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  @alkbkb89232 ай бұрын

  Salut, c'est dingue car tu as eu les 2 scooters qui me font de l'œil en ce moment, à savoir le xciting 400s et le maxsym tl 508. Pour une utilisation urbaine , lequel conseillerais tu ? (merci pour tes vidéos)

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  @vincent21672 ай бұрын

  Salut, mon S400 était un modèle euro 4 équipé d'un variateur Polini high speed (acheté comme ça d'occasion). Jusqu'à 60-70 km/h, il était plus vif que le TL 508 avec des galets de 13g. Il ferait donc parfaitement l'affaire en utilisation urbaine. Ce que l'on gagne avec le 508 est un meilleur comportement routier, meilleures suspensions (rendant le duo très confortable) et le bruit envoûtant du bicylindre. Le 508 est supérieur dans l'ensemble mais pour une utilisation urbaine, le 400 serait un excellent choix également.

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  @atillasenturk21122 ай бұрын

  Bad start

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  @robertdobbelaer85033 ай бұрын

  Good to see this, a real world acceleration test instead of those motorcycle magazine test who take a super light and very experienced rider for the acceleration test.

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  @vincent21673 ай бұрын

  Thanks, I starting riding motorcycles 10 months ago, so I am indeed a beginner. I rode automatic maxi scooters beforehand and where I live, I was able to buy directly a non power limited motorcycle without any additional course or test.

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  @robertdobbelaer85033 ай бұрын

  Well, your Suzuki is an excellent motorcycle to ride for experienced and less experienced riders😊

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  @clamils91383 ай бұрын

  Quindi da 0 a 100?

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  @vincent21673 ай бұрын

  4.51 seconds (GPS measurement)

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  @dayanivanisevic93845 ай бұрын

  Is the sym 500 reliable or not? This is the only thing stopping me from buying one…

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  @vincent21675 ай бұрын

  On my TL 508, I had an issue with excessively high oil consumption (~0.75L/1000km). Initially, I was told that the tolerance is up to 1L/1000km, but the issue was escalated to SYM, and my engine was replaced under warranty at 4000 km. This problem seems to affect very very few models (my dealer had heard of only one other case in Switzerland). Since the replacement of my engine, it still consumes a bit of oil (~0.25L/1000km), but I frequently use highways, and I've also installed 13g rollers at 5000 km (which means the engine revs higher). Apart from that, eveything is fine.

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  @Mr.Riffian4 ай бұрын

  What was the reason of excessive oil consumption? I'm looking for a maxi scooter too and the 508 TL is one of the scooters I'm eyeballing.

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  @vincent21674 ай бұрын

  I think it was a piston/cylinder manufacturing defect only impacting a few units. I didn't get more details.@@Mr.Riffian

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  @bertlzansinger8 ай бұрын

  Interesting. My 400cc scooter is on the 0-100kph (have different rollers applied as well)

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  @strezification9 ай бұрын

  Same situation here buddy i came to SYM TL 508 from Kymco Xciting 400s and the difference is how smooth the SYM is and it handles better and the suspension is far better. Kymco is faster and more dynamic at start better acceleration but this pulls better after 50 60 kmh. What is the maximum speed you achieved and fuel consumption after the break in period and did ypu had amy issues with the bike so far? Cheerz

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  @vincent21679 ай бұрын

  You perfectly summarized it ! I never tried to test the max speed, I managed to reach around 150 km/h without any issue. I actually had my engine replaced under warranty at around 4000 km because the engine oil consumption was high (greater than 0.5 liter per 1000km). No issue since then. Still a bit of oil consumption, but that could be because I do a lot of highway (regularly up to 120 km in one day). I installed 13gr rollers and my consumption is around 4.8 L/100 km. These light rollers improve significantly the performance, here is a comparison I made: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYihqq-pcpbfaLg.html

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  @strezification9 ай бұрын

  @@vincent2167 Wow that's a pretty serious stuff...Replacing engine at only 4000km is a big deal. Are you famiIiar that this problem happened on anyone else or it was just yours as an isolated unit?I hope it won't happen on mine...🙄But i guess you only get as much you pay. TL 508 is almost half the price of Yamaha Tmax and almost 6000 euro less than Honda Xadv in my country. You can never go wrong with the Japanese but they are too expensive...

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  @vincent21679 ай бұрын

  @@strezification The oil consumption issue was there from the start (I already noticed it during the break-in period). If you don’t have this problem on your model, you shouldn’t worry at all. It is not a widespread issue, I have only heard about one other case on my side.

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  @strezification9 ай бұрын

  @@vincent2167 I've only made like 400km so far and i haven't checked the oil level until now. After how many km would you consider that the break in period is done? Thank you

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  @vincent21679 ай бұрын

  @@strezification 1000 km (time of the first oil change)

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  @deWerki9 ай бұрын

  Hello what are the dimensions of the roles (weights) Original 15g. 25x15mm ? Thanks

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  @vincent21679 ай бұрын

  Hello, yes it is 25x15mm.

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  @surdzo10 ай бұрын

  350cc scooter is faster than this, cheaper than this, more practical than this, cheaper and easier to maintain than this, I don’t get the point owning this one!?

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  @vincent21679 ай бұрын

  If you often ride solo in the city, a lighter lower cc scooter could indeed make more sense. Past 50 km/h the TL 508 is much faster than any 350/400cc scooter (especially over 100 km/h). I had a Kymco Xciting S with a Polini variator just before this one, so I speak from experience. As I ride a lot on the highway for my commute, this scooter is significantly better. It is not in the same league of smaller cc scooters in terms of : - Handling : The TL has a motorbike like chassis - Suspension : So much more comfortable according to my passenger - Acceleration at highway speed Cherry on the cake: The exhaust noise of this 2 cylinders is great.

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  @surdzo9 ай бұрын

  @@vincent2167 I agree with you but only if ride 80/20 in favor of highway, majority of scooter riders, ride their vehicles in urban areas and rarely ride on highways during the year. So most of riders appreciate 350-400 because of their nippiness. My opinion is that if i really have lots of highway rides i would always go with proper motorcycle instead of any scooter for that matter. Especially if you take in consideration the price of 500+cc scooters. For me it is pointless to purchase yamaha tmax for example for 18.000 eur instead of Tracer 9 GT for same price or less. Or honda xadv 750 instead of Africa Twin, NT 1100 or Trans Alp 750.

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  @saveriosoreca8074 Жыл бұрын

  What is the max speed with 15gr and 13gr rollers?

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  I didn't test the top speed with the speed limitations around. On the 13gr, I reached one time 154 km/h (141 km/h GPS). The RPM was around 6750 which is the maximum power band of the scooter, which means that until 154 km/h, we don't lose in acceleration vs a stock 15 gr setup.

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  @saveriosoreca8074 Жыл бұрын

  @@vincent2167 thank you very much

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  @davidhu0603 Жыл бұрын

  Polini is more better

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  @Wleez Жыл бұрын

  I wsnt to buy. Do you kbow the exact detail?

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  @templatedesign9524 Жыл бұрын

  Ma che cazzo di prove sono. fatte proprio coi piedi.

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  @faustolino100 Жыл бұрын

  No date ??🤔

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  @insajder6684 Жыл бұрын

  Do you feel vibrations on the engine at 130 km/h? Can the motorcycle be driven comfortably on the highway?

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  It is very comfortable to drive at that speed (didn't notice any disturbing vibrations). I drive a lot on the highway and the scooter is perfectly suited for that. Good protection, handling and enough power.

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  @user-os6ef2rr3o Жыл бұрын

  Όμορφη μοτοσικλέτα

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  @abdulsalim234 Жыл бұрын

  What is top speeds of this machine

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  I haven't tested it

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  @user-mg1et8yh8s6 ай бұрын

  I've seen someone hitting 167kh

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  @user-xx7cv8pq7r Жыл бұрын

  What a beautiful road, where is it? Switzerland?

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  It's in France, but the location is not very far from Switzerland

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  @georgem2456 Жыл бұрын

  What do you think about the scooter? I believe its good, but I would like to know it's negatives.

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  I am very happy with my purchase. Here is a quick comparison with my former EURO 4 Kymco Xciting S 400 equiped with a Polini variator: TL 508 pros: - Much better comfort and stability when driving - Very smooth transmission which allows to drive relaxed in short city ride (it was very on/off on my xciting, probably due to the Polini variator) - Slight performance increase at high speed - I LOVE the sound of the bicylinder TL 508 cons: - Not the fastest to take off from a green light (the S400 was quicker from 0 to 50-60 km/h) - For my usage, I found more convenient to have a handbrake on the handlebsar rather than the side stand braking implemented on the TL - Chain transmission which required some maintenance For my usage which includes regularly 130km of highway in one day, the TL perfectly fits my needs. For someone who is only doing city driving and wants the best acceleration within city speed limits, a EURO4 S400 with a variator may be a better choice (can't comment on the EURO5 version which is less powerful).

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  @georgem2456 Жыл бұрын

  @@vincent2167 Wow, a very informative and thorough response. And what about fuel consumption? Cause I've heard that the TL can be a bit thirsty when you roll the throttle a bit more.

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  ​@@georgem2456 There is some variability indeed. Driving normally, my consumption was around 4.7 / 100 km. During more intense sessions, it was more around 5.3L / 100 km.

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  @georgem2456 Жыл бұрын

  @@vincent2167 These are good numbers to be honest. If you put a Polini 12ball kit, you would get the best you can have from the TL. In Greece many people have tested the Malossi kit, the Polini 8ball kit and the Polini 12ball kit and the last one is the best

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  @strezification Жыл бұрын

  What is the difference between speedometer and real life GPS speed? How much is the speedometer lying?

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  The speedometer is approximately 10% more optimistic than the GPS

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  @strezification Жыл бұрын

  What is the difference between speedometer and real life GPS speed? How much is the speedometer lying?

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  The speedometer is approximately 10% more optimistic than the GPS

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  @serkangzts Жыл бұрын

  What is top speed

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  @vincent2167 Жыл бұрын

  @@serkangzts I did not test it. 130 km/h GPS is reached without difficulty.

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  @serkangzts Жыл бұрын

  @@vincent2167 thanks for your answer