5:52, yeah they need to include washer spacers for crank boots
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
On those I have the silver spacers from Raceface that are thicker then the SRAM black ones that are thinner. Use one of each.
@EMTBAFV5 күн бұрын
There must be something wrong with my new bike, or it's set up incorrectly. It's so firm that it feels like a hardtail! I'm a heavier rider, and the shock that came on the eMTB had a 0.9 spacer in 160 mm of travel. However, I need 260 psi to get 30% sag, making it very stiff. I don't have much of a choice here until I shed some weight and start again. But honestly, I think I'll have to put in a smaller spacer since I'm only using 75% of the travel, according to the O-ring. I have heard the magic spacer for the float x is the 0.6 and up to 0.7 mo more mo less so this is my next move
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Maybe try going to a little larger of a spacer with less PSI in the shock? That should help with small bump compliance but still give you bottom out support.
@broncos_89648 күн бұрын
What range do you get
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Honestly, it's been a long time since I have had this bike. But from what I remember on trail mode I would get about 4500-5k in elevation. I didn't pay much attention to miles because that changes so much with terrain. Seemed like elevation was more of an accurate thing to base how long it would last on
@diorite819 күн бұрын
A S-Works Stumpy 2023, top notch mounted at 50% sale or a SB120? The stumpy would be the half price of the SB120!! I am coming from a 2017 INTENSE ACV so I think I will not be disappointed both ways..but I could be poorer 😂
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Dang that is tough! The Sb120 will climb better than the Stumpy for sure. They have some crazy deals on SB120's right now also though, have you seen any of those? What build of SB120? The 2023 SWORKS comes with XX1 AXS correct? Not XX Transmission? Overall the stumpy is more well rounded in case you need to ride a little bit of a tougher trail, it won't feel as overwhelmed. But the SB120 will climb faster and still be a blast to descend on!
@diorite812 күн бұрын
@@dialedmtb Sworks with Fox 36 factory grip2, float X, Roval carbon wheels, Reverb AXS, X0 AXS at 5500€ (I think it’s a clour of 2022 actually, forgotten somewhere in Specialized workshop) Sb120 T3 8990€ in Italy. I prefer Yeti but I will sweat a little bit more on climbing but because of my heavy wallet on my back 😂
@harv839 күн бұрын
Best drunk review I've seen in awhile
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
hahah glad you enjoyed it
@harv839 күн бұрын
Watch your dang language!
@dialedmtb9 күн бұрын
What do you mean?
@user-rj9ui3sz8u18 күн бұрын
No new content for the summer?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I have some videos I need to get edited. I just have a lot of other things going on so it's taking away from my video editing time.
@rofferdal22 күн бұрын
Weird thing with the grip on the Stamp 7. I use Stamp 2 myself (Large size), and grip is the least of my worries. Hard to actually move your foot once you have settled in.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Yeah it is weird, I expected a lot more out of the Stamp 7's!
@duffyrides24 күн бұрын
Coming from the Megatower I wanted to step down to more efficient pedaling bike like the Tallboy or the SB120 and heard the Tallboy wasn’t a good climber with disappointed me as a Santa Cruz fan that wanted one. But maybe those people were just referring to the V4 and seems the minor change to the V5 improves the climbing ? Would you still recommend the Tallboy ? I also see Competitive Cyclist has amazing deals on the SB120 right now. Can get an X01 AXS SB120 for 5999 whereas that same build would be thousands more on the Tallboy. However I’m willing to look at an S build and do some mods here and there over time. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks !!!
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Hey! Both are awesome bikes, it all depends on how you have the bike built. I have this tallboy built up at about 27lbs right now and it climbs amazing. Yes you can put heavier wheels and tires on it and it climbs more like a 140mm trail bike but then it also descends like a bike in that category also. The SB120 will climb a little bit better, but descend a little worse. Not worse really in a bad way just as in the rear end doesn't feel as plush as the tallboy. It is amazing what SC has done with the TB for 120mm of rear travel. Yeti and SC are my two favorite brands. I think that SC has the better 120mm bike, and I think Yeti has the better Enduro bike. So my two bikes that I currently own are a Tallboy and SB160, if that helps at all.
@rinky_dinky26 күн бұрын
i have 3 big ticket pedals , the diety TMAC , the DMR Vaults and currently the raceface Atlas . i think i love the Vaults the best , followed very very closely by TMAC and last is Atlas . IT's not liike the Atlas is shid , its not , i just find it TOO GRIPPY that i cannot reposition my foot once i step on . the vaults i feel you get grip when you want it , and very little grip when you dont want it the Tmac feels alright i did have once a pedal flip on me and nearly shinned me ....probably my lack of technique
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
You have the new Atlas pedals? Yeah they are very grippy. I ride clips and flats so the super grippy is what I might tend to lean towards for flat pedals because of that. They are ALL good pedals though!
@destro_0411Ай бұрын
Is this trail in cali?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
No this is in Idaho
@EdBell12Ай бұрын
No that it’s been a year - is the smuggler loud on trails? I have seen other videos where people say it raddled . Torn between this and Ripmo
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
If it was me, I would get the new Ripmo for sure. But I only put about 250-300 miles on this bike. It stayed quiet for me though. I could see it getting louder after a lot of use though.
@brianhely3910Ай бұрын
8:20 yep that’s the long and short of it for me… FR pros and Stamps are both close until then
@freshiesat9Ай бұрын
Did you ever make the updates to the Tallboy? Did you release that update video?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I did make all the updates, I thought I released that video but I would have to check. If not I will try to get that out this summer! Been a very busy summer for me so I have not been able to much video editing
@AdhamHedia-de5ovАй бұрын
اجمل عجله في الكون كله حبيبتي
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Yeah it is!
@bryanha79Ай бұрын
I just picked one up for $500 and I look forward to trying it out. I paired it with the GX AXS kit and I really like how clean the bike is now with only the brake hoses.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Yeah it is definitely very clean!!
@meliodashadeyoshi2115Ай бұрын
Tbh I wish someone would do a review on this bike hitting big jumps and showing what it's capable of doing
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I mean Jackson Goldstone has some videos on the hightowers little brother the Tallboy and he is doing more than 99% of what anyone else can do on that thing. So I am sure the Hightower can outperform most.
@meliodashadeyoshi21153 күн бұрын
@@dialedmtb just look up Jackson goldstone tall boy
@kevinmanzo862Ай бұрын
Where can I get those shoes
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Haha what shoes are they?
@fatoldbroken5991Ай бұрын
Hey man. I've really been interested in the Arrival. I see you went with the med, how tall are you?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I am just over 5'8"
@BurnsRubberАй бұрын
Nice reviews. A couple of thoughts on how you could improve your content. You clearly have a lot of experience on these bikes. It would be helpful if you would provide context on how you like to ride and your trails you are testing on. The next step to help your viewers is to describe which types of trails best suit each bike. Instead of just giving us numbers for climbing, descending, etc., how about describing what about these characteristics differentiated it from the other bikes on test. Also best to describe how you got along with the bike in terms of fit and components. If the fit or components weren’t to your liking or were setup exactly how you like it that will dramatically change your perspective on any bike. You’re going to hate any bike that feels too big or too small, brakes you aren’t comfortable with, uncomfortable saddle, bars too wide or too barrow, etc.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! I think about a lot of that stuff but it is so hard to get everything in a video that everyone wants to know without each video being 30-40 minutes! But I do appreciate the input! Thank you!
@cberg94802 ай бұрын
I just picked one up. So just set the front and rear sag to 25% for best climbing setting ?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I would mess around with it for sure, you might like something different than I do. Try the rear at 25-35%. The front I would not have as much sag as you do in the rear, it will be way too soft.
@joegallegos65582 ай бұрын
Just ordered a ripmo. Thanks for the input on our local trails!
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Of course! Hope you're loving it!
@dirtdynamicsmtb2 ай бұрын
Anvl pedals. Search over lol
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Heard great things about those as well!
@judeknight60502 ай бұрын
we have the same helmet, bike, and shoes. Great minds think alike.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Haha that is awesome!
@jed65942 ай бұрын
Man you are raving about how plush the rear end is, Ive just not had the same experience with my 5010 with similar if not the same VPP suspension
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Dang that is weird, I had the last 27.5 5010 and it was pretty dang good too. What rear shock is on yours?
@user-vd7ig6oy6l2 ай бұрын
how does it compare to tallboy v5 you've reviewed recently in terms of overall ride?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Me personally, I like the TB better. Climbs a lot better and descends well. The Optic is a fun bike but the rear end feels like a 150-160mm rear end with a 140mm front end. Not quite as balanced as I would like. It is super fun but I just don't think you get enough out of it for its climbing capabilities
@user-rj9ui3sz8u2 ай бұрын
Hi, I hope you make more videos soon!
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Thank you! I have been super busy, should get more out soon!
@talesfromthetrailz2 ай бұрын
How did you like this compared w the 150?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Honestly it feels quite a bit different. The rear end is more plush, the bike feels a little more comfortable (to me for sizing) only thing it is very similar on is climbing.
@TheHuester442 ай бұрын
Maybe a Pivot 429 trail would be a better choice.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I have only heard great things!!
@fathertime2092 ай бұрын
Two bikes I'm looking at.. thanks for the comparison. What area are you riding in? Looks fun!!
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Can't go wrong with either one! But I am in Boise, Idaho!
@offdaystv2 ай бұрын
I’m 5’9 abs was wondering which size sentinel I should get
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
That is tough, I would lean more towards a size medium.
@offdaystv2 күн бұрын
@@dialedmtb I got a medium and it fits like a glove
@offdaystv2 ай бұрын
How tall are you? I know you said you got a medium
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
I am just over 5'8
@Eandiil3 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Norco Sight A3 and I absolutely love it. Im 6’1 and on an XL. It’s a big bike, but very nimble and really a soft, stable ride. Big confidence builder.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Yeah it is a great bike!!
@mikebarger35633 ай бұрын
I wonder how much the frameset weighs?
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
It probably is not that light.
@MacBikesMTB3 ай бұрын
That 2024 Optic looks like its flying! I just bought a 2023 Norco Sight A1 but really cool to see the Optic 2024 comparison! Great review bud.
@MBickman3 ай бұрын
I bought the 2023 Sight A1 as well. Fun bike.
@dialedmtb3 күн бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it! The Sight is a rad bike also!
@aaronblonden67743 ай бұрын
Bought an alloy frame and am almost done buillding it. The missing link kit that comes with the framsets is killer. Swap wasnt immediate but i did it yesterday in 20 minutes or so. Im planning mullet for my build 70% of the year or so.
@dialedmtb3 ай бұрын
That will be awesome! What components did you end up going with? Let me know what you think!
@aaronblonden67743 ай бұрын
@dialedmtb I'm running a Lyrik ultimate i have really enjoyed (its at 150mm right now). An axs x01 kit, wao - mullet convergence series. One up carbon bars, the alloy frame came with a vivid (pretty much the deciding factor to get the frame and the geo staying static between wheel sizes) building it has been rather pleasant. The routing had guide housings in, which was somewhat helpful. I've got a lot of tire on it right now which I may slim down. The bike will go with me to shuttle zones and winch and plummet trails. I'm hopeful it climbs better and is more capable then the status 140 I replaced. Pretty optimistic about that. I own hardtails and a carbon 120 trail bike ironically, that I still think this will compliment. I enjoy climbing so I'd like a bike that's comfortable at it and gives good traction. Descending I don't expect the shock and geo to feel overwhelming and I sku towards wheels on the ground tech with line choice. So I'm excited, might be perfect!
@dialedmtb3 ай бұрын
Dang your bike is going to be rad! Yeah I like that they spec the bike with a vivid on it for the C2 Mullet and on the Frame only! Definitely will make it feel even deeper than mine does on the descent. You will have to update me and tell me how it rides for you!
@aaronblonden67743 ай бұрын
@dialedmtb shuttled yesterday just 2600 feet of descending and some climbing. Shattered some prs and didn't have the bike dialed at all. Rode today and did 2100 ft of elevation. It felt really comfortable and absolute sled downhill. Fantastic traction. Im mullet still and tipped the scales at 36lbs. Haha. Really planted in chunk, rear feels seemless and great when it grows on banked and flat corners. Had some slick drifting today on damp clay and it kept me upright.
@quinncolby3 ай бұрын
Gotta have black as a color option!
@dialedmtb3 ай бұрын
Black always seems to rotate through about once per cycle of each frame generation. Or at least a really dark grey or something like that.
@quinncolby3 ай бұрын
@@dialedmtb my last three bikes have been black. I guess I’m just lucky.
@machine77673 ай бұрын
So TRP brakes are your preferred brakes? What rotor and pads do you like? Do you prefer 200mm rotors front and rear?
@dialedmtb3 ай бұрын
So I actually like Magura MT7's better, just didn't have them on these bikes. The TRP's and Shimano 4 pistons are right behind the MT7's though. I would happily have any three of those on my bikes. For rotors, on my trail bike (120-130mm of travel) I run a 180 rear rotor and almost always a 203 front unless I am going for a lightweight short travel bike and am counting all the grams. For 140mm and up of rear travel I just go with 200 or 203 front and rear and be done with it. You can easily over hear a rear 180mm rear rotor on longer/steeper descents and once you do that the brakes never work as good until you replace the rotor.
@machine77673 ай бұрын
Pivot must have listened to you because for 2024, they did go slightly slacker in the head tube angle and steeper in the seat tube. Be interesting for you to review the updated 2024.
@dialedmtb3 ай бұрын
I will most likely reach out to Pivot soon to see if they are interested in having me review the new bike. I just have a small injury and another bike showing up soon so if they do send it I want to be able to take full advantage of getting a good amount of time on it and not just a few rides. But yeah the new bike sounds awesome!! Exactly what I wanted out of it, it seems.
@here4therides4 ай бұрын
Interesting that you compare its climbing capabilities to the sight. I dont see the point of having a short travel bike that pedals like a 140-150, and descends worse than a 140-150 bike.
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a different bike, but it doesn't descend worse than the old sight, just different. I will be putting more time in on the bike and doing a full review later on. But it is a super fun bike to ride, some people are just really good climbers and don't care much about that. They just want the most fun bike for the descent for them.
@leejohnh222 ай бұрын
An aspect that is glossed over by most reviews is how well a bike pumps and generates speed in corners. Personally this is what separates a capable 125mm bike to a 150mm bike even if they may climb similarly. In short, rolling terrain is just plain more fun and faster on short travel bikes, even very capable ones like the optic.
@aaronblonden6774Ай бұрын
I would say it does perform better downhill then 140 and 150 bikes ive owned and ridden. It's definitely more playful and its ability to pump as mentioned above and stay planted and hold speed for shorter rear travel is unreal. Beyond summing that up to high pivot witchcraft. Its just incredibly well designed kinematic wise and geo for its use case. May not be for everyone but I'm riding shuttle zones and steep/tech trails with as much confidence as any bike I've ridden. With it being more engaging for not being a 170 travel bike.
@freshpukesh4 ай бұрын
Great review!
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it!
@MTBActionCam14 ай бұрын
Looked really smooth through those rock gardens. Pretty impressive for a short travel bike.
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a lot smoother through those rocks than any other bike I have rode with 140mm of rear travel or less, pretty impressive for sure!
@JulioJairdeAlba4 ай бұрын
I feel the opposite, the Crankbrothers being the most grippy due to the softer gum but also the less durable in long term. Five ten the less grippy but more durable and RC something in the middle. 8-10 months of very constant use of Crankbrothers and the sole is completely destroyed.
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Yeah, all of the shoes when they are brand new are pretty dang good. But yeah, honestly flat pedal shoes should get replaced more often than people think.
@coastalhillbilly34194 ай бұрын
“No payment” the gold standard 🙏
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Glad you appreciate that! It's surprising how many of these bike videos on here are paid off by the manufacture to make sure they are good. Also a reason why I wanted to do a series like this, where there are actual winners and losers (in my opinion).
@danielgrafik4 ай бұрын
Hey man, love the review(s). Wondering if you had an opinion on the TB v5 vs The Stumjumper carbon (none Evo). I've got a bunch of spare, brand new parts, so am looking for a frame, and I've got some good offers on the Tallboy and SJ'er. Local trail are very flat, lots of short ups and downs, and you have to generate a lot of you own speed. I'm not too concerned with climbing, but since we have a fair bit, I don't want my efforts to go to waste. I'm not gonna go park or enduro riding any time soon. Also, I'm 42 and need to be on work on mondays :) I prefer confident geo, to lots of travel (which isn't needed with my riding anyway). And cornering ability and poppy-ness is really nice. Unsure if the Tallboy and Stumpjumper are in totally different categories? /Thanks
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Honestly those two bikes are both very very similar. To be honest you will be super happy with both of them. If you build the Tallboy I switched it to a 140mm Fork so it is even more similar to the StumpJumper. I'd just get whatever one you can get for a better price, or whatever one you think looks better or has the color you like. Both are super good bikes!
@danielgrafik4 ай бұрын
@@dialedmtb Ended up going with the Stumpjumper as it's from a local bike shop, that'd like to support. But thanks for the answer, and I think you confirmed the thoughts I was having regarding does two specific frames... which was good! Thanks again :)
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
That is awesome! How are you liking the bike?
@danielgrafik4 ай бұрын
@@dialedmtb Haven't gotten the frame yet, only ordered it, but I'll let you know once it's all built up 🤞
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Awesome, you're going to really enjoy it I think!
@shahnguffy47904 ай бұрын
Six rides into my 2023 switchblade. Climbing is good! Cornering is terrible on small and medium rocks. Kicks out from underneath my weight. Very disappointing!
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Are you using the stock front DHF front tire? Swap that out for a DHR II or Assegai and I bet it feels better!
@jeremyvia76965 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the specialized water bottle cage with tool.. Im glad to see it clears the shock been looking all over and finally came across this video.. you da man..
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Haha yeah of course, glad I could help!
@vietle-xg8oi5 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for your review. I am considering the Sight A2 size Medium. I am 5'.10" and I am between a Med and a Large size but all my current bikes are Med. The bike will be shipped to me so I don't want to go through the hassle of returning it if it doesn't fit. Your bike is Med so if you don't mind me asking. How tall are you? Btw sub!
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Hey sorry I am just getting to see this! but I am a little over 5'8". What do you think of the new Sight with the high pivot?
@vietle-xg8oi4 ай бұрын
@@dialedmtb no worries. I just got my 2023 Sight and it is a little heavier than my current bike but it definitely has a lot of potential. Need to take it to Santa Cruz mountain and ride it.
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
What size did you end up going with? But I am jealous! Santa Cruz would be rad to ride in!
@vietle-xg8oi4 ай бұрын
@@dialedmtb I got the Med. A large would have been too big. If u ever come to Santa Cruz, hit me up then I can give u a tour.
@dialedmtb4 ай бұрын
Yeah good call, the large would have been a big bike for sure! But okay rad, I will keep that in mind!
@jiajianhou4265 ай бұрын
I think you are drunk. Lots of mistakes during spec and even said go to specialized website for a SC bike geometry lol
@dialedmtb5 ай бұрын
My bike is different than the stock build. Sometimes the wrong words come out though for sure. Thanks for the feedback
@steveg565 ай бұрын
I have this exact bike coming in next week. I read a lot about it feeling a little too planted but it sounds like you're having fun and seem to feel it is poppy in stock form. Are you running the suggested settings from yeti's website for the suspension? If not what settings did you use and how heavy are you? I'm 5'8 185 lb. Have you tried a coil shock on the rear yet? Still looking forward to your full review of the bike, but I think you're probably still really enjoying it.
@dialedmtb5 ай бұрын
Yeah this bike is more planted than say an SB140 for sure but compared to the previous SB150, and other 2024 longer travel bikes it definitely is more poppy than a lot of them! It for sure plows through stuff and is an awesome bike. You will be super stoked with it I am sure! But yeah I did run the coil on it for about 6 weeks during the summer when I was going to lift served riding a lot. I will most likely do the full review on this bike in a couple of months once the weather has got better and there is more riding near me.
@steveg565 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Look forward to the full review. Are you leaning towards the coil of the stock X2?
@dialedmtb5 ай бұрын
So I took the coil off for my normal riding. I like the air shock for the majority of the riding. The coil definitely takes any of the playfulness out of the bike. If you can, I would just have both. It is nice to have.
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5:52, yeah they need to include washer spacers for crank boots
On those I have the silver spacers from Raceface that are thicker then the SRAM black ones that are thinner. Use one of each.
There must be something wrong with my new bike, or it's set up incorrectly. It's so firm that it feels like a hardtail! I'm a heavier rider, and the shock that came on the eMTB had a 0.9 spacer in 160 mm of travel. However, I need 260 psi to get 30% sag, making it very stiff. I don't have much of a choice here until I shed some weight and start again. But honestly, I think I'll have to put in a smaller spacer since I'm only using 75% of the travel, according to the O-ring. I have heard the magic spacer for the float x is the 0.6 and up to 0.7 mo more mo less so this is my next move
Maybe try going to a little larger of a spacer with less PSI in the shock? That should help with small bump compliance but still give you bottom out support.
What range do you get
Honestly, it's been a long time since I have had this bike. But from what I remember on trail mode I would get about 4500-5k in elevation. I didn't pay much attention to miles because that changes so much with terrain. Seemed like elevation was more of an accurate thing to base how long it would last on
A S-Works Stumpy 2023, top notch mounted at 50% sale or a SB120? The stumpy would be the half price of the SB120!! I am coming from a 2017 INTENSE ACV so I think I will not be disappointed both ways..but I could be poorer 😂
Dang that is tough! The Sb120 will climb better than the Stumpy for sure. They have some crazy deals on SB120's right now also though, have you seen any of those? What build of SB120? The 2023 SWORKS comes with XX1 AXS correct? Not XX Transmission? Overall the stumpy is more well rounded in case you need to ride a little bit of a tougher trail, it won't feel as overwhelmed. But the SB120 will climb faster and still be a blast to descend on!
@@dialedmtb Sworks with Fox 36 factory grip2, float X, Roval carbon wheels, Reverb AXS, X0 AXS at 5500€ (I think it’s a clour of 2022 actually, forgotten somewhere in Specialized workshop) Sb120 T3 8990€ in Italy. I prefer Yeti but I will sweat a little bit more on climbing but because of my heavy wallet on my back 😂
Best drunk review I've seen in awhile
hahah glad you enjoyed it
Watch your dang language!
What do you mean?
No new content for the summer?
I have some videos I need to get edited. I just have a lot of other things going on so it's taking away from my video editing time.
Weird thing with the grip on the Stamp 7. I use Stamp 2 myself (Large size), and grip is the least of my worries. Hard to actually move your foot once you have settled in.
Yeah it is weird, I expected a lot more out of the Stamp 7's!
Coming from the Megatower I wanted to step down to more efficient pedaling bike like the Tallboy or the SB120 and heard the Tallboy wasn’t a good climber with disappointed me as a Santa Cruz fan that wanted one. But maybe those people were just referring to the V4 and seems the minor change to the V5 improves the climbing ? Would you still recommend the Tallboy ? I also see Competitive Cyclist has amazing deals on the SB120 right now. Can get an X01 AXS SB120 for 5999 whereas that same build would be thousands more on the Tallboy. However I’m willing to look at an S build and do some mods here and there over time. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks !!!
Hey! Both are awesome bikes, it all depends on how you have the bike built. I have this tallboy built up at about 27lbs right now and it climbs amazing. Yes you can put heavier wheels and tires on it and it climbs more like a 140mm trail bike but then it also descends like a bike in that category also. The SB120 will climb a little bit better, but descend a little worse. Not worse really in a bad way just as in the rear end doesn't feel as plush as the tallboy. It is amazing what SC has done with the TB for 120mm of rear travel. Yeti and SC are my two favorite brands. I think that SC has the better 120mm bike, and I think Yeti has the better Enduro bike. So my two bikes that I currently own are a Tallboy and SB160, if that helps at all.
i have 3 big ticket pedals , the diety TMAC , the DMR Vaults and currently the raceface Atlas . i think i love the Vaults the best , followed very very closely by TMAC and last is Atlas . IT's not liike the Atlas is shid , its not , i just find it TOO GRIPPY that i cannot reposition my foot once i step on . the vaults i feel you get grip when you want it , and very little grip when you dont want it the Tmac feels alright i did have once a pedal flip on me and nearly shinned me ....probably my lack of technique
You have the new Atlas pedals? Yeah they are very grippy. I ride clips and flats so the super grippy is what I might tend to lean towards for flat pedals because of that. They are ALL good pedals though!
Is this trail in cali?
No this is in Idaho
No that it’s been a year - is the smuggler loud on trails? I have seen other videos where people say it raddled . Torn between this and Ripmo
If it was me, I would get the new Ripmo for sure. But I only put about 250-300 miles on this bike. It stayed quiet for me though. I could see it getting louder after a lot of use though.
8:20 yep that’s the long and short of it for me… FR pros and Stamps are both close until then
Did you ever make the updates to the Tallboy? Did you release that update video?
I did make all the updates, I thought I released that video but I would have to check. If not I will try to get that out this summer! Been a very busy summer for me so I have not been able to much video editing
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Yeah it is!
I just picked one up for $500 and I look forward to trying it out. I paired it with the GX AXS kit and I really like how clean the bike is now with only the brake hoses.
Yeah it is definitely very clean!!
Tbh I wish someone would do a review on this bike hitting big jumps and showing what it's capable of doing
I mean Jackson Goldstone has some videos on the hightowers little brother the Tallboy and he is doing more than 99% of what anyone else can do on that thing. So I am sure the Hightower can outperform most.
@@dialedmtb just look up Jackson goldstone tall boy
Where can I get those shoes
Haha what shoes are they?
Hey man. I've really been interested in the Arrival. I see you went with the med, how tall are you?
I am just over 5'8"
Nice reviews. A couple of thoughts on how you could improve your content. You clearly have a lot of experience on these bikes. It would be helpful if you would provide context on how you like to ride and your trails you are testing on. The next step to help your viewers is to describe which types of trails best suit each bike. Instead of just giving us numbers for climbing, descending, etc., how about describing what about these characteristics differentiated it from the other bikes on test. Also best to describe how you got along with the bike in terms of fit and components. If the fit or components weren’t to your liking or were setup exactly how you like it that will dramatically change your perspective on any bike. You’re going to hate any bike that feels too big or too small, brakes you aren’t comfortable with, uncomfortable saddle, bars too wide or too barrow, etc.
Thank you for the feedback! I think about a lot of that stuff but it is so hard to get everything in a video that everyone wants to know without each video being 30-40 minutes! But I do appreciate the input! Thank you!
I just picked one up. So just set the front and rear sag to 25% for best climbing setting ?
I would mess around with it for sure, you might like something different than I do. Try the rear at 25-35%. The front I would not have as much sag as you do in the rear, it will be way too soft.
Just ordered a ripmo. Thanks for the input on our local trails!
Of course! Hope you're loving it!
Anvl pedals. Search over lol
Heard great things about those as well!
we have the same helmet, bike, and shoes. Great minds think alike.
Haha that is awesome!
Man you are raving about how plush the rear end is, Ive just not had the same experience with my 5010 with similar if not the same VPP suspension
Dang that is weird, I had the last 27.5 5010 and it was pretty dang good too. What rear shock is on yours?
how does it compare to tallboy v5 you've reviewed recently in terms of overall ride?
Me personally, I like the TB better. Climbs a lot better and descends well. The Optic is a fun bike but the rear end feels like a 150-160mm rear end with a 140mm front end. Not quite as balanced as I would like. It is super fun but I just don't think you get enough out of it for its climbing capabilities
Hi, I hope you make more videos soon!
Thank you! I have been super busy, should get more out soon!
How did you like this compared w the 150?
Honestly it feels quite a bit different. The rear end is more plush, the bike feels a little more comfortable (to me for sizing) only thing it is very similar on is climbing.
Maybe a Pivot 429 trail would be a better choice.
I have only heard great things!!
Two bikes I'm looking at.. thanks for the comparison. What area are you riding in? Looks fun!!
Can't go wrong with either one! But I am in Boise, Idaho!
I’m 5’9 abs was wondering which size sentinel I should get
That is tough, I would lean more towards a size medium.
@@dialedmtb I got a medium and it fits like a glove
How tall are you? I know you said you got a medium
I am just over 5'8
I have a 2023 Norco Sight A3 and I absolutely love it. Im 6’1 and on an XL. It’s a big bike, but very nimble and really a soft, stable ride. Big confidence builder.
Yeah it is a great bike!!
I wonder how much the frameset weighs?
It probably is not that light.
That 2024 Optic looks like its flying! I just bought a 2023 Norco Sight A1 but really cool to see the Optic 2024 comparison! Great review bud.
I bought the 2023 Sight A1 as well. Fun bike.
Thank you! I appreciate it! The Sight is a rad bike also!
Bought an alloy frame and am almost done buillding it. The missing link kit that comes with the framsets is killer. Swap wasnt immediate but i did it yesterday in 20 minutes or so. Im planning mullet for my build 70% of the year or so.
That will be awesome! What components did you end up going with? Let me know what you think!
@dialedmtb I'm running a Lyrik ultimate i have really enjoyed (its at 150mm right now). An axs x01 kit, wao - mullet convergence series. One up carbon bars, the alloy frame came with a vivid (pretty much the deciding factor to get the frame and the geo staying static between wheel sizes) building it has been rather pleasant. The routing had guide housings in, which was somewhat helpful. I've got a lot of tire on it right now which I may slim down. The bike will go with me to shuttle zones and winch and plummet trails. I'm hopeful it climbs better and is more capable then the status 140 I replaced. Pretty optimistic about that. I own hardtails and a carbon 120 trail bike ironically, that I still think this will compliment. I enjoy climbing so I'd like a bike that's comfortable at it and gives good traction. Descending I don't expect the shock and geo to feel overwhelming and I sku towards wheels on the ground tech with line choice. So I'm excited, might be perfect!
Dang your bike is going to be rad! Yeah I like that they spec the bike with a vivid on it for the C2 Mullet and on the Frame only! Definitely will make it feel even deeper than mine does on the descent. You will have to update me and tell me how it rides for you!
@dialedmtb shuttled yesterday just 2600 feet of descending and some climbing. Shattered some prs and didn't have the bike dialed at all. Rode today and did 2100 ft of elevation. It felt really comfortable and absolute sled downhill. Fantastic traction. Im mullet still and tipped the scales at 36lbs. Haha. Really planted in chunk, rear feels seemless and great when it grows on banked and flat corners. Had some slick drifting today on damp clay and it kept me upright.
Gotta have black as a color option!
Black always seems to rotate through about once per cycle of each frame generation. Or at least a really dark grey or something like that.
@@dialedmtb my last three bikes have been black. I guess I’m just lucky.
So TRP brakes are your preferred brakes? What rotor and pads do you like? Do you prefer 200mm rotors front and rear?
So I actually like Magura MT7's better, just didn't have them on these bikes. The TRP's and Shimano 4 pistons are right behind the MT7's though. I would happily have any three of those on my bikes. For rotors, on my trail bike (120-130mm of travel) I run a 180 rear rotor and almost always a 203 front unless I am going for a lightweight short travel bike and am counting all the grams. For 140mm and up of rear travel I just go with 200 or 203 front and rear and be done with it. You can easily over hear a rear 180mm rear rotor on longer/steeper descents and once you do that the brakes never work as good until you replace the rotor.
Pivot must have listened to you because for 2024, they did go slightly slacker in the head tube angle and steeper in the seat tube. Be interesting for you to review the updated 2024.
I will most likely reach out to Pivot soon to see if they are interested in having me review the new bike. I just have a small injury and another bike showing up soon so if they do send it I want to be able to take full advantage of getting a good amount of time on it and not just a few rides. But yeah the new bike sounds awesome!! Exactly what I wanted out of it, it seems.
Interesting that you compare its climbing capabilities to the sight. I dont see the point of having a short travel bike that pedals like a 140-150, and descends worse than a 140-150 bike.
Yeah it's a different bike, but it doesn't descend worse than the old sight, just different. I will be putting more time in on the bike and doing a full review later on. But it is a super fun bike to ride, some people are just really good climbers and don't care much about that. They just want the most fun bike for the descent for them.
An aspect that is glossed over by most reviews is how well a bike pumps and generates speed in corners. Personally this is what separates a capable 125mm bike to a 150mm bike even if they may climb similarly. In short, rolling terrain is just plain more fun and faster on short travel bikes, even very capable ones like the optic.
I would say it does perform better downhill then 140 and 150 bikes ive owned and ridden. It's definitely more playful and its ability to pump as mentioned above and stay planted and hold speed for shorter rear travel is unreal. Beyond summing that up to high pivot witchcraft. Its just incredibly well designed kinematic wise and geo for its use case. May not be for everyone but I'm riding shuttle zones and steep/tech trails with as much confidence as any bike I've ridden. With it being more engaging for not being a 170 travel bike.
Great review!
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Looked really smooth through those rock gardens. Pretty impressive for a short travel bike.
Yeah it was a lot smoother through those rocks than any other bike I have rode with 140mm of rear travel or less, pretty impressive for sure!
I feel the opposite, the Crankbrothers being the most grippy due to the softer gum but also the less durable in long term. Five ten the less grippy but more durable and RC something in the middle. 8-10 months of very constant use of Crankbrothers and the sole is completely destroyed.
Yeah, all of the shoes when they are brand new are pretty dang good. But yeah, honestly flat pedal shoes should get replaced more often than people think.
“No payment” the gold standard 🙏
Glad you appreciate that! It's surprising how many of these bike videos on here are paid off by the manufacture to make sure they are good. Also a reason why I wanted to do a series like this, where there are actual winners and losers (in my opinion).
Hey man, love the review(s). Wondering if you had an opinion on the TB v5 vs The Stumjumper carbon (none Evo). I've got a bunch of spare, brand new parts, so am looking for a frame, and I've got some good offers on the Tallboy and SJ'er. Local trail are very flat, lots of short ups and downs, and you have to generate a lot of you own speed. I'm not too concerned with climbing, but since we have a fair bit, I don't want my efforts to go to waste. I'm not gonna go park or enduro riding any time soon. Also, I'm 42 and need to be on work on mondays :) I prefer confident geo, to lots of travel (which isn't needed with my riding anyway). And cornering ability and poppy-ness is really nice. Unsure if the Tallboy and Stumpjumper are in totally different categories? /Thanks
Honestly those two bikes are both very very similar. To be honest you will be super happy with both of them. If you build the Tallboy I switched it to a 140mm Fork so it is even more similar to the StumpJumper. I'd just get whatever one you can get for a better price, or whatever one you think looks better or has the color you like. Both are super good bikes!
@@dialedmtb Ended up going with the Stumpjumper as it's from a local bike shop, that'd like to support. But thanks for the answer, and I think you confirmed the thoughts I was having regarding does two specific frames... which was good! Thanks again :)
That is awesome! How are you liking the bike?
@@dialedmtb Haven't gotten the frame yet, only ordered it, but I'll let you know once it's all built up 🤞
Awesome, you're going to really enjoy it I think!
Six rides into my 2023 switchblade. Climbing is good! Cornering is terrible on small and medium rocks. Kicks out from underneath my weight. Very disappointing!
Are you using the stock front DHF front tire? Swap that out for a DHR II or Assegai and I bet it feels better!
Thanks for showing the specialized water bottle cage with tool.. Im glad to see it clears the shock been looking all over and finally came across this video.. you da man..
Haha yeah of course, glad I could help!
Hi, Thanks for your review. I am considering the Sight A2 size Medium. I am 5'.10" and I am between a Med and a Large size but all my current bikes are Med. The bike will be shipped to me so I don't want to go through the hassle of returning it if it doesn't fit. Your bike is Med so if you don't mind me asking. How tall are you? Btw sub!
Hey sorry I am just getting to see this! but I am a little over 5'8". What do you think of the new Sight with the high pivot?
@@dialedmtb no worries. I just got my 2023 Sight and it is a little heavier than my current bike but it definitely has a lot of potential. Need to take it to Santa Cruz mountain and ride it.
What size did you end up going with? But I am jealous! Santa Cruz would be rad to ride in!
@@dialedmtb I got the Med. A large would have been too big. If u ever come to Santa Cruz, hit me up then I can give u a tour.
Yeah good call, the large would have been a big bike for sure! But okay rad, I will keep that in mind!
I think you are drunk. Lots of mistakes during spec and even said go to specialized website for a SC bike geometry lol
My bike is different than the stock build. Sometimes the wrong words come out though for sure. Thanks for the feedback
I have this exact bike coming in next week. I read a lot about it feeling a little too planted but it sounds like you're having fun and seem to feel it is poppy in stock form. Are you running the suggested settings from yeti's website for the suspension? If not what settings did you use and how heavy are you? I'm 5'8 185 lb. Have you tried a coil shock on the rear yet? Still looking forward to your full review of the bike, but I think you're probably still really enjoying it.
Yeah this bike is more planted than say an SB140 for sure but compared to the previous SB150, and other 2024 longer travel bikes it definitely is more poppy than a lot of them! It for sure plows through stuff and is an awesome bike. You will be super stoked with it I am sure! But yeah I did run the coil on it for about 6 weeks during the summer when I was going to lift served riding a lot. I will most likely do the full review on this bike in a couple of months once the weather has got better and there is more riding near me.
Thanks for the reply. Look forward to the full review. Are you leaning towards the coil of the stock X2?
So I took the coil off for my normal riding. I like the air shock for the majority of the riding. The coil definitely takes any of the playfulness out of the bike. If you can, I would just have both. It is nice to have.