You don't believe right now? It's OK. God is not flustered. This is what you do.... Say to God... the Most High: God Most High.... I don't think that I believe in You, because I don't think that You exist... But if You do and if You love me, then please show Yourself. Please speak to me and show me your essence..... - Do this out loud.... in sincerity (some people like to talk to God like He is a poodle they are trying to get to jump through a hoop at a circus.... Don't do that.. attitude is so important).
@FpskenyКүн бұрын
me and my bpd wife married young and i failed her didnt know emotional intimacy was big part of relationships. probably the sole reason we broke down and now im learning to be a better communicator
@SambaBall-nn9ce2 күн бұрын
optimism bias???
@ericnorwood6522 күн бұрын
Yeah, I guess I have been a "pretend" Christian long enough. I don't go to service often and my prayer life ain't shit. I shout profanities on the street because of traffic, I eat like a pig, and I don't support the faith community. I have never gone on missions and I suspect I never will. I do not partake in communion, and when I turned in last night, all I could "pray" was "Fuck god." The very idea of saying, "I love Christ" causes me shame.
@ErnstHeinze-iw4gq3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Helps me overcome the ongoing trauma imposed by all religious people around me online and in real life besides the other blind brainwashed people who kill themselves with modern "food", chemicals, perfumes, cosmetics, "medicine" and dentistry besides electromagnetic radiation and air and water pollution and hence our food as well is full of all that poison and lacking nutritional. I trust Nature and good human beings and I try to be authentic and share what I know to heal people naturally. Be well, everyone!
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
i would not believe in something i know is false even though i would be happier.actually i wouldn,t be happier. because believing the lie is the path to destruction.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
i know i was there. nihilism. the enemy of meaning.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
you are right you can,t trust personal expierence as much as PEOPLE want it to be. there is only one way for you to know YHWH and that is actually to see YHWH in person.......face to face.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
the reason why i believe YHWH/yeshuah haMashiach, is because i didn,t choose him. he choose me. not of my own. no. of him, thats all. what i do know is that even allthough we all had similair spiritual expierences they are not all EXACTLY the same and do not come all from the same god. so how do i know from what god it is and what the cause of that expierence is?. well when it is aligned to YHWH nature. and also i don,t use drugs that trigers those experiences. and yes. they are actually wired into our brains. YHWH did not create us without mind comunications.
@rikk3193 күн бұрын
The worst are prosperity gospel Christians. "Oh, he's poor, he must not have enough faith...he deserves what he got." Jesus was poor--so I guess he deserves what he got, too.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
well the reason why christians are often so nasty is often because they have a persecution complex. and that persecution complex has gone terrifiyngly to far into there psychi.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
the universe just seems far too complex to have come about naturally. therefore god created it. that is indeed very much an appeal to ignorance fallacy. especially when you start to ak these people, but did god not create the natural too?.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
to be honost i don,t think that it is a lack of evidence problem. you see.......you need to go to the core of believe, and that is the never ending debth or rather said road of discovery of God. and.......the fact that you often end up in those endless cycles are often the result of lack of knoledge, because most people don,t read the bible enough.
@GERBERTH-r8y3 күн бұрын
some people indeed start posting bible verses. if you don,t know the point of that. than go figure it out. and who says they are countering your arguments? what type of verses do they post? i am honestly interested.
@walkerston14 күн бұрын
2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 1 Timothy 4:1 KJV Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
@ALove-q2c4 күн бұрын
Sitting in an Airstream ?
@Blue55_r4 күн бұрын
I know Christianity is a false religion and it doesn’t make any sense but guys being Atheists is more worse 😢. You have to believe in God❤ try studying other religions
@cherryg64344 күн бұрын
Everything it is about perspective, personal story and willingness to belive or not in this or that. Regards.
@lancelotdufrane4 күн бұрын
As always.. Clay I enjoy the mind exercise of another INFJ. My solitary life suits me, yet causes others to question my choices. My commitment. Isolation. I allow so few Into my peace. Our culture is so narcissistic. Been there. No thanks.
@GERBERTH-r8y4 күн бұрын
your entire life is one gargantuan question mark. YHWH has learnd me that when that is, he is there. because he is still pulling you. which means he is not really the one who needs explanation.
@DYXH0RN4 күн бұрын
That's why I prefer direct experience without intrepretion and see life as it is. All of believe are just stories made up in our mind distractions from reality. Im wondering if you still argue with believers?
@liliamedina52595 күн бұрын
I wish i could give a hundred likes to this work instead of just one. Great job!
@anastasiabatyr83255 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I think you already know what faith actually is. It's like mbti to me. It's not scientifically proven but we can observe the effects quite clearly, without ever being a 100 procent certain. I try to keep things that help me and eliminate things that don't. Spirituality helps me, even though I will never be able to prove the existence of something larger than us to the people around me and maybe it's just my Ni trying to synthesize everything into one concept 🤭 Have a great day!
@dennislam31115 күн бұрын
Im an intj, but i can act like an infj in pursiut to be a better person. Do not let four letters define who you are. Use the letters to manage how you interact with the world.🎉
@rstevewarmorycom6 күн бұрын
You're an agnostic atheist!!
@rstevewarmorycom6 күн бұрын
No god needed! I'm a physicist, and electronic and computer engineer, and an Evolutionary geneticist! The universe runs by itself and doesn't NEED guidance. All biological complexity arises from totally random mutation and natural selection! by circumstance, massive death of the unfit leaving only the successful traits in the gene pool! I became an Atheist at age 10, and I'm now 74. Religion is one big argument from ignorance/incredulity fallacy! The cure for depression is to fuck all your friends in your tribe and live with and count on them!! Most need for church is desperate loneliness and horniness!!
@solutions4tenants1416 күн бұрын
Clay, keep it going… I am an INFJ-A 62 yo woman who totally gets what you are laying out. I enjoy your thoughts out loud. Thanks !
@ForeverCurious76 күн бұрын
Wow! Thanku. You nailed it!!!!!
@nickoru17 күн бұрын
INFJs are energy vampires
@SpecialEdDHD7 күн бұрын
The Church of Satan is not the Christian Church. The real Christian Church is in you and me. Its the people. And if you don't believe in God then you haven't dealt with Demonic Spirits or seen Miracles because if you did you would know the world is in a Spiritual war. For many are called, but few are chosen.
@israelmasson40837 күн бұрын
Love the video , well explain <3
@Fred_Free7 күн бұрын
I had many very close female friends in my younger years. Friendship with women doesn’t contain any competition, which is usually the case between men (usually unspoken competition, but it’s there). Friendships with women usually end when the woman meets a partner, especially after the age of 30. There can also arise attraction from one side in the friendship with women, which makes it difficult. In my case, the women wanted a romantic relationship with me.
@Fred_Free7 күн бұрын
This "honesty" thing is interesting. What exactly is "honesty"? I believe; "honesty" is a reflection of someone's personality, not to be confused with "the truth". A kind person who is "honest" makes kind judgments. A mean person who is "honest" makes mean judgments. One might ask, for whom is "honesty" necessary or even significant... 😎
@CelesteandMayMay7 күн бұрын
Amazing video and information. Thank you 🙏🏻
@JonasAnandaKristiansson7 күн бұрын
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO relatable!! <3
@JohanLundgrens9 күн бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing. 👍
@bobgarbett32299 күн бұрын
I just discovered your KZread channel! Thank you! (I’m INFP)I could say so much about my own experience of leaving faith and much of it you have already articulated. I’m 70 and my own roots go way back into my childhood raised in a Pentecostal tradition. Let me summarise all of this in the briefest manner possible by saying that when I first discovered Richard Rohr ( I was given a copy of his book ‘Everything Belongs’) it was the beginning of the end it was in fact a book I’d been looking for most of my life.
@kenith2879 күн бұрын
Women are funny. My girlfriend has many guy friends. My friends told me thats a red flag but i trust my gf! I recently quit a job where my colleage, whos a girl, wanted to stay in touch , so we exchanged numbers, and we text each other from time to time. She and i went out for coffee and my gf suddenly started acting funny and to make a long story short, i dont talk to this colleague anymore😂. U see, its OK for her to have guy friends and they hang out , but when the shoes on the other foot, wow. Did she change her tune. She told me , she doesnt want to talk to her guy friends anymore😂. I told her its ok! That she can ! I trust her!. But now???? She GETS IT! 😂 Suddenly, she tells me , i am more important to her than any of her guy friends! But honestly, i told her i trust her! And she can still keep her guy friends! But seeing me having female friends changed all that. She does though, have a jealous bone in her body. But its nice! It feels good
@vaguseremit65299 күн бұрын
I don't like to judge people, but I wonder if I'm the only one who has experienced this. This girl from the short videos gives me a vibe of estj. Not in terms of information, she really refers to intj, but more about how she acts, intonation, tone
@CourTooKnee9 күн бұрын
Yeahhhh , we are very intense to ppl receiving that energy or observing it. We also can mask and mimic other personality types too.
@mrga6609 күн бұрын
That woman was looking into your soul, my soul, everyone's soul 😊
@znation149110 күн бұрын
Loved this video Clay and I watched your video on you deconstructing your faith. I am somewhat in the same process. Coming from the Adventist faith. There is one question I had while watching though. You said, paraphrasing here, why doesn’t God provide an undeniable/unexplainable form of proof like your Everest example. This may be a stupid question but I’ve decided to ask anyway. Couldn’t the idea of life on earth and consciousness itself be this proof? This might still be the Protestant in me but I just can’t help but shake the feeling that the world and life is just way too complex and intricate to simply just have happened by chance though I’m not completely opposed to that idea. To me, at least right now. There is at least some creator. I am doing further research on whether that creator is the God of Christianity. Sorry for the wall of text.
@kamirose781610 күн бұрын
You are amazing! Everything you said I completely resonate with. It was exact same process in my life. Thank you for putting out this content.
@CourTooKnee11 күн бұрын
All it takes is one little break in concentration and *snaps the finger*.... Yeahhh... IOTYYANMIAA! But playing like so is the next best thing, ain't it?
@CourTooKnee11 күн бұрын
Andddd, micromanaging
@madz756711 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, Clay! Not sure if you're familiar, but this whole discussion is pretty much the Tower card in the Tarot. A structure that lent you a sense of security and stability is coming down, but it may have been built on faulty foundations. It is destabilizing, but may ultimately lead to greater freedom and realization. The next card is the Star, a card of hope, peace, freedom, and nourishing the new soil.
@gotmullets11 күн бұрын
This is me in many many ways.😅❤ It's hard for me..having a wife and kids and responsibilities around the house and a full-time job.. I don't get much time alone to recharge.. and I am continuously helping and counseling everyone around me.. I also keep an extremely small friend group.. many people don't seem to understand that.. or my need or desire to be left in peace.. also.. no one around me thinks like I do.. I have been told by others I am very logical and or analytical.. I Also love philosophy. But lately I have found that I have been feeling burnt out.. I feel it's potentially because I have not been allowed to "recharge".. I used to use hiking and camping as a way to escape and find peace..
@estherarmah483212 күн бұрын
U seem like a very outgoing infj❤
@DavidS-gx1ok12 күн бұрын
How does new ideas and adhd lay into this? What is differentiate infj with adhd And infp with adhd!
@IndianJalpariHere12 күн бұрын
I wish I had u as my elder brother so we could talk for hours and never feel misunderstood. ❤ Thank u for sharing these. I am an INFJ, and I feel every word.
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You don't believe right now? It's OK. God is not flustered. This is what you do.... Say to God... the Most High: God Most High.... I don't think that I believe in You, because I don't think that You exist... But if You do and if You love me, then please show Yourself. Please speak to me and show me your essence..... - Do this out loud.... in sincerity (some people like to talk to God like He is a poodle they are trying to get to jump through a hoop at a circus.... Don't do that.. attitude is so important).
me and my bpd wife married young and i failed her didnt know emotional intimacy was big part of relationships. probably the sole reason we broke down and now im learning to be a better communicator
optimism bias???
Yeah, I guess I have been a "pretend" Christian long enough. I don't go to service often and my prayer life ain't shit. I shout profanities on the street because of traffic, I eat like a pig, and I don't support the faith community. I have never gone on missions and I suspect I never will. I do not partake in communion, and when I turned in last night, all I could "pray" was "Fuck god." The very idea of saying, "I love Christ" causes me shame.
Thanks for sharing! Helps me overcome the ongoing trauma imposed by all religious people around me online and in real life besides the other blind brainwashed people who kill themselves with modern "food", chemicals, perfumes, cosmetics, "medicine" and dentistry besides electromagnetic radiation and air and water pollution and hence our food as well is full of all that poison and lacking nutritional. I trust Nature and good human beings and I try to be authentic and share what I know to heal people naturally. Be well, everyone!
i would not believe in something i know is false even though i would be happier.actually i wouldn,t be happier. because believing the lie is the path to destruction.
i know i was there. nihilism. the enemy of meaning.
you are right you can,t trust personal expierence as much as PEOPLE want it to be. there is only one way for you to know YHWH and that is actually to see YHWH in person.......face to face.
the reason why i believe YHWH/yeshuah haMashiach, is because i didn,t choose him. he choose me. not of my own. no. of him, thats all. what i do know is that even allthough we all had similair spiritual expierences they are not all EXACTLY the same and do not come all from the same god. so how do i know from what god it is and what the cause of that expierence is?. well when it is aligned to YHWH nature. and also i don,t use drugs that trigers those experiences. and yes. they are actually wired into our brains. YHWH did not create us without mind comunications.
The worst are prosperity gospel Christians. "Oh, he's poor, he must not have enough faith...he deserves what he got." Jesus was poor--so I guess he deserves what he got, too.
well the reason why christians are often so nasty is often because they have a persecution complex. and that persecution complex has gone terrifiyngly to far into there psychi.
the universe just seems far too complex to have come about naturally. therefore god created it. that is indeed very much an appeal to ignorance fallacy. especially when you start to ak these people, but did god not create the natural too?.
to be honost i don,t think that it is a lack of evidence problem. you see.......you need to go to the core of believe, and that is the never ending debth or rather said road of discovery of God. and.......the fact that you often end up in those endless cycles are often the result of lack of knoledge, because most people don,t read the bible enough.
some people indeed start posting bible verses. if you don,t know the point of that. than go figure it out. and who says they are countering your arguments? what type of verses do they post? i am honestly interested.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 KJV Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 1 Timothy 4:1 KJV Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Sitting in an Airstream ?
I know Christianity is a false religion and it doesn’t make any sense but guys being Atheists is more worse 😢. You have to believe in God❤ try studying other religions
Everything it is about perspective, personal story and willingness to belive or not in this or that. Regards.
As always.. Clay I enjoy the mind exercise of another INFJ. My solitary life suits me, yet causes others to question my choices. My commitment. Isolation. I allow so few Into my peace. Our culture is so narcissistic. Been there. No thanks.
your entire life is one gargantuan question mark. YHWH has learnd me that when that is, he is there. because he is still pulling you. which means he is not really the one who needs explanation.
That's why I prefer direct experience without intrepretion and see life as it is. All of believe are just stories made up in our mind distractions from reality. Im wondering if you still argue with believers?
I wish i could give a hundred likes to this work instead of just one. Great job!
Thank you for making this video. I think you already know what faith actually is. It's like mbti to me. It's not scientifically proven but we can observe the effects quite clearly, without ever being a 100 procent certain. I try to keep things that help me and eliminate things that don't. Spirituality helps me, even though I will never be able to prove the existence of something larger than us to the people around me and maybe it's just my Ni trying to synthesize everything into one concept 🤭 Have a great day!
Im an intj, but i can act like an infj in pursiut to be a better person. Do not let four letters define who you are. Use the letters to manage how you interact with the world.🎉
You're an agnostic atheist!!
No god needed! I'm a physicist, and electronic and computer engineer, and an Evolutionary geneticist! The universe runs by itself and doesn't NEED guidance. All biological complexity arises from totally random mutation and natural selection! by circumstance, massive death of the unfit leaving only the successful traits in the gene pool! I became an Atheist at age 10, and I'm now 74. Religion is one big argument from ignorance/incredulity fallacy! The cure for depression is to fuck all your friends in your tribe and live with and count on them!! Most need for church is desperate loneliness and horniness!!
Clay, keep it going… I am an INFJ-A 62 yo woman who totally gets what you are laying out. I enjoy your thoughts out loud. Thanks !
Wow! Thanku. You nailed it!!!!!
INFJs are energy vampires
The Church of Satan is not the Christian Church. The real Christian Church is in you and me. Its the people. And if you don't believe in God then you haven't dealt with Demonic Spirits or seen Miracles because if you did you would know the world is in a Spiritual war. For many are called, but few are chosen.
Love the video , well explain <3
I had many very close female friends in my younger years. Friendship with women doesn’t contain any competition, which is usually the case between men (usually unspoken competition, but it’s there). Friendships with women usually end when the woman meets a partner, especially after the age of 30. There can also arise attraction from one side in the friendship with women, which makes it difficult. In my case, the women wanted a romantic relationship with me.
This "honesty" thing is interesting. What exactly is "honesty"? I believe; "honesty" is a reflection of someone's personality, not to be confused with "the truth". A kind person who is "honest" makes kind judgments. A mean person who is "honest" makes mean judgments. One might ask, for whom is "honesty" necessary or even significant... 😎
Amazing video and information. Thank you 🙏🏻
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO relatable!! <3
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing. 👍
I just discovered your KZread channel! Thank you! (I’m INFP)I could say so much about my own experience of leaving faith and much of it you have already articulated. I’m 70 and my own roots go way back into my childhood raised in a Pentecostal tradition. Let me summarise all of this in the briefest manner possible by saying that when I first discovered Richard Rohr ( I was given a copy of his book ‘Everything Belongs’) it was the beginning of the end it was in fact a book I’d been looking for most of my life.
Women are funny. My girlfriend has many guy friends. My friends told me thats a red flag but i trust my gf! I recently quit a job where my colleage, whos a girl, wanted to stay in touch , so we exchanged numbers, and we text each other from time to time. She and i went out for coffee and my gf suddenly started acting funny and to make a long story short, i dont talk to this colleague anymore😂. U see, its OK for her to have guy friends and they hang out , but when the shoes on the other foot, wow. Did she change her tune. She told me , she doesnt want to talk to her guy friends anymore😂. I told her its ok! That she can ! I trust her!. But now???? She GETS IT! 😂 Suddenly, she tells me , i am more important to her than any of her guy friends! But honestly, i told her i trust her! And she can still keep her guy friends! But seeing me having female friends changed all that. She does though, have a jealous bone in her body. But its nice! It feels good
I don't like to judge people, but I wonder if I'm the only one who has experienced this. This girl from the short videos gives me a vibe of estj. Not in terms of information, she really refers to intj, but more about how she acts, intonation, tone
Yeahhhh , we are very intense to ppl receiving that energy or observing it. We also can mask and mimic other personality types too.
That woman was looking into your soul, my soul, everyone's soul 😊
Loved this video Clay and I watched your video on you deconstructing your faith. I am somewhat in the same process. Coming from the Adventist faith. There is one question I had while watching though. You said, paraphrasing here, why doesn’t God provide an undeniable/unexplainable form of proof like your Everest example. This may be a stupid question but I’ve decided to ask anyway. Couldn’t the idea of life on earth and consciousness itself be this proof? This might still be the Protestant in me but I just can’t help but shake the feeling that the world and life is just way too complex and intricate to simply just have happened by chance though I’m not completely opposed to that idea. To me, at least right now. There is at least some creator. I am doing further research on whether that creator is the God of Christianity. Sorry for the wall of text.
You are amazing! Everything you said I completely resonate with. It was exact same process in my life. Thank you for putting out this content.
All it takes is one little break in concentration and *snaps the finger*.... Yeahhh... IOTYYANMIAA! But playing like so is the next best thing, ain't it?
Andddd, micromanaging
Thank you for this, Clay! Not sure if you're familiar, but this whole discussion is pretty much the Tower card in the Tarot. A structure that lent you a sense of security and stability is coming down, but it may have been built on faulty foundations. It is destabilizing, but may ultimately lead to greater freedom and realization. The next card is the Star, a card of hope, peace, freedom, and nourishing the new soil.
This is me in many many ways.😅❤ It's hard for me..having a wife and kids and responsibilities around the house and a full-time job.. I don't get much time alone to recharge.. and I am continuously helping and counseling everyone around me.. I also keep an extremely small friend group.. many people don't seem to understand that.. or my need or desire to be left in peace.. also.. no one around me thinks like I do.. I have been told by others I am very logical and or analytical.. I Also love philosophy. But lately I have found that I have been feeling burnt out.. I feel it's potentially because I have not been allowed to "recharge".. I used to use hiking and camping as a way to escape and find peace..
U seem like a very outgoing infj❤
How does new ideas and adhd lay into this? What is differentiate infj with adhd And infp with adhd!
I wish I had u as my elder brother so we could talk for hours and never feel misunderstood. ❤ Thank u for sharing these. I am an INFJ, and I feel every word.