TMR Audio / The Music Room

TMR Audio / The Music Room

The Music Room is the largest online retailer of pre-owned HiFi Equipment in the world.

Guide to Subwoofers

Guide to Subwoofers

Devialet - Product Diversity

Devialet - Product Diversity

Rogers Amplifier

Rogers Amplifier

ModWright 845 Power Amplifiers

ModWright 845 Power Amplifiers

Analog vs. Digital

Analog vs. Digital

TMR's Purpose

TMR's Purpose

Join us in "HiFi Friday"

Join us in "HiFi Friday"

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  • @user-cf2bu6if2k
    @user-cf2bu6if2k6 күн бұрын

    QUAD ARTERA MONO, PERFECT!!

  • @phantomplastics6582
    @phantomplastics65827 күн бұрын

    It's a great product that adds tube magic without losing resolution. A good tube set is (new production) Tung-Sol 5AR4 and Electro-Harmonix gold pin 6992 and 6SN7. That sounds really appealing and then you can upgrade from there with NOS tubes like RCA 5AR4GY, Amperex 6922 and higher end new tubes such as Apos Ray Reserve or Sophia Electric, Grade A, Blue Glass 6SN7.

  • @stephencosta6814
    @stephencosta681410 күн бұрын

    I had the Nautilus 804 floor standers fantastic one of my ever

  • @nyquist5190
    @nyquist519012 күн бұрын

    Great if the author likes his vinyl. Sadly, quite a few of the factual claims he is making are not supported by evidence.

  • @emanon321
    @emanon32116 күн бұрын

    Does not sound natural unfortunately.

  • @theodore6548
    @theodore654816 күн бұрын

    Even shorter guide to subwoofers: REL.

  • @appearnowappearlater
    @appearnowappearlater18 күн бұрын

    Looks like such a fun gig!! Playing with the best gear, making some of it better and listening to zeppelin! Y’all rock 😎

  • @andreschanes2770
    @andreschanes277018 күн бұрын

    Why Rose'units do not support Amazon Music?

  • @macoygunida
    @macoygunida20 күн бұрын

    Ear fatigue

  • @keithkohley9855
    @keithkohley985522 күн бұрын

    The correct hierarchy is platter - then tonearm - then cartridge (or source) - then amplification - then speakers. You can’t recover musical information from the backend if it wasn’t retrieved at the front end.

  • @samuelcain5426
    @samuelcain542622 күн бұрын

    Hey Peter looking for a used Mark Levinson no 336 im running a Mark Levinson no 380s to possibly pair rhem together

  • @matereo
    @matereo28 күн бұрын

    yeah but the JBL 4312's or 4312 ghost sounds even better. They are in the JBL L112 area soundwise.

  • @user-pp6jd6qj4x
    @user-pp6jd6qj4x28 күн бұрын

    What a load if crap.

  • @1200supraman
    @1200supraman28 күн бұрын

    Think about this. Streaming servers are far away. The data/music is sent in pieces. Those pieces(or packets) hop from router to router around the world. Considering that fact, how are these devices going to make a difference? Keep in mind that switches operate the same way.

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj0029 күн бұрын

    simple to solve ethernet noise, just use wifi. I love Apple Music lossless

  • @auggysimcity
    @auggysimcity29 күн бұрын

    For Kenny G… Bluetooth speaker.

  • @jamesrobinson9176
    @jamesrobinson9176Ай бұрын

    Captioning is provided by KZread. You're wasting your time and possibly irritating viewers

  • @omgwtfpwnd
    @omgwtfpwndАй бұрын

    The recent TAD Reference Ones are much better and more refined, less clunky.

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579Ай бұрын

    1:55 ... Michael ... if you want real information from knowledgeable, credible sources the audiophile community is the *last* place you should turn to. From a purely technical aspect, CDs and Digital files have a much larger capacity for dynamic range, clarity, frequency response, distortion, etc than even the very best vinyl recordings. Plus, digital files do not require the RIAA equalization curve to first reduce then enhance bass... they're recorded flat. The truth be told, with proper mixing and mastering, CDs, even MP3s would mop the floor with vinyl recordings. _"But I heard a CD of my favourite music and it sounded like crap beside my vinyl pressing!"_ I'm betting it did. But not for the reasons people keep pointing out. Digital and Vinyl are mixed and mastered differently. Unfortunately, when the music industry found out how loud a CD could be, they launched into a loudness war, each trying to be the loudest track on the playlist. For years on end, every CD was mastered with virtually zero dynamic range and the 20% distortion that goes along with total compression and limiting. Of course that sounds like crap and the music studios didn't care. In the heat of this "Loudness War" I decided to back up my 60s, 70s and 80s vinyl collection by transcoding them into MP3/196 files. Once I tweaked and twiddled a bit, I got the levels right and I now have almost 4,000 files that sound exactly like their vinyl parents. *Exactly*, to the point where I can't tell them apart. Vinyl is no closer to the original performance than a FLAC file is. Neither came from a gaggle of microphones recording live performances. It is almost all studio work, and mixing console magic. In fact, some of the music you listen to probably could not be played live without a noticeable loss of talent. In the end, It is not the medium that matters ... it is the skill and talent of the studio crew, musicians and engineers that makes it all happen. Vinyl or Digital, your home system is just following a bouncy little signal who's voltage tells your amplifiers how to move the speaker cones.

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    Nothing to add. Perfect..

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579Ай бұрын

    Here's a thought .... Listen to what you're playing.... Stop listening to how you are playing it.

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    That is the spirit. I enjoy both. but the halleluja about vinyl and dissing digital is just utter bull..

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579Ай бұрын

    @@Freddystapersma69 Especially when you consider that virtually all vinyl is now digitally mixed and mastered.

  • @lfmudge8030
    @lfmudge8030Ай бұрын

    All you need is a good quality Amp with a built-in Dac and an apple box what else would you need? lots of lossless Music on Apple Music

  • @levinste2750
    @levinste2750Ай бұрын

    What about the SPL Phonitor XE vs. ADI-2 DAC FS , for Dan Clark E3 ?

  • @jungtarcph
    @jungtarcphАй бұрын

    What's the benefit of taking digital recordings and making it analog?

  • @flamespirit1
    @flamespirit1Ай бұрын

    None

  • @MichaelDoran-gh6pv
    @MichaelDoran-gh6pvАй бұрын

    Best is analogue source transferred to vinyl, no digits involved. But if the source is digital (and I understand it usually is now with vinyl pressings) this is still better than a digital file / CD. The easy response is that this can't be right as information lost in digitization is gone cannot be replaced. But it can (sort of). In getting from one static digital snapshot to the next, the vinyl is cut creating a continuous sound carrying groove. It interpolates the data (i.e makes it up as a line of least reststance to the next digital data instructing it). But this restoration of continuity sounds better than snapshot digital. How could it not ?

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelDoran-gh6pv sad for you new remasters a a lot not old tape transfers we even get mp3 to remaster.. LOL nobody diggs into the archives anymore because that is way to expensive. and most tapes are bad shape I remember Ben Liebrand with his grand 12 inch series is always on the lookout for better masters. If he finds them you get them in the mail as a wave file if ou roove you bought the cd's. your story about the snapshots is utterly bull that is not how wave, flac, aiff encoding and decoding works..

  • @MichaelDoran-gh6pv
    @MichaelDoran-gh6pvАй бұрын

    I've little doubt the vinyl copy of Louis and Ella came from a digitised 'master'. This is what made the fact that the vinyl sounded better than the Naim HDX so interesting. But the answer is , I suspect, that the hearing equipment of humans and (more importantly perhaps) the mysterious mental activity of decoding these aural signals was based on thousands of years of evolution in which our ancestors heard continuous waves, not bits. Size of sample rate not relevant. Translating 'bits' isn't the way we are wired. And a digitised master becomes a continuous sound form in vinyl because in cutting of necessity the 'digit points' are converted to continuous wave form. .

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelDoran-gh6pv ok lets tacle this; Fact one: Vinyl records often have frequencies above 15 kHz filtered out to avoid issues during the cutting process. This means that even before digitization, the signal may lack these high frequencies. so is already not lossless information from the original. agree? fact two : For most audio signals, a sampling rate of 44.1 kHz (used in CDs) is sufficient to capture frequencies up to 22.05 kHz, which is above the typical human hearing range. so it is not possible to hear in any soundsystem. (infrasound, you can feel to a sertain point as vibrations even though they are not heard.) However, higher sampling rates (96 kHz, 192 kHz) are used to ensure greater accuracy and to capture more of the signal’s detail in highres SACD and lossles downloads. Bit depths of 24-bit or higher provide a more precise representation of the signal’s amplitude, reducing quantization error and is generally already very small due to the high bit depth (16-bit), to make the quantization noise inaudible while normal CD can have a little quantization error we do not forget that vinyl has other types of noise and distortion, such as surface noise, groove wear, and limitations in the cutting. Final question to wrap things up (Ihope) . When I make a recording with digital equipment. save it as a wave file. and use that as a file to create a vinyl record. wich one is the better lossless file. Wich one can be copied exactyl the original wav or the vinyl recording. wich one needs adtional steps in the process of mastering and cutting the lacquer, which can introduce some loss or changes in the sound??

  • @jonathanthomas4722
    @jonathanthomas4722Ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @VinylShack
    @VinylShackАй бұрын

    I can't vouch for the power cables, but I have a Nordost Frey II phono cable and Transparent Audio Signature speaker cables. Both are top-notch products. Prices are very steep but buying used can grt you some great deals. My power cables are PS audio. Yes, they do make a difference.

  • @tmr_audio
    @tmr_audioАй бұрын

    Agreed! Cables definitely make a difference in your set up!

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    what a l. of bull. compare spotify with vinyl?? is the same as comapring a original full album with a top40 album.... Vinyl has at most 10bit of information.. you think new albums are recorded analog?? keep dreaming.. To avoid problems with cutting at high frequencies, everything above 15KHz was routinely filtered out. Result: vinyl sounds warmer because the high top end is simply not there. Cutting no longer happens from analog sources. On one hand, because almost no company has an analog archive* anymore or finds it profitable to send someone in** to search for the analog master. The idea that the recording would sound better after 4 mechanical transfers than the original is 100% subjective and at the same time 100% illogical. The 4 mechanical transfers: From signal via cutting head to lacquer or copper Electroplating of silver to matrix Pressing of matrix into vinyl Playing vinyl with a needle CD of those same settings would sound better than that 'beautiful' vinyl pressing. Simply by eliminating 4 mechanical steps. People who have never witnessed a cutting like to tell you their stories. If you love fantasy stories, they're the ones to go to. And now you know why vinyl sounds warmer. Warmer, but not...

  • @MichaelDoran-gh6pv
    @MichaelDoran-gh6pvАй бұрын

    thus speaks a gentleman who has never heard the same song played consecutively through digital (Naim HDX) and then through vinyl (SME 10 & modest MM cartridge). Through vinyl, Louis was a human being. Through digital, a facsimile of a human being. Both through the same Chord integrated and Martin Logan speakers. I guess some people like real tomato soup whilst others prefer to add hot water to a sachet of soup that has been first reduced to discrete particles.

  • @talosian
    @talosianАй бұрын

    I agree completely, vinyl has poor dynamic range, scratches, is inconvenient, and expensive.

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    @@MichaelDoran-gh6pv To funny so you speak to someone with 29years of experience in mastering. but hey. what do I know..

  • @MichaelDoran-gh6pv
    @MichaelDoran-gh6pvАй бұрын

    Known as the 'argument from 'authority' in philosophy. Fortunately, I have a pair of ears and they are the arbiter.

  • @MichaelDoran-gh6pv
    @MichaelDoran-gh6pvАй бұрын

    Vinyl is expensive and can scratch ? Sure -though vinyl lovers will not scratch their vinyl and hard drives have been known to fail. These statements are irrelevant. The point raised was the emotional connection that is made on vinyl with the human voice which alphabet soup cannot replicate. As for dynamic range, your comment is straightforwardly absurd. Ever heard a 45 rpm MOFI one stomper ! Foundation shaking bass and ethereal fine detail. PS In 2003 I provided my neighbour with some CD's from my CD collection before Hi Fi news visited him to write an article on his DSC/Halcro/Audio Physic system. What were you listening to twenty years ago ?

  • @sboistan
    @sboistanАй бұрын

    Can you protect larger bookshelves by wrapping this way (say, for Revel M16s)? I'm a little worried about the grille cracking during shipping...

  • @mrpmj00
    @mrpmj00Ай бұрын

    We love Apple Music lossless and hires losslesss. we can play at home, iphone, AppleTV, car Carplay.

  • @Freddystapersma69
    @Freddystapersma69Ай бұрын

    yeah AIFF is a great digital system.

  • @patrickgeorge141
    @patrickgeorge141Ай бұрын

    I now listen exclusively to cd's and only use streming for discovery and for references while in music stores. I have records, I just prefer my cd's as of late!

  • @michaelwarne3476
    @michaelwarne3476Ай бұрын

    I purchase new and used gear almost exclusively from TMR due to their integrity, service, product lines, staff... I could go on and on. Excellent well run company, and if anything goes wrong it will be corrected promptly. Pricing is frequently competitive with "no-return" peer to peer sellers but TMR has a no questions asked return policy which relieves much of the guesswork concerning, "did I buy the right thing"? (Helps keep the audio nervosa down...) Keep up the great work TMR!

  • @googoo-gjoob
    @googoo-gjoobАй бұрын

    i bought my pre, dac, transport & amps from TMR. they helped me put together my _end game_ system. appreciative for their help.

  • @robertbyington7715
    @robertbyington7715Ай бұрын

    My brother and I have bought thousands and thousands of dollars worth of equipment from the MR and I wouldn’t buy used equipment from anywhere else in the country. Products Price and Customer Service is second to none

  • @Yooyangs
    @YooyangsАй бұрын

    I’ve had a couple of purchases from TMR. I’ve been happy with the products, the price and the customer service!!

  • @figgymoonpowda
    @figgymoonpowdaАй бұрын

    Very cool to see. I had a great experience with TMR and look forward to more of them.

  • @CarlVanDoren61
    @CarlVanDoren612 ай бұрын

    Coda Ts v3 800w@4ohms w 20.7s 😊

  • @tfleiter
    @tfleiter2 ай бұрын

    Totally depending what kind of music you are listening to. We have “Maggies” in two different rooms and i prefer NAD amplifiers combined with them for the classical music/opera we are listening to. Sure - monster amps will probably sound better but won’t change the fact that the speakers are revealing bad recordings right away….with or without a high end amp connected to them.

  • @frankfirst6863
    @frankfirst68632 ай бұрын

    Better than Krell at their peak with Dan there? I doubt it.

  • @peterlundskow4061
    @peterlundskow40612 ай бұрын

    This is The Music Room's location in Erie, CO I attended this event, was very good! They are going to have more events with other audiophile companies in future.

  • @sbrinckoo855
    @sbrinckoo8552 ай бұрын

    Looks intriguing so this is at the music room in Colorado?? Hopefully I didn’t miss this at Axpona?

  • @we8463
    @we84632 ай бұрын

    So funny the audience is so typical a bunch of older white dudes! Listening to crappy “Audiophiles boring music”

  • @timoteo6687
    @timoteo66873 ай бұрын

    I don't understand why everyone is using gigawatt amps to drive their Maggies. I have original MG-IIIa speakers (refurbished once) and drive them with an old Adcom GFA-535 amp (100 watts/channel into 4 ohms). I can drive my Maggies to deafening levels - so loud I can't possibly be in the room with them - what I would call deafening levels - before the amp's clipping lights come on. This is in a 14'x22' room.

  • @siriosstar4789
    @siriosstar47893 ай бұрын

    not being familiar with all the terms in hi fi ,i'm a bit confused the way SPL words their products ., is the " Control One " also a preamp that can be used with most hi fi gear?

  • @michalzukowski1683
    @michalzukowski16833 ай бұрын

    Do you recommend this model for a small room? dimension 11m2 ,I'm currently listening to the p3 model there ,but I'm curious how he will cope in this size compact 7XD .

  • @davidrobin3480
    @davidrobin34803 ай бұрын

    I would like to see an I2S Input on these Rose streamers as the internal DAC is such a good one already, please provide the I2S Input on the hardware going forward, this would add to this amazing unit. 👌

  • @richarddegannes2928
    @richarddegannes29283 ай бұрын

    Hi, Can this Fezz Titania Integrated use KT 150 tubes? Can I pair this Integrated with my Revival Audio Atalante 5 speakers?

  • @Drackleyrva
    @Drackleyrva3 ай бұрын

    Does Vandersteen pair well with Luxman?

  • @chrislj2890
    @chrislj28903 ай бұрын

    I still have my Magnepan MG-1.5/QR speakers and Adcom GFA-555 II amp from over 30 years ago and they still work fine, although not being presently used. At the time it was a pretty great setup for me, and it's hard to beat those speakers for detail and sound staging when properly set up.

  • @markrosenthal9108
    @markrosenthal91084 ай бұрын

    Sanders Magtech. 900 watts per channel into 4 ohms with the stereo amp. A monoblock is also available.

  • @CarlVanDoren61
    @CarlVanDoren612 ай бұрын

    Own 20.7s?

  • @Skye_the_toller
    @Skye_the_toller4 ай бұрын

    Still not understand how people stands beside of it to play with the screen! Save the money of the screen supply a a good app for phone & tablets!

  • @philippezenhaeusern8117
    @philippezenhaeusern81174 ай бұрын

    Wow, having similar setup, same speakers, same stands, quite a bit upscale amp and dac compared to your setup, but those speakers really can deal with premium inputs :) Just wanted to share a word of gratitude for the tip with the sub, after watching this video I bought one against the recommendation of my dealer and I can only say I don't regret it, in fact, I would say without it my system was not complete. Thanks you for the great video and sharing your experience, can only highly recommend this setup!