" and you start flying down the face. Hard to explain, but you know it when you feel it, almost like hitting the go button and dropping in like a skateboard from the top. The 2+1turns really well on rail and its hold is incredible when the wave pitches + if you shift your feet around you can link sections and blast around flat spots / whitewater. I have a quad set for it but haven't found the need to try them yet. Im using it almost like a big guy short board / sitting out the back a bit with the long boarders and have been really stoked on it. It tends to slows your waves down and gives you time to think about what you want to do next on the wave. As a big guy it it helps even the playing field with people sitting out the back and lets you get in before the guys sitting on the inside on short boards. Long rides, great hold, turns much better than expected and its super stable. Thunderbolt Red is flexy and feels incredible as usual. Love everything minus the paddling but getting used to it. Board Reference - Seaside & Beyond 7'4" - Great but with lowish volume, it just felt too long for how it paddled and turned. My shorter Seaside paddles about the same but with less board to swing on turns. Ova turns better IMO. - 7'0" Outlier 2+1 is incredible for small or mushy surf but tends to slide out on steep waves or backside on anything that is head high since it so flat. Paddles better than Ova and glides like a long board but much less hold on good waves. This board seems to be a perfect middle ground and great shape for most of the days I surf. I bet the 7'0" would be a great 1 board quiver for most people 140-185 and 7'6-8' for big boys 185+. I rode it at Malibu, Porto, Middles / Uppers, San O, Point Breaks in Mexico. Cheers!
@lawson45uk11 ай бұрын
Hi Great detailed feedback really appreciate that. Hope it helps others too..Not sure if it was you I was talking to but sold mine as I had to have another back operation so cleared out a lot of boards till I work out where I am at and what I can do after recovery. It was a friend that bought it though and he said exactly the same. He's able to use it in everything from smaller to bigger waves and finds it's smoothing his surfing out and a good option for when the wave doesn't have quite the shape for his shorter board here which is often. I think the Outlier would be a good one from our local wave too from everything I hear very flat faced a lot of the time so we dont need much rocker and do need help to get in and make sections.I agree too does everything nicely as a single with sides I think that was the main intention of the fin set up and good hold. For me it was just a little harder to duck dive than I was expecting which was quite surprising. For everything else it was really on point as an all rounder your kinda rarely on the "wrong board" for the conditions when it does most things well. Anyways glad your stoked and thanks for your time commenting. I wont ramble on myself for too long as you nailed it with your description and comparison. Cheers :-)
@jerryspringer270911 ай бұрын
Nice review 🤙🏽. Your board looks good mate
@leahbrettt11 ай бұрын
Thanks, well done!!
@jaco111992 Жыл бұрын
Ho Dave thanks for your video! I am looking for a mid to ride when I am just lazy or want to to cruise. I am 31, good paddler and was thinking about the ova over the mid6 or the moe just because it is more versatile. a mid 6 for my understanding surf like a short board basically with more liters ecc ecc. like the fact that the ova change between the fin set up and love skindog surfboards and I think it can be an awsome travel board to have in the quiver. I just came from a Maldives trip and I think with a quad set up would have performed well also int the “juicy” days we had for an early entry and to have right amount of speed especially in backhand trains. I found one discounted one 30% brand new and 7’. I am deciding if go for it in these days
@lawson45uk Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Yeah I was keen on a Mid 6 but thought the 7 was a bit refined lower volume and quite a bit of rocket for me but would make an excellent “sensible and conservancy ” step up im short and like to be able to duck dive my boards too so 7 is about the limit of length I can do that easily on. The 7’6” mid 6 looks quite different to the 7 more volume and a bit more width so doesn’t look as blade like. I actually sold my ova. A friend bought it and he’s loving it for exactly what you said. He can ride it in small and bigger waves and likes the fin options. He’s in pretty good shape and taller too so seems to suit him well. I found it a little hard to duck dive think the nose is a little wider than I thought so even though it’s thin it was a bit harder to sink than the one I made myself and that’s much thicker. If you think it rip suit you it probably will it’s pretty versatile nice to ride lots of options and the thunderbolt tech is great. Especially if your getting a bargain price. Hope that helps.
@KC-ro9ro Жыл бұрын
how do you feel it catches waves compared to a parallax or a special t ? looking for a groveller kind of longboard when waves are small and gutless
@lawson45uk Жыл бұрын
Hi. Not ridden the Parallax sorry but this one catches waves a bit better than the 9’0” Special T I slightly prefer the 9’0” special T myself as I’m short so find the special T more responsive at not too big a sacrifice on wave catching. If you we’re talking the special T in a 9’6” it may paddle better than the 9’4” but again not ridden both to compare sorry. The Haven did definitely add a bit of wave catching ability compared to the other 9’0” boards I had too to be fair. I was catching more small waves more easily. Just that bit more trim power. I find there is quite a difference between 9’0” and 9’6” boards in both the way they catch waves and ride. I always find 9’6” a little bigger than I want personally but if I were closer to 6ft than 5’6” it might be a different story. I like the 9’0” Special T as a do it all board myself for the local conditions. Cheers.
@Ibanezmusic1 Жыл бұрын
I’m 5’10 170lbs and surf 30-33L shortboards primarily. I just picked up one of these in 6’1 36.5L as a mini step up. I don’t surf anything bigger than 8ft so don’t need a true step up. Next swell that comes through I’ll let you know how it handled it.
@Toades8513 Жыл бұрын
8 months since last post? this guy Alive?
@lawson45uk Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Unfortunately had another prolapsed disk in my spine that required an operation so been out of action and out of the water for months. Operation done and been recovering. Not got much to report on surfboards sorry. Will do an update eventually but won’t be posting much anymore. Cheers.
@Toades8513 Жыл бұрын
@@lawson45uk Hope so man like watching your vids from the USA :)
@petewebb5149 Жыл бұрын
If you ever get a chance to buy a 7' Outlier just do it. You will love it.
@Ironlung33011 ай бұрын
I have the cream colored 7' outlier ands its incredible in small-medium / mushy waves. After my first session I started calling it the Cream Dream and ride it about 50% of the time. Almost like an ultimate groveler but also handles larger waves when they are rolling or off a point. Once it gets punchy or powerful it tends to slide out on the bottom turns just because of how flat the rocker is. 1-4 foot it catches everything and turns really well for how long it is.
@petewebb514911 ай бұрын
Exactly...so basically perfect for Dave's local conditions most of the time. I think he would love it. My mate and I who have one both say...never leave home without it. @@Ironlung330
@Mark-hj7hi Жыл бұрын
Hoping you are doing ok
@lawson45uk Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Yeah not too bad now thanks. Had a second disk prolapse in my back which required surgery so that’s taken me out for a while. Be a while longer before I can try to surf again too just playing it safe and getting myself back to normal life first. Cheers. Sold a lot of my shorter boards now too. 46 plus a couple of back surgeries I think it’s time to accept that it’s ok to let the board do a lot if the work so probably be the longboard and maybe a mid length ride here and there for me. Don’t need many boards anymore.
@Mark-hj7hi9 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the longer board sentiments. I’ve got a Harley Ingleby longboard quiver and have no interest in going back. I tried the HI4, loved it, and found some really good deals on secondary market. Hihp is awesome in bigger (mostly slopey) surf. Diamond drive is a dinger too. I might sell the HI4 and just keep those two. Haven’t decided. But I should t keep all of em! Lol I hope your back is doing better. Surgery and recovery sucks. I too have back issues. Get RFA done about once a year. Multiple herniated disks. Will end up needing surgery eventually. So I get it. Back surgery is scary. And recovery is definitely not immediate. Would love an update vid. You have a lot of fans that enjoy your content and rambling. One of the most down to earth reviewers and it’s very refreshing. I wish you well man. And a recovery that puts you better than where you started.
@BobJackson-zv1fh Жыл бұрын
What a nice looking board !!! You are a good shaper.
@BobJackson-zv1fh Жыл бұрын
That board looks AMAZING !!!!!
@francomunoz229 Жыл бұрын
Great board and great review man. Congrats
@ccozzarelli Жыл бұрын
Hello! What fins would you recommend for this board ? For 5 or 6 ft waves ?
@joeblow1942 Жыл бұрын
It’s been a year so how do you like it? Did you settle on the quad heel side and keel front side configuration?
@charleshawk6668 Жыл бұрын
I had a MOE, thing was too dang think a floaty for me. Im 5’6 160. Had to get rid of it and picked up another seaside and beyond lol
@charleshawk6668 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@timothyjones3260 Жыл бұрын
Did you prefer this board or the psycho killer lost board ? Cheers
@lawson45uk Жыл бұрын
Personally liked the psycho killer better as it’s a bit more suited to being an all rounder and I like quads but there both good boards and in a similar category. Definitely rate both models but prefer the lost for me personally as it will ride as a quad or a thruster and handle a good range of waves and just really forgoing and does everything well. Hope that helps. Cheers.
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What are your favourite fin templates and configurations to run with the quiver killer?
Love these videos. I've been keeping my eye out for a Gem off the back of these videos, but interested to know what your thoughts are on the TJ Pro?
Fab review. Just got one off eBay - the best longboard I’ve ever owned.
Hi, how does the the puddle jumper compare to the lost Hydra?
Hey! I have a bobby quad and would like to know if it would work with a split keel. Im 70kg and the board is 5'6 30L. Dont know what type of fins (there. Is diferent split keel on the deflow website)!!
Great review. 🤙
Will the tint Sunday turn to red color after a year?
I love my timbertek 6'10, I'm 79kg, but as I'm improving I wonder if it holds back my turns as I've bogged a few times on backside cutbacks. I've stuck a tail pad on it which looks awful but hopefully will cue me to have the foot further back.
I don't understand something. When you say the double concave channels water out towards the fins, that sounds good but there's water everywhere under the board. There's not just two torrents heading towards the fins.
Yeah fair comment and I’m definitely no hydrodynamics expert these are just the generally held understandings of the concepts. I guess it’s like an aeroplane too though the air is everywhere around the plane but the way it flows though the wings creates a pressure differential that causes lift. Same with fins ok they cause drag too but they are in the water and the difference in the foils creates “lift” or drive. If you bottom turned without fins in bot sure if you could leverage the same drive even if you had a more free down the line speed. Again I’m not really sure myself and neither are most people but those are the general documented concepts. Hope that helps. Cheers 😊
If you push a boat through water it directs the water flow and causes it to lift too. I know everything is in the water but the body has a speed that it moves through the water and that is what causes the interaction i think but again. No hydrodynamics experts. Cheers
A little late to the show. How do you compare this to the Sweet Potato?
Fish paddle jumper or hydra for a beginner small waves surfer?
Hi. Depends on your weight age ability etc but if your a genuine beginner in small waves you should probably be starting with something more like a 7’10” fun board or mini mal that’s beginner friendly and ride that as your only board for at least a year. You will get more waves and progress much quicker that way. Something like the puddle jumper might be good for someone that’s making the move from that point to intermediate as a first shorter board. Cheers.
@lawson45uk which one you will pick for you in extreme small waves?
How is this board on late drops/takeoffs? I've had a 7'2 FCD for years and it has save my arse many times on late drops, very forgiving, just a pinch of a weight shift back and I'm good. FCD is old and beat along with expensive, price range on this model skindog is perfect, but I'm older and slower so I only expect the late drops to increase. 🙂
what board you like more.v3 or pk?
PK personally but would probably depend on your style and the waves you surf. The V3 has a little more rocker and more narrow nose but still a pretty wide tail rippers seem to like them more. I like the PK better for its versatility wider nose flatter rocker. Sold that to my friend and he’s loving it too.
Ay Mate. I hope recovery is going well. Wishing you the best.
Hey Mark. Sorry for the late reply. Thanks very much for your kind comment. I’m getting there thanks. Still not back to surfing yet but starting to get more active slowly. Just been walking and taking things pretty easy though. Cheers. Hope you are well and getting waves.
Cheers. Keep at it.
Hi bud, where do you live? Are in the uk? Love the videos and reviews 👍
Cheers Paul. I’m from the UK but live in New Zealand
Hi Go Surf, how would you compare the South Island Fish to the Superblob. It seems like the fish is shaped for local conditions in mind and the superblob takes a lot of inspiration from the fish. Tossing up between the two models and would love to hear your thoughts.
Yeah the fish is more of a fishy ride as obvious as that may sound probably a bit more versatile too and heavier and more traditional in the bigger sizes. The super blob is more like a smaller wave board generally made in the lighter and more modern construction. Can be a bit less grippy too with the wide tail and no fish cut out. Both fun boards though. Maybe get a demo and see which you like best
What’s up, mate! If you were to pick one, which one would you pick TimberTech or thunderbolt? Is there a difference in weight between the two? Hope all is well! 🤙
Sorry for the late reply. Yeah definitely thunderbolt if I could. Think they are a bit note durable and better flex. Timber tech feels stiffer and a little heavier but some of that older ones could be prone to delam issues if not made right and looked after well. Thunderbolt is lighter and more lively. Cheers.
hi mate, im researching a lot about tuflite, and i have had a byrne mullet 6.3 for 12 years, this is by far the more durable stuff i found on this world, shame is no longer beeing produced, cheers.
Yeah those were nice boards. They could be a little stiff but still good. The new Thunderbolt boards are good but limited stuff available in shorter boards and very expensive now.
Brother you have awesome reviews and are so blessed to have as many boards that you have.
Did you ever try the Special T with a quad fin setup?
Hi sorry for the late reply. Never got that far unfortunately. Was going to give it a go but ended up having another surgery on my back and not back to surfing yet. Cheers.
Sorry to hear about the need for surgery. Hope that has gone well and you are on the road to surf recovery? @@lawson45uk
Does this board get into waves easy on windy days. Looking at a 7 footer
Hi sorry got the late reply. Yeah PU construction is usually a bit more steady getting into windy waves than the lighter export boards. The party crasher is a really good all round higher volume big guys short board kind of design so really versatile for an intermediate rider. Cheers.
Hey. Don't suppose you have any recommendations for private surf lessons at Sumner or Brighton? Thanks!
There are a few good people around. Would probably depend on your current level. If you are beginner learn to surf sumner are very good group lessons. If you want private or are more advanced I’m sure Aaron from learn to surf or one of the young guys would do one on one. I think Jack Tyro sometimes does lessons too. Cheers
Hi Thanks for the review I'm strugglling to decide, Special T 9' or Harley Ingleby HI4 9'1. For small weak waves (1 to 4ft), we don't have long clean peelers on the beach break I surf. Nose riding ability is great but you have to deal with a lot of close out and steep face when the waves hit the sand bar. What I need is to catch the wave early, and be able to ride the pocket if it isn’t nose rideable. The flater rocker & bottom of the T should make it a good paddler, but how would you compare it with the HI4? When things get more serious would the T still be in the game ? Regards, Daniel
Hi Daniel. Yeah that’s a tough one. Those are two of my favourite boards. Not ridden the Hi4 but really like the look of it. It’s gonna be so subjective to your waves and riding it’s hard to say but I think you have the right thoughts. I had been riding the special T in thunderbolt red before I got injured and use that for most waves and really enjoy it. Find it paddles well and performs well. Doesn’t feel that much like a signed fin. Suspect the Hi4 has a little more curve and a little more rocker so could suit a slightly more powerful or sectiony wave. Hard to say not having ridden it. The nose js bigger on the Hi4 too though. I think both could be good choices so probably trust your own judgment as sounds like you know what you want and understand the differences. Cheers
@@lawson45uk Thanks mate Take care 🤙
I’m trying to figure out if split keels would be nice on a seaside and beyond m. Wondering if the boxes are too far from eachother
Yeah I thought the fins were in a bit of a funny spot on the beyond myself. Found it could be a little grabby if the waves didn’t have much power or shape. Lot of people seem to find it better in bigger waves than smaller waves. On the seaside itself I much preferred the split keel to the machado seaside quads. Everyone I know really likes the seaside quad apart from me. No idea why
5'11 beanbag @ 45ltrs or 6'3 rnf retro @ 45ltrs What one would u suggest for maximum projection in knee high junk
Hi hard to say just on pure projection but the bean bag is definitely a more grovelly board and better at those tiny junky waves. It will flow in the pocket and dance around nicely. The RNF had more rocker and less width front and back so prefers a little more wave. Bean bag is the best grovel board I have had and the original sweet potato was also great. Cheers.
I have a lib tech QK and in big but fat head high beach break waves, it feels kinda sluggish. I’m using Al Merrick thrusters large. What fins do you recommend to spice up the QK / make it more snappy?
Is that in FCS or Futures. Fcs you could give the stretch SF4 a go if you want speed. The mayhem large are decent too if you just want more lively but don’t need too much if any extra drive.
@@lawson45uk hey thanks for reply. Futures. I was thinking of swapping for F8 Blackstix. What do you think?
Superb! Thank you for taking the time to share this. It’s been so helpful to understand how boards work.
Hi mate, which out of the CI AM Keels and the Machado Keels would you say for adding hold and stability to a twin? My pin tailed twin is a bit loose in bigger surf using the Jim Banks Hooker fins and want to tone it down a bit in overhead surf..
Hi just had a look at the hooker fin. That’s less area than the ci and machado thought it looks like he also has some others that are similar area and shape to the ci. I would say the ci and machado would both add a little hold. I think I would lean a little towards the ci myself. I think That machado is a touch bigger and more upright but the way the ci has sweep and back cut it’s probably a little more suited to hold and release while still providing so one responsiveness. The machado be a little more down the line speed oriented but since you want more speed control than speed creation I think the CI be be the go. Keels aren’t ideal for bigger waves for me personally but the ci is definitely more designed in that kinda way. Cheers
hi. which board would you consider for an intermediate surfer? i ride a 7 ft fun board. i'm 5'9" 182 lbs
Hi mate. I kept both for a long time but just hd a second spine surgery so sold both just before that. There both excellent boards. You can’t go too wrong with either. Probably let your preference for epoxy or PU or if you like your boards a bit heavier and more planted drive your decisions or even if something pops up second hand at a good price. The two I had were different lengths and volumes too so even my experience and outlook probably a little swayed. The retro rides a touch more retro and a little less slippery really depends on your style. If you like longer turns with good speed carry the retro is a little more of that and the seaside will perform a little more bit again all relative to what size you get. Both are excellent boards. Hope that helps
Your board looks sick. Congratulations.
Can u do a review of the cj nelson parallax?
Sorry don’t have access to boards or sponsors so just what I have myself. My friend has one and really likes it though.
Could you still knows ride these type of boards or like hang 10?
Yeah with enough skill for sure
You mentioned you had it in 6'10, do you think it works well for longboard days?
Hi mate. Yeah it’s obviously not going to quite be a longboard in terms of early in and glide but yeah I remember having lots of fun on smaller days. You can almost nose ride it. So yeah definitely could be on your radar as a mid length for a range of waves. Turns good and good wave count. I think it’s fairly high volume but that suited me. I definitely remember having a lot of fun on it. Hope that helps. Cheers
Hey Dave, great review as always! There aren't a lot of detailed reviews for this board so I thought I would share my thoughts after riding it for a month. I picked up the 7'6" during the recent sale (6'1" and 215lbs) after seeing my buddy hanging 5 on it in Malibu. I rode it in everything from 1 foot mush to head high sets and it really shined when the waves got good. I think it will be a great step up board for when waves get bigger this winter. The Board has a hug sweet spot and on bigger sets, you can literally 2 stroke into waves. I agree with you that it's not a paddle beast as it tends to nose dive a bit, but there is a weird things with this board where you wont think you are in the wave then it "locks" and you start flying down the face. Hard to explain, but you know it when you feel it, almost like hitting the go button and dropping in like a skateboard from the top. The 2+1turns really well on rail and its hold is incredible when the wave pitches + if you shift your feet around you can link sections and blast around flat spots / whitewater. I have a quad set for it but haven't found the need to try them yet. Im using it almost like a big guy short board / sitting out the back a bit with the long boarders and have been really stoked on it. It tends to slows your waves down and gives you time to think about what you want to do next on the wave. As a big guy it it helps even the playing field with people sitting out the back and lets you get in before the guys sitting on the inside on short boards. Long rides, great hold, turns much better than expected and its super stable. Thunderbolt Red is flexy and feels incredible as usual. Love everything minus the paddling but getting used to it. Board Reference - Seaside & Beyond 7'4" - Great but with lowish volume, it just felt too long for how it paddled and turned. My shorter Seaside paddles about the same but with less board to swing on turns. Ova turns better IMO. - 7'0" Outlier 2+1 is incredible for small or mushy surf but tends to slide out on steep waves or backside on anything that is head high since it so flat. Paddles better than Ova and glides like a long board but much less hold on good waves. This board seems to be a perfect middle ground and great shape for most of the days I surf. I bet the 7'0" would be a great 1 board quiver for most people 140-185 and 7'6-8' for big boys 185+. I rode it at Malibu, Porto, Middles / Uppers, San O, Point Breaks in Mexico. Cheers!
Hi Great detailed feedback really appreciate that. Hope it helps others too..Not sure if it was you I was talking to but sold mine as I had to have another back operation so cleared out a lot of boards till I work out where I am at and what I can do after recovery. It was a friend that bought it though and he said exactly the same. He's able to use it in everything from smaller to bigger waves and finds it's smoothing his surfing out and a good option for when the wave doesn't have quite the shape for his shorter board here which is often. I think the Outlier would be a good one from our local wave too from everything I hear very flat faced a lot of the time so we dont need much rocker and do need help to get in and make sections.I agree too does everything nicely as a single with sides I think that was the main intention of the fin set up and good hold. For me it was just a little harder to duck dive than I was expecting which was quite surprising. For everything else it was really on point as an all rounder your kinda rarely on the "wrong board" for the conditions when it does most things well. Anyways glad your stoked and thanks for your time commenting. I wont ramble on myself for too long as you nailed it with your description and comparison. Cheers :-)
Nice review 🤙🏽. Your board looks good mate
Thanks, well done!!
Ho Dave thanks for your video! I am looking for a mid to ride when I am just lazy or want to to cruise. I am 31, good paddler and was thinking about the ova over the mid6 or the moe just because it is more versatile. a mid 6 for my understanding surf like a short board basically with more liters ecc ecc. like the fact that the ova change between the fin set up and love skindog surfboards and I think it can be an awsome travel board to have in the quiver. I just came from a Maldives trip and I think with a quad set up would have performed well also int the “juicy” days we had for an early entry and to have right amount of speed especially in backhand trains. I found one discounted one 30% brand new and 7’. I am deciding if go for it in these days
Hi mate. Yeah I was keen on a Mid 6 but thought the 7 was a bit refined lower volume and quite a bit of rocket for me but would make an excellent “sensible and conservancy ” step up im short and like to be able to duck dive my boards too so 7 is about the limit of length I can do that easily on. The 7’6” mid 6 looks quite different to the 7 more volume and a bit more width so doesn’t look as blade like. I actually sold my ova. A friend bought it and he’s loving it for exactly what you said. He can ride it in small and bigger waves and likes the fin options. He’s in pretty good shape and taller too so seems to suit him well. I found it a little hard to duck dive think the nose is a little wider than I thought so even though it’s thin it was a bit harder to sink than the one I made myself and that’s much thicker. If you think it rip suit you it probably will it’s pretty versatile nice to ride lots of options and the thunderbolt tech is great. Especially if your getting a bargain price. Hope that helps.
how do you feel it catches waves compared to a parallax or a special t ? looking for a groveller kind of longboard when waves are small and gutless
Hi. Not ridden the Parallax sorry but this one catches waves a bit better than the 9’0” Special T I slightly prefer the 9’0” special T myself as I’m short so find the special T more responsive at not too big a sacrifice on wave catching. If you we’re talking the special T in a 9’6” it may paddle better than the 9’4” but again not ridden both to compare sorry. The Haven did definitely add a bit of wave catching ability compared to the other 9’0” boards I had too to be fair. I was catching more small waves more easily. Just that bit more trim power. I find there is quite a difference between 9’0” and 9’6” boards in both the way they catch waves and ride. I always find 9’6” a little bigger than I want personally but if I were closer to 6ft than 5’6” it might be a different story. I like the 9’0” Special T as a do it all board myself for the local conditions. Cheers.
I’m 5’10 170lbs and surf 30-33L shortboards primarily. I just picked up one of these in 6’1 36.5L as a mini step up. I don’t surf anything bigger than 8ft so don’t need a true step up. Next swell that comes through I’ll let you know how it handled it.
8 months since last post? this guy Alive?
Hi mate. Unfortunately had another prolapsed disk in my spine that required an operation so been out of action and out of the water for months. Operation done and been recovering. Not got much to report on surfboards sorry. Will do an update eventually but won’t be posting much anymore. Cheers.
@@lawson45uk Hope so man like watching your vids from the USA :)
If you ever get a chance to buy a 7' Outlier just do it. You will love it.
I have the cream colored 7' outlier ands its incredible in small-medium / mushy waves. After my first session I started calling it the Cream Dream and ride it about 50% of the time. Almost like an ultimate groveler but also handles larger waves when they are rolling or off a point. Once it gets punchy or powerful it tends to slide out on the bottom turns just because of how flat the rocker is. 1-4 foot it catches everything and turns really well for how long it is.
Exactly...so basically perfect for Dave's local conditions most of the time. I think he would love it. My mate and I who have one both say...never leave home without it. @@Ironlung330
Hoping you are doing ok
Hi mate. Yeah not too bad now thanks. Had a second disk prolapse in my back which required surgery so that’s taken me out for a while. Be a while longer before I can try to surf again too just playing it safe and getting myself back to normal life first. Cheers. Sold a lot of my shorter boards now too. 46 plus a couple of back surgeries I think it’s time to accept that it’s ok to let the board do a lot if the work so probably be the longboard and maybe a mid length ride here and there for me. Don’t need many boards anymore.
Totally agree with the longer board sentiments. I’ve got a Harley Ingleby longboard quiver and have no interest in going back. I tried the HI4, loved it, and found some really good deals on secondary market. Hihp is awesome in bigger (mostly slopey) surf. Diamond drive is a dinger too. I might sell the HI4 and just keep those two. Haven’t decided. But I should t keep all of em! Lol I hope your back is doing better. Surgery and recovery sucks. I too have back issues. Get RFA done about once a year. Multiple herniated disks. Will end up needing surgery eventually. So I get it. Back surgery is scary. And recovery is definitely not immediate. Would love an update vid. You have a lot of fans that enjoy your content and rambling. One of the most down to earth reviewers and it’s very refreshing. I wish you well man. And a recovery that puts you better than where you started.
What a nice looking board !!! You are a good shaper.
That board looks AMAZING !!!!!
Great board and great review man. Congrats
Hello! What fins would you recommend for this board ? For 5 or 6 ft waves ?
It’s been a year so how do you like it? Did you settle on the quad heel side and keel front side configuration?
I had a MOE, thing was too dang think a floaty for me. Im 5’6 160. Had to get rid of it and picked up another seaside and beyond lol
Thanks for the video.
Did you prefer this board or the psycho killer lost board ? Cheers
Personally liked the psycho killer better as it’s a bit more suited to being an all rounder and I like quads but there both good boards and in a similar category. Definitely rate both models but prefer the lost for me personally as it will ride as a quad or a thruster and handle a good range of waves and just really forgoing and does everything well. Hope that helps. Cheers.