I honestly prefer the MCA-RK47 condenser. I suppose it could be mic placement.. it sounded more natural
@GuitarJesse75 ай бұрын
Came for the mic shootout, stayed for the lovey sax playing. Thanks!
@spankypdx3 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@mullintraxx7 ай бұрын
I like the Samson set up to but don’t like the sound that mic gets. Did you figure out a solution?
@spankypdx7 ай бұрын
I think the Audix mic has the best sound. For a while I was using the Audix mic and clip, with the Samson transmitter fastened to it with zip ties. But that’s not a very elegant solution. I eventually went back to the Samson mic, it’s capable of sounding decent with the right mic placement. I like mine slightly off-axis up near the body to capture more overtones for a fuller sound.
@LosFicosMusic10 ай бұрын
Great job!
@joshmcdzz6925 Жыл бұрын
The sterling sounds bad!!! Not like a ribbon at all..
@2249sw Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarity. I love my NUX
@tonysales3687 Жыл бұрын
nice test. i currently use an audio technica but ive done so many gigs with it and it is looking a bit shabby and one of the antenas fell off lol. still works though. i just ordered a nux B6 which should arrive in the next few weeks. all the best. tony (tenor , alto, and nord piano,s ) i liked the lesser key noise on the nux and overall sound is good. and can always adjust tone on my mixer.
@davidrobinson7153 Жыл бұрын
Agree your comments on lifeless versus sizzle, but I think the nux might be good enough for my level of ability. In a pub situation, I'm not sure the consumer would tell any difference. Yours has been by far the best demo on KZread, many thanks.
@peterchoe Жыл бұрын
nice chops!
@PaulTheTrombonist Жыл бұрын
Sterling wins with my ears! Nice playing
@PaulTheTrombonist Жыл бұрын
amazing what these low price ribbons can do though . you can use them all on a session!
@LaloRojasSax Жыл бұрын
Great playing!
@spankypdx Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DrunkDuckXD Жыл бұрын
I like the cascade
@spankypdx Жыл бұрын
That's my favorite mic for trumpet and also for directly in front of a guitar amp.
@mure42562 жыл бұрын
Golden age sound the best.
@spankypdx Жыл бұрын
I liked the sound of it best on my saxophone too, but I like the Cascade better for other instruments.
@NovelMeetsEvilPodcast2 жыл бұрын
The ST170 has more of a null than this demonstrates but it’s still an awesome video to learn about affordable ribbons. You’re only really in the null area of the middle mic and you can hear it. Thanks!
@spankypdx2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah, this isn’t the most scientific method to test mics, for sure! I did end up with a favorite mic out of it, and the others have ended up being my go-to for other applications. The Fathead sounds amazing in front of a guitar amp, and I love the sound the ST170 gets on low brass instruments like trombones and tubas. None of them are anywhere near a Coles 4038 but they’re not meant to be.
@NovelMeetsEvilPodcast2 жыл бұрын
@@spankypdx And some of people’s fever about their 💰 mic locker is gear-porn (Hey guys, I own a Faberge egg!) It’s obviously not all hype re: Coles, but we have access to great cheap mics compared to the past. Null!
@kimmaguire62 жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank you!
@spankypdx Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@hollyrobisonstoryteller59462 жыл бұрын
You rock!
@phoenixrising15762 жыл бұрын
The sterling sounded more up front but not so well on other 2 tests? How do u think it would handle piano using a Tascam model 12 +58db gain? My concern with Ribbons is noise. How u manage to get them so quiet and what would be an affordable way to drive the passives? Many thanks and I love your gorgeous playing which deserves a Ribbon for sure! Much love my man : )
@spankypdx2 жыл бұрын
I agree the Sterling is a bigger more up-front sound, the fact that it’s powered might be part of the reason why. Overall I didn’t like the tone on my sax as much on the Sterling as with the other two though. I might not necessarily want to use a ribbon mic for piano, a stereo pair of small condensers work better IMHO. I use a pair of Røde NT5 condensers in XY formation about 6 inches above the middle of the strings. Preamps make a huge difference as far as noise. Get a preamp that’s as clean as possible, especially for the passive ribbons which need more gain. Some people also will use an additional box like a Cloudlifter; I’ve heard good things about those but haven’t tried one myself. I use an Apogee Element 88 which has the lowest noise of any pre I’ve ever tried. Apogee pretty much invented D/A converters too so there’s that.
@phoenixrising15762 жыл бұрын
@@spankypdx hey cheers. It is very good for the price I guess. I was looking at rodes, oktava and line audio mics. There's also a small company in Australia I found called 3u audio and for budget custom ribbons called No Hype Audio. Thanks : ) I'll check out the apogee 88.
@in.der.welt.sein. Жыл бұрын
As said above, the Sterling is an active ribbon mic, which needs phantom power, so that gives it a higher output. As for passive ribbon mics, you can use something like the cloud lifter, or any of the other "mic pre-pre amp booster" for an extra 25db of gain, which allows for a lower noise floor.
@joshmcdzz6925 Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixrising1576 I have heard alot of folks say 'nah nah, don't use ribbon for pianos only SDCs' but I beg to disagree. RIbbons' have a high fidelity reproduction when it comes to acoustic instruments and way easier to eq than SDCs esp very colored ones like the Rode NT5. If you can't afford a KM184, get a ribbon. I guess the Sterling would sound better on the piano because of its active circuitry. If you haven't bought any yet, try the ART AR5 active ribbon, it seems to sound better than the sterling and nearly like the Golden age. As for noise, passive ribbons have a noise level that will NEVER make its way into your recording ( pretty low noise ) but the active ones will have a self noise just like any condenser. I wouldn't worry about noise at all. It's the least thing to worry about. Get a Triton fethead for dynamics to get a +27db gain ( fethead's got one for passive/Dynamic mics and one for condensers/active mics )
@chrisb14602 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I like the Golden Age mic. Beautiful playing too.
@spankypdx2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The Golden Age is my favorite too.
@tedc66942 жыл бұрын
I havent opened the box of my new st170 but look forward to trying it out. $150/ea on black friday gc
@sequoiamerritt43093 жыл бұрын
Great arrangement!
@RedraspusMusic4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Pete! Great stuff!
@Nicodrigo9 жыл бұрын
Serial Number ? Price? Thanks !
@spankypdx13 жыл бұрын
@MarkStau1234: The video quality was already bad because the room was so dark. I tried putting it through a brightness/contrast filter which made it worse due to all of the color artifacts. When I converted it to B/W first, and THEN put it through the brightness/contrast filter, it ended up looking slightly better, and that also gave it that nice vintage quality-Bonus! But all in all it was filmed with a cheap camcorder so not really much could be done about the quality in general.
@Aloprado_oficial14 жыл бұрын
very nice
@revrob17515 жыл бұрын
A great little band playing a great jazz tune.
@Mikenno15 жыл бұрын
That was so much fun, even though we all got confused at the end.
@Sjobeck715 жыл бұрын
What a Riot!! :D
@theleequa15 жыл бұрын
I was at this one and then wandered onto Hawthorne to another fun and silly street celebration! What a night! What a great feeling to be proud to be an American!!
@spankypdx15 жыл бұрын
Which mic are you talking about? the mic that's in the picture clipped onto the bell of my sax is an Audix ADX20i - I love it, I can't say enough good things about it. It's well-designed and well-made. But the video was recorded using a JVC camcorder with a built-in mic, I have no idea what kind of hardware they put in those.
@spankypdx15 жыл бұрын
The cameraman was moving across to try and get a better angle, he moved to a different position & wasn't standing directly in front of the stage mains anymore, so the camcorder's built in mic picked up a slightly different pattern. I was going to try and fix it using audio software, but I decided to leave it alone rather than process it too much.
@action30216 жыл бұрын
im playin the drums to this song in my band class
@spankypdx16 жыл бұрын
It's actually Greg Garrett on trumpet; Randy Mueller is a great player also, he has played with my 17-piece big band in the past.
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Golden Age R2, sideways!
I honestly prefer the MCA-RK47 condenser. I suppose it could be mic placement.. it sounded more natural
Came for the mic shootout, stayed for the lovey sax playing. Thanks!
Thanks for checking it out!
I like the Samson set up to but don’t like the sound that mic gets. Did you figure out a solution?
I think the Audix mic has the best sound. For a while I was using the Audix mic and clip, with the Samson transmitter fastened to it with zip ties. But that’s not a very elegant solution. I eventually went back to the Samson mic, it’s capable of sounding decent with the right mic placement. I like mine slightly off-axis up near the body to capture more overtones for a fuller sound.
Great job!
The sterling sounds bad!!! Not like a ribbon at all..
Thanks for the clarity. I love my NUX
nice test. i currently use an audio technica but ive done so many gigs with it and it is looking a bit shabby and one of the antenas fell off lol. still works though. i just ordered a nux B6 which should arrive in the next few weeks. all the best. tony (tenor , alto, and nord piano,s ) i liked the lesser key noise on the nux and overall sound is good. and can always adjust tone on my mixer.
Agree your comments on lifeless versus sizzle, but I think the nux might be good enough for my level of ability. In a pub situation, I'm not sure the consumer would tell any difference. Yours has been by far the best demo on KZread, many thanks.
nice chops!
Sterling wins with my ears! Nice playing
amazing what these low price ribbons can do though . you can use them all on a session!
Great playing!
Thanks!
I like the cascade
That's my favorite mic for trumpet and also for directly in front of a guitar amp.
Golden age sound the best.
I liked the sound of it best on my saxophone too, but I like the Cascade better for other instruments.
The ST170 has more of a null than this demonstrates but it’s still an awesome video to learn about affordable ribbons. You’re only really in the null area of the middle mic and you can hear it. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, this isn’t the most scientific method to test mics, for sure! I did end up with a favorite mic out of it, and the others have ended up being my go-to for other applications. The Fathead sounds amazing in front of a guitar amp, and I love the sound the ST170 gets on low brass instruments like trombones and tubas. None of them are anywhere near a Coles 4038 but they’re not meant to be.
@@spankypdx And some of people’s fever about their 💰 mic locker is gear-porn (Hey guys, I own a Faberge egg!) It’s obviously not all hype re: Coles, but we have access to great cheap mics compared to the past. Null!
Yes. Thank you!
You are so welcome!
You rock!
The sterling sounded more up front but not so well on other 2 tests? How do u think it would handle piano using a Tascam model 12 +58db gain? My concern with Ribbons is noise. How u manage to get them so quiet and what would be an affordable way to drive the passives? Many thanks and I love your gorgeous playing which deserves a Ribbon for sure! Much love my man : )
I agree the Sterling is a bigger more up-front sound, the fact that it’s powered might be part of the reason why. Overall I didn’t like the tone on my sax as much on the Sterling as with the other two though. I might not necessarily want to use a ribbon mic for piano, a stereo pair of small condensers work better IMHO. I use a pair of Røde NT5 condensers in XY formation about 6 inches above the middle of the strings. Preamps make a huge difference as far as noise. Get a preamp that’s as clean as possible, especially for the passive ribbons which need more gain. Some people also will use an additional box like a Cloudlifter; I’ve heard good things about those but haven’t tried one myself. I use an Apogee Element 88 which has the lowest noise of any pre I’ve ever tried. Apogee pretty much invented D/A converters too so there’s that.
@@spankypdx hey cheers. It is very good for the price I guess. I was looking at rodes, oktava and line audio mics. There's also a small company in Australia I found called 3u audio and for budget custom ribbons called No Hype Audio. Thanks : ) I'll check out the apogee 88.
As said above, the Sterling is an active ribbon mic, which needs phantom power, so that gives it a higher output. As for passive ribbon mics, you can use something like the cloud lifter, or any of the other "mic pre-pre amp booster" for an extra 25db of gain, which allows for a lower noise floor.
@@phoenixrising1576 I have heard alot of folks say 'nah nah, don't use ribbon for pianos only SDCs' but I beg to disagree. RIbbons' have a high fidelity reproduction when it comes to acoustic instruments and way easier to eq than SDCs esp very colored ones like the Rode NT5. If you can't afford a KM184, get a ribbon. I guess the Sterling would sound better on the piano because of its active circuitry. If you haven't bought any yet, try the ART AR5 active ribbon, it seems to sound better than the sterling and nearly like the Golden age. As for noise, passive ribbons have a noise level that will NEVER make its way into your recording ( pretty low noise ) but the active ones will have a self noise just like any condenser. I wouldn't worry about noise at all. It's the least thing to worry about. Get a Triton fethead for dynamics to get a +27db gain ( fethead's got one for passive/Dynamic mics and one for condensers/active mics )
Great vid. I like the Golden Age mic. Beautiful playing too.
Thanks! The Golden Age is my favorite too.
I havent opened the box of my new st170 but look forward to trying it out. $150/ea on black friday gc
Great arrangement!
Yeah, Pete! Great stuff!
Serial Number ? Price? Thanks !
@MarkStau1234: The video quality was already bad because the room was so dark. I tried putting it through a brightness/contrast filter which made it worse due to all of the color artifacts. When I converted it to B/W first, and THEN put it through the brightness/contrast filter, it ended up looking slightly better, and that also gave it that nice vintage quality-Bonus! But all in all it was filmed with a cheap camcorder so not really much could be done about the quality in general.
very nice
A great little band playing a great jazz tune.
That was so much fun, even though we all got confused at the end.
What a Riot!! :D
I was at this one and then wandered onto Hawthorne to another fun and silly street celebration! What a night! What a great feeling to be proud to be an American!!
Which mic are you talking about? the mic that's in the picture clipped onto the bell of my sax is an Audix ADX20i - I love it, I can't say enough good things about it. It's well-designed and well-made. But the video was recorded using a JVC camcorder with a built-in mic, I have no idea what kind of hardware they put in those.
The cameraman was moving across to try and get a better angle, he moved to a different position & wasn't standing directly in front of the stage mains anymore, so the camcorder's built in mic picked up a slightly different pattern. I was going to try and fix it using audio software, but I decided to leave it alone rather than process it too much.
im playin the drums to this song in my band class
It's actually Greg Garrett on trumpet; Randy Mueller is a great player also, he has played with my 17-piece big band in the past.
This is a nice video about swing
Yeah Larry!!!!!!!!!!!
i love the black n white editing :) x