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I find her cool as well! I am new to FAB and too late to enjoy her in CC. Fortunately, my local LGS is hosting armories in the LL format and I am thinking of building her, using this guide as the starting point. Any swap suggestions for the LL format? Thanks!
@kalebrownie77357 күн бұрын
Complete tcg newby here, can every set play with everyset? Or what? I wanna buy some booster boxes but i wanna make sure i can actually use them against ppl lol
@bryannothem15055 күн бұрын
Yes, for the most part. Sometimes combos are found over the years and that causes certain cards and heroes to not be used in the competitive circuit, but for blitz and LL games, every card can be played
@JohnSmith-ul2ceАй бұрын
This looks involved enough to be fun, but repeatable enough to not be too hard to play. Also fits the flavor
@TheSingsingjaiАй бұрын
whats the use of rampart of the rams head? tks
@BagelTCGАй бұрын
Just for the dash MU :)
@jordanlegoАй бұрын
Zens hero ability is so much better than nuu or enigma. It’s kind of wild how much power creep to ninja he brought. Not a fan of this at all.
@BigBootyJudy40ozBounceАй бұрын
Talked to Brodie S at Nats and the BH in Seattle/Tacoma and he said the current meta is just who can win by turn 3... Good job LSS 💩🤡
@jawsomejasper8353Ай бұрын
I think kano is viable to play into big events depending on local meta. I also think zen is favoured for kano if zen is on spellvoid/ab adding up to 3, but above that or with oasis kano is unfavoured.
@Karkman87Ай бұрын
Interesting list. Had my Nationals the past weekend and took Victor into it. Havent played a single Zen and made Top 8. Went 2:1 in Swiss and then 2:1 in Draft before getting to Top 8 (32 player Nationals) In the end I lost against a Kayo by having awful first hands and him doing Cast Bones into Bloodrush into Cast Bones into Bloodrush
@BagelTCGАй бұрын
Yeah I think 3 rounds is unfortunately not enough to gauge the power of a hero, but he can be a decent counter to some things
@XctuggАй бұрын
I see btcg, I like share and subscribe.
@BagelTCGАй бұрын
This guy gets it
@WelankАй бұрын
My decks (Vynnset and Olympia) aren't F tier 🎉
@BagelTCGАй бұрын
This is so big for us
@about99ninjas56Ай бұрын
Well vynnset isn't.....
@cloudgable8275Ай бұрын
G-Tier? ❤
@roguenoob2 ай бұрын
"everytime I put Kano in B tier he wins an event" well, if you put Kano in B tier when he can present a 40+ damage turn on turn 2, consistently without using equipment, that's not the deck's fault. Kano is a the best he's ever been and Enigma is a lot easier to deal with than Dromai was.
@SuppperWormy2 ай бұрын
i struggle into enigma with this :c
@Library4Lich2 ай бұрын
BAGEL TCG <3
@stigmurder992 ай бұрын
I really like MST but man no regular ninja support was disappointing, I kept expecting to see something new for Katsu and Fai but nope. Anyways, nice video, thanks Bagel.
@BagelTCG2 ай бұрын
Yeah sorry to hear about the lack of ninja support, I was hoping Fai would get some at least. Thanks for the support!
@johnjohn-up2pu2 ай бұрын
actually they got nerfed with the new gloves
@SamTulloch2 ай бұрын
Prismatic leyline is pretty dope in Katsu
@stigmurder992 ай бұрын
@johnjohn-up2pu damn I didn't think about it like that lol
@stigmurder992 ай бұрын
@SamTulloch makes sense, I need to try that
@GeneralSchwartz2 ай бұрын
Really enjoying Zen, haven't quite figured out which of his cards are actually good
@BootiSwet2 ай бұрын
I'm here to demand a bad illusionist. For far too long they've all been good, and it ends now.
@Orion1261262 ай бұрын
They can’t afford to. They pump all the money cards into that class.
@SuperSaiyanKrillin2 ай бұрын
Yep, Prism wasn't even allowed to be bad for two sets until they decided to directly power creep her weapon
@HeavensMandate80402 ай бұрын
If Kayo attained his LL points with the current rules in place, he'd actually be much further along. Most of his points came from RTN and PQs (I dont think he has won anything above a BH yet)
@chubberdunkus61532 ай бұрын
Vynnset in B for ballin 🏀
@pippumax70852 ай бұрын
I think the oylpmia spec is basically unplayable :(
@BagelTCG2 ай бұрын
??? That card lets you re-equip 8 armor health for 0 resources!
@kuroo202 ай бұрын
@@BagelTCG You have to pay gold and use AP still and it restricts your SB
@RandomParty12 ай бұрын
@@BagelTCG It's genuinely horrible. It doesn't make him playable
@joshuavillarreal22022 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s horrible, Josh Lau played a list on stream recently that made me think somewhat favorably on the card after genuinely hating it since it was spoiled.. I’m not saying it’s good or it makes him good.. but I do think it’s an upgrade for the deck and when it works it really really feels good.. ever cast 3 sigils with one card?
@TCG_Staxwell2 ай бұрын
New bageltcg video 🙌
@BagelTCG2 ай бұрын
Bless up, keep watching that market
@user-xx1jd5et5q2 ай бұрын
I think running 9 no block cards that are stuck in your deck forever is suicidal.
@BagelTCG2 ай бұрын
Then put me on suicide watch baby because our headpiece is too good to ignore
@Lohoris3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, this looks very promising and well though out! I'll try it without Drop and Hold, and let you know how it goes!
@Jacob_Friis3 ай бұрын
Love the idea of Nuu... but the fact that everybody can run snag, is just too backbreaking... :(
@mayzee32593 ай бұрын
Thx for your Deck Tech. Super interested in Games
@themisvoul10453 ай бұрын
By playing until now, it seems that the hero ability is blank for the first cycle and it is difficult to reach 2nd cycle to get value. You are attacking to banish a card with below rate attacks, so when the opponent accepts the loss and plays 3 card hands you are at a disadvantage of 1 card.
@BagelTCG3 ай бұрын
Many of the blue attack are not below rate, and we have very above rate reactions to make up for it
@11guitarbro3 ай бұрын
The 2 tokens work with cnc , now we can do the kayo 7 go again cnc 😈
@KuganeFABTCG3 ай бұрын
At least the grain that tips the scale works on C&C xD, it has put in the work before!
@Edward_VanAuger3 ай бұрын
How would you tailor the ratios for the Blitz version of it ? Event coming soon and I expect loads of Kayos haha thanks !
@Edward_VanAuger3 ай бұрын
Very nice thanks, especially with the Kayo Armory deck recently ! Would be nice to see some gameplay as well 😊
@AyyoNevNev3 ай бұрын
As someone JUST getting into FAB this helped a lot 🔥
@focalaxisssx54903 ай бұрын
Hey, I was watching your video, and I think that you put this build in a great light. Beacon of Victory is a great way to get your lumina's or even the Spirit of Eirina, which I think is more important than the 3rd Lumina. The combo really begins on the enemies turn right as they're about to use all their cards, and before they end their turn, break your Halo of Illumination to put Spirit in your soul then it plays, and you can play all of your Lumina's that you have saved up. I think that Ideally you're just focusing on getting damage out so that they want to block for hence why I think Engulfing light, or Bolt of Courage are great because nobody wants Boltyn to charge his soul, or draw a card, even if it's only 1 damage. If it's okay with you, I can send you the deck that I use which only cost about $70 and I think it's pretty good, but of course there could be room for improvement. I really enjoyed your vid, and I hope you have a great day!
@lolligelegoleo4 ай бұрын
Nice one! Thanks for going over the tunic vs tectonic plating! Quite a different list from your own video, with less focus on clashes and actually getting the C&C's back in and more Pummels. You think you will update your list to be closer to this or you stay closer to the clash focus?
@BagelTCG3 ай бұрын
I’ve tried both extensively at this point, and I think they are fairly similar and power and depend a lot on the matchups you get and your preferred play-style. Currently, I think I might go with tunic version in this meta
@highandmighty224 ай бұрын
Amazing! <3
@SoapyStudio4 ай бұрын
absolutely phenomenal guide! :)
@lolligelegoleo4 ай бұрын
Maybe it's very obvious, but why do you prefer Tectonic Plating over Tunic? With a fair bit of 4 and 7 costs, I thought being able to play them for one less card every 3 turns would be good. Nice video and deck!
@snappycaster4 ай бұрын
You need ways to use your extra pitch when you have so many blues, in my experience anyway could be wrong.
@levirexjones4 ай бұрын
drawing 1 card equals 1 pt of value, yes? considering everyones intellect is 4
@BagelTCG4 ай бұрын
An average card is considering 3, since they can often block, attack or pitch for 3
@igoralmeida62854 ай бұрын
Hey why use copper generarion in the budget version ?
@BagelTCG4 ай бұрын
I agree that the copper generation probably isn’t necessary, check out my website for an updated version focusing on gold!
@Greyreal.5 ай бұрын
This deck is nearly 1:1 Alex Ptak's deck. Wild to not give him the shout out he deserves for creating and winning an RTN with it.
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
I linked the video in the description and mentioned it in the video, I just couldn’t remember his name in the moment
@Sea-Voyager5 ай бұрын
i thouight prism was banned?
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
They printed a new version!
@jonathanfiaschi8235 ай бұрын
Is rhinar otk berserk best than kayo otk berserk?
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
I think Rhinar is the best brute for berserk
@motty325 ай бұрын
This deck is insane and I think we would have seen this surprise a LOT of people in LA if it didnt win an RTN
@ShdowKaiser5 ай бұрын
Cool Rhinar deck, but quick disclaimer, double berserk doesn't work in the same turn as you'd hope. You can't have a discarded card count as being banished twice.
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
Ah yeah you’re right, I suppose second berserk doesn’t make a difference. Main thing is to chain 1 with a brb then
@lasterman941005 ай бұрын
I think miller + legendary shield is way better than 2H weapon build, and I also think that Balance of justice is better than crown in Victor case, because the decks that beats him the most in current meta are drawing like crazy, and drawing a card during your turn through passive and during theirs as well is honestly such a blow
@matteobalugani5 ай бұрын
Have you a fabrary page where I can see your decklist?
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
Let me know if this works! fabrary.net/profiles/a805dbdf-03ef-4896-b9e4-f584b26dd941
@xCosmic_Bearx5 ай бұрын
I signed up for legacy tier but I can’t find your discord to get the deck lists. Can you help me please?
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
Hey I’m sorry you’re having issues! I’ll message you on Patreon to get you access
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
What is your name on Patreon?
@xCosmic_Bearx5 ай бұрын
I canceled membership but if I can have it back without being charged the $7 again. That would be great. Branden Stevens is my name on there. Thank you
@Dallas-Rathalos5 ай бұрын
Do you think Olympia is D tier because he is a weak hero, or he is just outclassed by the other warriors?
@BagelTCG5 ай бұрын
Both, but mostly the latter
@jamesnightingale54485 ай бұрын
Loving your content. Very concise and insightful- much appreciated!
@mariuseza8125 ай бұрын
Kayo has (not including Swing Big) only up to power 7 cards. While you play 9 Heralds of Triumph in Prism and you are likely to have one + another Herald into Hand you can always crack your Halo to attack with Herald of Triumph and playing Figment of Triumph, decreasing the defending card‘s power by 2. I‘m not even speaking of the 3 celestial reprimands, but Kayo is definetely beatable. Not even a bad match up I would say, because you can trick the Kayo player to pop your Triumph with a power 7 (Agile Windup red e.g.) and get the on hit with Halo and Figment of Triumph
@themadmechanologist5 ай бұрын
All it took for Brutes to be S tier was losing an arm😅
@AzurielMist5 ай бұрын
Me on Vynnset QQ Runeblades really need some support/ love, I think they are the least represented in terms of results for all classes currently :L
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I find her cool as well! I am new to FAB and too late to enjoy her in CC. Fortunately, my local LGS is hosting armories in the LL format and I am thinking of building her, using this guide as the starting point. Any swap suggestions for the LL format? Thanks!
Complete tcg newby here, can every set play with everyset? Or what? I wanna buy some booster boxes but i wanna make sure i can actually use them against ppl lol
Yes, for the most part. Sometimes combos are found over the years and that causes certain cards and heroes to not be used in the competitive circuit, but for blitz and LL games, every card can be played
This looks involved enough to be fun, but repeatable enough to not be too hard to play. Also fits the flavor
whats the use of rampart of the rams head? tks
Just for the dash MU :)
Zens hero ability is so much better than nuu or enigma. It’s kind of wild how much power creep to ninja he brought. Not a fan of this at all.
Talked to Brodie S at Nats and the BH in Seattle/Tacoma and he said the current meta is just who can win by turn 3... Good job LSS 💩🤡
I think kano is viable to play into big events depending on local meta. I also think zen is favoured for kano if zen is on spellvoid/ab adding up to 3, but above that or with oasis kano is unfavoured.
Interesting list. Had my Nationals the past weekend and took Victor into it. Havent played a single Zen and made Top 8. Went 2:1 in Swiss and then 2:1 in Draft before getting to Top 8 (32 player Nationals) In the end I lost against a Kayo by having awful first hands and him doing Cast Bones into Bloodrush into Cast Bones into Bloodrush
Yeah I think 3 rounds is unfortunately not enough to gauge the power of a hero, but he can be a decent counter to some things
I see btcg, I like share and subscribe.
This guy gets it
My decks (Vynnset and Olympia) aren't F tier 🎉
This is so big for us
Well vynnset isn't.....
G-Tier? ❤
"everytime I put Kano in B tier he wins an event" well, if you put Kano in B tier when he can present a 40+ damage turn on turn 2, consistently without using equipment, that's not the deck's fault. Kano is a the best he's ever been and Enigma is a lot easier to deal with than Dromai was.
i struggle into enigma with this :c
BAGEL TCG <3
I really like MST but man no regular ninja support was disappointing, I kept expecting to see something new for Katsu and Fai but nope. Anyways, nice video, thanks Bagel.
Yeah sorry to hear about the lack of ninja support, I was hoping Fai would get some at least. Thanks for the support!
actually they got nerfed with the new gloves
Prismatic leyline is pretty dope in Katsu
@johnjohn-up2pu damn I didn't think about it like that lol
@SamTulloch makes sense, I need to try that
Really enjoying Zen, haven't quite figured out which of his cards are actually good
I'm here to demand a bad illusionist. For far too long they've all been good, and it ends now.
They can’t afford to. They pump all the money cards into that class.
Yep, Prism wasn't even allowed to be bad for two sets until they decided to directly power creep her weapon
If Kayo attained his LL points with the current rules in place, he'd actually be much further along. Most of his points came from RTN and PQs (I dont think he has won anything above a BH yet)
Vynnset in B for ballin 🏀
I think the oylpmia spec is basically unplayable :(
??? That card lets you re-equip 8 armor health for 0 resources!
@@BagelTCG You have to pay gold and use AP still and it restricts your SB
@@BagelTCG It's genuinely horrible. It doesn't make him playable
I don’t think it’s horrible, Josh Lau played a list on stream recently that made me think somewhat favorably on the card after genuinely hating it since it was spoiled.. I’m not saying it’s good or it makes him good.. but I do think it’s an upgrade for the deck and when it works it really really feels good.. ever cast 3 sigils with one card?
New bageltcg video 🙌
Bless up, keep watching that market
I think running 9 no block cards that are stuck in your deck forever is suicidal.
Then put me on suicide watch baby because our headpiece is too good to ignore
Thanks a lot, this looks very promising and well though out! I'll try it without Drop and Hold, and let you know how it goes!
Love the idea of Nuu... but the fact that everybody can run snag, is just too backbreaking... :(
Thx for your Deck Tech. Super interested in Games
By playing until now, it seems that the hero ability is blank for the first cycle and it is difficult to reach 2nd cycle to get value. You are attacking to banish a card with below rate attacks, so when the opponent accepts the loss and plays 3 card hands you are at a disadvantage of 1 card.
Many of the blue attack are not below rate, and we have very above rate reactions to make up for it
The 2 tokens work with cnc , now we can do the kayo 7 go again cnc 😈
At least the grain that tips the scale works on C&C xD, it has put in the work before!
How would you tailor the ratios for the Blitz version of it ? Event coming soon and I expect loads of Kayos haha thanks !
Very nice thanks, especially with the Kayo Armory deck recently ! Would be nice to see some gameplay as well 😊
As someone JUST getting into FAB this helped a lot 🔥
Hey, I was watching your video, and I think that you put this build in a great light. Beacon of Victory is a great way to get your lumina's or even the Spirit of Eirina, which I think is more important than the 3rd Lumina. The combo really begins on the enemies turn right as they're about to use all their cards, and before they end their turn, break your Halo of Illumination to put Spirit in your soul then it plays, and you can play all of your Lumina's that you have saved up. I think that Ideally you're just focusing on getting damage out so that they want to block for hence why I think Engulfing light, or Bolt of Courage are great because nobody wants Boltyn to charge his soul, or draw a card, even if it's only 1 damage. If it's okay with you, I can send you the deck that I use which only cost about $70 and I think it's pretty good, but of course there could be room for improvement. I really enjoyed your vid, and I hope you have a great day!
Nice one! Thanks for going over the tunic vs tectonic plating! Quite a different list from your own video, with less focus on clashes and actually getting the C&C's back in and more Pummels. You think you will update your list to be closer to this or you stay closer to the clash focus?
I’ve tried both extensively at this point, and I think they are fairly similar and power and depend a lot on the matchups you get and your preferred play-style. Currently, I think I might go with tunic version in this meta
Amazing! <3
absolutely phenomenal guide! :)
Maybe it's very obvious, but why do you prefer Tectonic Plating over Tunic? With a fair bit of 4 and 7 costs, I thought being able to play them for one less card every 3 turns would be good. Nice video and deck!
You need ways to use your extra pitch when you have so many blues, in my experience anyway could be wrong.
drawing 1 card equals 1 pt of value, yes? considering everyones intellect is 4
An average card is considering 3, since they can often block, attack or pitch for 3
Hey why use copper generarion in the budget version ?
I agree that the copper generation probably isn’t necessary, check out my website for an updated version focusing on gold!
This deck is nearly 1:1 Alex Ptak's deck. Wild to not give him the shout out he deserves for creating and winning an RTN with it.
I linked the video in the description and mentioned it in the video, I just couldn’t remember his name in the moment
i thouight prism was banned?
They printed a new version!
Is rhinar otk berserk best than kayo otk berserk?
I think Rhinar is the best brute for berserk
This deck is insane and I think we would have seen this surprise a LOT of people in LA if it didnt win an RTN
Cool Rhinar deck, but quick disclaimer, double berserk doesn't work in the same turn as you'd hope. You can't have a discarded card count as being banished twice.
Ah yeah you’re right, I suppose second berserk doesn’t make a difference. Main thing is to chain 1 with a brb then
I think miller + legendary shield is way better than 2H weapon build, and I also think that Balance of justice is better than crown in Victor case, because the decks that beats him the most in current meta are drawing like crazy, and drawing a card during your turn through passive and during theirs as well is honestly such a blow
Have you a fabrary page where I can see your decklist?
Let me know if this works! fabrary.net/profiles/a805dbdf-03ef-4896-b9e4-f584b26dd941
I signed up for legacy tier but I can’t find your discord to get the deck lists. Can you help me please?
Hey I’m sorry you’re having issues! I’ll message you on Patreon to get you access
What is your name on Patreon?
I canceled membership but if I can have it back without being charged the $7 again. That would be great. Branden Stevens is my name on there. Thank you
Do you think Olympia is D tier because he is a weak hero, or he is just outclassed by the other warriors?
Both, but mostly the latter
Loving your content. Very concise and insightful- much appreciated!
Kayo has (not including Swing Big) only up to power 7 cards. While you play 9 Heralds of Triumph in Prism and you are likely to have one + another Herald into Hand you can always crack your Halo to attack with Herald of Triumph and playing Figment of Triumph, decreasing the defending card‘s power by 2. I‘m not even speaking of the 3 celestial reprimands, but Kayo is definetely beatable. Not even a bad match up I would say, because you can trick the Kayo player to pop your Triumph with a power 7 (Agile Windup red e.g.) and get the on hit with Halo and Figment of Triumph
All it took for Brutes to be S tier was losing an arm😅
Me on Vynnset QQ Runeblades really need some support/ love, I think they are the least represented in terms of results for all classes currently :L