History's Heartbeat
History's Heartbeat
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Have you ever felt as if History was just a bunch of old dead guys doing stuff that had no effect on the world today? Have you ever had a history teacher who bores you to tears by talking in a monotone voice about nothing but "Acts," and "taxes?" Looking for historical knowledge that's a little more alive? History's Heartbeat is the channel for you, striking to the core of little-known historical events, giving them a personable, lively touch.
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I came to goon, to Mussolini.
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thanks to france and frenc to exist
The book, "MUSSOLINI'S WAR IN THE EAST 1941-1943" covers the Italian war effort in Ukraine and Russia. General Messe led the Italian Expeditionary Corps in Russia, during 1941-1942. The Italians fought quite well under Messe, and his successor, General Gariboldi (commander of Italian 8th Army). Many units were proficient, elite formations, such as the Blackshirts, the cavalry regiments, the Alpine divisions, and the semi-motorized infantry. The Italians also sent a flotilla of mini-submarines and motor torpedo boats that operated effectively in the Black Sea.
My father (class 1920) was a partisan commander in northern Italy from September 1943 till the April 1945. They fought with bravery the nazi fascist forces in a very bloody civil war. Unlike Germany, in Italy many soldiers were against Mussolini and his desire for conquest
Italy's small arms were pretty good and competitive with most of its WW2 opponents (Except the US), however it's biggest let down and most important small arm was its LMG the Breda Model 30.
the music 🥲👹👹
Dio porco how this is a honest look ?
Italians had built good fighter planes and battleships. Effective military machines.
Culture. Dramatic cultural differences are the bedrock reason behind all the differences between the Germans and Italians as fighters.
Doctrines also screwed over France in the First World War. They were caught up with taking more land, as they had done in the Napoleon War. A country not modernizing is a country that is dooming itself. Weapon wise or mindset wise.
Why have you only made one video?
This is an engaging, if succinct, look at Fascist Italy in WWII. Mussolini was an extremely effective politician and writer; we must remember that Hitler emulated him in nearly every aspect. However, he wasn't the most efficacious general. His personal credo of, "Mussolini is never wrong," says it all. General Armellini was accurate; Mussolini had little idea of the adversities or logistics of military campaigns. You stated, "The combined arms doctrine used to such devastating effect by the Germans could not have been pulled off by (the Italians.)" Italian military doctrine, developed without German intervention, was almost identical to that of Nazi Germany. My grandfather was an early member of the Italian Blackshirts; MVSN, (Camicie Nere, CCNN). Among others, he fought in the Ethiopian and Greek campaigns, was wounded, and won several decorations some awarded by Mussolini himself. Until his death, he was a genuine and passionate Fascist; many an evening was spent listening to his memories of the war and how Italy could have won.
The Italians were not eager to fight for Mussolini much less die for him. As soon as the casualties mounted they would retreat or surrender. And who could blame them. Hitler's cause was not their cause.
I love, that you actually used ww2 italian music in the video
Greece and Metàxas were Italy's allies ffsakes, and Mussolini still attacked them - got his teeth bashed in and - WORST THING OF ALL - it meant the Germans had to postpone "Barbarossa" by at least a couple of months to secure the Balkans, which infuriated Hitler so much he went speechless for a couple of days. That was possibly the most important strategic blunder of the War by the Axis powers. Had they started "Barbarossa" in May, they quite probably wold have taken both Moscow and st. Petersburg.
Bro your content is good but the music is so annoying, I am Italian and hearing two languages I can fully understand at once makes it so hard to follow, besides you shouldn't be playing fascist songs PS: I'm sorry I can't genuinely watch it even if I try, the music is an earrape.
This country is the weakest modern army have ever known. I don’t think they ever won war since the Roman days.😂
I just watched the scarlet and the black in 1943 Rome. Highly recommend
an honest assessment of Italy's forces can be had from books by Brian K. Sullivan, Ian Walker and Walter Zapotoczny
wow this vid sucked
A very informative and exceptional book relating to Italian wars between 1935-1943 is: “Regio Esercito: The Italian Royal Army in Mussolini’s Wars 1935-1943” by Patrick Cloutier.
Without America ww2 is in the hand of German
When a country Lost more than 300.000 thousand men fighting along the Germans, and saying that was a minor role is a huge lack of respect for those hundreds of thousand of men who fought and died only for the Vanity of a Delusional Man like Mussolini. As a matter of fact the German Army without the huge Italian Sacrifice at Stalingrad would probably had surrender much earlier. In Africa the Italians were more a waste of space than a proper fighting force capable of helping the Germans the way Rommel so much needed. But overall the Historians are wrong by constantly Undermine the Role of the Italians in WW2. They fought bravely with what they had,wich was few and very bad equipment,but nevertheless without them Army Group South from 1941/1943 most likely wouldn't have been so Successfull, specialy on the first stages of Operation Blau,and by holding for so long at Stalingrad. The same can be said abaut the Romanian Army,who sacrifice an Entire Army also in Stalingrad. The ammount of casualties suffered by the Italians and Romanians on the Eastern Front were Appalling.
The Italian navy didn't do that badly and held their own against the British.
The biggest mistake, militarily speaking, committed by Italy post-WW1, was not restructuring the leadership with WW1 veterans. This is part of why Germany was so effective I think, many of their best generals and really the foundation of the whole Nazi movement was the veterans of WW1 who had learned to adapt in the trenches.
Italy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
uk and france=🤡
Unfortunately this video was disapointing and the interpretations on wwii events remain as lame as always, and as biased as always, with weak social economic development of the study
Did the Italian soldiers have courage? Yes! For one thing, Rommel's Africa Corps could not have survived without them. For Reference: Research the Italian Folgore Division in the Africa Corps. Also two books: "Few Returned, Twenty-Eight Days on the Russian Front, Winter 1942-1943," by Eugenio Corti and "Last Soldiers of the King, Wartime Italy 1943," also by Eugenio Corti. After you read his books, you will never think of the Italians as cowards again.
Interesting, but this video doesn't recognise one fundamental aspect, which all Italians even today recognise and which is reflected in Italian politics today. The conflict which lead to WW2 for Italy was a civil war right from the Fascist takeover in the 1920's. A majority of Italians didn't want to fight for Mussolini. When there was an alternative motive to fight (espirit de corps with Messe in Tunisia, the Alpini of the AMIR in Russia and (against the Germans) the Acqui Division in Cefalonia), they were willing to fight against terrible odds. This is lost in the British/US idea of WW2 as 'the good war' but (unfortunately) this civil strife has not ended even today
The principal problem we weren't ready ,and we did the same 2 campaigns in Etiopia and Spain ,so when we started WW 2 we had less resources .Another problem we didn't have radar in the Royal Navy and bad coordination with the Regia Aeronautica
The Italians sucked. They had no business being in that war. Mussolini was a moron. He should have pulled a Franco and stayed out of it.
America 🤡 got their behind handed to them in Vietnam 😂
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@@TheLoyalOfficer America 🤡 got their behind handed to them in Vietnam 😂
@@NoName-hg6cc You need to check your meds, or take them... This vid is about Italy, not Vietnam.
@@TheLoyalOfficer And? America did the same in Vietnam but worse, having materials superiority. You should accept it
The main mistake was pursuing the quantitative superiority when the Country didn't have the resources to do so. I believe that a relatively small but properly trained and equipped army, with a clear strategy could, with the support of the other armed force take control of the Mediterranean theater. Unfortunately the people who was supposed to prepare such a strategy were Badoglio and Cavagnari who, beside having others priorities, didn't possess the necessary skill to do so.
My God. Almost literally everything you said is wrong. From the major info like the dates of the wars to the minor stuff like the goddamn number of bullets in the carcano. I can't make a comment long enough to correct all your garbage video. After 4 minutes it just began painful to watch.
Italian culture:"Hey Joe, you wanna meet my sister?''
Italy had culture when your ancestors were still on trees 😂
Three comments: the Mannlicher-Carcano 1891 holds six instead five rounds and the map of Italy in the beginning of the video doesn't include the Istrian peninsula. The latter became part of Italy after World War I and they lost it again after World War II. Thirdly, the main reason why Mussolini came to power in 1922 because of "Bienno Rosso" (Two Red Years) between 1919 and 1920. A series of social and political unrest in the aftermath of World War I. Italy's ruling classes became afraid of a socialist takeover and used the fascists to counter the thread. The movie Novecento (1976) gives a inside - although it is fiction - how the rural society of Nothern Italy functioned between 1900 and 1945. A large part of the movie pays attention to the fascists. Besides that: great content and thanks very much! Poor Italian men who were draft into the army. An army led by incompent men and a chronically lack of basic materials and supplies.
Carcanos hold 6 rounds not 5
Hell of a look at Italy's situation; would love to see more from you!
Music was too loud
Well done- Great video editing on this underrated topic .
You need to upload more vids like this
Nice video!!
Rommel once said "the German stormtroopers shocked the world, the Italian soldier shocked the stormtroopers"
È una stronzata...mai detto!
8:22 another thing to note is that Italy was a monarchy unlike Germany, and as you said the King was the head of army, air force and navy. The german soldiers made an oath to Hitler, if he says to fight till the end they do it, italian soldiers made an oath to the King instead, if he says to stop fighting they stop fighting regardless wether Mussolini agrees or not. Italy being a monarchy prevented Mussolini from getting the absolute power Hitler had, he was head of the government but not head of state, the army was loyal to the King and the senate was full of antifascist senators who often prevented fascist laws to pass (the members of the chamber of deputies are elected, since the fascist party was the only legal party they were all fascist, the senators were nominated by the King instead, and he could nominate everyone a senator regardless political faith) This is exactly what led to the fall of the regime, after the allies landed in Sicily the grand council of fascism voted in favour of dismissing the ministry of war and giving the leadership of the army back to the King, this led to Mussolini realizing that the party wasn't trusting him anymore which made him resign, the King then appointed Badoglio as new prime minister who then surrendered to the allies a month and a half later
Exactly, which is why Anglos make a mistake when they refer to Mussolini as a dictator.
At Bardia in the western desert, 16,000 Australia troops attacked 45,000 well entrenched Italian troops and including KIA WIA and captured the Italian casualties amounted to 42,000 while the Australian casualites , including wounded or MIA amounted to less than 450, the Italians had stong defensive positions, They had forty-one Breda Model 35 20 mm antiaircraft guns; eighty-five 47 mm antitank guns; twenty-six Solothurn S-18/1000 anti-tank rifles; forty-one Cannone da 65/17 modello 13 65 mm infantry support guns; a hundred and forty-seven Cannone da 75/32 modello 37 75 mm and 77 mm field guns; seventy-six Skoda 100 mm Model 1916 and Canon de 105 mle 1913 Schneider 105 mm guns; and twenty-seven 120 mm and Obice da 149/12 modello 14 149 mm medium howitzers.[ They also had a moile reserve of 128 tanks/ tankettes, so they had enough firepower and men to stop 16,000 infrantry having to take an 18 mile defensive line, but they could not.
8TH Bersaglieri Regiment & Regia Aeronautica smash Australian 9th Division defending Benghazi & Mechili It was also the units of the Ariete, Trieste, Bologna, Brescia, Pavia and Trento Divisions that actually manned the siege lines around Tobruk, capturing 14 strongpoints on 1 May and 16 May along with 500 Australians in the deadly flamethrower attacks that seriously unnerved the 14,000-strong Australian garrison, forcing General Leslie Morshead to accept defeat and have the Australian 9th Division (suffering from PTSD, STD, self-inflicted wounds, Insomnia, Depression, alcoholism, etc.) shipped out early (starting August) in 1941 and replaced with the Polish Carpathian Brigade.
During Operations Brevity and Battleaxe in the North African summer of 1941, Italian soldiers under the command of fine Italian officers (E.g. Colonel Ugo Montemurro and Major Leopoldo Pardi) stood and fought tanks with anti-tank guns, giving and taking losses and severely blunting the British armoured offensives aimed at lifting the Siege of Tobruk. It was also the Ariete who defeated the British 7th "Desert Rats" Armoured Division at Bir el Gub on 19 November, knocking out 40 Crusader tanks outside Tobruk, derailing Operation Crusader in the process. The Ariete also with the help of Bersaglieri motorcycle troops , overran the Buffs Regiment on 15 December, capturing 1,000 Elite British soldiers.
Ariete Division overruns The Buffs Regiment (1,000 Brit POWs) British defeat captured on film And it was the Ariete who ploughed through the British-officered 3rd Indian Brigade, during Operation Venezia on 27 May 1942, capturing 1,000 defenders. With Rommel's panzer divisions completely surrounded and out of fuel and water at the very start of the Axis offensive, the Trieste (braving air and artillery strikes) came to their rescue, thus saving an incompetent Rommel from surrender and Germany from an embarrassing early exit in the North African Campaign.
The capture of the Mersa Matruh fortress in late June 1942 is often credited to the German 90th Light Division but the real damage was in fact done by the conscript gunners of the Italian Brescia and Trento, who stuck to their guns despite the fierce British air attacks, and the Littorio Armoured Division who along with the Bersaglieri Corps overran 1,000 Gurkhas regrouping outside the British fortress of Mersa Matruh before surrounding and penetrating the defences, capturing another 6,500 Allied soldiers at bayonet point. The Bersaglieri soon afterwards shepherded into captivity another 1,000 demoralized New Zealanders who had been abandoned by their officers.
Your narrative is negligible and wrong. At Bardia before that the Australian AND BRITISH Infantry started the attack on the breach (done by British bombardments) the Italians was under a costant Air and naval bombardment from British for days. Is this kind of fake narrative that show your bias troughout facts that you barely know. As if 45.000 Italians was a bunch of incompetents and 16.000 Australians the worlds Superheroes, well it was not the case. Italians suffered at first a mass bonbing by the Britsh as todays "shock and doe" US tactic will be, then only at the end the Infantry took their foots on the soil. Simply Italians even if in major numbers didn't had any chance vs a technologically and way better equipped, talking about heavy weapons, vs the British-Australian forces.
Some of the equipment the Italians had was pretty good, they made LOTS of new stuff too, planes, ships and innovative weapons but the soldiers DID NO believe in the war and performed accordingly.
MorePROPAGANDA/BS...Italy conquered 5 countries, was awarded the territory they won in France, and won the Spanish civil war vs. the Communist. Aside from Russia and Germany no other European country performed better, or stated another way, Italy was the 3rd best performing European country of the war. An Empire larger than Germany's.
12th Bersaglieri Regiment destroys 70 British tanks!!! 2nd Alamein During the Battle of Tebourba in December, the 10th Bersaglieri Regiment and a company of Italian Marines from the San Marco Regiment company―supported by Semovente tank destroyers from 557th Grupo Asalto of the Superga Division―captured 300 British and American “Red Berets” from Lieutenant-Colonel John Frost's 2nd (British) Parachute Battalion and Colonel Edson Raff''s 2nd (US) Paratroop Battalion.
10th Bersaglieri Regiment defeats US & British Paras (Defeat of British & American Paratroopers captured on film) Italian troops were the main participants in the Tunisian Campaign and there were a number of experienced Bersaglieri battalions amongst the Afrika Korps assault formations during the Battle of Kasserine Pass. The 5th and 7th Bersaglieri Regiments were literally the Axis spearhead and along with the Centuaro Armoured Division obtained Rommel's last victory in driving back the US infantry (under Colonel Anderson Moore) and tanks (under Colonel Louis Hightower) along the mountain pass and Highway 13, with the Italians capturing 2,450 American soldiers in this action.
@@spaniardsrmoors6817 Absolutge total TRIPE. By all means keep wandering in the abyss of complete ignorance but once in a while pick a hgistory book, check out official records and documents that are in the public domain and do some basic research. Your comments, in light of italian success , or lack there of is just stupid.
@@spaniardsrmoors6817 The Tunisian campaign resulted in 360,000 German/ Italian casualties V 76,000 for the Allies, can't see how you can portray this as anything other than a dam good thrashing.
The German economy was pretty well fucked up but they got their act together, if Italy could not get it's act together they are the only one to be blamed and ALL stats bear out the incompetence of Italians in an theater of the war in which they had OVERwhlming preponderance of firearma and men but could not match it with either the British or The Americans, they were mediocre against poorly armed desert tirbesmen too.
BS...Italians had been fighting/conquering nonstop since 1915 up to start of WW II. Germans spent 20 years rearming. Germans BACKSTABBED Italy breaking the Pact of Steel in Sept. '39 just 4 months after signing stipulating Italy be given 3 years to prepare because they were depleted in arms, troops, munitions. Germans NEVER NOTIFIED Mussolini they were invading Poland and dragged an unprepared Italy into WW.
"Not only should Tunisia have exploded the myth of Hitler's military acumen, it should have discredited the idea that Germans fought better than the Italians, since Messe's 1st Italian Army held out longer than Arnim's 5th German Army and the DAK, even both groups had about six divisions and faced roughly equal Anglo-American forces. Indeed, Hermann Goring division was the first to be scattered on 7 May, DAK the next to break and surrender on 9 May, with the Italian Spezia division closing the gap created by the German collapse and watching still combat-efficient German units march off into captivity on 11 May. Whether it is significant that the German 90th Light division was the first to collapse in Messe's 'Italian' Army, there is no doubt that the Italians fought well and held out longest in Tunisia." (The Second World War: The German War 1939-1942, Jeremy Black, Page 265, Ashgate, 2007)”
Battle of Mersa Matruh Italians capture 10,000 Brits, Gurkhas & Kiwis British defeat captured on film Assuming that the Italians were poor soldiers and badly led was often a bad mistake, which the 9th Australian Division, the famous Rats of Tobruk, learned to its dismay during the First Battle of El Alamein. A night attack against the Trento Division dug in on Ruin Ridge in late July 1942, after some initial success, was halted, with the 2nd/28th Battalion (under Major Lew McCarter) completely overrun and forced to surrender the next day to an armoured car squadron and Bersaglieri from the Trieste Division.
With the Australians defeated, General Claude Auchinleck had no option but to order an end to further offensive operations in favor of strengthening the Allied defense lines to be able to meet any future Axis counter-offensives.
You lost to a bird. Bitch please...🤣
It's a common misconception that the German economy was stronger under Nazism. This is how effective Nazi propaganda still is today. Economic reallocation to loud and flashy projects put on a strong outward appearance but the actual day-to-day economic indicators show a dive in the real economy, and a shift to military production, which requires a war to be maintained. It's not a sustainable economic model and pulls resources away from other industries like consumer products, medicine, agriculture, and the like.
Let's be clear about this alliance. Italy nearly went to war with Germany when Hitler first proposed the take over of Austria. Germany sent arms to Ethiopia when Italy was invading them. Germany was also aidding the Chinese against the Japanese. There are pictures of Chinese soldiers with German style helmets. Lastly the Germans talked about the "German" master race. How do you think the Italians snd Japanese thought about that? The only reason they got together is all three were isolated by the other European countries & US.
excuses, the approach should have been total war, investigations and the use of every piece of metal and massive construction of factories to have a decent and well-trained army and executions for the cowards, decimating as the Romans did, they were a shame for Rome and should not consider themselves Romans, to this day they make money from Roman memories and they only showed that they are garbage in the first and second world wars, the real Romans died when Rome fell
Well, this is only partially true: the main reason for which Italy drifted towards isolation was because of Mussolini's choices.
@@matteomaffei5519 true. But the worst consequences of that alliance was that the italian fascists were forced to adopt the nazis nutty racial policies.
'Honest look???????????" Nothing but backhanded digs. Nothing at all honest about this just another anti-Italian WW II PROPAGANDA-MEMES NONSENSE. Just listen to what he states right after asking "were Italians cowards?" Nothing about Italy's heroic achievements, brave fighting, never surrendering until completely devoid of food, water, munitions and completely outnumbered with no hope of winning. Another nonsense video that Italy was completely reliant on Germany and did nothing to aid the Axis when in fact without Italy, Germany would have lost much earlier or if Italy had joined the Allies, Germany knew they had no chance with a belligerent dangerous Italy on it's southern flank.