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I love my chieftain 😊
It sounds awesome
Ill never part with my Rocket. Not even for another Rocket. If i do get another Rocket, she'll have a big sister. You make me want to vomit.
Nice video. Any new info now that u have been running them. Sound accelerating . Performance compared to before and then after the exhaust install. As freedom advertises 15-20 percent increase in horsepower and torque ......assuming u got the air intake and the tune. that goes with it. How did that affect performance. Ect......?
Did you get a check engine light on yours after installing that ?
You didn't mention esse of maintenance on an Indian vs. Harley, oil and belt.
Hey man. New subscriber here. Question. Did you took it in for tune up? Did it gave you any issues? I did a stage 1 air fikter on mine and they tuned up for it, but im about to install the same exhaust as yours on the same bike and wasnt sure if tunning is an issue. Some people tells me yes on other bikes, but nothing on this bike yet. What was your experience post install.
As others have said, the competition from Indian should be welcomed by Harley guys. It has and will continue to make Harley improve their products, if they don’t then more people will switch to Indian. Competition is best for us all. Harley guys shouldn’t try to make Indian owners feel bad, that is childish. And vice versa.
Indian has the most maintenance free bike. The gear drive primary is a deal breaker for me. The challenger has all the modern stuff out the gate. Harley Davidson just started to catch up.
If the stock loudness was 5/10, what would you rate the loudness on these?
I just don’t care about the electronics give me an old school I know how to work on it will last me my whole life I got a late 80s hog and early 90s sportster and I can fix anything on them. Good luck repairing the electronics on your new Indian/harley But looking at you I can understand why you did it you probably could not fix anything just saying what I think about all the fancy gadgets people don’t need on a bike when your attention should be on the road and other traffic which is deadly when riding a bike
That’s a nice ass seat Bro!
I recently received my M1 license and l'm in the market of purchasing my first motorcycle ! I asked the sales men or their supervisor at the Indian dealership if I can test ride an Indian Chief Bobber, their response was "no, because I need riding experience, I need motorcycle insurance, and I need to own a motorcycle" ! . Now I see why people told me before hand they have had bad experience at Indian dealerships, had to see it with my own eyes !
Every bike sold in india gets Tank Slappers.. It's named Death Machine (not in a good way) in india due to lots of accidents and deaths due to that reason. Manufacturing Defect.. Is it the same over there ?
I'd be surprised if injun sells 30k bikes a year....
Just bought a Rebel 1100 and wanted to do bar end mirrors. This "How To" video is much appreciated! Thank you, Subbed!
I have the first version from Freedconn, I use it about 7 years, way better than Sena! Better sound, better battery, better range. Quallity very good, never had a problem.
I’m looking at Harley vs Indian and a guy in Florida road an Indian to compare to his Harley’s. He said for the most part it is similar. The one thing he noticed was low speed maneuvering was better on Harley.
Its not controversial, indians are better.
Did you need to tune this
So the main reason I choose Harley over Indian is for a couple or reason. 1 Indian is owned by Polaris. Polaris also owned or still own Victory. they had a great bike and got a lot of people to buy a victory. Then one day they came along and said k we are done. we aren't going to build victory anymore. we will make parts for 10ish years and then we will be done. that was way not cool. Polaris totally dumped on their customers. 2 they are way two expensive. i own a 2023 Goldwing and a 2020 heritage. both are good bikes. and way less money then Indian. Indian is a good quality bike don't get me wrong. I just think they dumped on all their customers. that wasn't cool.
You may want to revisit your argument in 2024. Harley stepped it up with the refresh. The indian looks ugly compared to the new line up.
Another great video. Sounds really excellent! I could probably be comfortable with this dB level around town, but even with a helmet I think I'd get a headache on longer highway/ touring rides, especially out of state. I love the stereo on my Indian (I'm not 100%, but am at least 90% certain my V&H pipes on my youtube videos aren't as throaty or raw as yours. My best sound example of the pipes is the Clear Creek Canyon video where I'm deep in 5 mountain Tunnels) but think I've found a good satisfying balance between throaty exhaust and listening to my music.
Good to see you back on the channel
I won't ever ride an Indian motorcycle for one reason. They ran a bunch of Harley bashing videos to try and turn people away from buying Harley Davidson motorcycles. Everything in those videos were lies. If you can't take on your competitor w/o using lies, you don't get my money.
38k ... will it be reliable? no breakdowns?
Great looking garage and bike!
What flash did you use, and are you throwing codes?
38K is huge waste of $
Nice video, I hope you still have your N1K. I have a 2019. Hey what’s your opinion on going for the larger profile rear tire ‘55’ for better handing, especially cornering? Maybe it’s my lack of riding skills but mine is a bear in the corners! Cheers!
Hello, quick help please! Is a light tickling noise from the front normal when accelerating at low rpm?
Well I just watched and it’s very good. I’m looking at a 22 GT right now so did you keep it or sale it? Thanks RG
Love those Indian motorcycles❣️ They just keep getting better and better👍
I recently retired, and have decided that I may as well go whole hog on my purchase. I am looking to get the 2024 Indian Pursuit Limited w/PowerBand in the Icon Copper...40k, but I am figuring, since I may only have 15-20 years of riding left in my life, why not spend for premium, if it's your sunset years. Like most folks...I am not a fanboy for either company, but the Indian Premium model seems to offer more value out of the box, than a CVO.
15.1 ft lbs. is the exhaust flange torque
It terms of brand Harley is bigger, but in terms of size Indian is way more comfortable.
Which company is bigger is complicated. Harley Davidson is bigger than the Indian Division of Polaris. But company vs. company Polaris is a giant as compared to Harley Davidson. That is the number one reason HD can't beat Indian, at least in the short term. Polaris, as long as they remain dedicated to the Indian name, will always have the financials to produce the Indian lineup and bring similar products to market for less money.( 2024 HD CVO RG $44,5K, 2024 Challenger Elite $38,5K) All prior attempts to bring back Indian were by startups and/or smaller companies, envisioning a boutique bike at an extremely premium price. Polaris Indians are meant to be ridden, not display pieces.
I’ve seen this argument year round and this is my input on this. Harley is not about the chassis or the features. It’s about the way their engines are built. Indian, Honda, Kawasaki still follows the same pattern and many other motorcycle manufacturers other than Harley’s. The pattern is, built a whole engine where if there is a transmission issues, then basically the bike is totaled or due for a new engine. And because of that they use a single oil that lubricate the clutch pack, with the cylinder wall and their gear box. Clutch worns out quick on each ride. And that alone makes the oil impure. Then that oil has to clean the cylinder wall carbon which also gets dirty a lot faster. What they came up with is certain quantity of oil to diminishing the amount of carbon residue left over on each ride with carbon residue. Also they are aware their gears will eventually worn out. Harley broke that math. Harley motorcycle can go on over 300k miles with the same engine with just servicing each parts individually and because they wouldn’t need to remove the engine, it would be the OEM combustion with just internal parts swap or replaced over time. Minus the fact that Harley always have bore option to increase on displacements capacity. That’s coming from a mechanic standpoint. Now the general average Joe is not a mechanic, and specially because they wasn’t around their Harley that much of course they will look for features and storages. But face it, Harley is unique it’s why they sell more bikes also. I am planning to get an Indian down the line, but right now I love my 2023 Road Glide Limited as it is, and I know it’s better than an Indian.
Very good presentation, thanks!… I ´m wondering if you have any vibration on the mirrors while driving high speed. Cheers from Germany
Great video, I’m a goldwing guy first one 1989, 2012 totaled currently 2015, I don’t like the direction Honda is going so I’m looking at Indian touring. How about you show us how easy it is to take the trunk off. Thanks have a great day.
Your bike sounds great after this mod. QQ4U. How much heat does the Pursuit generate. Does it run hot?
the problem for harley is simple: they are not "allowed" to make a water cooled bagger. Indian is. as the epa gets more strict, water cooled has a much easier path forward. as for harley riders? let me just say, I have 2 bikes: a harley and a triumph. when I am on my harley, almost every time I pass another harley on the road, they give me the "hello". when I ride my triumph, they do not. nope not even once. just sayin.
So Polaris says Indian are not American made only assembled in America so I don’t believe I would buy Indian.
Well!!! It might be time to pop your cherry and get educated.... HD's are literally built the same way. That's right. You think you've been knocking back your 100% American burgers with 100% American beer and, in truth, it's all from across the pond. It's a little too late to toss it to the side and curl up about it now, I'm afraid. You ate it, you liked it. Own it. 😂😂
Are all Indians made in Japan? I would like to know thanks. 3:37
Freedom performance sucks. FAB28 ALL DAY.
Hi, great video thank you just a quick question about the O2 sensors did you have to remove them completely from the bike to change the exhaust or could you have just disengaged from the old exhaust and then reconnect to the new one? Thanks in advance Ricky
Hey! I just bought a 2020 identical 636 with the exact same mods done. You wouldn’t have happened to sell your bike in Hawaii would you ?? Just super curious because I thought it was such a coincidence I came across this video
I have been riding on 2 wheels for 35 years now. These type of bikes never got my attention, never. I own, since new, 2020 Goldwing DCT Tour, however I have to say. Indian dealer is the only dealer I stopped by to check the Pursuit Elite with the copper color cyl head. Boy....oooo...boy, what a bike, man. Indian did such an amazing job. The quality of craftmanship, the finish, the ride, just incredible. The only disappointed I had, was the lack of center stand and walk mode reverse, for such a heavy bike. I am waiting for the 25th anniversary Goldwing and if nothing crazy new then, Indian will be next for me. I would not buy an HD or even look at one, that is my take. All should ride what they like.
Currently, those are the two cruiser brands. Honda ruined themselves with the new Gold Wing toy, in 2018. Indian is a good solid bike.
how long does the install take roughly?