I think it would have been more impactful if jasper had died. Shattering is supposed to be this insanely horrible thing that ends a Gem forever. But jasper just comes back. If she had died it would have made a much greater impact on steven’s mental health and in my opinion helped convey the idea that his trauma is just getting worse and worse better.
@taoneeah23 сағат бұрын
the whole point of the flirting thing between marshall and fionna is that he’s messing with her, he doesn’t genuinely see her as a romantic candidate. also the episode where prince gumball goes on a date with her, i was always under the impression that it was the ice queen the whole time tricking fionna, taking advantage of her unreciprocated crush to lure her into a trap.
@MynicknameisVioletКүн бұрын
I would love to see a more adult contination of this show. Like what Gravity Falls is doing now
@MynicknameisVioletКүн бұрын
I will always love Steven Universe and Steven universe future ❤
@ecogreen123Күн бұрын
all i can really add is him forgetting the past, it thematically makes sense that fin wouldn't remember a world fully consumed by Golb, because if he did then the world would still live and on still exist which simply goes against Golbs nature.
@Remiwi-bp6nwКүн бұрын
my guy i love your videos but this thumbnail is not it
@AmpleSamuelКүн бұрын
Yeah can’t argue with you there lmao
@reddeer1758Күн бұрын
God, it's been over a decade since I last watched Teen Titans. I remember being totally taken in by the series final and being really disappointed when I read people's opinions online about it. For me, even action orientated shows like DBZ were always about the character development, so I don't think the lack of action in the last episode phased me at all as a kid. However the bittersweet ending with Terra always made me think 'what if' and caused me to compare her to Raven and how she was treated by the Titans. I think as a kid I didn't quite see the 'choices' that you and the show spoke of, so I always had some anger towards how the Titans treated her. I really want to rewatch it now to see how my opinion might have changed since then... Also, yes please. I'd love a video about Raven. :)
@user-kp9nk9qp8yКүн бұрын
People who hated future so far the saddest people ever, It's all focus on Steven rather than everyone claims of lore, gems etc. It's about STEVEN having a FUTURE and that's it.
@casualfanatic4217Күн бұрын
Something I didn’t notice until my recent rewatch, Beast Boy never asked “Terra” her name. She’s constantly telling BB that’s not who she is but he continues to call her that. This adds to the theme of the episode, BB is so focused on Terra from the past he doesn’t properly see the girl who’s in front of him now. 18 years later and I’m still finding layers in this episode
@shard6402 күн бұрын
i think him continuing to tell cactus steven his issues once he knows it repeats shows him wanting help but not being able to let himself admit it and ask for it
@Kadukunahaluu2 күн бұрын
I read the thumbnail as "bald little boy" 💀
@angelinaa_xoxo2 күн бұрын
amazing video! loved it💜
@janeangel70492 күн бұрын
I like your analysis. I’m into a lot of Weird Stories and Rock Bottom reminds me of two I recently read: Robert Aickman’s “The Waiting Room” and Shirley Jackson’s “The Bus”. Some other literary nerd help me verify this.
@poolturtle57722 күн бұрын
Random recommendations you never disappoint! Anyways, I generally like the video and the interpretation of the themes and such of the video. One thing I will say, unrelated to that, is I think the reason Finn sees Golb has to do with Finn being one of the Comets, and that sort of loose connection to Golb and the Lich through that. Basically just advanced foreshadowing.
@namemcnameface14643 күн бұрын
Fin much like many young men hides his feelings, ofcourse he would go from melancholy to blind joy and candy adventures then right back to emotionally suppressed. It added a relatable growth and degradation characteristic to him, it made his feelings blind and real like they so often are for us all
@NwonuChifrada3 күн бұрын
I love teen Titans
@neoanimefreak_76063 күн бұрын
This just might be my favorite episode of Samurai Jack. Everything about the episode is just.. incredible. How they handle the haunted house, the demon, the tone shift in color palette and such.
@Azestii3 күн бұрын
53:00 what show is he talking about here thoooo?
@bzknorthstar3 күн бұрын
Fionna & Cake eats.
@juanarocha86294 күн бұрын
This guy was the epitome of evil when i was a kid
@ThunderBlurPony4 күн бұрын
I'd say only Ice King's stories are canon
@wayne_._4 күн бұрын
35:06 finally... Found recognition, it's my favorite track in the whole movie 😭
@stenotype5 күн бұрын
I'm still here is my favorite song of SU
@rinakumakage70775 күн бұрын
Alright, why am I simping for Finn's teenage pillow son?
@nathanblackburn11935 күн бұрын
I mean I'd argue that every depiction of Fionna and Cake outside of the mini series (aside from maybe the tapes in "Fionna and Cake and Fionna") is not an accurate view of the characters, they're all innately altered by the biases and perspectives of the ones telling the stories
@tylerfoster28145 күн бұрын
When I was a boy, I wanted closure and a sense of catharsis for this show I loved. As a middle-aged man, I've come to appreciate the finale depicting the constant struggle representative of a hero team. Catharsis is never achieved, or else the comic would end, and I like to think about the Titans continuing in their struggle for peace beyond the 5 arcs we see. As for Terra in the finale, while young me would have loved for her to return to the team and make goo-goo eyes with Beast Boy. Now, I'm just happy that she lived. Maybe not with the life she had, as Terra, as a super, but at all, and finally free of the curse of great power. She is really the only character to have that catharsis all the Titans strive toward, despite Garfield's efforts.
@genowindbird37216 күн бұрын
8:12 I think it’s more at that point of the series Marcy was “flirty” with Finn but never actually liked Finn it was like they were two friends and while she played flirty with Finn she always made it clear they were never gonna be together and everything romantic about them was surface level … I think that kinda reflects the Marshall and Fiona in the story while they were super flirty both of them didn’t actually want too be together Marshall was just being flirty thinking that Fiona liked him (which Finn kinda liked Marcy for a bit but never seriously) and Fiona being like yeah ur cool and I get that we flirt but I don’t like u and I can tell ur just messing around (which might’ve been something that really happened in the real world with Finn and Jake)
@notcha80806 күн бұрын
the weirdness of fionna's age is something i blame on the writers. i've heard pb and marceline were originally supposed to fight over finn to be his love interest, age gap and all
@Hello-jm3qq3 күн бұрын
Wait oh my god really??? With the characters personalities of what they became I could never picture that 😭😭😭
@funnysillyclown6 күн бұрын
I literally don’t even watch adventure time but this was a very captivating theory. Liked it a lot!
@neodica59676 күн бұрын
As another story where Marcy narrativizes her own experiences more overtly, "Ketchup" might be a fun episode to compare with this one. 6:54 I always assumed Fionna was Finn's age. In terms of her physical design, I thought it was just reflective of how girls generally start to develop earlier than boys. As for the way she gets romantically paired with Gumball and Marshall, it's weird but it sort of (?) gets addressed within the episodes. In the 1st Fionna and Cake episode, Fionna gets swept up in her dream of dating Gumball, but the extremely questionable scenario where she gets locked in his bedroom shows why dating your much older guy friend isn't actually a good thing. Thankfully they defer away from that scary situation in favor of Gumball being Ice Queen in disguise, but even when the real Gumball asks her out, it's mostly just set up for the story to deteriorate into Ice King worship. Either way, the story ultimately rejects Gumball as a viable love interest and, if anything, Ice King's attraction to Fionna is arguably more questionable (though in fairness, every princess he's attracted to is also much younger than him). As for "Bad Little Boy", I feel like the romantic angle of Fionna and Marshall's relationship is significantly toned down compared to her relationship with Gumball. It doesn't really seem like she has a crush on him, but even if she does, Fionna acknowledges that his flirting is mostly done as a joke and it's understood that he doesn't have feelings for her. It's similar to Finn and Marcy's dynamic from "Go With Me" where they do a bunch of stuff that could be read as having romantic undertones (even before Finn tries to ask her out), but to them it's purely platonic. So even if we don't account for the princesses asking Marcy to inject romance into the story, I feel like Marcy is just drawing on real experiences she's had with Finn and tweaking them for the sake of entertainment, especially since the ending mixes aspects of their encounters from "Evicted!" and "Henchman".
@illiardbilliard23556 күн бұрын
I honestly prefer the concept that Marceline was never sick, but rather Simon's body temperature was getting colder. That's why her "fever" was worse the following morning. Simon's a smart guy. He knew she wasn't sick, but he couldn't accept the reality of the situation. Not only does he have no control over any of their surroundings, but he's rapidly losing control of himself.
@jrdmgl61906 күн бұрын
loved this video just chef's kiss... UncivilizedElk would be proud
@Yourblackbestfriend6 күн бұрын
51:50 gosh, now I want to learn how to use an editing software so I can make a compilation of clips from the show where Steven would have died if he wasn’t half gem.
@Macaronigoats-6 күн бұрын
7:52 I believe that Fionna looks older than Finn in adventure time because the average female matures faster the average male does, so that’s maybe why she look taller and older (ik it’s weird but it’s human biology) Just a thought tho, there could be other reasons
@randomcommentog6 күн бұрын
Marshall mentioned how he is the son of the Vampire King even though it would be the Vampire Queen in this world so that’s ether a mistake that slipped through or just more evidence that this is just to be intended to be a story told by Marceline and not an actual story that took place in the Fiona and Cake universe
@neodica59676 күн бұрын
I think it depends on if you read his line with a comma or not: "I'm the son of a demon and the Vampire King" vs "I'm the son of a demon, and [I'm] the Vampire King".
@randomcommentog6 күн бұрын
@@neodica5967 On both Hulu and HBO Max the subtitles both say “I’m the son of a demon and the Vampire King.” Unfortunately none of them have commas
@neodica59676 күн бұрын
@@randomcommentog oh well🤷
@MagusFlorren6 күн бұрын
Woah… Wait… 🫥😬 Wow. 💓💓💓
@TheEnderFrog6 күн бұрын
Always great to see more AT vids
@tinseltina6 күн бұрын
oh boy, maybe i should have watched these episodes before watching this video, then i wouldn't feel like i'm trying to play catch-up with the plot and really take advantage of the points you're making. i still had a good time watching but i keep getting distracted with the meta "story within a story" that led to a mini-series theory lol
@tinseltina6 күн бұрын
time for ample samuel!
@dramatictiming6 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed the series
@pbtim2376 күн бұрын
Your analysis of Adventure Time is amazing, really thought out and super detailed. Love this content.
@AmpleSamuel6 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@oliver18206 күн бұрын
What an awesome flipping vid. Samuel I’ve been watching u for so long and i swear you’re gonna have like a million subs one day. Ur channel is such a gold mine!
@AmpleSamuel6 күн бұрын
❤️
@someguy93456 күн бұрын
I liked the analyst. Very interesting
@LittleMissFoxy6 күн бұрын
Genuinely my first introduction to Donald Glover's career as an actor/voice actor and I think it elevated both the music and character of Marshall.
@menace1357 күн бұрын
Ever since ive seen thise episode i thought the little guys were super cute and would be fun to have, but what finn did was complete obsession and destruction, and it makes it worse that these guys are practically alive and characters they know, like dude was forcing relationships and stuff, classic playing god goes wrong... if i had those guys id probably make buildings and feed them (the way they eat is cute af), and talk to them where one seems lonely, and since there's some items they come with i could probably make a party, but never what finn did ever
@dndhydrate7 күн бұрын
It's not always the case, but I can argue that the world that lives in Simon's head could be changed/altered based on things he sees in the real world. Like I'm remembering that "Fionna and Cake mini-series" scene where Simon gets upset after having both and adventure with Finn and not being able to connect to Marcy. Some of the things Simon saw during that sad walk was also seen by Fionna in some strange alternative way. So Marcy telling a story, or Simon hearing Fionna and Cake stories from an outside source does alter the world Prismo hid in his head in some ways. As for the tape? Lol. It be funny if Season 2 of F&C randomly brings that one up.
@AmpleSamuel6 күн бұрын
This is actually a sneaky good theory that I could see the show going with (if they actually cared enough about this slight discrepancy haha)
@adventuretime97367 күн бұрын
This is so good. It's like your reading my mind man! No one ever talks about the werid age gap between them or how this episode isn't canon to fionna and cake.
@mal93697 күн бұрын
I think one of the things about finn and marcys relationship is the discrepancy between what kind of beings they are. Marcy is half human, but bc of her vampirism, is immortal. To that end, her love interest, pb, also being immortal, means that time no longer has any meaning to her. She can be petty and kind of a villain as much as she wants, bc there will always be time down the line for the relationship to be mended. But it is finn, with his childish sincerity, that gets through to the both of them. PB realizes how she hurt him by manipulating his emotions to make him her hero, and marceline remembers what it is like to be just a human again, humans that she once defended ages ago. Both of them are able to get insight into their own flaws through finn, and I think that's something that marcy really represents in her depiction of marshall lee. It's funny how deep this show ended up becoming. When I first started watching it as a kid, it was just a goofy episodic show about a kid who had adventures, but it ended up maturing into this really beautiful story about growing up and dealing with real and personal issues.
@christionpulliam98707 күн бұрын
Marshall seems much more comfortable with the nightosphere claiming to a prince of it marcline never made her self the princess of the nightosphere
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I think it would have been more impactful if jasper had died. Shattering is supposed to be this insanely horrible thing that ends a Gem forever. But jasper just comes back. If she had died it would have made a much greater impact on steven’s mental health and in my opinion helped convey the idea that his trauma is just getting worse and worse better.
the whole point of the flirting thing between marshall and fionna is that he’s messing with her, he doesn’t genuinely see her as a romantic candidate. also the episode where prince gumball goes on a date with her, i was always under the impression that it was the ice queen the whole time tricking fionna, taking advantage of her unreciprocated crush to lure her into a trap.
I would love to see a more adult contination of this show. Like what Gravity Falls is doing now
I will always love Steven Universe and Steven universe future ❤
all i can really add is him forgetting the past, it thematically makes sense that fin wouldn't remember a world fully consumed by Golb, because if he did then the world would still live and on still exist which simply goes against Golbs nature.
my guy i love your videos but this thumbnail is not it
Yeah can’t argue with you there lmao
God, it's been over a decade since I last watched Teen Titans. I remember being totally taken in by the series final and being really disappointed when I read people's opinions online about it. For me, even action orientated shows like DBZ were always about the character development, so I don't think the lack of action in the last episode phased me at all as a kid. However the bittersweet ending with Terra always made me think 'what if' and caused me to compare her to Raven and how she was treated by the Titans. I think as a kid I didn't quite see the 'choices' that you and the show spoke of, so I always had some anger towards how the Titans treated her. I really want to rewatch it now to see how my opinion might have changed since then... Also, yes please. I'd love a video about Raven. :)
People who hated future so far the saddest people ever, It's all focus on Steven rather than everyone claims of lore, gems etc. It's about STEVEN having a FUTURE and that's it.
Something I didn’t notice until my recent rewatch, Beast Boy never asked “Terra” her name. She’s constantly telling BB that’s not who she is but he continues to call her that. This adds to the theme of the episode, BB is so focused on Terra from the past he doesn’t properly see the girl who’s in front of him now. 18 years later and I’m still finding layers in this episode
i think him continuing to tell cactus steven his issues once he knows it repeats shows him wanting help but not being able to let himself admit it and ask for it
I read the thumbnail as "bald little boy" 💀
amazing video! loved it💜
I like your analysis. I’m into a lot of Weird Stories and Rock Bottom reminds me of two I recently read: Robert Aickman’s “The Waiting Room” and Shirley Jackson’s “The Bus”. Some other literary nerd help me verify this.
Random recommendations you never disappoint! Anyways, I generally like the video and the interpretation of the themes and such of the video. One thing I will say, unrelated to that, is I think the reason Finn sees Golb has to do with Finn being one of the Comets, and that sort of loose connection to Golb and the Lich through that. Basically just advanced foreshadowing.
Fin much like many young men hides his feelings, ofcourse he would go from melancholy to blind joy and candy adventures then right back to emotionally suppressed. It added a relatable growth and degradation characteristic to him, it made his feelings blind and real like they so often are for us all
I love teen Titans
This just might be my favorite episode of Samurai Jack. Everything about the episode is just.. incredible. How they handle the haunted house, the demon, the tone shift in color palette and such.
53:00 what show is he talking about here thoooo?
Fionna & Cake eats.
This guy was the epitome of evil when i was a kid
I'd say only Ice King's stories are canon
35:06 finally... Found recognition, it's my favorite track in the whole movie 😭
I'm still here is my favorite song of SU
Alright, why am I simping for Finn's teenage pillow son?
I mean I'd argue that every depiction of Fionna and Cake outside of the mini series (aside from maybe the tapes in "Fionna and Cake and Fionna") is not an accurate view of the characters, they're all innately altered by the biases and perspectives of the ones telling the stories
When I was a boy, I wanted closure and a sense of catharsis for this show I loved. As a middle-aged man, I've come to appreciate the finale depicting the constant struggle representative of a hero team. Catharsis is never achieved, or else the comic would end, and I like to think about the Titans continuing in their struggle for peace beyond the 5 arcs we see. As for Terra in the finale, while young me would have loved for her to return to the team and make goo-goo eyes with Beast Boy. Now, I'm just happy that she lived. Maybe not with the life she had, as Terra, as a super, but at all, and finally free of the curse of great power. She is really the only character to have that catharsis all the Titans strive toward, despite Garfield's efforts.
8:12 I think it’s more at that point of the series Marcy was “flirty” with Finn but never actually liked Finn it was like they were two friends and while she played flirty with Finn she always made it clear they were never gonna be together and everything romantic about them was surface level … I think that kinda reflects the Marshall and Fiona in the story while they were super flirty both of them didn’t actually want too be together Marshall was just being flirty thinking that Fiona liked him (which Finn kinda liked Marcy for a bit but never seriously) and Fiona being like yeah ur cool and I get that we flirt but I don’t like u and I can tell ur just messing around (which might’ve been something that really happened in the real world with Finn and Jake)
the weirdness of fionna's age is something i blame on the writers. i've heard pb and marceline were originally supposed to fight over finn to be his love interest, age gap and all
Wait oh my god really??? With the characters personalities of what they became I could never picture that 😭😭😭
I literally don’t even watch adventure time but this was a very captivating theory. Liked it a lot!
As another story where Marcy narrativizes her own experiences more overtly, "Ketchup" might be a fun episode to compare with this one. 6:54 I always assumed Fionna was Finn's age. In terms of her physical design, I thought it was just reflective of how girls generally start to develop earlier than boys. As for the way she gets romantically paired with Gumball and Marshall, it's weird but it sort of (?) gets addressed within the episodes. In the 1st Fionna and Cake episode, Fionna gets swept up in her dream of dating Gumball, but the extremely questionable scenario where she gets locked in his bedroom shows why dating your much older guy friend isn't actually a good thing. Thankfully they defer away from that scary situation in favor of Gumball being Ice Queen in disguise, but even when the real Gumball asks her out, it's mostly just set up for the story to deteriorate into Ice King worship. Either way, the story ultimately rejects Gumball as a viable love interest and, if anything, Ice King's attraction to Fionna is arguably more questionable (though in fairness, every princess he's attracted to is also much younger than him). As for "Bad Little Boy", I feel like the romantic angle of Fionna and Marshall's relationship is significantly toned down compared to her relationship with Gumball. It doesn't really seem like she has a crush on him, but even if she does, Fionna acknowledges that his flirting is mostly done as a joke and it's understood that he doesn't have feelings for her. It's similar to Finn and Marcy's dynamic from "Go With Me" where they do a bunch of stuff that could be read as having romantic undertones (even before Finn tries to ask her out), but to them it's purely platonic. So even if we don't account for the princesses asking Marcy to inject romance into the story, I feel like Marcy is just drawing on real experiences she's had with Finn and tweaking them for the sake of entertainment, especially since the ending mixes aspects of their encounters from "Evicted!" and "Henchman".
I honestly prefer the concept that Marceline was never sick, but rather Simon's body temperature was getting colder. That's why her "fever" was worse the following morning. Simon's a smart guy. He knew she wasn't sick, but he couldn't accept the reality of the situation. Not only does he have no control over any of their surroundings, but he's rapidly losing control of himself.
loved this video just chef's kiss... UncivilizedElk would be proud
51:50 gosh, now I want to learn how to use an editing software so I can make a compilation of clips from the show where Steven would have died if he wasn’t half gem.
7:52 I believe that Fionna looks older than Finn in adventure time because the average female matures faster the average male does, so that’s maybe why she look taller and older (ik it’s weird but it’s human biology) Just a thought tho, there could be other reasons
Marshall mentioned how he is the son of the Vampire King even though it would be the Vampire Queen in this world so that’s ether a mistake that slipped through or just more evidence that this is just to be intended to be a story told by Marceline and not an actual story that took place in the Fiona and Cake universe
I think it depends on if you read his line with a comma or not: "I'm the son of a demon and the Vampire King" vs "I'm the son of a demon, and [I'm] the Vampire King".
@@neodica5967 On both Hulu and HBO Max the subtitles both say “I’m the son of a demon and the Vampire King.” Unfortunately none of them have commas
@@randomcommentog oh well🤷
Woah… Wait… 🫥😬 Wow. 💓💓💓
Always great to see more AT vids
oh boy, maybe i should have watched these episodes before watching this video, then i wouldn't feel like i'm trying to play catch-up with the plot and really take advantage of the points you're making. i still had a good time watching but i keep getting distracted with the meta "story within a story" that led to a mini-series theory lol
time for ample samuel!
I really enjoyed the series
Your analysis of Adventure Time is amazing, really thought out and super detailed. Love this content.
Thank you!
What an awesome flipping vid. Samuel I’ve been watching u for so long and i swear you’re gonna have like a million subs one day. Ur channel is such a gold mine!
❤️
I liked the analyst. Very interesting
Genuinely my first introduction to Donald Glover's career as an actor/voice actor and I think it elevated both the music and character of Marshall.
Ever since ive seen thise episode i thought the little guys were super cute and would be fun to have, but what finn did was complete obsession and destruction, and it makes it worse that these guys are practically alive and characters they know, like dude was forcing relationships and stuff, classic playing god goes wrong... if i had those guys id probably make buildings and feed them (the way they eat is cute af), and talk to them where one seems lonely, and since there's some items they come with i could probably make a party, but never what finn did ever
It's not always the case, but I can argue that the world that lives in Simon's head could be changed/altered based on things he sees in the real world. Like I'm remembering that "Fionna and Cake mini-series" scene where Simon gets upset after having both and adventure with Finn and not being able to connect to Marcy. Some of the things Simon saw during that sad walk was also seen by Fionna in some strange alternative way. So Marcy telling a story, or Simon hearing Fionna and Cake stories from an outside source does alter the world Prismo hid in his head in some ways. As for the tape? Lol. It be funny if Season 2 of F&C randomly brings that one up.
This is actually a sneaky good theory that I could see the show going with (if they actually cared enough about this slight discrepancy haha)
This is so good. It's like your reading my mind man! No one ever talks about the werid age gap between them or how this episode isn't canon to fionna and cake.
I think one of the things about finn and marcys relationship is the discrepancy between what kind of beings they are. Marcy is half human, but bc of her vampirism, is immortal. To that end, her love interest, pb, also being immortal, means that time no longer has any meaning to her. She can be petty and kind of a villain as much as she wants, bc there will always be time down the line for the relationship to be mended. But it is finn, with his childish sincerity, that gets through to the both of them. PB realizes how she hurt him by manipulating his emotions to make him her hero, and marceline remembers what it is like to be just a human again, humans that she once defended ages ago. Both of them are able to get insight into their own flaws through finn, and I think that's something that marcy really represents in her depiction of marshall lee. It's funny how deep this show ended up becoming. When I first started watching it as a kid, it was just a goofy episodic show about a kid who had adventures, but it ended up maturing into this really beautiful story about growing up and dealing with real and personal issues.
Marshall seems much more comfortable with the nightosphere claiming to a prince of it marcline never made her self the princess of the nightosphere
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