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Tenor Ligature  Unboxing

Tenor Ligature Unboxing

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  • @Kjhd9987hy
    @Kjhd9987hy2 күн бұрын

    you can buy 50,000 grit diamond paste thats in a spray bottle, knife sharpeners use it. a tiny sprits on paper would prolly does a great job too.

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues115821 күн бұрын

    They sound really good, but the upper register go for the Rigotti Redbox!

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues115821 күн бұрын

    Get hold of Rigotti Red Box. They are a classical reed and will satisfy your need for resistance in the top. And very consistent.

  • @CimarronLeatherStudio
    @CimarronLeatherStudio22 күн бұрын

    Wouldn’t it advisable to cover the tip rail? I’m going to reduce the high baffle on a piece little by little to try and create a lesser bright sound.

  • @littlebones18
    @littlebones1823 күн бұрын

    Buuuuuuy..your piece from Jones. You sold it, Garz said get it-back..Your piece from Billy Jones....to blooooooww...5:40 yeah!!!!

  • @saxmusicmail
    @saxmusicmailАй бұрын

    If you begin with a mouthpiece with a .075" tip opening, and the thickness of the tip is .040", to bring it to .105" tip opening would mean you would need to remove .105" - .075" = .030" of material. If the tip thickness is only .040", then .040" - .030" = .010" remaining thickness. This razor thin tip would be very delicate and easy to break. No, you just can't do this. If you then file back the tip you have also lost some of the tip opening gained. Some jobs like this are just a losing proposition. If you take material from the table in an attempt to angle the tip up you will create an abrupt angle at the break, or where the facing comes away from the table. You will end up with a facing that has a sharp curve at the break, and long nearly flat region. It just doesn't work out. This is like wanting to bore out an automotive engine, only to run into the water jacket, or stroke the engine (longer throw on the crankshaft) only to find the connecting rods hit the inside of the block. There are limits to what you can do.

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks22 күн бұрын

    sure. and then you have to cut back window to a proper shape. Tons of experience is required. Like like playing. Just like rebuilding 283s and 327s and 8BAs.

  • @saxmusicmail
    @saxmusicmailАй бұрын

    Feeler sizes needed are: .0015" (referred to as "one and a half thousandths"). This is used to measure the facing length. It is quite delicate, and some guys use .002", though that gives a slightly shorter, about 1 mm shorter, measured length. Does not matter as long as you are consistent. Next is .010" (ten thousandths). Then .014", .024" or .025" (will give the same measurement), .030" or .031" (will give the same measurement), .048" or .050", .063", .077" or .078" (2 mm), .094". There are two types of glass gauges. One type, the zero is not on the edge, but about 2 mm away from the edge. I prefer the "zero edge". The zero is right on the edge. The mouthpiece can be placed on the glass and the mouthpiece and glass pushed lightly against a vertical surface, such as the edge of your workbench, to align the mouthpiece to zero on the glass. The wands are fine for measuring tip with most clarinet mouthpieces, but for sax mouthpieces with a good "roll over" baffle the wand sometimes hits the roll over, not the tip rail, resulting in a false reading. I use the gauge fixture from Theo Wanne or the one I have from long ago from Winslow (long out of business) holding digital gauges fitted with a small ball tip. The ball tip will contact the tip rail at only one point, giving an accurate and repeatable reading without scratching the tip rail. For plastic and hard rubber, 600 grit silicon carbide paper will do most jobs, but 800 and 1000 sometimes used for a little polishing. Metal, 400 grit to start, finishing with 600. Stainless steel mouithpieces, Bergs, are VERY difficult to reface.

  • @nolangottfried9860
    @nolangottfried9860Ай бұрын

    which signal booster are you using?

  • @interwebzful
    @interwebzfulАй бұрын

    i wonder what cheap paper would be classified in the normal sand paper grit numbering systems.... 4000? i have 3000 in front of me right now (the highest i have from a variety pack off amazon) and it feels rougher

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeksАй бұрын

    and I wouldn't use sand paper for this. you don't want the abrasive sand imbedded in your reeds grinding down your mouthpiece.

  • @interwebzful
    @interwebzfulАй бұрын

    @@saxophonegeeks that's a very good point, hadn't thought of that. but the internet is filled with reed players using sand paper. sigh. gimme a high powered microscope and i'll settle this debate! lol

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeksАй бұрын

    @@interwebzful lol.

  • @neymarco10_ssjgod71
    @neymarco10_ssjgod712 ай бұрын

    Table concavity? What u mean? Thetable has to be flat

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks2 ай бұрын

    some people like myself prefer a concave table. More reed friendly and works better with an old fashioned 2 screw ligature. Any good mouthpiece craftsman or refaced will know what this is all about.

  • @Tuca-Luthier.
    @Tuca-Luthier.3 ай бұрын

    Good morning, I would like to learn how to reface, I'm from Brazil, could you help me?

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks3 ай бұрын

    I teach online zoom lessons and would be willing to teach you mouthpiece theory and concepts which would help you get started. email me at [email protected] to talk about setting this up.

  • @OrmanD7
    @OrmanD74 ай бұрын

    Nice video!!

  • @r.johnston919
    @r.johnston9194 ай бұрын

    I really liked the “hey ,I’m here play me sound “that you are made on the 1st Supreme more than your own horn.The issues that you mentioned are all minor and with a proper setup and a bit of time you would adjust to the new horn.Intonation and articulation seemed better on the Supreme .BTW The Jody jazz hand hammered mouthpiece sound great on these horns.I have a handmade Guardala Super king and would love to get a hold of one the Supremes to try it out on them.

  • @emjayuu1970
    @emjayuu19705 ай бұрын

    Not exactly the proper way to fold up the stand.

  • @jazldazl9193
    @jazldazl91935 ай бұрын

    Nice layman's overview. Refacing can be amazing, but I don't know how to adjust the facing in discrete areas. Any clues?

  • @ed.z.
    @ed.z.6 ай бұрын

    The big opening takes away from the richness of your sound.

  • @XavierJordanMusic
    @XavierJordanMusic7 ай бұрын

    I think I almost bought this 😂. Now I wish I did 😅

  • @XavierJordanMusic
    @XavierJordanMusic7 ай бұрын

    It sounds great!

  • @hflynnjr
    @hflynnjr8 ай бұрын

    Cool horn. I also got a 182k (1937/1938) 10M. My grandfather purchased it brand new in 1939 for $150. He had it relac'd sometime in the 1970s as well.

  • @oliveira6087
    @oliveira60878 ай бұрын

    Faz uns três meses mais ou menos que adquiri uma Selmer Soloist C de tenor (acredito que ela seja bem fechada) sempre toquei com boquilhas mais abertas 7 ou 8 e agora estou sofrendo muito pra me adaptar a ela, uso palhetas número 2 e não tem dado certo, sinto a embocadura não acostumar. Oque devo fazer pra melhorar ??? Qual o estudo recomendado pra adaptar ??

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues11589 ай бұрын

    i change up all the time because it inspires me to practice EVERY day. And I do not mean noodling! The different thing brings different ideas to me. I write down a lot of the things that pop up. I have been doing this for 60 years now LOL!

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks9 ай бұрын

    yeah man! Gotto keep the fires burning.

  • @ericblachman232
    @ericblachman2329 ай бұрын

    I’ve ALWAYS gotten a lot of value from your videos, and your stream of consciousness with your playing/talking creates a wonderfully true experience that’s very relatable for the player. What era Mark6 is that?, I’ve got a great 166xxx that I play, although I’m playing a 1932 Selmer Super as well, and it’s a fantastically different vibe than any 6 out there. Mouthpieces “behave” so differently on different horns. I’m playing either a 7* STM no usa or a ebonite 7* Babbitt. Thanks for your focused devotion to all of this.

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your kind words. my Mark VI is in the 92xxx range. Around 1961, American assembled/engraved.

  • @wattong1
    @wattong19 ай бұрын

    Andy, nice hearing your views, i own a '65 mkVI and I've been also playing on a selmer super action series iii tenor for a few years. I like the series iii updated build quality and sound however at the end of the day the price is what gets me, man over $10k for any musical instrument these is unwarranted. I would buy a good used car first like you said and I'd still have my MkVI.

  • @brianbutler9775
    @brianbutler977510 ай бұрын

    Thanks for showing how to measure the facing. How do I find one of those kits? Also, how did Adam tell you how to clean the brass mouthpieces?

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks10 ай бұрын

    music medic might have kits for sale. I believe Theo Wanne also makes this kind of gear. Google it up!

  • @sundararajureddi8303
    @sundararajureddi830310 ай бұрын

    Prefer your tenor’s sound. But then again you’re used to it’s character, so it might take a bit more time with the Supreme.

  • @Joseph124269
    @Joseph12426911 ай бұрын

    That thing is poisonous

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues115811 ай бұрын

    Always a pleasure Andy! You and Gonz sounded beautiful together. Super melodic!

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks11 ай бұрын

    oh man. you saw that? talk about holding on for dear life!!

  • @richardsteinberg7654
    @richardsteinberg765411 ай бұрын

    Hi Mr. G, The Jerry Rig sounds a little darker than the first one. I like both; although I favor the first one. Sorry Jerry, I still love you! Please let me know if the new ones are easy to come by. Jerry is “good people!” Best Regards, Rick Looking for one for Bari! Née

  • @drope-wx5ho
    @drope-wx5ho11 ай бұрын

    supreme

  • @ericblachman232
    @ericblachman23211 ай бұрын

    Hey Andy - I’ve admired your playing & videos for some time now! About 8 minutes into this, after just your first phrase, I was really missing your Mark6. The 6 has what I call a traditional Jazz Authenticity going on…..and I’m talking GOING ON! The Links begin this process like no other mouthpiece in history (yeah I’m an opinionated s.o.b.), but for myself during these 3+ Covid years I’ve confirmed that the horn matters. I play either a 1932 or 1969 Selmer tenor, and still spend serious time on a 1927 Chu. Where I live I’ve discovered a wonderful repair tech who’s made ALL the difference in changing my mind about selling a couple of my horns. It’s wonderful to see and hear you go through the different processes you present in your thoughtful dedication to saxophone playing.

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks11 ай бұрын

    thanks!

  • @zqa12swx
    @zqa12swx11 ай бұрын

    that slant is MEAN! It's got that dry bite in there. And I'm starting to love wide open alto mouthpieces too

  • @sloopeymusic
    @sloopeymusic Жыл бұрын

    Nearly 10 minutes, 4 of which is unpacking! Doesn't even show what I wanted, clear shots of the setting and breaking down so I know whether it's gig-friendly or not.

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't buy another one.

  • @sloopeymusic
    @sloopeymusic Жыл бұрын

    @@saxophonegeeks is that because it isn’t very good or because you have enough stands 🙂

  • @mercurysax8902
    @mercurysax8902 Жыл бұрын

    Hi … I got into repair work and brought an old beat up 28m after playing Yamaha for 20+ years just to see how unique the ideas and mechanisms on this horn are… was a bit of a love hate relationship at first but I then purchased a 1950 conn 28M and overhauled it….love it! More focused than older conns and delicate in build but such a shame conn and other manufacturers didn’t take on some of the ideas (doesn’t series III have 3pios ?). If there is ever a vintage horn that needs remaking including the tenor that never went into production this is it. Thanks for reviewing it favourably

  • @JamesLamb
    @JamesLamb Жыл бұрын

    Where's part 2? I'm an amateur. Sold my high school Bundy alto. Years later, went to a shop and tried 4-5 used altos; bought the best-sounding - used student Yamaha. Played it for awhile, and some clicking arose... lost a screw?? Still plays, but... Anyway, seems the repairs will cost the same as a new one. Still, seems a waste to throw out a body that has good tone.

  • @marks.6656
    @marks.6656 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for spotlighting the latest model. To be completely honest, you sounded much better when you demo'd your friend's Ponzol Pro One. You also looked much more comfortable on the P1 keys.

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. That was a nice horn (the ponzel), especially for the money. And of course, you have to live with a horn for a while before you really know what's what. Play it with different reeds, in different rooms/situations. It takes a while, at least as far as Im concerned. Playing a horn for 20 mins in a music store is a pretty limited overview for sure.

  • @richardcasey7521
    @richardcasey7521 Жыл бұрын

    All 3 horns sound excellent. Am I going to run out and buy one for $11,000? Heck no, it’s not THAT much better than my 61,000 Mk6 but it’s very nice.

  • @rogersalles200
    @rogersalles200 Жыл бұрын

    Are you using a very hard Reed? Sound struggles to come out

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    yes I prefer hard reeds.

  • @rogersalles200
    @rogersalles20023 күн бұрын

    @@saxophonegeeks but you sound great man

  • @j.r.1210
    @j.r.1210 Жыл бұрын

    Will these two Supremes be sold as "new" after all the jam sessions, play test videos, random customer use, etc.? How much playing has to occur before a horn becomes a "demo model" that is sold for a small discount? Or do some shops reject that designation and regard their inventory as brand new until sold, regardless of how much it is played?

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    lol. for real.

  • @hepcatbdr5291
    @hepcatbdr5291 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds damn fine. Wis they would make them without the high F#

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    ehhh, if you don't use it you don't even know its there.

  • @JRM---516
    @JRM---516 Жыл бұрын

    Just bought a mint 1955 MK VI alto. Lucky me!

  • @jongoforth1405
    @jongoforth1405 Жыл бұрын

    I'm eager to try one. I mainly play one of two SBA tenors, a 50k & a 54k. The sound of the VI seems to have a bit more tonal variation, like flavor, or color. So hard to say what it is. I guess the Supreme sounds more "direct", whatever the hell that means! I like your VI a bit more, but who's to say that after a couple of weeks you'd get the same stuff outta the Supreme? YOU sound really good-you'd sound good on any horn. Frankly, I figure that every sax needs to be played in tune and a good player figures the quirks and plays around them. I'll take more quirks with a more interesting sound. Just my opinion, obviously. I won't be sellin' me SBA's for a Supreme, no laddie, you can take that to the bank!

  • @stangetz534
    @stangetz534 Жыл бұрын

    which sounds more like a human voice?

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    none of them.

  • @stangetz534
    @stangetz534 Жыл бұрын

    so did you trade?

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    hahah no.

  • @JorisPosthumus
    @JorisPosthumus Жыл бұрын

    great tool from china

  • @breckerfan
    @breckerfan Жыл бұрын

    Bumpers bending!!! Are you serious? 😂😂

  • @user-wx7dd9gc6j
    @user-wx7dd9gc6j9 ай бұрын

    He's just kiddin' 😅don't get your panties in a bunch 😅

  • @benhostetler268
    @benhostetler268 Жыл бұрын

    The Supreme is significantly better I have played a Supreme that was setup the same as a Mark VI I compared it to and it just killed the mark VI.

  • @richardjones990
    @richardjones990 Жыл бұрын

    Had a chance to listen to a review by Edmar Colón of the Supreme tenor while he was visiting the Virtuosity shop in Boston I believe. Most likely it was one of the tenors you reviewed. The Supreme is a very good instrument IMHO. Thank you for your honest opinion.

  • @stangetz534
    @stangetz534 Жыл бұрын

    it sounds good like approaching getz

  • @Khargelius
    @Khargelius Жыл бұрын

    I played a Supreme tenor earlier this week for about an hour. I have a Series III Jubilee alto that I’ve had for about seven years, and like it better than my mark VII alto that I’ve had since 1978. I’ve played a Herb Couf tenor For 30 years and learned to deal with the intonation problems that horn has. So, when I played the tenor Supreme, I was extremely happy with the instrument. I don’t play as much jazz as classical, and I didn’t try my Otto Link mouthpiece with the supreme. I played my S80 C* and the Concept mouthpiece that came with the Supreme. It was easy to play with a tight, focused, smooth tone on the S80. The Concept played with a more rounder, thicker, spread tone. I have been looking to upgrade from the Couf tenor to a Yamaha 875 EZ (can’t find a store that has it to try out) or a Selmer series III. I am seriously thinking about buying this Supreme.

  • @saxophonegeeks
    @saxophonegeeks Жыл бұрын

    dig. good luck. both horns are great options.

  • @zvonimirtosic6171
    @zvonimirtosic6171 Жыл бұрын

    Both new saxophones, out of the box, require substantial adjustment. The intonation, tone stability, isn't there. So a good tech must spend at least several hours fixing the nuisance. That, on a $10K saxophone (!!), that by anyone's expectations should come really well adjusted ?!?!

  • @MatthieuVanMechelenMVM
    @MatthieuVanMechelenMVM10 ай бұрын

    My tech spent 15 min to adjust mine max. Just saying.

  • @zvonimirtosic6171
    @zvonimirtosic617110 ай бұрын

    @@MatthieuVanMechelenMVM I had this from many repairers: Selmer saxophones, out of the box come sometimes near perfect (rare) and only small adjustments are needed. On average require top to bottom adjustments (most of the time), and sometimes even a full day of work, even replacing some pads (which come with uneven shellac) . For the brand name they have, and enormous price, that is not acceptable by any stretch of imagination.