My name is Tyler and I'm a Michigan based Jeep and offroad enthusiast. I'm a Mechanical Engineer set out to build my 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, while documenting the build and offroad/overlanding adventures along the way.
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Love all the work you've done on your wj! I have an 03 wj overlander that I have been slowly building. I just bought the same bumper you have, its HEAVY !!! Did you upgrade brakes??? I'm only running 33s and I feel my brakes are working harder than they should. If you upgraded brakes, what brand did you go with? Thanks!
Thank you! No upgraded brakes right now. Just better pads.
Yo sick video dude love the build! Im currently rebuilding my 04 WJ Freedom edition. Working on the front upper and lower control arms :) I was just noticing you don't have the passenger upper arm on, any reason why? but dope video again gets me pumped to build mine up
The second half of the video explains the details of the suspension. This is a 3 link so there is only 1 upper link. Works the same as a 4 link but packaging constraints doesn't allow room for a 4th without further modification.
Тачка супер 💪💪💪
I'll always take the Jeep over anything
100%. Just interesting when you realize I still have the stock AWD transfer case in here.
Clean. Very Awesome Jeep you have there.
For me I know most people think my truck looks nicer clean, but I'm a hell of a lot happier when she's dirty.
If you wanted this sounds but just a little deeper, YOU should have Bought MBRP T~304 Full Cat~Back Exhaust ; This is what I Bought for my Veloster Turbo you want regret it🎯👌🏾‼️
Might not come across well in the video, but this setup is actually deeper than most. But regardless, I will pretty much always choose to make my own stuff before buying. Not to mention the price difference.
Bro ...those tires are sick..!...How much each..??!
Actually just made a full video about the tires. Check it out! kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z51ouZumn5icgdY.html For prices, that will depend on size and retailer. They are sold through many different retailers.
I ran both Tru Tracs and Norseman tires back in the day. I'm excited to see them back, but their website does not list tire weight. Tire weight is a primary design criteria that I look at when choosing tires.
I agree weight can be a big factor for power/mpg, but also keep in mind heavier tires keeps more weight low to the ground which can be beneficial for low speed crawling.
Why would you announce this man. Let ppl do,their out research. Youre just driving up the price. Sad really.
It's a shame that Armstrong is focusing on the BroDozer market with 20 inch wheel sizes instead of the real offroaders market where 17's are the go-to size. I'd buy a set of these if they were available as a 37 or 38 for a 17 inch wheel.
I completely agree. If more offroaders show interest, I'm hopeful we can change that.
I thought Armstrong was no longer?
They're back and better than ever!
You should check out the Doetsch Tech shocks I find they are a good middle ground of soft and stiff, awesome build!
In order to know about Armstrong tires you need to be at least 35 plus years old lol.
What wheels are you running? Leave the mic on the side of the road and drive by it. Can everyone hear you coming? That's what I think of when I think mud tire on the road.
Wheels are from Hartes Metal. And good suggestion. Will have to try that.
These look great and I don’t doubt their performance but man, they are heavy compared to other E rated mud tires. I’m actually in the market and looking.
What have you compared them to?
@@engineeringoverland every 35x12.5 R17 MT tire I’ve looked at has been about 10lbs lighter, or more (per tire) than this tire. Toyo, Nitto, Mickey T, Kenda and Yokohama. Light weight isn’t everything but it’s something to consider.
Nitto trail grappler is almost 4 lbs heavier than this. No 2 tires that are the same size will ever be 10lbs different.
Yokohama is like 16 lbs lighter.
@@engineeringoverland nitto trail grappler is 79.89 lbs Armstrong desert dog mt is 86.42 lbs. pretty sure the Armstrong is the heaviest 35x12.50 tire I’ve come across.
I would go to my local machine shop and have them machine a spacer where the drive shaft bolts on. Order a 1 inch spacer. its easier than changing and making custom driveshafts.
Even when she dirty she clean
It sucks they no sizes for a R15......and then just one size for the R17.....
I agree, the the only negative is the current size availability. But lets hope more interest means more sizes!
Ну что могу сказать, молодец 👍 тоже о джипе мечтаю, но у нас все это могут позволить только богатые
Thank you!
You're too young to of heard of them... 😀Pirelli bought Armstrong in the late 80s and in the early 90s, they phased them out. A friend who ran a Class 8 truck was sponsored by Armstrong Tire. As mentioned the Tru Trac 32-11.50-15 Bias Ply tire was the go to in the 70s... aired down to single digits. (I believe they were available in a radial briefly) We also ran aircraft tires here in the SW deserts... Gates Commando... Goodyear Hi-Miler... Firestone... Every tractor implement dealer sold some type of bias ply farm/off road tire., many ran them on Jeeps, FJ-40s, Broncos & Scouts... all the pick ups... Your aired down test shows why load range E tires should be left to heavier trucks and not Jeeps... sure folks run them, but there is no need.
It’s a good thing I’m really good at research then 😉. I study up when it comes to this offroad stuff. But saying there is no need to run a LR E tire mostly boils down to the fact that size availability sometimes limits you. I think this demo actually shows that they can work great with the right tire. Bias ply tires have even stiffer sidewalls. Which is why they NEED to be aired down to single digits. Seeing this sidewall flex at 5 psi is exactly why they can work well.
Never heard of them not because of marketing! I’m glad to run across your video. Will check them out now that I’m in the market for off road tires!! Hope the channel is doing well !!
That's what I'm here for! Love finding hidden gems like this. I don't mind being the guinea pig.
Excellent. We just bought a 24 Rogue SL premium with AWD. We live in a mountain area so I’ll be interested to see if it handles the terrain well. One question that I’ve asked and haven’t been given a clear answer on is this: when the Pro Pilot cruise applies the brakes, do the brake lights come on as well?
Typically, with any vehicle, if there is a system that applies the brakes for you, the brake lights will also turn on as normal. But I cannot say I have actual video proof of this with my Rogue.
@@engineeringoverland thank you I appreciate that. I can ask the dealer again, but they didn’t seem to have a real good idea. I’ll check with my mechanic also.
id just go to my local exhaust shop and get some tubes bent up and make a set. These are easy enough to build from scratch.
Hope you're bringing thicker material to the exhaust shop and not planning on using exhaust pipe! I also should mention, I bought these for $25.
@@engineeringoverland definitely not exhaust gauge no. It's easy to pick up some thick walk tubing at any local stockist.
I had every plan for building my own, but you can't even get one piece of material for the price I got these fully assembled sliders. So, I made them work.
@@engineeringoverland @ $25 you did the right thing. Can't fault that.
Looks amazing! What rock sliders do you have?
Thanks! These are the factory overland rock rails. But I've changed them since this video.
I am writing you and asking questions and not watching the video and you’re answering all the questions sorry about that I’m just gonna listen to your video👍👍👍💪💪💪🦾🦾🦾👍👍👍👍
Hope you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.
Your truck is a beast and tires are definitely I’ve never really off-road in my truck yet I have a 2018 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport I bought it two months ago because I wanted to six cylinder and I was looking for 2023 and my daughter‘s uncle works for a Toyota dealership and he’s always been able to take care of everybody in the past but since the new Tacoma has a four-cylinder nobody wants it I’m not saying nobody but people that are really into Toyota they want the sixth cylinder motor across the street from my house is a big valley big valley and I have a John Deere gator 825 I I bought it in 2016 brand new I never went anywhere besides across the street and when I say across the street it’s really big over there and it goes to other areas as well but I’m gonna put it in exhaust system and raise it up and get some new tires but I am working on my truck right now but I am going to do some stuff to that so I can take it with me when I finally do go somewhere I can take my truck Those tires can you ride them like all-terrain tires or will they get wore out black when I was younger I’m 48 so I’m not that young but when I was young I had a rodeo at the grill guards the ski racks in the fog lights like this is back in 1996 and I bought Mickey Thompson off-road tires didn’t get all-terrain I got off-road but like back then the selection wasn’t like it is now with all terrain tires and all that stuff but I just bought them because I like the way they sounded when you drove on the street I was just young and they were out pretty quick that’s because I was young and I drove a lot but do you recommend that for all-terrain tire I mean like I don’t drive my truck that much so if I did buy something like that how long would it last how many miles because you have the experience with them I’m not gonna believe somebody who don’t know what you’re talking about and you definitely sound like you know what you’re talking about my son actually has the same truck as you got Jeep Cherokee I am 110 years ago I had that I know infinity I 35 and a 350 Z
I got my first Jeep some 50 years ago now. There was a time when we really only had two choices for off-road tires, Armstrong and Dick Cepek. The Cepeks were just Armstrongs with Dick Cepek's logo on them. I grew up in the Desert Southwest, I always ran Desert Dogs off-road and Norsemans Monday thru Friday.
So much history with these tires! Makes me happy this reincarnation doesn't disappoint!
Armstrong tru-tracs were big in the 70's, they had what was called the norseman tread pattern
Pretty awesome to have a new modern take on the original classic!
We ran the oldschool Desert Dogs for years on our Jeeps
Knew there would be some OG's in here!
Kenda clever has been awesome for about 28k. Still going strong
Haven't heard much about those, but they're some nice looking tires!
The Armstrong Desert Dog reminds me a lot of the Milestar Patagonia MT. They are both Awesome looking tires.
They definitely have some similarities, but having run both, I personally have to put this one on top!
Bring back to old Armstrong “try-trac” tires. Make them in all sizes. My father had set on 47 and 1980 Jeep CJ. “32x11.50x15”
Tru-trac
They actually make several Tru-Trac tires! Not sure if they have all of the sizes, but check out their website.
After a quick look at the website, very limited in tires sizes.
Yeah, unfortunately the sizes for 17" wheel are very limited right now. Hoping we can change that by getting more interest through these videos!
I have the 35x12.50R18 on my 2019 f150 and from a foresters pov it has done really well in the mud. Not overly loud for an mt either.
They are definitely quieter than the average mud terrain!
@engineeringoverland they were only 2db louder than the perelli atr and 2db quieter than the toyo mts I took off.
Armstrong tru trac 1976 on my 70 blazer
Awesome!
Armstrong was always my go to tire. I used to run Armstrong Norseman tires in the late 70's on my fj40. Great to see them making a comeback.
They've done a great job checking all the boxes of a modern MT.
Price?
I just found the size he is showing for mid $800s to get 4 tires. I can't find them in 33s which I need.
I got mine through Tire Streets. Price will depend on your size.
I picked up 35x12.50R18 for 900 ish
What did it cost to do this lift my f150 frame finally rotted all the way out about a year ago and I have brand new 35” gladiators taking up space, and! My neighbor just happed to put a for sale sign on there’s in the driveway haven’t checked it out yet. I have a dilemma idk if I should just keep looking for a 05 f150 4 door " there all rotted” and put my lift on that
This kit is a bit over $3000. But, that being said, you can do it cheaper.
What’s yours gear ratio???
3.73
@@engineeringoverland no problems on 35”s ?
put a wider roof rack on and longer then you can carry stuff and have the awning secure
I definitely would like a different roof rack in the future, but to your point, I can do both of those things with this setup right now!
@@engineeringoverland you can yes check out a few aussie 4x4s and you get some really good ideas
by the way i have a wj and i love yours we cant go that extreme here
took you long enough to start using them her in Australia we have had them for years
Been looking hard for an overland edition. Only keeps past the limited I’ve been able to find are the “Trail Rated” jeeps. Not a single overland. This colors been hard to find with the color match everything as well. You’ve got gold for sure!
They've definitely become harder and harder to find good ones!
How many miles do you have on the tires, I’m looking at buying a set.
Keep your notifications on. I have something coming you'll probably wanna see before buying!
It was clean... them cleaner... you need a better mud pit lol😂 love your WJ man! Sharp looking rig!
Thanks! I'm not a huge mud guy, and there was definitely a lot more underneath than what you can see here!
@@engineeringoverland I know what you mean. My wj has a 6.5in lift with bushwacker flares. The flares really help keep it from splashing mid up onto the body but I'll have to scoop 20+ lbs of mud off my skid plates when get done in the mountains. 😆
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Hola, soy de Chile y he visto varios videos son muy buenos , pero falto un pequeño detalle cual es la medida o distancias que utilizas de los brazos largos delanteros con los neunaticos 35" para no cortar el guarda fango. Hello, I am from Chile and I have seen several videos, they are very good, but I am missing a small detail, which is the measurement or distances that you use for the front long arms with the 35" tires so as not to cut the mud guard.
Unfortunately, I don't remember the exact total length of the control arms. I set my wheelbase back when installing the lift, then later on did an additional 1" of stretch to clear the 35's.
Gracias
You was lucky that chain didn't break ! It would of mist your jeep up or hurt some one bad
I saw that on the gods must be crazy movie
only took the help of a chevy
Like a rock, just a good anchor.