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Well at least you showed the truth 👍👍👍
Glad to see this 40+ game review out. i was hoping to get mine drilled today but my pro shop was closed til Saturday so I'll have to wait to see how it rolls personally but this was encouraging from Aaron. I wanted something more controllable from my NU Blue and by the looks of it, it is. Good stuff again X In The Pit guys!
20 bucks says you can't repeat that same shot. Oh No replying the video back again wont work😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤ Another fine video by the X-Men hmm MOTIV Man James should be tossin this ball being he's the MOTIV MAN TOSSER 😂🤣😂🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
Glad to see Aaron review these two balls. I have the NU Blue and just picked up the Rattler NU and going to get it drilled up tomorrow. The NU Blue went just a bit too long if I didn't keep up on the surface and I was hoping the the Rattler NU would pick up a couple of feet sooner with the stronger core numbers and from what I saw with Aaron the Rattler NU did pick up sooner. I wish he would have said what surface maintenance he uses on the NU Blue, unless I missed it. Thanks for the honest review guys we really appreciate it.
Just ordered the rattler nu since I don’t have anything with that motion and that attention star we discussed a few weeks ago is a beast
You can smell the betrayal 😂😂😂
Man Early made this bad boy look sa-weet! All I can complain on is Early isn't left handed! Can't wait to see the 50+ game review. Good stuff guys.
Love this ball shot 299 ( ugh 1 pin ) first game out of box way above its price point as in performance and i was told it takes surface very well, tempted to get another one drilled and apply surface to it with a different layout the one i have now is 50x4.5x30
I think I want that shirt
Early!!!! My other favorite bowler besides James! This is gonna be good 👍.
I am not a as you say James a "Kool-aid" sipper at all but because you guys give us the real real I still have to see what this X-Cell is all about. So being a bowler and a fan of bowling I appreciate all your reviews.
Hello boys an girls Welcome to Xin the pit. I'm James and kicking ass and drilling balls. I call the shots and if you don't like it too bad I call it like I see it. Lol, you guys Rock still and have one of the best informative and down to earth reviews which as a league bowler is much appreciated ❤️❤️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍👍 one more how does this compare to the extreme envy. James, I am excited to see you do a review on the new MOTIV Liberty. I will say this I have a staffer on one of my leagues here on from MOTIV who pulled that ball out all I can say is OMG DYNOMITE BOOM
Didn't even notice this video! It's really funny that you did back to back videos of the two balls I just added to my bag. Haven't had a chance to throw the Raw yet, but I did just throw the Vibe.
The Hammer Raw Hybrid!!! is a really good ball!! In my opinion it puts the Raw line in the same conversation as the Hustle and Thrill lines!! We try to throw and review all the releases from the big 3 companies B7 Storm brands Motiv
Your videos are great love the first 10 and then that you review it again after 50+ games no one else does that. I have the virtual energy black out but when I move left it doesn’t make the corner. Was thinking about the hammer effect as a substitute do you think that’s a better option? Thanks again all the great videos
Thank you for the support! We try to give as much info as possible one video fresh off the press. Then another video after 50 games because every bowling ball has a break in period. Plus bowling is expensive and not every bowler matches up to every ball. Just drilling a ball and throwing it 5 to 10 times doesn't give an honest review in my opinion!! but any way back to the question lol. I had no success with the VEBO I put 100+ games and 2 different layouts on mine.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKuaxspyl7eblNI.htmlsi=5oXXl387uZXy7XPr The Hammer Effect is way better in my opinion!!
@@XInThePit awesome I watched the two effect video’s definitely going to get one before my league season starts!
Lol you look like a goon throwing the ball 😅
Another good review James. Not sure I would get one even after your stellar review.....Just not a Storm guy but I appreciate your honest remarks of it's versatility. Thanks
Thank you!!! I am not a huge storm guy either, That being said they have some decent products that could fill out a bag for some non storm guys. Always worth a chance to throw one you might surprise yourself? lol.
Hate to hear you gave up a Shock for this ball. The whole Venom line up are among my favorite balls.
Venom shock is one of my favorite benchmark balls. Iq tour solid was always my favorite from storm until this ball... The Ion Pro by storm is really good!! I sold my venom shock because I have the Ion Pro and Exj Venom!!
@@XInThePit it’s a statement on how usable you find this ball
Hey James, when are you going to start bottling and selling that energy? I'm stocking up when you do! Signed, a tired old man.😅 P.s. another awesome video!
Thank you!! Just passion for the game lol
I enjoyed this review when I got the Black Venom this ExJ Venom was in the final choices. Hope I made the right choice with the Black Venom. Still thanks for the straight up talk.
Black venom Is one of my Favorites!! Qwinten really liked his he bought 3 of them lol.
Just got it any tips
A lot of people have to adjust the surface to get what they want out of this ball!! actually a lot of hk22 ball require surface adjustments to get a usable line or more forgiving line. This arctic vibe is not very friendly with out of box surface.
@@XInThePit thanks man I might pick your brain some more later
Another great video by the X-Men❤❤❤👍👍I have this ball couldn’t wait for it. ABSOLUTELY HATE IT !!My Evoke is far better and my black venom . Hope the new pride liberty turns out better. This ball was imo money out the window unless you throw like Tackett with 500+ Revs also love my Raptor fury one if my faves any P/U July 1 sold it July 12 Got the new Harsh reality pearl comin we’ll see you guys Quinton made it look good along with a few others you all have a great day James keep up the great info vids ❤️👍🇺🇸🇺🇸Also a PSO told me I should have hit with a 3000 pad like he did and the ball was totally diff COME ON ARRON JUST SAY IT THIS BALL IS PURE TRASH FANCY COVER OR NOT 😎😎😎👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you!!!!! Im sorry to hear you didn't like the ExJ Venom, Aaron is not a huge fan of motiv. That is why he did the review! I wanted to see if this ball would change his opinion on the brand and it did! ExJ Venom good lol
I have 4 of them only 1 has holes in it. The cover stock is noticeably stronger than the original Venom Shock. I cannot use it on a fresh THS for more than 1/2 of a game whereas my Venom Shock can go a game and a half before I have to consider changing or moving to much.
Yes the new coverstock is stronger and doesn't lane shine as much as the venom shock!!
my 78d hooks way too much! i drilled it the weakest layout in the 2ls system. i throw about 14.5 mph with about 300 rev rate. any suggestions?
You can try a little polish on it.
Wow after getting back into bowling. Watching your videos you can really depict the sound of some balls some hit hard the other ones hit like a convoy of garbage truck just like this one . I don’t have a global might need to get this but also considering the Attention Star ???Thoughts??? Both have asym but not sure if they both have AI cores once again another fine video by the X-Men 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 James I know it just came out gonna be a while but can’t wait to See you Mr MOTIV MAN throw the new Pride Liberty yowza looks good and the red just frickin POPS BOOM🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍 Also Quinton must have been A I hmmm 😊😊
Attention star is a really good control piece!! The Harsh reality solid and Harsh reality pearl are really goos as well just a little stronger.
@@XInThePit wow really that's good to know
wood lanes?
Yes real wood lanes. they play about 2 to 4 boards different then most synthetic.
I cringe when bowlers say that they bake their ball in the oven or wash it in the dishwasher. My wife is a food safety specialist and I tend to listen to her. Having petroleum all over an area where it can come into contact with items associated with food is not a wise decision. It can lead to long-term health issues that you may not realize came from that decision. Listen to what these guys are telling you. They are genuinely concerned for you and your balls.
Yes!!!! plus the potential to destroy the bowling ball! I would rather let the shop handle it!
This Scorpion Strike looks sweet!
This ball looks amazing!!!!!!
Sharp looking ball. Seems to carry all the hits.
Good ball so far. cover is breaking in and shape is changing a little.
Activator Plus 3.0
Yes No HK22 cover. explains why I liked it lol
Vertical energy blackout. Can this be used after my vebo starts to get over under. I now am using a zen gold
I honestly didn't have a lot of success with the VEBO They might play off each other I really like the ion game 2. My Vebo played late game 2 almost game 3.
Hammer churning out some winners this year.
Scorpion low flare and strike are really good options!!!!
Keep em Comin JAMES love love all your Video and all the X-MEN. Quick question James what is the looks all white ball on your rack in the shop???? Also as a Motiv/Hammer head this ball an d the Arctic Vibe where great big duds in my opinion just say the max thrill puts this to shame But I appreciate all your reviews. Thanks Denis Mac❤❤❤👍👍👍
The white ball on the shelf is a JOPO Grips spare ball. The Max Thrills are hard to beat in my opinion!!
Channel is great!Love the variety of balls and brands!
Thank you!!! we appreciate the support!!!
Why does it hit so hard I love it 💥💥
The Harsh solid and pearl are really good!!!!! both hit like a truck!!!!
@@XInThePit yea I have the solid in my bag
Wow! I was not expecting this when I clicked on it. This might by a good backup to my Black Venom. Thanks for enlightening me on this bad boy!
The New Max thrill line is AMAZING!!!!!!!
Looks shiny, it is the lights on the video? Lane shine or box surface?
This is Box finish. Finished at 5k from motiv. I would call is a pearled solid.
A teammate of mine gave me a Cherry Vibe about three years ago because he didn't like what it did, mind you all he throws is Cherry Vibe(s) so it was the layout that killed him. I don't throw Hammer so I made him a deal. I will take it, plug your thumb, drill my thumb (span) and beat you with your own equipment. The next week during our league I beat him with his own equipment and then gave the ball to the local youth league director and donated it. The Vibes can be a niche piece for some bowlers and for others it never really pans out. Keep up the good work kids.
The Cherry Vibe was one of the good ones lol!!! Thanks for the support!!! Bowling is one of the most individualized sports!! Not all cores and covers match up to every one lol. Joey proves this.
I nicknamed this ball Superman! Because it bails me out of everything! Its twin is called the Minon. Man I love what you guys DO!
Thank You for the Support We appreciate you!!!!!
No no you did it all Wrong😂😂Joey was suppose to do all the intro & James you were suppose to throw it being you are the MOTIV X Man . Damn your phone was ringin and duh I looked down to figure out how my phone was ringin got the same ring on my cell😂😅😂😂 another fine video by the X Men great video . Serious I want an X in the pit 4X shirt so I can wear it to brag on my league 👍👍👍👍👍
We are placing an order in the next week or so for new bowli jerseys I can easily add you to the order if you want??
@@XInThePit yes please James thank you so much just let me know when and how much you are the best 👍👍👍
Good job
Thanks
This review pretty much lines up with my experience owning a Track Cypher. Too far outside, and it won't come back. You can miss a little inside and hold the line on the edge of the oil. Still, it is good for medium oil if you can get it to the friction at the right point.
I like the Cypher as a benchmark sym option. really good track ball!!
I have the radioactive bright yellow vibe I hit it with 2500 pads and thus ball is pretty decent for me was looking at the arctic but no need to now
OOB finish is a little brutal in our opinion.
ur release is awful, try to bend more and drop ur shoulder with front follow through
People wonder why our sport is in decline but so many of us are just pure assholes. We reap what we sow.
@@mutated__donkey5840 People dont give a shit about our sport, just us
@@syafiqkamal6718 and that’s a reason to be rude?
@syafiqkamal6718 As long as it is duplicatable... every bowler has a different style or release. Qwinten has just started his 2 handed journey if you think this is bad you should have seen his first one lol. The follow through and foot work is what Qwinten is working on the release will get even better the more he does it!!!
Hey Kool-aid 😂😂
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So I appreciate that you give your honest opinions, but I did want to make a couple things known that I got from watching this full review. 1. I'm a dual angle guy, so I had to do a little refresher on what the 4x4x5 2LS looks like, and after seeing what it's meant to do, I think you chose possibly the 2nd worst layout of the 6 recommended on the 2LS sheet that you could've possibly chosen for this ball. I think it would look much better with the 5x4x3.5 (layout 3) or even 4.5x3x4.5 (layout 4). I would love to see you plug and redrill it with either of those two benchmark layouts and see if you get a better look. 2. What I watched in this video wasn't necessarily poor ball reaction, but rather poorly executed shots and inconsistencies, especially in the middle of the lane. When you executed your shots, the ball looked really good! To give an example of this, at 5:32 you were standing on 25 and ended up sliding on 27. However, when you were standing on 10, you ended up sliding on 19, 7 more boards of drift than you did standing on 25 when you left the 3-4-6-7-10. For the shot around 11:12, you were standing on 40, but ended up sliding on 37. I thought perhaps your drift may go from left to right as you move across the lane, but that was debunked when you stood on 50 and slid on 52. There were several shots which you pulled, didn't have the angles quite right, and had very inconsistent drift from shot to shot. Please do not take this as me saying you're a bad bowler, assuming you're the Joey Marsh I found on bowl.com from the NY area, you're a 215 bowler, which is nothing to sneeze at, but you were certainly very inconsistent in this ball review. 3. I think you hit the nail on the head at one point when you said that this ball thrives when you either play far to the outside and fire it up the boards or move way in and let it chew through the oil. Obviously I don't know your house or house shot, but it looked like when you were playing the middle of the lane, you were getting into the cliff too much which is a recipe for 3-6-10's and washouts depending on which way you miss. This ball, from what I can tell, isn't designed to be a benchmark ball, but it feels like that's what the expectation was based on where you said you played with it the most. Final thoughts: 1. I would love to see you give this ball another chance with a different layout. I really think that 5x4x3.5 is the way to go with something like this. 2. I know this may be a silly question, but what surfaces did you try on it? I have noticed that balls with HK22 covers and compound OOB have a tendency to get very over/under after a few games, but that's usually cured by hitting it with a 3k pad for me. 3. I am getting one myself in about a week, so I'm interested to see if my results vary from yours. I plan on putting a 45x5x45 (5x3.75x3) on mine to get more of that benchmark look. I'll likely keep it with the OOB surface until I get a few games on it before making a decision on changing it. I don't normally do ball review videos, but I may do so for this one. Again, I appreciate the review, and I hope you don't take anything I said as negative towards you guys or the channel, but just a couple things I wanted to point out that I noticed. Keep up the great content!
Ok........ First Thank you for the comment and the break down. I will try to address all of the take away. 1- the lay out was chosen to replace Joey's Storm summit one of Joeys favorite symmetrical pieces summit also has a # 5 layout on it. 2- Joey is one of those unique bowlers that is right handed but uses his right foot to line up. I know its weird we worked on lining up with his left foot but it feels weird for him lol Yes same Joey from NY 215 average last year. 1b- With all of us trying to stay current with all of the products released, We normally don't have the time to redrill many of the releases. We try to review the bowling balls at the OOB cover to see what the manufacturer intended for the ball. 2b- not a silly question at all. We play with surface after the reviews. We try to review all the bowling balls at OOB specs to see how quick they lane shine or how long the cover takes to break in. That is why we try to put at least 50 games on each ball before we review it. 3b- I hope you have better success then what Joey had!!! If you do a ball review let me know im curious to see how you like it!! Every one we talked to liked it fresh OOB but once they got 5 games on it the had to adjust the cover and find something more forgiving or dependable. No Negativity at all!! I appreciate honest and well worded interactions!!! Thank you for the effort and time it took you for the breakdown! we appreciate it!! I hope my response helps clear up Joeys foot work and lay out choices. I will check your channel out as well!! Thank you once again!!
@@XInThePit Appreciate the response in return! I just got mine drilled up the other day. I've thrown a few shots with it, but haven't been able to use it at my home center. The center I got it drilled at has brand new panels as of about a week ago, so I haven't had a chance to throw it on something I'll be bowling on more often yet. I'll likely be doing a little review over the weekend and comparing it to a couple other balls I have in my bag.
@@XInThePit Hi there! I was so excited to do the review that I actually went out this afternoon. I certainly did have a different experience than Joey, but I can certainly see some of his points. Note that i did go with a weaker layout on mine than he did. I went with a 45x5x45 layout. I just uploaded it as of a few minutes ago, so it may still be processing, but please let me know what you think! Appreciate you guys!
Good to hear you got it drilled up! This ball for Joey out of box wasn't bad a little touchy but he got some descent scores with it. The change came about game 10 or so... The ball review you did is almost right out of box. All the other reviews that do them new out of box had similar results good bang for the buck. The Arctic vibe loves its angles and loves to play deep. Joey had the most success playing deep with the ball. I am curious of your opinion on the ball after 50 games or so...
It's been awhile since I've heard an A Brunswick steel uninsulated pinwheel
Yeah the old A machines. Hard to beat them for reliability.
All I had to do was crack the finish with a 3000 pad by hand and it woke this ball up. Reads much more consistently than it did OOB.
Yes!! and it smooths the reaction out to something almost usable or reliable. OOB finish is not friendly.
I have a 3.0, do you think this would be a good compliment to it?
yes they will play of each other well. The Effect is really good in my opinion.
Not trying to be rude. But is this even how this ball is made to be played? Isn't AV considered smooth/weak? Why try to power straight down? I've not seen anyone else try to throw it he did when he was missing in. Again, I'm just curious. As a new again bowler AV has been a blast for me.
We try to play the typical lines a league player might play. We try to show the area of the lane where you might play. He starts right and works his way left. This ball looks better playing 5th and 6th arrow.
I 100% appreciate that you say it like it is and dont pander to any sponsors. Keep up the great videos! 👍
Thank you for the support!!