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@@MariosACandRefrigeration at discharge was 265/55. Not at liquid point
@EvanT19952 сағат бұрын
They made the right choice going with you. Hope part 2 is longer format like some of your 20+ min videos. Lots of work I know but I love this side of hvac!
@jrh863 сағат бұрын
Crooks !
@markae03 сағат бұрын
They work just for the money, have no pride or shame.
@harrydickson45754 сағат бұрын
👍👍👍
@harrydickson45754 сағат бұрын
Excellent can’t wait for part 2 👍👍
@bensreferigeration4 сағат бұрын
Might be time to split one of those coils to see if tweener is dirty too.
@jeffreylentz66994 сағат бұрын
You need a compressor cool tool
@mynameismud084 сағат бұрын
Hanlon's razor is an adage or rule of thumb that states: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. It is a philosophical razor that suggests a way of eliminating unlikely explanations for human behavior.
@mxslick504 сағат бұрын
To be fair, even though they should have landed those bond wires on the grounding bar, the cover of the mc cable will still provide a ground path, even though it is not optimal. That presumes that the proper metal clamp fittings were used at all ends. Why did I call them bond wires? Because they are soft aluminium and not copper with green insulation as found in proper 12/2 or 12/3 with ground mc cable.
@restaurantrepairs4 сағат бұрын
So that would pass inspection then? I’m not alleging it’s unworkable I’m saying it’s not “right”.
@mxslick504 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairs It depends on local codes and the inspector. I would have to dig out my NEC code book to see if it is considered a violation. I have had it be ok in some cases and fail in others. I personally always landed bond and grounds, my work was always following others in those cases. If it was pre existing, the client was on the hook to correct it. If I missed it on what I did, I had to correct it. When I did encounyer this, I always showed it to the client and wrote it up in my reports and invoices.
@restaurantrepairs4 сағат бұрын
Gotcha. You know your stuff man. Admittedly I’m no electrician I just figure they were right there. Why not just land them? I appreciate all the info. 👍
@mxslick504 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairs You're welcome. Yeah 45 years doing electrical work and have seen alot. I really enjoy your channel and seeing the variety of things you deal with. Fryers and prep tables are gross. Worst I have dealt with was sewage treatment plants, the headworks buildings were horror shows.
@volksvlogen5 сағат бұрын
Both. Poor peraonal accountability aling with a company that allows it to continue.
@Allegheny5005 сағат бұрын
This reminds me of working in IT and finding a just fixed computer with the wrong power supply.
@EvanT19955 сағат бұрын
I may be ignorant because I’m not in the industry and I know there are a multitude of problems with the unit however, with it being 20 years old is there NO way to replace just a compressor if say everything else was good? Or is it just a case of “throw it away and buy new” when all I hear is how the new stuff is hot garbage. I’m genuinely curious.
@restaurantrepairs5 сағат бұрын
Great questions. Straight talk sure…. That compressor gonna cost ME 2k. I gave them that option. A 20 year old unit was on borrowed time long ago. The 18 year old unit that got a new compressor should better had been replaced. Yep they got more years out of it but it’s about downtime. How often do you want to have all your food going soggy and quality and Inspection concerns. It’s owner by owner decision and it’s often tempting to swap a compressor only but generally the long game view is fiscally wiser.
@EvanT19955 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairs I can absolutely understand where you’re coming from and I completely agree with you. Thanks for getting back to me about it
@travisrussell57315 сағат бұрын
Absolutely, you can just replace the compressor. However though, you need to replace your TXV or piston as well, flush condenser and evaporator with a proper refrigerant kit(idr the name of the flush chemical), replace drier filters, purge with nitrogen while soldering, pull a vacuum for 10 mins and let vacuum rest for 30 mins to ensure no leakage, and obviously inspect coil condition and fan condition for both evap and condenser, and actually use the low/high pressure switches. If all that is completed then you'll easily get another 5-10 years from the system.
@restaurantrepairs4 сағат бұрын
@travisrussell5731 until the Evap ends start leaking and then we’re replacing half of a 20 year old system cuz you already did the compressors. I’ve done it. Owners are the boss.
@travisrussell57314 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairs that's why you look at what you're doing. Not every 20 yr old evap coil is shot, It really doesn't happen that often unless they have neglected the unit. Also, I wasn't talking to you, I replied to Evan. Even IF the evap started to leak you would peer pressure them into replacing an entire air handler? when only an evap coil is needed??? You sir are the definition of a con-man.
@chadgarner93716 сағат бұрын
I bet that evaporater looks lovely.😂
@larryholman75616 сағат бұрын
Ignorance.
@DavidMoore-lx4xz6 сағат бұрын
The deans of technical schools have determined that 40% of workers in the field are not educated. 40% do not care as long as they grab a big paycheck. And 20% are trying to serve their customers and do what is technically correct to save their customers money.
@NinjaNateOS7 сағат бұрын
Idiocy but it might have been what the customer approved
@restaurantrepairs6 сағат бұрын
Them that’s also on the technician. A owner doesn’t get to say it’s ok to run without the HP safety. I’m not leaving it that way. So they can make it so or I’ll go.
@armandotorres6267 сағат бұрын
Idiocy for sure..... The way things are these days unfortunately..... If something makes too much sense, then it's wrong.... That's been my go to saying for years now.....
@charlesmalloy81507 сағат бұрын
Both
@jusrobington7 сағат бұрын
Sounds like a case of : My job was to replace the compressor nothing else.
@restaurantrepairs7 сағат бұрын
Bingo
@OcRefrig7 сағат бұрын
i'm Leaning towards " idiocy ". Total idiot !!! Receiver is Missing too !!!
@LynxSnowCat8 сағат бұрын
"Yes." (The two aren't mutually exclusive.)
@restaurantrepairs7 сағат бұрын
Love that
@douro208 сағат бұрын
Fan's spinning slow...perhaps the capacitor got too hot...it's very close to the compressor.
@OcRefrig7 сағат бұрын
Whenever i Replace a Compressor i Replace the Condenser fan motor. Especially those little 1/15hp motors. Those Condenser fan motors quit all the time. They are Cheap too. Easy to replace. i Keep 2 on the truck at all times & 2 More in my shop. they only last 5-10 years. at 10 years i replace no matter what. cheap insurance. 9721 motor ftw there.
@restaurantrepairs7 сағат бұрын
3 phase. No start components
@douro207 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairs Well it looked like it had a run capacitor on it.
@restaurantrepairs7 сағат бұрын
@douro20 understood. Man I wish it were start components. She’s done. Replacement video in process. Entire system
@philltafolla7 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairshe probably meant the capacitor for the condenser fan motor. Quick tip never , never , touch a compressor body while applying voltage and testing. Imagine one of the windings making contact with the body and you go and touch the body 😮. Old school guy I worked with taught me that makes lots of sense. Good video 👍🏼.
@RayRay-nb7tn19 сағат бұрын
You think that the low air flow from the fan would be the cause of the ice up? Always check air flow 1st, fan, belt, return n supply duct. I agree the freez stat wasn't wired correctly. No heat to melt the ice?
@restaurantrepairs11 сағат бұрын
Hard to completely believe. I did adjust the fan first cuz I needed the airflow to melt the ice and was definitely lacking. I’ve found that the air defrost is just as streamline as any heat. I’ve used heat guns and torches and it doesn’t really seem to make that big of a difference. Let the air eat it up. When it’s 6 inches thick it is what it is.
@inothome19 сағат бұрын
Measure across the same phase on the contactor, that will give you your voltage drop when pulled in across that phase. 1-2, 3-4, 5-6. That fourth contact, as someone else mentioned before is an aux contact and only rated for 10A (or only 3A depending on what standards you chose to follow), not the 32A the first three are rated for. May get you by in a pinch, but that fourth contact is not meant for the normal loads on that contactor. Just for low current auxiliary uses like status, interlocking etc... Why it's labeled 13 and 14. Yes, I looked up data sheet on that contactor to verify.
@restaurantrepairs19 сағат бұрын
Compressor only pull 7.4 amps so she flies. I generally replace after moving them anyway but you don’t “have to”
@inothome19 сағат бұрын
@@restaurantrepairs That's fine, just be aware that contact is not rated the same as the other three. It gets more confusing, complicated and more derated when talking inductive loads, which the compressors / motors are. Look up the data sheet if you want your head to spin. lol
@restaurantrepairs11 сағат бұрын
@inothome you’ve already got me 🤯 👍
@CommonCentsRob20 сағат бұрын
Nicely done. Great troubleshooting.
@ATAKace121 сағат бұрын
Was it just the fan belt causing it to ice up?
@restaurantrepairs20 сағат бұрын
Man that’s hard to believe. I left it running and tomorrow I’m gonna have my other tech go by and follow up. Then we’ll know better.
@davidnull559022 сағат бұрын
Suggestion: In future videos could you give us an idea of how big is the unit? Just roughly. Thanks.
@analogmoz19 сағат бұрын
100 ton or 3 ton, you probably know the CFM per ton, right?
@harrydickson457523 сағат бұрын
Nice job 👍👍👍
@terrygrant812623 сағат бұрын
I have those same issues with the same brands here in Augusta.....Bojangles....
@themayorofairconditioning2868Күн бұрын
Hey joe, i am going to bid on a wic system replacement tomorrow. I usually only do residential but really want to get into commercial. Is there any way i can talk to you this evening for some questions?
@restaurantrepairsКүн бұрын
@@themayorofairconditioning2868 email me at [email protected] and we can connect.
@themayorofairconditioning286820 сағат бұрын
Thanks I did. Really I was mostly wondering about what size evap and condenser to buy, and how to charge these things. The model on the evap says 065 on it so I guess that's 6500 btu? So probably that's what I'll replace it with? And do I just fill it to clear the sight glass, or is there some way to measure more accurately that I don't know about? @@restaurantrepairs
@life_behind_barsКүн бұрын
Showing your mad skills with the one-handed double button technician level access move. That's how you can tell a tech has worked on electrofreezr GES/GEN models way more than they would like 👍
@restaurantrepairsКүн бұрын
You’re not wrong. Thanks for noticing 😂
@user-zb5gd2ff8yКүн бұрын
That's what you call a maypop. When that 100 amp breaker gets 80 amps across it, play pop. If it's bitter cold, use of all these devices at once is going to pop that breaker. Emergency heat, hot tub water heater, steady 38 amps on the car charger 1 microwave and one vacuum cleaner added and lights out. You have to think about 80%.
@user-zb5gd2ff8yКүн бұрын
Yeah where was the electrician? 😜
@harrydickson4575Күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@harrydickson4575Күн бұрын
Frosty Tesos 😂😂😂
@restaurantrepairsКүн бұрын
Sticky frosty testos
@harrydickson4575Күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@justanoldhandymanКүн бұрын
I saw it! lol👍
@restaurantrepairsКүн бұрын
No doubt
@justanoldhandymanКүн бұрын
👍
@DrewniversedКүн бұрын
@1:30 AH.. AH... AHHHhhhhhhhhhh ... lmao
@jordanwerner9967Күн бұрын
Love the videos man keep it up very informative god bless!😊
@jordanwerner9967Күн бұрын
First!
@hvacrnortheastern2110Күн бұрын
Change them all as set the sensor you know the saying one goes bad eventually they will all go bad great video.
Пікірлер
Such a shame
What was the pressure before the drier?
@@MariosACandRefrigeration at discharge was 265/55. Not at liquid point
They made the right choice going with you. Hope part 2 is longer format like some of your 20+ min videos. Lots of work I know but I love this side of hvac!
Crooks !
They work just for the money, have no pride or shame.
👍👍👍
Excellent can’t wait for part 2 👍👍
Might be time to split one of those coils to see if tweener is dirty too.
You need a compressor cool tool
Hanlon's razor is an adage or rule of thumb that states: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. It is a philosophical razor that suggests a way of eliminating unlikely explanations for human behavior.
To be fair, even though they should have landed those bond wires on the grounding bar, the cover of the mc cable will still provide a ground path, even though it is not optimal. That presumes that the proper metal clamp fittings were used at all ends. Why did I call them bond wires? Because they are soft aluminium and not copper with green insulation as found in proper 12/2 or 12/3 with ground mc cable.
So that would pass inspection then? I’m not alleging it’s unworkable I’m saying it’s not “right”.
@@restaurantrepairs It depends on local codes and the inspector. I would have to dig out my NEC code book to see if it is considered a violation. I have had it be ok in some cases and fail in others. I personally always landed bond and grounds, my work was always following others in those cases. If it was pre existing, the client was on the hook to correct it. If I missed it on what I did, I had to correct it. When I did encounyer this, I always showed it to the client and wrote it up in my reports and invoices.
Gotcha. You know your stuff man. Admittedly I’m no electrician I just figure they were right there. Why not just land them? I appreciate all the info. 👍
@@restaurantrepairs You're welcome. Yeah 45 years doing electrical work and have seen alot. I really enjoy your channel and seeing the variety of things you deal with. Fryers and prep tables are gross. Worst I have dealt with was sewage treatment plants, the headworks buildings were horror shows.
Both. Poor peraonal accountability aling with a company that allows it to continue.
This reminds me of working in IT and finding a just fixed computer with the wrong power supply.
I may be ignorant because I’m not in the industry and I know there are a multitude of problems with the unit however, with it being 20 years old is there NO way to replace just a compressor if say everything else was good? Or is it just a case of “throw it away and buy new” when all I hear is how the new stuff is hot garbage. I’m genuinely curious.
Great questions. Straight talk sure…. That compressor gonna cost ME 2k. I gave them that option. A 20 year old unit was on borrowed time long ago. The 18 year old unit that got a new compressor should better had been replaced. Yep they got more years out of it but it’s about downtime. How often do you want to have all your food going soggy and quality and Inspection concerns. It’s owner by owner decision and it’s often tempting to swap a compressor only but generally the long game view is fiscally wiser.
@@restaurantrepairs I can absolutely understand where you’re coming from and I completely agree with you. Thanks for getting back to me about it
Absolutely, you can just replace the compressor. However though, you need to replace your TXV or piston as well, flush condenser and evaporator with a proper refrigerant kit(idr the name of the flush chemical), replace drier filters, purge with nitrogen while soldering, pull a vacuum for 10 mins and let vacuum rest for 30 mins to ensure no leakage, and obviously inspect coil condition and fan condition for both evap and condenser, and actually use the low/high pressure switches. If all that is completed then you'll easily get another 5-10 years from the system.
@travisrussell5731 until the Evap ends start leaking and then we’re replacing half of a 20 year old system cuz you already did the compressors. I’ve done it. Owners are the boss.
@@restaurantrepairs that's why you look at what you're doing. Not every 20 yr old evap coil is shot, It really doesn't happen that often unless they have neglected the unit. Also, I wasn't talking to you, I replied to Evan. Even IF the evap started to leak you would peer pressure them into replacing an entire air handler? when only an evap coil is needed??? You sir are the definition of a con-man.
I bet that evaporater looks lovely.😂
Ignorance.
The deans of technical schools have determined that 40% of workers in the field are not educated. 40% do not care as long as they grab a big paycheck. And 20% are trying to serve their customers and do what is technically correct to save their customers money.
Idiocy but it might have been what the customer approved
Them that’s also on the technician. A owner doesn’t get to say it’s ok to run without the HP safety. I’m not leaving it that way. So they can make it so or I’ll go.
Idiocy for sure..... The way things are these days unfortunately..... If something makes too much sense, then it's wrong.... That's been my go to saying for years now.....
Both
Sounds like a case of : My job was to replace the compressor nothing else.
Bingo
i'm Leaning towards " idiocy ". Total idiot !!! Receiver is Missing too !!!
"Yes." (The two aren't mutually exclusive.)
Love that
Fan's spinning slow...perhaps the capacitor got too hot...it's very close to the compressor.
Whenever i Replace a Compressor i Replace the Condenser fan motor. Especially those little 1/15hp motors. Those Condenser fan motors quit all the time. They are Cheap too. Easy to replace. i Keep 2 on the truck at all times & 2 More in my shop. they only last 5-10 years. at 10 years i replace no matter what. cheap insurance. 9721 motor ftw there.
3 phase. No start components
@@restaurantrepairs Well it looked like it had a run capacitor on it.
@douro20 understood. Man I wish it were start components. She’s done. Replacement video in process. Entire system
@@restaurantrepairshe probably meant the capacitor for the condenser fan motor. Quick tip never , never , touch a compressor body while applying voltage and testing. Imagine one of the windings making contact with the body and you go and touch the body 😮. Old school guy I worked with taught me that makes lots of sense. Good video 👍🏼.
You think that the low air flow from the fan would be the cause of the ice up? Always check air flow 1st, fan, belt, return n supply duct. I agree the freez stat wasn't wired correctly. No heat to melt the ice?
Hard to completely believe. I did adjust the fan first cuz I needed the airflow to melt the ice and was definitely lacking. I’ve found that the air defrost is just as streamline as any heat. I’ve used heat guns and torches and it doesn’t really seem to make that big of a difference. Let the air eat it up. When it’s 6 inches thick it is what it is.
Measure across the same phase on the contactor, that will give you your voltage drop when pulled in across that phase. 1-2, 3-4, 5-6. That fourth contact, as someone else mentioned before is an aux contact and only rated for 10A (or only 3A depending on what standards you chose to follow), not the 32A the first three are rated for. May get you by in a pinch, but that fourth contact is not meant for the normal loads on that contactor. Just for low current auxiliary uses like status, interlocking etc... Why it's labeled 13 and 14. Yes, I looked up data sheet on that contactor to verify.
Compressor only pull 7.4 amps so she flies. I generally replace after moving them anyway but you don’t “have to”
@@restaurantrepairs That's fine, just be aware that contact is not rated the same as the other three. It gets more confusing, complicated and more derated when talking inductive loads, which the compressors / motors are. Look up the data sheet if you want your head to spin. lol
@inothome you’ve already got me 🤯 👍
Nicely done. Great troubleshooting.
Was it just the fan belt causing it to ice up?
Man that’s hard to believe. I left it running and tomorrow I’m gonna have my other tech go by and follow up. Then we’ll know better.
Suggestion: In future videos could you give us an idea of how big is the unit? Just roughly. Thanks.
100 ton or 3 ton, you probably know the CFM per ton, right?
Nice job 👍👍👍
I have those same issues with the same brands here in Augusta.....Bojangles....
Hey joe, i am going to bid on a wic system replacement tomorrow. I usually only do residential but really want to get into commercial. Is there any way i can talk to you this evening for some questions?
@@themayorofairconditioning2868 email me at [email protected] and we can connect.
Thanks I did. Really I was mostly wondering about what size evap and condenser to buy, and how to charge these things. The model on the evap says 065 on it so I guess that's 6500 btu? So probably that's what I'll replace it with? And do I just fill it to clear the sight glass, or is there some way to measure more accurately that I don't know about? @@restaurantrepairs
Showing your mad skills with the one-handed double button technician level access move. That's how you can tell a tech has worked on electrofreezr GES/GEN models way more than they would like 👍
You’re not wrong. Thanks for noticing 😂
That's what you call a maypop. When that 100 amp breaker gets 80 amps across it, play pop. If it's bitter cold, use of all these devices at once is going to pop that breaker. Emergency heat, hot tub water heater, steady 38 amps on the car charger 1 microwave and one vacuum cleaner added and lights out. You have to think about 80%.
Yeah where was the electrician? 😜
👍👍👍
Frosty Tesos 😂😂😂
Sticky frosty testos
👍👍👍
I saw it! lol👍
No doubt
👍
@1:30 AH.. AH... AHHHhhhhhhhhhh ... lmao
Love the videos man keep it up very informative god bless!😊
First!
Change them all as set the sensor you know the saying one goes bad eventually they will all go bad great video.