Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no. 6 and Chopin op. 53 probably have more famous octave passages than Liszt's B minor Sonata
@taegukcha23 сағат бұрын
pc 1 gets me everytime.. including that very 3rd mvt moment.
@jerryli9002Күн бұрын
no op 117 no 1 is criminal 😢
@Pamela-dv7gbКүн бұрын
Hi could you pls explain me what is the numbers in the description ? I tough it was the henle difficulty rating but it isn’t because all of these piece are level 9 on the henle système
@bruhmoment-pn2tzКүн бұрын
wait where did you get the hischhorn recording.
@bruhmoment-pn2tzКүн бұрын
bro chose the sped up menhuin recording
@KingstonCzajkowskiКүн бұрын
25-11 is objectively not even close to being the hardest Chopin etudes. All of the passagework is single rotation and there are only a few really tricky moments in the whole thing. 10-2, 25-6, and even 10-4 are much harder.
@KingstonCzajkowskiКүн бұрын
Unpianistic? Scriabin was one of the most pianistic composers there is. His music feels great to play and he really understood how to write for the instrument. I would rank him with Chopin, Liszt, and Rachmaninoff as the composers who had the best conceptions of piano technique in relation to composition.
@user-fi4yd2kf6gКүн бұрын
I like your Liszt of hard pieces!
@claudiac.32422 күн бұрын
Well done!!!
@claudiac.32422 күн бұрын
Amazing!
@penpow2 күн бұрын
At least to me, Brahms was one of, if not "the" greatest melody writer. His usage of hemiola in almost *every* piece he writes (shifting between 3/4 and 6/8) is one of the many reasons as to why his melodies seem so memorable and song-like.
@beamishapple50072 күн бұрын
I think you forgot Schubert's 'Erlkonig'
@MR_ICE_GUY3 күн бұрын
Ledger lines are spawn of hell
@samaritan293 күн бұрын
how would you compare this, in depth and profundity to the chopin cello sonata?
@Colin_McHugh3 күн бұрын
50:59 This regard is just wonderful. It is a fun time to listen to and is very enjoyable to play, though it is a struggle.
@user-tq9hh8vi6f3 күн бұрын
59:17 is just a toddler slamming on the piano
@duartevader27093 күн бұрын
As a portuguese, makes me happy seing Pires here, happy you enjoyed her recording :)
@winsomelau61884 күн бұрын
Op118 no5 also my favourites
@ilovebrownies9644 күн бұрын
When will the works by composer website be updated?
@user-xh7xw5xr2k4 күн бұрын
Op. 119 no 2 is just wow
@user-xh7xw5xr2k3 күн бұрын
It also kind of sounds like happy birthday
@shmarbs.9094 күн бұрын
Still a lot missing! One can simply never get enough of Brahms once you're entrenched by his music. It's nice to know that there are people like you who admires his music and make it so that you show to others his brilliance. Great video!
@chwu04-ne2df4 күн бұрын
I would personally nerf both feux follets and don juan to 8+ and put S.140/6 and huguenots above those 2 respectively. Actually, feux follets is at most a low 8+ or even a high 8; it’s certainly not an 8++ because it’s only about as hard as chopin 10/2 25/6 and 25/8 combined. At the very least I would say the prokofiev 8th sonata, taken as a whole, is harder than feux follets. Even the B minor sonata, which is really not very technically difficult, is arguably harder due to the length and interpretive difficulties.
@afifi214 күн бұрын
The melody in B section of the 3rd mvt. of the Op. 8 trio is also one of his magnificent melodies, among countless others. You did a great job compiling these wonderful melodies. If there's a Part 2, I'll definitely love to watch it!
@DavidSmith-kc4hz4 күн бұрын
Yes I am well aware of that but did not notice that he had included the clarinet version until I went through listening to them all when I was reminded of this fact. The only melody I did not know what is one of the klaviastukes, otherwise they are all very familiar to me since childhood, 80 years ago.
@JayJay-TheFlash4 күн бұрын
Difficult 1 is my level 😂
@DanielKRui4 күн бұрын
The 2nd clarinet sonata 1st movement end has an E major passage (followed by some slow staccato arpeggios that are somehow just so beautiful) that I personally consider one of the most sublime moments in all of music.
@dragondaemonis38014 күн бұрын
I have always wondered why people cite the first theme of Brahms' fourth as an example of "good melody". I beg to differ: it is a sequence of fragmented leaps that I find difficult to define a good melody. Soon after there is that second theme in b minor stated by the cellos that is much more delicious, which I personally consider one of Brahms' finest melodies. My point is the following: I don't think Brahms couldn't write good melodies. Rather, he wasn't always interested in writing "good" melodies. Good melodies, namely long and lyrical themes with a direction conveying emotions, are not very good to make counterpoint on, they can be scarcely manipulated. It is no surprise that the beautiful second theme is never used in the development section, while most efforts are used to elaborate the first theme, which is much easier to deal with. Brahms was so committed to architectural complexity that he often had little use for "good melodies". But this does not hold just for Brahms, of course: take the beautiful development section of Mozart's Prague. He never employs the lyrical second theme and just restricts himself to fragments of the first theme, which is not as melodic. Please, consider that we may have different opinions on what a "good melody" is, these are subjective matters. Thanks for your attention :)
@calebhu63834 күн бұрын
"I have always wondered why people cite the first theme of Brahms' fourth as an example of 'good melody.'" Because they like the way it sounds, simple as that. Doesn't matter if it doesn't fit the traditional definition of a good melody.
@dragondaemonis38014 күн бұрын
@@calebhu6383 There is no definition of what a "good melody" is, so your point is perfectly legitimate. For my personal taste it is not as good as the second theme, but of course it is my opinion!
@meowmeowcat60132 күн бұрын
well said. As someone who main Brahms for musicology studies I totally agree with you. The topic of melodic creation is quite contentious when it comes to Brahms. Usually a "good melody" is something that a human can sing, but that's kind of a narrow definition. Brahms def had a lot of "melodic fragments" for development like you said, and many of his most beautiful sections of music are too complex to be simply labeled as "melodies", or simply developed beyond melody without a "closure of the melody" ala Mozart or Chopin style.
@dragondaemonis38012 күн бұрын
@@meowmeowcat6013 I agree! And that's what makes Brahms somewhat harder to appreciate at first listen. His music is often so elaborated and complex that you need to fully analyze the score to get all the subtleties. I find it hard to just think "I'll listen to some Brahms to relax"; it's a kind of music I have to sit down and study to get something from it.
@meowmeowcat6013Күн бұрын
@@dragondaemonis3801 haha some of Brahms's works are easier to enjoy and relax to than the others, often depending on the purpose of the work (like some of his Lieder). Some others would be less difficult for the experienced listener. But yeah I certainly can't relax when op.34 (piano quintet) is playing, that one just demands full attention and I basically "live" in it whenever it plays... yet I would also say the first movement has really beautiful "melodies."
@witsukyai16855 күн бұрын
What a good taste when it comes to the artists, hats off to you!
@robb65605 күн бұрын
The melody of Klavierstucke op.76 n.2 is not one of his best... Is not good as the others so i would not put it in his best melodies. You didn't include a touching moment from Op.40 third movement and you didn't show horn melody. You didn't freaking include the principal Cello melody of Cello Sonata n.1!!!
@maxjohn60125 күн бұрын
Bloody hell that was mind-blowing!
@aytahnbenavi5 күн бұрын
When I saw this video title the 3rd movement from Symphony 3 started playing in my head... and of course you put it first lol. I'm not very well listened of Brahms but of the ones I know that one has to take the cake. Unreal beauty.
@FrancoisCouperin-s9m5 күн бұрын
Certainly you must also listen to the Op.8 excerpts starting at 12:05.
@hoomaanghanavati62075 күн бұрын
Do more of these videos, next video best melodies of Schubert💥
@azaroma5 күн бұрын
That fleeting moment in Op. 118 No. 3 is heartstopping.
@daveo24315 күн бұрын
It's like a reminiscence of one's past lifetime. One of the best melodies for piano, in my opinion, and definitely one of the best in the op. 118 Intermezzi.
@maandahhan49005 күн бұрын
Quality content man, keep it up
@chwu04-ne2df6 күн бұрын
Liszt reminiscences de norma and robert le diable and beethoven op. 101 and 111 are far more difficult for me than la campanella, which I find easier than the hardest chopin etudes played at the original tempo markings.
@andrewashdown35416 күн бұрын
Is Beach a 'major composer'?
@boiklassikal86426 күн бұрын
The 1st and 2nd movements of his Clarinet Quintet should've been in this list. The opening of both movements are so autumnal as @nandovancreij has said. Just pure magic.
@aderbalsoares19886 күн бұрын
Difficult doesn't necessarily mean sounding good.
@christopherpickles75416 күн бұрын
Congratulations on this upload Caleb. 50 minutes of pure beauty.
@FrancoisCouperin-s9m6 күн бұрын
27:08 unbelievable harmonies in this excerpt
@daveo24315 күн бұрын
and unusual fingerings for this piece, too, right? But indeed, it reflects the harmonies and scale of the keyboard.
@DanKingold6 күн бұрын
14:55 This may be the prettiest thing Brahms ever wrote, it's so pure
@firzaakbarpanjaitan6 күн бұрын
May I humbly request a video on ol' Anton Bruckner next? This year is his 200th birth anniversary...
@meowmeowcat60132 күн бұрын
How dare you request Bruckner related stuff in a Brahms video... lol sorry just joking. 200th, that's amazing.
@trstquint71146 күн бұрын
2:15 Bach Goldberg is WAY too fast. Absurd.
@BeMusical.6 күн бұрын
Goat video. I will never get bored of Brahms
@_rstcm6 күн бұрын
Somebody loves Brahms!
@thekenanski87896 күн бұрын
The transition at 42:41 is perfect, lol
@calebhu63836 күн бұрын
I'm glad you noticed. Also check out the transition between Cello Sonata No.1 and the Violin Concerto
@sean-kb4wr6 күн бұрын
Do the exact same with Rachmaninoff
@SpaghettiToaster5 күн бұрын
That video would be way too long.
@lorenzogiammarini36376 күн бұрын
Funny thing is that Brahms loathed himself for not being a great melodist. In fact he was, although in a distinctive manner: they are not catchy in a mozartesque sense, but they don't need it: they still convey a great amount of emotion (yes, autumnal is a good tag) despite being sometimes wry and more often inusually long - this is a distinctive way of Brahms phrasing, and it is deeply intertwined with his innovative use of classical harmony)
@calebhu63836 күн бұрын
Correct. He once signed an autograph with the first bars of the Blue Danube, with the wry inscription "Unfortunately not by Johannes Brahms."
@DanielKRui6 күн бұрын
@37:22 the bass sounds almost like pizzicato. That excerpt, in my opinion, may be the most sublime of the entire compilation. Just perfection in melody, harmony, texture. Subtle, restrained, tragic. Stately.
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Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no. 6 and Chopin op. 53 probably have more famous octave passages than Liszt's B minor Sonata
pc 1 gets me everytime.. including that very 3rd mvt moment.
no op 117 no 1 is criminal 😢
Hi could you pls explain me what is the numbers in the description ? I tough it was the henle difficulty rating but it isn’t because all of these piece are level 9 on the henle système
wait where did you get the hischhorn recording.
bro chose the sped up menhuin recording
25-11 is objectively not even close to being the hardest Chopin etudes. All of the passagework is single rotation and there are only a few really tricky moments in the whole thing. 10-2, 25-6, and even 10-4 are much harder.
Unpianistic? Scriabin was one of the most pianistic composers there is. His music feels great to play and he really understood how to write for the instrument. I would rank him with Chopin, Liszt, and Rachmaninoff as the composers who had the best conceptions of piano technique in relation to composition.
I like your Liszt of hard pieces!
Well done!!!
Amazing!
At least to me, Brahms was one of, if not "the" greatest melody writer. His usage of hemiola in almost *every* piece he writes (shifting between 3/4 and 6/8) is one of the many reasons as to why his melodies seem so memorable and song-like.
I think you forgot Schubert's 'Erlkonig'
Ledger lines are spawn of hell
how would you compare this, in depth and profundity to the chopin cello sonata?
50:59 This regard is just wonderful. It is a fun time to listen to and is very enjoyable to play, though it is a struggle.
59:17 is just a toddler slamming on the piano
As a portuguese, makes me happy seing Pires here, happy you enjoyed her recording :)
Op118 no5 also my favourites
When will the works by composer website be updated?
Op. 119 no 2 is just wow
It also kind of sounds like happy birthday
Still a lot missing! One can simply never get enough of Brahms once you're entrenched by his music. It's nice to know that there are people like you who admires his music and make it so that you show to others his brilliance. Great video!
I would personally nerf both feux follets and don juan to 8+ and put S.140/6 and huguenots above those 2 respectively. Actually, feux follets is at most a low 8+ or even a high 8; it’s certainly not an 8++ because it’s only about as hard as chopin 10/2 25/6 and 25/8 combined. At the very least I would say the prokofiev 8th sonata, taken as a whole, is harder than feux follets. Even the B minor sonata, which is really not very technically difficult, is arguably harder due to the length and interpretive difficulties.
The melody in B section of the 3rd mvt. of the Op. 8 trio is also one of his magnificent melodies, among countless others. You did a great job compiling these wonderful melodies. If there's a Part 2, I'll definitely love to watch it!
Yes I am well aware of that but did not notice that he had included the clarinet version until I went through listening to them all when I was reminded of this fact. The only melody I did not know what is one of the klaviastukes, otherwise they are all very familiar to me since childhood, 80 years ago.
Difficult 1 is my level 😂
The 2nd clarinet sonata 1st movement end has an E major passage (followed by some slow staccato arpeggios that are somehow just so beautiful) that I personally consider one of the most sublime moments in all of music.
I have always wondered why people cite the first theme of Brahms' fourth as an example of "good melody". I beg to differ: it is a sequence of fragmented leaps that I find difficult to define a good melody. Soon after there is that second theme in b minor stated by the cellos that is much more delicious, which I personally consider one of Brahms' finest melodies. My point is the following: I don't think Brahms couldn't write good melodies. Rather, he wasn't always interested in writing "good" melodies. Good melodies, namely long and lyrical themes with a direction conveying emotions, are not very good to make counterpoint on, they can be scarcely manipulated. It is no surprise that the beautiful second theme is never used in the development section, while most efforts are used to elaborate the first theme, which is much easier to deal with. Brahms was so committed to architectural complexity that he often had little use for "good melodies". But this does not hold just for Brahms, of course: take the beautiful development section of Mozart's Prague. He never employs the lyrical second theme and just restricts himself to fragments of the first theme, which is not as melodic. Please, consider that we may have different opinions on what a "good melody" is, these are subjective matters. Thanks for your attention :)
"I have always wondered why people cite the first theme of Brahms' fourth as an example of 'good melody.'" Because they like the way it sounds, simple as that. Doesn't matter if it doesn't fit the traditional definition of a good melody.
@@calebhu6383 There is no definition of what a "good melody" is, so your point is perfectly legitimate. For my personal taste it is not as good as the second theme, but of course it is my opinion!
well said. As someone who main Brahms for musicology studies I totally agree with you. The topic of melodic creation is quite contentious when it comes to Brahms. Usually a "good melody" is something that a human can sing, but that's kind of a narrow definition. Brahms def had a lot of "melodic fragments" for development like you said, and many of his most beautiful sections of music are too complex to be simply labeled as "melodies", or simply developed beyond melody without a "closure of the melody" ala Mozart or Chopin style.
@@meowmeowcat6013 I agree! And that's what makes Brahms somewhat harder to appreciate at first listen. His music is often so elaborated and complex that you need to fully analyze the score to get all the subtleties. I find it hard to just think "I'll listen to some Brahms to relax"; it's a kind of music I have to sit down and study to get something from it.
@@dragondaemonis3801 haha some of Brahms's works are easier to enjoy and relax to than the others, often depending on the purpose of the work (like some of his Lieder). Some others would be less difficult for the experienced listener. But yeah I certainly can't relax when op.34 (piano quintet) is playing, that one just demands full attention and I basically "live" in it whenever it plays... yet I would also say the first movement has really beautiful "melodies."
What a good taste when it comes to the artists, hats off to you!
The melody of Klavierstucke op.76 n.2 is not one of his best... Is not good as the others so i would not put it in his best melodies. You didn't include a touching moment from Op.40 third movement and you didn't show horn melody. You didn't freaking include the principal Cello melody of Cello Sonata n.1!!!
Bloody hell that was mind-blowing!
When I saw this video title the 3rd movement from Symphony 3 started playing in my head... and of course you put it first lol. I'm not very well listened of Brahms but of the ones I know that one has to take the cake. Unreal beauty.
Certainly you must also listen to the Op.8 excerpts starting at 12:05.
Do more of these videos, next video best melodies of Schubert💥
That fleeting moment in Op. 118 No. 3 is heartstopping.
It's like a reminiscence of one's past lifetime. One of the best melodies for piano, in my opinion, and definitely one of the best in the op. 118 Intermezzi.
Quality content man, keep it up
Liszt reminiscences de norma and robert le diable and beethoven op. 101 and 111 are far more difficult for me than la campanella, which I find easier than the hardest chopin etudes played at the original tempo markings.
Is Beach a 'major composer'?
The 1st and 2nd movements of his Clarinet Quintet should've been in this list. The opening of both movements are so autumnal as @nandovancreij has said. Just pure magic.
Difficult doesn't necessarily mean sounding good.
Congratulations on this upload Caleb. 50 minutes of pure beauty.
27:08 unbelievable harmonies in this excerpt
and unusual fingerings for this piece, too, right? But indeed, it reflects the harmonies and scale of the keyboard.
14:55 This may be the prettiest thing Brahms ever wrote, it's so pure
May I humbly request a video on ol' Anton Bruckner next? This year is his 200th birth anniversary...
How dare you request Bruckner related stuff in a Brahms video... lol sorry just joking. 200th, that's amazing.
2:15 Bach Goldberg is WAY too fast. Absurd.
Goat video. I will never get bored of Brahms
Somebody loves Brahms!
The transition at 42:41 is perfect, lol
I'm glad you noticed. Also check out the transition between Cello Sonata No.1 and the Violin Concerto
Do the exact same with Rachmaninoff
That video would be way too long.
Funny thing is that Brahms loathed himself for not being a great melodist. In fact he was, although in a distinctive manner: they are not catchy in a mozartesque sense, but they don't need it: they still convey a great amount of emotion (yes, autumnal is a good tag) despite being sometimes wry and more often inusually long - this is a distinctive way of Brahms phrasing, and it is deeply intertwined with his innovative use of classical harmony)
Correct. He once signed an autograph with the first bars of the Blue Danube, with the wry inscription "Unfortunately not by Johannes Brahms."
@37:22 the bass sounds almost like pizzicato. That excerpt, in my opinion, may be the most sublime of the entire compilation. Just perfection in melody, harmony, texture. Subtle, restrained, tragic. Stately.