West Coast Dealing School
West Coast Dealing School
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The one chip rule can apply to situations where multiple chips are bet 😂 - super confusing 🫤
What kind of chips are those and where can I buy them?
Our tournament chips are "Showdown" and our cash chips are "Poker knights". You can purchase them at "American Gaming Supplies" or "Poker Chip Lounge"
Thanks
please let me know more about "out of turn" and "short call"
loud and clear 🎉
Excellent. Very thorough.
If the color up is fine efficiently, it only takes a couple minutes and can be done with a very short pause in the tournament.
If it could be either a call or a raise, it’s a call.
It can never be one or the other. Just FYI. There is only one correct answer.
I dont like the "might consider this bet a raise" as its clearly a raise.
You might want to watch the video again and listen to the detail provided? It appears you may have overlooked a vital part of the explanation? Good luck!
Showoff;)
at our home game we just keep it it simple and use the double it or go home rule! ;-)
Ok Chris, obviously I need help betting.
Thank you ❤
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This video is confusing your saying 50% but taking 100% huh
Thanks for the clarification
Great video
Thank you. Time is money!
Way too many worda
Thank you for a clear explanation on this issue.
If there ıs only one player wıth 2 or 3, say 25 chıps, he shall get a 100 dırectly? Sınce no one has odd chıps and shall not race. If yes, what ıf he has 1 25 chıp, wıll ıt be taken away wıth no reımbursement (do note that ıt ıs not hıs only chıp, he was hıs stack of other chıps) Thank you kındly.
I'm training in poker rn and u cleared up my whole misconception of improper raise so thank you
I've never been more confused. sorry.
If a player clearly says “call” and doesn’t have enough smaller denominations to call can they get away with an oversize chip infringement?
Whichever action comes first is always binding. So, if a player declares "call" before moving any chips forward as a bet, then that action is binding. It would not matter now if he put 20 x 1k chips forward, it would only be a call. This video example is explaining the consequences of a player making his/her action without first making any verbal declaration... Therefore the chips speak and the combination of chips determine whether there is a call or raise based on the explanation in the video.
Does this only apply when the player doesn’t say that he wants to raise?
Yes - Verbal declarations are binding provided that the verbal declaration is the first action to occur. Whichever action comes first (Physical or verbal) will determine the action and if it be making a bet using only chips and no announcement, then the chips will determine the bet size based on the rules explained in the video.
@@WestCoastDealingSchool ... Thank You . I Do Understand The Video, But I Must Say When I Was Learning Poker I Was Taught To Announce You Intentions. Call, Raise ( Fold Is Obvious, ) ( Check Is Also Obvious ) ( All In Is Obvious )
9:20 If the raıse was by 600 (50%) why are you forcıng the player to make ıt 100% (1200)?
There is a rule in poker. If a bet 50% in size greater than the previous betting/raising increment is added to the call amount, then a player is forced to complete the raise. (Assuming no verbal declaration was made.)
@@WestCoastDealingSchool Thank you kındly. Take good care of yourself. Stay safe. Have a great week.
@@WestCoastDealingSchool Sır, try and gıve me an example here. Thank you kındly ın advance.
@@WestCoastDealingSchool Unless here you meant "ıs NOT 50% greater" Sınce you saıd that the player wıll be forced to complete the raıse-ıf the raıse was 50% hıgher than the bet, then he does not need to complete ıt.
or how about you just directly exchange the chips and then do a chip race for the remaining
Because this is the full procedure as used by the WSOP (and many other major events and casinos). There are, of course, abbreviated and short cut versions of this procedure. But this video has been produced to show the complete method.
Hi. I have a problem when play only 2person. How to deal and who act 1st in each round
When only two players wish to compete: The player on the dealer button is the small blind, the other player is the BB. The dealer will deal to the Big Blind first and the small blind receives the last card. On the first betting round, the player in the small blind (button) will act first. If there is no raise, then the BB will have that option. Once the first betting round is complete, the action begins with the BB and the button gets last action just like in a multi-player game. I hope this clears up any confusion. Chris.
@@christidmarsh8945 thanks u so much. I've just found that it's call "head's up".
Where can I find the video where there is more on string bets?
This is a good video. 👍
I live in a state where poker is not legal in a brick and mortar card room. We play free roll poker in our local brewpub and was asked to be a volunteer dealer. This video clears up some confusion both I and others had on the origin of the oversize chip and the first raise amount. Thank you.
You are welcome!
I much prefer this method kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6l4srmEhJiuhso.html
I understand the min raise but is it still the same when it comes to the player after the big blind? Pre flop Let's say SB is 10, BB is 25, is the min raise for the player after the BB (utg) 50 or is it 40?
Base on the rules in the video, the difference between the BB and SM is 15, so I guess UTG should first call the BB (25) and then add in at least the increment (15), making it 40. I'm not sure if that's correct, pls correct me if I'm wrong.
@@tamvu9909 it actually is 50. First bet after BB is always double. Then min raise apply
the raise is always double the amonut of previous bet or more so if it is 25 it means next raise will be 50+
I’m so confused why did he raise 1200 to 2400 when that’s 100% and not just 50%
I think it means basically just throw out chips roughly what you need without counting, and the dealer will give back excess chips to call if it’s under 50% extra or tell you a value you need to raise if it’s over 50% with raise value being equal to the last raise.
If i may ask what are those poker chips?
Those are claysmith showdown poker chips. Cheap metal slug plastic chips. They do look nice but aren't that great of a chip.
I'm a little confused -- at 19:30 I counted along up to 3500. The remaining green chips come out for 3600, 3700, 3800, and one final green chip is called 3900. Then, the narration states "4000" but two black chips are placed, then a final yellow 1000 and it's called 5000 total. However, there's actually 5025 in chips on the table, which is exchanged for the single 5000 chip. Did the captain lose 25 in this transaction? If the odd greens are rounded up, shouldn't only 1 black have been collected?
he answered it before, when he talks about odd greens. as it is needed a stack of four to fill the 100, if the stack isn't complete, we "round up" the stack if there is more than 1 on the odd stack. Ex: odd stack with 3 or 2 25chips = 100 | odd stack with 1 25chip = 0 you only round up to 100 if the odd stack has 2 or more, so the captain will "lose" the 25.
@@erickrox What incentive is there to be captain, then? The captain's stack is used to color up other players' stacks, which could leave the captain in a position to lose chips for their benefit?
@@keithr- there is no incentive, although he doesn’t lose their chips for The benefit, he trades them, and The 25chip that is loose is lost, but fi he has 2 or more, he gains ONE 100 chip
Does the 50% to be a Raise Rule apply to cash games as well assuming the player has enough chips does he have to complete the raise if his initial raise was at least 50%?
House Rules apply got it!
All rules in poker should be applied across both Tournament and Cash platforms. However, in cash games we will be flexible with some of the rules. In cash the only players affected are those sitting at any given table at the time, their actions do not affect other tables like they might in Tournament play. So yes the 50% (of the current increment) additional chips rule still applies to the cash arena. But we cannot force a player to complete the raise if they argue that they didn't intend to make the raise. But the chips they have already wagered would remain in the pot should the player choose to fold the hand.
@@WestCoastDealingSchool Thank you for your informative answer! For limit hold'em let's say your dealing 3/6 limit on the flop player A bets $3, player B goes all in for $4 and player C wants to raise..would it be to $6 because you ignore player B's all in because its less than 50%?
@@brianlee1417 Yes, with and initial bet of $3 ( on a $3 betting round) if the following player moves all-in for $4, the following player may raise, but only by completing the bet to "2 full bets" = $6. In limit poker, if an all in bet includes additional chips beyond the call amount which are less in value than 50% more; then the bet is still only considered one bet, and therefore a raise will complete the bet to two full bets. If, however an "all-in" bet has additional chips above the call amount equal to 50% or more (for example player two is all-in for $5); then this is already considered 2 bets (allbeit for less than what it should be - permitted only because the player is all-in) So the following player can call the "2 bets" of $5 and then raise by adding one full bet in addition. Therefore the "3 bets" raise amount will be $8.
This is so helpful!
Holy crap, cant believe I’ve been playing poker wrong for so long
If a player is committed to making the minimum raise and he/she doesn’t have enough for a full minimum raise, are they forced to go all in?
yes
I must be missing something- the video is very well done and consistent within itself, but I am so lost about what the returning the chips and verbal communication would en tale. Ill try watching again- I appreciate such educational material on youtube. :)
When faced with a bet, the next player puts too many chip forward to call the best he faces, but the additional chips are not at least 50% more than the current raise increment, then the additional chips will be pushed back to the player by the dealer and the dealer will simply announce, "CALL"
@@WestCoastDealingSchool Ahhh makes more sense!
I will get to reply - I’m currently travelling back from London.
Just started learning this with my kids 11 and 15. When she is last to bet in a round, my 11 year old will raise.....can she? What needs to happen then in the next round? Also, if betting after the river, the first player to act bets and the only other player wants to raise, can they? And what must the other player then do?
In all betting rounds, a player who is yet to act always has the option to raise (providing they have sufficient chips). There is a minimum amount they must raise by and this is set by the “raise increment”. Pre-Flop, the raise increment is set initially by the value of the Big Blind or, if someone during that round has already raised, then the increment may have been increased. This would be determined by the new bet minus the previous bet. If this gives a greater value than the BB then this will be the new raising increment. For example: if the BB was 200, then the first player to raise must raise to a minimum of 400. That would be a call of the BB and adding the increment value to this 200+200=400. However, if the BB was 200 and the next player made a bet of 500. The increment has now been increased to 300. (500-200=300) what this means is that the next player to raise must at least make the bet 800. That’s a call of the 500 plus the new increment of 300 making a total of 800 (the increment is still at 300 at this point). So yes, your player can always raise if they have yet to act, but they are restricted to the minimum they must add to make a legal raise. Depending on the betting structure you are playing with, there will also be restriction on the maximum a player might raise. (In No-Limit Hold’em, however, there is no restriction to the maximum - that is simply restricted by how many chips a player may have on the table). In all betting rounds after the flop; the first bet will set the raise increment. It should be at least equal to that of the Big blind, but it may be more. It also might be less if a player is all-in for less than a BB. However, the raise increment should always be at least the value of the BB if the first player to act makes a bet “all-in” less than the BB value.
Nice videos, subscribed. In your opinion, what is the reason for tapping the table before putting out the next card? Does it serve as a warning that the next card is coming out in case a player mistakenly hasn’t acted yet?
Yes, exactly that! Tapping the table before moving to the next phase of the game is a timing thing. It is to allow players the opportunity to make the dealer aware that we may have missed a players action etc. It is an important part of the procedures and should not be dismissed. Better to take a second to be sure the action is complete than to have the hassle of dealing with a premature flop, turn or river - for example.
Thank you Chris! Watching this out in Texas. -Spence
Help! Seat 1 bets $500. Seat 2 raises to $1,000. Seat 3 calls $1,000. Seat 4 calls $1,000. What is the minimum raise for Seat 5?
The first bet on the felt sets the raise increment (whether it be the BB or the first bet made after the flop, for example...) The next player to act needs to call the bet they face (1000, for seat 5 in this case) to stay in the game; but if they wish to raise the minimum they must add a raising increment on top of the 1000. The increment at this point is 500, set by the first bet made; So call 1000 + 500 = 1500. Remember that if the first player who made it 1000 actually made it 1100, then the raise increment would have changed to 600 (new bet minus previous bet equals the new raise increment, provided this number is greater than the original raise increment of 500) 1100 - 500 = 600 So a minimum raise now would be: Call the 1100 + 600 = 1700 ( it is not twice the bet you face, like many people think! So it is not 2200! The player could make it 2200, but this would set a new raise increment at 1100)
I hope to play good
Man, I have to use this is a game to mess with the beginner's and throw them off
Decent vid!
"Ultimately by the time, the players brake arrives you would have all the chips sold to the dealer when is color up time." What that means, i didnt understood that as well ?I mean how i know what is time when i acctualy starting to color up chips? Are the player breaks usually in compliance with this Color up procedure and does it have any time rule or it is starts when the smallest chip is no longer useful as a betting tool?I mean Hand after 150/300 where we dont use 50chip more ,..is it the time when we start collecting 50 to table captian?