Why Rutland Door Controls
We are an established global company that manufacture Life Saving Devices that last. Our Head office and Distribution hub is in Chesterfield UK and we distribute all over the world.
Our mission is to enhance life safety at every fire door.
We are here to provide all customers with an exceptional experience - reach out to us on the contact details below.
Rutland Trading Co Ltd
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Hello I seen that you gave my friend Jess a clear door closer and I was wondering if I can have one to thx
Hello Rutland, do you know that little door that you’ve got right there did you make it or did you buy off somewhere cause I would love to have one of them
And I am a door closer, collect and I have actually got one of your closes. They’re really good. I believe it is a Rutland TS6204
Mine is the TS9205, the clear one like used in this video
😂😂😂that specialist is 00..gap off the doors is 9mm on the top.so we should stop looking that video from start😅😅
thank you so much for the clear explanation with the visual guide
Great video, however could just put the upper plate on first , that’s how I did it
Can it be installed vertically? To a door that opens 180 degrees from top to bottom?
Two errors that I found whilst fitting. Firstly, if you fit the top slide bar from a right hinge (demonstration shows left hinge) then the countersinks are the wrong side and the mount screws are proud. Secondly the instructions state leave a 28mm gap between mounting holes (top fixing to bottom fixing). This is impossible as you will find the connector bar has no room to move. This gap is determined by the gap in the top of your door so I suggest eyeing up the gap with the connector bar in place for a better fit. You can see in the demonstration that he left too big a gap and the connector bar is on a slight slope which is better than what I did by following the instructions and not allowing hardly a gap at all.
Hello, to answer your questions, firstly the slide rail does only have countersunk holes on one side, but there is no need to flip the slide rail over, as it is just a case of moving the slide block along the rail to the other end, if fitting right hand. Also, the TS.11205 instructions have since been updated, with the measurement now being 32mm, rather than 28mm.
That's all fine but there's no reveal at the top of the door
Hello, for fitting in a reveal, the maximum size reveal this closer can be fitted in is 60mm. For anything more we would usually recommend fitting the closer on the other side if possible, or using a concealed door closer. www.rutlanduk.co.uk/its-11204-concealed-cam-action-door-closer
Problem is when Somone forces the door closed it will explode in your face I've seen it happen
Hello Emily, so you are aware our 9000 range (TS.9205 and TS.9206), have a unique poppet valve which prevents this from happening.
@@RutlandDoorControls oh right that's really impressive cool
💬 In answer to Chris Waterman's idea, 'How in this digital age there should be a quick way to replace BS476 in certification with EN 1634?', our answer to this is "definitely not possible". You cannot elevate BS 476 testing to EN 1634-1. Each application tested to BS 476 requires completely new testing to the European EN 1634, hence the concern from the industry that it will be costing ballpark £10k each test... and the rest, if you include admin and manufacturing costs. And that's for every fire safety product detail affected. Unfortunately, it is not a simple, quick, low-cost 'search and replace' digital world exercise.
My door is intermittently stiff!! It opens perfectly dozens of times in a row, then it suddenly becomes really hard to open for the next 10 or so times. Then it returns to working perfectly again. Do you have any suggestions?
Horrible video. No proper sound. Bad accent. Bad explanation.
It didn't seem as easy As that on site lol😂
You cannot alter the actual pressure required to open the door with this model. Absolutely useless if you are old or infirm. You need a model that you can alter the effort required to open the door .This isn't it.
Excellent 👍
I'm relieved that you produced this video because the instructions that come with the closer are appallingly bad. GCSE fail bad - I can't believe someone actually got paid to produce such awful diagrams. In the diagram it mentions nothing about how the template refers to fitting on the pull or push side. The diagram suggests that the two sides of the template are for left or right handed doors. Let's hope all the effort went into the design and manufacture because ZERO EFFORT went into producing the instructions. If you care about your customers then include a usable diagram produced by someone who knows how to communicate.Maybe even include some text to let people know what you are TRYING to say!Jeez- how much does ink cost??? It's not as if you have to pay someone to type each set of instructions by hand.
This is in the classic Eastern tradition.You spend millions developing a product and tuppence 'apenny on translating the instructions into garbled English that no one can understand.
Done 100s all on pull side my first push one tomorrow thanks so much for a great vudio perfect
What's that final adjustment that you missed for? On one side furthest from you??
Wow nice boss 👌👌okay
Always look to an English professional for exact fitting and explanation. Very well done thanks. And I’m an Aussie.
Is the backcheck the best method of stopping the door from opening too quickly when caught by high winds? We recently had an injury where the door was opened, the wind caught it and it yanked the persons arm back. Thanks
Thank you for your interest in this video .Unfortunately backcheck does not prevent winds from catching a door and opening with the force of the wind as it relies more on an instant force rather than a continued force, such as wind, we don't recommend relying on backcheck when used on exterior doors for exactly this reason, especially when the door can extend past the door closer arm and clash with an exterior wall. We always suggest a safety barrier to protect wall/door damage. Hope this helps
Just fitted one fantastic product great instructions very pleased Adrian
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Very helpful video but I was failing totally to adjust the two speed control screws correctly until I realised my door was a left push and opposite to yours which meant the valve screws were the other way round! Doh!
hopefully you'll remember to view the valve adjustments +/- symbols next time ;-) all good lessons though :-)
Good sir G
really interesting guys. I missed the live, so this is great. Such a can of worms to deal with, but it absolutely has to happen, and all doors be third party certified.
Whether installing on push or pull side, is the door still easy to open even though it now closes slowly?
Thank you for your interest in this video, either pulling the door or pushing the door to exit a room is not affected by the speed of close and latching speed adjustment settings as these settings only control the speed of the oil flowing back into the chambers, thus allowing you to adjust the speed of close. Hope this helps
Dear sir I will be have a problem gp3 the problem is when the glass door is closed that time very fast come when open after left so please you can give to me the solution
is it true that fire doors must have minimum size 3 door closers? the one i have is WAY too strong for a commercially available 760mm plywood fire door.. what closers are you supposed to use with these smaller domestic doors?
Size 3 is a guide for fire doors, which comes from; the minimum closing force for a fire door is 18 Newtons at the leading edge of the door. In EN1154 testing Standard EN3 has a range of 18 -26 Newton closing force.. But practically if your door is narrower, then what you need to work to is the minimum 18 Newtons at the leading edge of the door. So on a 726 wide door you would easily achieve this with EN2 size closer. So if you use a power adjustable closer you can wind the power up or down from the factory set size 3, to suit your door, trust this helps. Call Rutland technical team on 01246261491 for more. Thanks
@@RutlandDoorControls thanks i waill call them. i dont have a power adjustable unfortunately but i managed to find mounting instructions to make it size 2 power.. still a bit hard to open tho
Great video! I have a gold Rutland door closer on my bedroom door.
Sounds Great! Thank you.
Im having problem which is. It is too heavy to open the door. I dont know why. Any suggestion?
Hi Adam, there is a process of elimination to this. Could a member of our customer service team give you a call? Alternatively, please send images of the closer(s) to [email protected] with your enquiry, and one of our team would gladly be of assistance.
Am having a problem to open the door
I'm having problems with opening tension and my door closer just have ar the hinge side the latch and speed valves screws, an a big female Allen screw, so how can I reduce tension on this one, thanks for the help.
Hello Rodrigo, thanks for your question. The female Allen screw on the end of the closer will turn several revolutions, turn clockwise to increase the power or anti clockwise to decrease the power. If you have an articulated type arm closer, and is fitted on the pull side of the door, then you also have another trick you can play - the little bracket (shoe) that is screwed to the door frame can be turned over by taking the two screws out the top of the arm sliding out the metal bar and turning over. This moves the pivot point very slightly and therefore this increases the power of the latch. The long side of shoe towards the hinge is normal, or short side towards the hinge is stronger power at the latch. Trust this helps.
Excellent Video and explanation. There are seven of these units in our apartments, all wrongly adjusted ,so it seems .One of them is the push type fitted on the exterior of the door. My own one is mounted "upside down" ,.Does this make any difference? Just downloaded your installation sheet looks like its correct for right hand door hinges (from inside)
Glad the instruction sheet was helpful!
It's pushing the door, not pulling the door.
It's called the "pull side" of the door because from this side someone would need to pull to enter
Thank you for interest in this video, pull side relates to when a person is inside a room to exit, pull to exit. Push side is again inside the room if you wish to exit. hope this helps
Does the cover come in the box already or do you have to buy separately
Hello, We have a cover that fits this unit, we do have codes which have the unit with or without a cover which gives customers the option. If you send your enquiry to [email protected] or call us on 01246 261491 we will be able to advise. Thanks
Well, that makes it easy to adjust! On top of a door close well above head height
Roger Schultz I have a 5 inch difference between the door and the jam above, have a thick wall. What difference will that make?
Thanks 👍🏼
Thank you so much for the clear instructions ... It helped me a lot
You are welcome!
Hi Glad I watched this. The template / instructions did not fully explain about the 90 degree angle on the arm. Excellent product
Glad it was useful Robin.
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Max 100kg ???
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This guy is funny, man
How can I install a door closer on a glass door without any frame on it
I've seen this being done recently very dangerous due to the weight of the door closer simply get a block of thick wood measure your door with then use the strongest glue in the world to stick to the glass and bobs Ur uncle carefully fit the door closer onto the wood on glass door then attach the arm to the frame just make sure the arm isn't 2 strong 💪 make the arm weak so when the door closer closes the door there isn't excess pressure put onto the glass door
What language is his speaking is he German
I m in India how to get this product?
How do I fix a squeky door closer?
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Excellent demonstration. I fitted one of these and made much simpler with this clear methodical explanation.
You have presented a great tutorial. If you ever set up these closers to allow the door to swing 180°. There seem to be much confusion in the construction world on how to go about this without the closure binding before the door Reaches its full swing.